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Charger
02-09-2005, 06:31 PM
I think this is the Dodge Caliber, but Im not sure if it is a concept or production<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/9232.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoweek.nl<p>This is a good Neon replacement

KebabGud
02-09-2005, 06:42 PM
caliber .. sounds to mutch like calibra .. so i hate it already..<br>does the world need another SUV?

Charger
02-09-2005, 06:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KebabGud</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">caliber .. sounds to mutch like calibra .. so i hate it already..<br>does the world need another SUV?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>This isnt an suv

Charger
02-09-2005, 06:53 PM
Heres a brighter pic<br><IMG SRC="http://img236.exs.cx/img236/4147/923226wc.jpg" BORDER="0">

nismo
02-09-2005, 06:55 PM
Dodge is definately making big improvements... bye bye Neon. Is there any info on engines, prod, etc.? This competes with the Matrix and Mazda3 hatch, right?

Dodger
02-09-2005, 07:11 PM
I think it can go in to production just like this! It looks really nice- not your normal hatch. I wish I could see what the rear looks like

cadil-benz
02-09-2005, 07:26 PM
wow, this looks great. I like the front end design much more than that of the charger or magnum. It manages to look very sporty for a wagon with alot of SUV design cues. <p>With the nitro and this, dodge is going to have a great line of small vehicles.

Charger
02-09-2005, 08:06 PM
It's pretty similar to this<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/76/DODGE.Razor_450.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>ams<p>DCX sources say that are more than 1 Neon replacements, this could be the sedan type version

JBlair
02-09-2005, 08:30 PM
Does anybody else see a lot of B-class mercedes in the doors and in the shape of the front?

against the wall
02-09-2005, 08:31 PM
wow this car is nice looking. my parents own a matrix and if this is production and they drive it and like it they may get it

autodanse
02-09-2005, 09:17 PM
the overall greenhouse shape is reminiscent of the european audi a2. i really like this. how many small cars is dodge getting, exactly? i feel like there were a lot of artist renderings showing something that looked like the razor concept as well..

piokor
02-09-2005, 10:23 PM
I don't think this would share much with the B-Class because this is supposed to be based on the new platform co-developed with Mitsubishi. The next generation PT Cruiser will probably be based on this. <p>At least this looks better than the HHR.

mzoltarp
02-10-2005, 06:16 AM
If this is a neon replacement then I say bring it on. It has gutsy style. More than likely a sedan version is coming too.

myredhotcar
02-10-2005, 07:59 AM
Now we know why Dodge is returning to Europe. Also I predict it will become one of the brand's top sellers in Canada. Perhaps the first small Dodge that actually makes sense?

Monkey
02-10-2005, 08:06 AM
If you look at the rims carefully, you'll notice the rear wheel has the air filler at about 11:00, and the front ones at 6:00. That to me makes them not photochopped on. (Unless they moved that too)

ricerammer
02-10-2005, 02:48 PM
that looks awesome. I am diggin the car ALOT. I love the sedan version. It is a HUGE improvement over the Neon. Will this be FWD?

AXIS
02-10-2005, 03:05 PM
Daimler Chrysler should use this model to replace the PT Cruiser, since Chrysler has admitted they dont know what else to do with the PT. And if the Chrysler brand is supposedly a luxury division, the PT is dam near unecessary anyways.

SV
02-10-2005, 04:17 PM
i'm surprised this is a concept; it looks production-ready to me. also, this is a huge improvement over the neon. i can't wait to see the sedan <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by SV3 at 7:53 AM 2/11/2005</i>

Charger
02-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Here's some more pics. Wow, this is fantastic, I cant wait to see the other versions.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/9294.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/9295.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/9291.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/9292.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/9293.jpg" BORDER="0"><p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>

Charger
02-10-2005, 05:40 PM
<IMG SRC="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-12567-244698-4181/Caliber2.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>autoweek.nl

Dodger
02-10-2005, 06:47 PM
When do they start taking orders...<p>Wow, I can't believe this thing. It has such nice angles and proportions. I wish there were some interior pics and some other colors. This would look good in almost any color they throw on it- especially black and midnight blue

nismo
02-10-2005, 07:15 PM
I really like this... i'm adding it to my next car list. I want it in black with some nicely styled 18s, not tacky overdone ones though. <p>I'm guessing this will get the new 2.0 4cyl for the base, the 2.4 4cyl, and a turbo SRT version...

Charger
02-10-2005, 07:33 PM
<IMG SRC="http://automotorundsport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/01_450.78950.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://automotorundsport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/04_450.78956.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://automotorundsport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/05_450.78958.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: ams

Dodger
02-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Awesome job man!! Keep em comin!! These are great!!

Charger
02-10-2005, 08:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dodger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome job man!! Keep em comin!! These are great!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats all I have for right now. But I found out that AMS claims this is a concept and not a production(yet) and there are other versions(possibly with different names i.e. Rebel for a sedan version)

against the wall
02-10-2005, 08:23 PM
this car is really nice. maybe it will be out by the time i get 2 high school (im 13). if its meant to compete w/ the scions and matrix's and vibes then it should be priced sub-20k <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Rymanrph
02-11-2005, 12:23 AM
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Supremus
02-11-2005, 06:12 AM
I'm amazed how nobody commented on how Volvo-like this car is. Excluding the Astra-like c-pillar, the rest is totally Volvo.

SV
02-11-2005, 06:55 AM
i can't wait to see the interior of this <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

myredhotcar
02-11-2005, 07:11 AM
I guess we know who's just wet their pants: J mays, bob lutz and perhaps even the vw group.<p>It's a good design, but I guess it's hard to top the 300c for shock value. It actually looks like I was predicting--taking the ram cues and crossing them with the magnum. Some elements (c-pillar looks like old mazda3) are not entirely original, but then all current designs are essentially cut from a similar base profile.

Top Secret
02-11-2005, 07:14 AM
It looks good.<p>Anyway, I'm confused on what this is supposed to be. Is it a hatch a la PT Cruiser or a sedan or what?

Dodger
02-11-2005, 09:05 AM
People keep saying that there is supposed to a separate sedan and this is just the hatch version but who knows <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

DaDesign
02-11-2005, 09:54 AM
I like it alot, but those taillights and the back im not a big fan of

Kakairo
02-11-2005, 10:46 AM
Euro plates...I guess its official, Dodge is coming to Europe

Santeno
02-11-2005, 11:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Kakairo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Euro plates...I guess its official, Dodge is coming to Europe</TD></TR></TABLE><br>It's been official for quite a few months already.

GerjurdKing
02-11-2005, 12:43 PM
I really like this for a Neon replacement. Im not to keen on the rear lights. They look very European which isnt always a good thing. Maybe we will see some variance between this obvious European version and a North American one.

1966_GTO_
02-11-2005, 01:05 PM
It looks like a mix between a Pontiac Vibe and a Chrysler Pacifica. I actually like it, but I really think Dodge should replace the Neon with a similar model, not a hatch.

Velocitas
02-11-2005, 01:11 PM
<br>This thing is going to be a huge hit. What a coup for Dodge -- replacing the aging, ugly and frankly effeminate Neon with this little brute. DCX can seemingly do no wrong right now. The only thing more this needs is an AWD variant.<p>Dodge will need to pair this with a sedan also, I agree.<br>

Charger
02-11-2005, 01:38 PM
Dodge will most likely have 3 versions of this, first will come a sport-wagon, , then a sedan, then a roadster. Some DCX sources have been saying that each may get their own names.

VexedandGlorious
02-11-2005, 04:03 PM
I love this sooooooooooooooo much, it looks ready for production. so like the Jeep Varsity concept

Santeno
02-11-2005, 04:30 PM
Can anyone picture a chrysler, sedan variant of this? Kind of like a mini 300?

ToronadoGT
02-11-2005, 05:03 PM
Wow, this is another great car from DCX. I think the Durango and Magnum cues blend quite nicely. I can't wait for the sedan, roadster, and SRT-4 versions of this car. This thing will look bad ass in black. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

Cozz
02-12-2005, 06:50 AM
Source: theautochannel.com<p>A New Slant On One of the World's Most Competitive Segments * * Concept Designed for Global Appeal -- Hints at Future of Next- Generation Dodge C-segment Vehicle * Powerful Dodge Design Statement Shatters Conventional Definition of a Compact Car for the Global Market<p><b>AUBURN HILLS, Mich., Feb. 11, 21005</b>; Dodge designers aimed their sketch pads at the global car market and the result is the bold, distinctive Dodge Caliber concept -- a five-door vehicle that combines a sporty coupe-like profile with the strength, stance and functionality of an SUV.<p>Caliber's sheer surface styling commands attention and evokes attributes that define the Dodge brand: bold, powerful, capable and street smart. This concept, painted stunning Sunburst Orange, would appeal to buyers looking for a compact car that stands out from the crowd and gives them the flexibility to do more in terms of seating friends and storing gear.<p>"With its bold styling and clever packaging, Caliber is pure Dodge," said Trevor Creed, Senior Vice President-Design, Chrysler Group. "This concept is a new slant on one of the world's most competitive segments. The Dodge Caliber concept brings emotion to the C-segment sea of sameness and strongly hints at the future direction of Dodge in the global car market."<p><b>BOLD, POWERFUL PROPORTIONS WITH RAZOR SHARP LINES</b><p>There's no mistaking Caliber -- this concept has Dodge's imprint stamped into its DNA from the grille to the chrome exhaust pipe, and every body panel in between.<p>The signature crosshair grille gives Caliber the distinct face of Dodge and defines its strong, muscular front view. Wide, sculpted wheel forms, impressive 19-inch wheels and tires, broad shoulders and bulging hood give Caliber its proud, powerful stance. Large, crystal headlamps and fog lights complement the chrome grille and create an integrated look that completes Caliber's modular appearance.<p>A black graphic applique runs the length of the roof and melds into an integrated spoiler, creating a coupe-like quality from the side view. Dodge's "do more" philosophy is evident in Caliber's five doors, including a rear hatch, which provide easy access to the vehicle's spacious interior.<p>New and unique glass-to-body proportions give the Caliber concept a tough, protective presence. The forward sweep of the tailgate emphasizes Caliber's sporty profile. Chrome door handles and body-side moldings add a sense of style and polish that completes Caliber's machined exterior.<p>The rear view of the Dodge Caliber is as distinctive and powerful as the front grille. The black roof spoiler with center high-mounted stop lamp, the chrome exhaust tail pipe, and large, modular crystal taillamps that fill Caliber's rear corners provide distinct focal points of Caliber's design.<p>"Dodge Caliber's bold, graphic design and inherent interior functionality shatter the conventional definition of a compact car," Creed added. "It strongly hints at what Dodge can do to appeal to global markets."<p>Dodge sold more than 1.4 million vehicles worldwide in 2004. With a 6.9 percent market share, Dodge is the fifth largest nameplate in the United States and will arrive in European volume segments in 2006.<br>

Dodger
02-12-2005, 07:14 AM
I found some info that I thought I would post from <A HREF="http://www.allpar.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com</A> :<p>The Dodge Caliber engines will most likely be the 1.8 (140 HP, 169 Nm) in Europe, the 2.4 (170 horsepower, 224 Nm) in the US, and the 2.0 (150 HP, 190 Nm) in both regions. A 235 horsepower turbocharged 2.4 is quite likely in an SRT version. These are all variants of the The Dodge Rebel's (we're going to use the name until Chrysler announces something) engines will run from the 1.8 (probably only used outside North America) to a 235 horsepower turbo-2.4 in the SRT-4 version. The 2.4 liter naturally aspirated version will be quite potent with 170 horsepower - that's an estimate from Chrysler. All four cylinder engines will be the new world engine. <br>A diesel, probably from Mercedes, will be offered starting around calendar-year 2006, at least in Europe. One German source also suggested that the engines would start at 1.4 liters in Europe, presumably for tax reasons. <p>The Dodge Caliber and next-generation Mitsubishi Lancer are being designed jointly by Chrysler and Mitsubishi engineers. For details, see the Dodge Rebel page. <p>A Chrysler variant with PT styling is likely to be sold as the PT Cruiser. (They wouldn't call it the Chrysler Caliber, would they?) <p>Here are specs (courtesy autoindex.org): <p>Wheelbase: 103.7 inches (2635 mm)<br>Overall length: 173.8 inches (4414 mm)<br>Overall width: 68.6 inches (1743 mm)<br>Overall height: 60.4 inches (1534 mm)<br>Front overhang: 34.5 inches (876 mm)<br>Rear overhang: 35.5 inches (902 mm)<br>Front track: 59.8 inches (1520 mm)<br>Rear track: 59.8 inches (1520 mm)<br>Couple (1-2): 31.3 inches (795 mm)<br>Front Tyre/Wheel Size: 245/45R19, 19x 9 inches<br>Rear Tyre/Wheel Size: 245/45R19, 19x 9 inches <p>DOC noted these Caliber to Neon comparisons: <p>Wheelbase: 103.7/105<br>Overall length: 173.8/174.4<br>Overall width: 68.6/67.4<br>Overall height: 60.4/56 <p>

knicks125
02-12-2005, 08:52 AM
"The production version will be powered by a 2.4-litre variant of the new world engine jointly developed by DaimlerChrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi."<p>- Thestar.com<p>Also, from Businessweek:<p>Until 2000, Sonatas sold in the U.S. came with engines based on technology developed by Mitsubishi Motors Corp. In a reversal of fortune, though, both Mitsubishi and DaimlerChrysler (DCX ) have adopted the new four-cylinder Hyundai engine for their small and midsize cars -- and <B>have paid Hyundai $57 million in royalties</B> for it. "It's like a student outsmarting his teacher," - Hyundai's engine development chief.

JBlair
02-12-2005, 10:52 AM
Didn't they develop the engine together and pay for the factories together?

nismo
02-12-2005, 11:10 AM
It started as a joint thing but Hyundai basically did most of it. I doubt the base model for the US is getting the 2.4. DCX has already said they would be using the 2.0 and 2.4 for the US in many publications..<p>I wonder how the sedan version is going to look since 60in is kinda high/tall..

JBlair
02-12-2005, 12:33 PM
There is no confirmation yet that there will actually be a sedan version of this. If anything, I would bet they would do the same thing as with the Magnum and Charger and have this come out, then release a totally different sedan version.

mzoltarp
03-01-2005, 06:42 AM
It's a home run for Dodge. It does what the Toyota Matrix / Pontiac Vibe / and PT Cruiser do with style that is neither garish nor a fad. It's funny how Hyundai and Chrysler use Mitsu technology in their vehicles and yet Mitsu can't seem to survive.

62Lincoln
03-01-2005, 09:20 AM
Very clumsy detailing around the C pillars and tail lights. Not very original, seems like a riff on the Matrix and Mazda 3 (as others have already mentioned). OTOH, as a replacement for the lame little Neon, it's a giant step forward style-wise for Dodge. Too bad it will be built at the same plant as the Neon, with all the implications for quality that implies.

Dodger
03-01-2005, 03:15 PM
Just because it is going to be built at the same plant doesn't mean that it is going to be a piece of sh**

Dodger
03-02-2005, 07:47 PM
Since this was supposed to debut, do we have any more pics? Some interior ones would be nice

nismo
03-03-2005, 12:12 AM
On Allpar (i think) theres 2 pics of the dash... looks like the magnums interior but has the shifter like in the Matrix and Civic SI. Theres also mention that DCX has said at the Geneva show that theres no sedan version planned and this is the Neon replacement...

Santeno
03-03-2005, 09:40 AM
here is what Allpar has to say about the Caliber and it's sedan version [what they call] the Rebel:<p><A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/caliber.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/caliber.html</A><p><A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/rebel.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/rebel.html</A>

Dodger
03-03-2005, 01:12 PM
There are three pics of it here: <p><A HREF="http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/en_images/index.php?idRubr=&idIndex=1826&idPage=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/en...age=1</A><p>No interior shots though

against the wall
03-03-2005, 01:34 PM
is that 300c touring coming to the states?<br>

Charger
03-03-2005, 01:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carfan223</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that 300c touring coming to the states?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, thats for outside North America

knicks125
03-03-2005, 01:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carfan223</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that 300c touring coming to the states?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>don't think so

Fairsky
03-04-2005, 03:18 PM
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spannersuk
03-06-2005, 11:28 AM
I’m sorry but that interior is appalling. I thought this car was supposed to be competing with the Golf V, New Focus, Astra etc. I don’t believe the Dodge designers could have looked at these vehicles. Where is the design flair of the exterior, and the quality of the class standards. I really thought Dodge had a hit on their hands with this car but not with this interior. The Aygo, C1, 107 interior shows more imagination and better quality than this. Dodge please have a major rethink before you put this into production – mediocrity like this won’t win you new customers.

JBlair
03-06-2005, 12:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spannersuk</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I’m sorry but that interior is appalling. I thought this car was supposed to be competing with the Golf V, New Focus, Astra etc. I don’t believe the Dodge designers could have looked at these vehicles. Where is the design flair of the exterior, and the quality of the class standards. I really thought Dodge had a hit on their hands with this car but not with this interior. The Aygo, C1, 107 interior shows more imagination and better quality than this. Dodge please have a major rethink before you put this into production – mediocrity like this won’t win you new customers.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe they're not showing official pictures of it because it isn't done yet <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

scatpackmopar
03-27-2005, 05:31 AM
Supremus mentioned how much the car looks like a Volvo. I think the Magnum has a Volvish style to it. I think Dodge should offer a sedan version and a hybrid to keep pace with Honda and Toyota.

Monkey
03-27-2005, 07:47 AM
sob....<p>It wasn't in NY...

GerjurdKing
03-28-2005, 07:03 PM
I would have liked to see more of this car too. I thought the concept looked too European (not that that is a bad thing, just that it did not look like it was for the North American market).

erzhik
03-28-2005, 07:49 PM
Looks like a very small Durango... still looks pretty good

Pavilion
04-03-2005, 01:52 AM
Has there been any more word on a sedan version?

electrofreeze
04-11-2005, 09:14 AM
just can't get into this car... I like everything except for the front... Too truck-like of a grill for my tastes. Oh well, I have to applaud Dodge for having the guts, and making a bold style statement, even if I don't agree with it.

Monkey
04-11-2005, 11:31 AM
Someone should chop it with an SRT paint scheme