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Charger
01-10-2005, 02:03 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/toyota/crossover/images/1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/toyota/crossover/images/1FT-SX.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/toyota/crossover/images/22FT-SX.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/toyota/crossover/images/23%20T-SX.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/toyota/crossover/images/4FT-SX.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoweek

whipster
01-10-2005, 02:08 PM
well, styling not too interesting <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0">

AXIS
01-10-2005, 03:22 PM
this is the rumored Highlander concept? well on the plus side, although its not very attractive, its not as bland as the current Highlander however it looked like they reskinned the Lexus LF-X

-Peter-
01-10-2005, 03:31 PM
I see a lot of mazda MX cross-sport in it. And why there have to be that trunklid of the 7er in the SUV <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
01-10-2005, 03:38 PM
i don't think it looks half-bad. if the next highlander looks like this, i won't mind at all <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

Krypton
01-10-2005, 03:48 PM
same here, looks okay and isnt bland. The current highlander is a terrific car but its looks turn me off. Id be glad to see the next highlander look somewhat like this

spwolf
01-10-2005, 04:05 PM
looks strange, very concept like... Too small to be anything like highlander...

Tman2
01-10-2005, 04:27 PM
Even I, one of the biggest Toyota admirers out there, cannot defend this thing. What we have here is the most hideous mutation of an Audi front end, with some PT cruiser/RX-8 front wheel arches, a decent LF-X profile (A-pillar back), and ending with a 7-series trunklid in an SUV application. The FT-SX is the one of the worst styling jobs they have done recently. <br>I really, really hate to criticize my favorite company, but I think Toyota, although they are trying to forge their own style, are incorporating elements that (in my opinion) scream "me too".<br>The flame surfacing on the LF-C profile "borrowed" from BMW (which has been on a number of their cars already)... The thick-slated grill on the FT-SX is their take on the Audi grill... The front fender arches on the FT-SX are trying to cash in on PT Cruiser mania... <br>Toyota, what are you doing!? You are "borrowing" all the most controversial elements from your competitors when you should be leading. This is not leading... this is following, and doing a poor job at it too! You had so much promise.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tman2 at 3:32 PM 1/10/2005</i>

RetroJapan
01-10-2005, 05:48 PM
I actually really like this one... It looks a lot more like the European vehicles that Toyota sells.... <p>Hopefully they'll use some of these cues on future Toyotas... Sad that the Avalon didn't get this type of treatment...

Velocitas
01-10-2005, 06:05 PM
<br>I like the interior on this concept very much. The cabin is very open and pleasant, though as Tman mentioned, much of the exterior styling is very derivative. <br>

Shrek
01-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Very nice <br>Will this be apart of the 6 new cars that Toyota is lauching this year

Naga Royal Guard
01-10-2005, 08:38 PM
6 cars you say? <p>pressroom.toyota.com <p>its very innovative in the rear, but overall just odd

taskbearer
01-11-2005, 12:25 AM
Trully a very odd looking concept, but if it is an insight of the next highlander I think it would be a lot more posh than the current model. The interior is very simple with nice design touches, but that is the worst use of wood I have ever seen in a concept.

Shrek
01-11-2005, 04:49 AM
Ya I watched the release of the Toyota Avalon launch and they said that they had 6 new vehicles to launch this year

myredhotcar
01-11-2005, 07:23 AM
The best thing about this concept: the seats! Hot! I'd love to have them in my loft. <p>Overall knowing how generic and unoriginal toyato usually (always?) is, it's not too bad. Certainly much better than the current Highlander, which is surely a subaru forestor knock-off. Toned down for production, I doubt it will knock Murano off as best crossover design...so far.

knicks125
01-11-2005, 07:26 AM
At first glance, the concept reminds a bit of the FX

syclone
01-11-2005, 09:14 AM
I love the interior. Why can the interiors of acutual cars never look as good as these concepts <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
01-11-2005, 05:09 PM
i actually like this car a lot. the parts i do not like (the front grille, for instance) would never make it anyway to production. and the rear would work better if the ledge ran constantly through the middle instead of recessing back for the toyota sign. overall, actually looks quite sporty and nice.

autodanse
01-15-2005, 06:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jarrett</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very nice <br>Will this be apart of the 6 new cars that Toyota is lauching this year</TD></TR></TABLE><p>does anyone know exactly what the 6 consist of?

RetroJapan
01-15-2005, 08:16 PM
I would think:<p>RX400h<br>Highlander Hybrid<br>New Lexus IS<br>New Lexus GS<br>Avalon<br>FJ Cruiser

spwolf
01-15-2005, 09:05 PM
actually, 22 new models in the USA...

JBlair
01-15-2005, 11:03 PM
That sounds high, even for the imports.

Naga Royal Guard
01-16-2005, 11:00 AM
ok, consider this:<p>IS 300 -&gt; 1 model<br>IS 300 Manual -&gt; 1 model<br>IS 300 with leather/ navigation -&gt; 1 model<br>RX 400h 2wd -&gt; 1 Model<br>RX 400h Awd -&gt; 1 Model<p>Tacoma with Bed Extender -&gt; 1 model<br>Camry Extra Special Edition -&gt; 1 Model<p>GS 300 Rwd -&gt; 1 model<br>GS 300 Rwd Premium -&gt; 1 model<br>GS 300 Awd -&gt; 1 model<br>GS 300 Awd with Navi -&gt; 1 model<p><br>when toyota decides to release 200 models in 18 months, same story, many trims

Chicho
01-24-2005, 08:24 AM
Another R-class but not Mercedes <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>More info here:<p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=7910&A_SESS=3bcb3aedefe9f1eb0f6b4e10533cf96e" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/aktuell...cf96e</A>#

JBlair
01-24-2005, 11:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, consider this:<p>IS 300 -&gt; 1 model<br>IS 300 Manual -&gt; 1 model<br>IS 300 with leather/ navigation -&gt; 1 model<br>RX 400h 2wd -&gt; 1 Model<br>RX 400h Awd -&gt; 1 Model<p>Tacoma with Bed Extender -&gt; 1 model<br>Camry Extra Special Edition -&gt; 1 Model<p>GS 300 Rwd -&gt; 1 model<br>GS 300 Rwd Premium -&gt; 1 model<br>GS 300 Awd -&gt; 1 model<br>GS 300 Awd with Navi -&gt; 1 model<p><br>when toyota decides to release 200 models in 18 months, same story, many trims</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ok, I didn't know that Lexus was included in the 22 number. If you did that with all automakers then they would all seem high. (Consider DCX last year with 9 new introductions at the Chrysler group alone).

knicks125
01-24-2005, 11:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Ok, I didn't know that Lexus was included in the 22 number. If you did that with all automakers then they would all seem high. (Consider DCX last year with 9 new introductions at the Chrysler group alone). </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Except a Chrysler is not a MB, but a Lexus is a Toyota.<p>Lexus is a division of Toyota, not an automaker, Chrysler is consider as an automaker, on its own, regardless of its affiliation with DCX <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
01-24-2005, 02:04 PM
Many would disagree, but that argument is a different topic.

knicks125
01-24-2005, 02:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Many would disagree, but that argument is a different topic.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Then please educate me...

spwolf
01-24-2005, 05:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Then please educate me...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>most of new chryslers borrow heavily from MB, while Lexus is moving away from that direction. Toyota/Lexus is more like VW/Audi although there is going to be bigger differentiation within a year than VW/Audi.<p>And Naga, 22 models does include variations of model but not trims. So yes, GS will be counted as 3 models.<p>GS300<br>GS430<br>GS450h<br>RX400h<br>IS250<br>IS350<br>Avalon<br>Highlander Hybrid<br>Echo<br>Rav4<br>FJ Cruiser<p>So thats 11 so far for 2005. Some new cross-over should be in somewhere as well.<br>If they said 6 vehicles, then it probably means only Toyota...<br>

knicks125
01-25-2005, 06:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>most of new chryslers borrow heavily from MB, while Lexus is moving away from that direction. Toyota/Lexus is more like VW/Audi although there is going to be bigger differentiation within a year than VW/Audi.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>spwolf, I agree with you. I was trying to tell JBlair that Lexus isn't an automaker (only a division of Toyota), but Chrysler is. <p>Lexus never existed until Toyota created that division; while Chrysler existed before the merger to form DaimlerChrysler AG - termed a "merger of equals". So, Toyota can include all of the models, Lexus and Scion, however they wanted to, while Chrsyler, should only be counted as its own models, regardless of its affiliation or how much technology it borrowed from MB.<p>Generally, new models are counted by each automaker, not by each brand.<p>Ex: Honda can say it released seven new models from Honda and Acura<br>but Hyundai-Kia can only say they released seven new models from either Hyundai or Kia, but not both.

Naga Royal Guard
01-25-2005, 07:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then please educate me...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>just an excuse for a triviality <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0">

KaRaceR
01-25-2005, 09:54 AM
the front looks really nice,<br>as well as the rims and the interior lookin great too,<br>the back end im not to sure about

Naga Royal Guard
01-25-2005, 09:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then please educate me...</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

KebabGud
01-26-2005, 01:57 PM
<br>i dont think the Lexus is part of the new Toyotas..<br>

knicks125
01-26-2005, 02:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KebabGud</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>i dont think the Lexus is part of the new Toyotas..<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><B>new</B> Toyotas? may I ask what the diff. is from the <B>old</B>? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Please explain your argument...don't just put an one-liner and expect us to understand. I, for one, certainly didn't get it...and if Lexus is not part of the new Toyotas, then what is Lexus? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
01-26-2005, 03:15 PM
Earlier you claimed that all Lexus' (Lexi?) were just Toyota's in Drag. The new generation Lexus' (starting with the new GS) are most definitely not just Toyotas. Technically you could consider Lexus its own automaker by your own standards, because it has its own design center, engineering staff and so forth. By the same token, Chrysler could be considered a division of DCX, because a majority of its' operational decisions are not made by Chrysler's leadership (almost all have to be approved by DCX). I would say that the standard for being considered an Automaker would be that it operates completely independent from its governing entity, so in my view, neither qualify as being their own automaker.

KebabGud
01-26-2005, 03:15 PM
the new Toyotas = the new toyotas that are suposed to come this year.. you know.. the new toyota models .. all those 22 models..( a one year old would understand that.. but not you........)<p>Lexus is a seperat brand from toyota (yes they are.. ) <br>you must not mix the TMC and the brand Toyota..<br>TMC ownes Toyota, Lexus, Daihatsu, Hino and Scion..<br>when Toyota (the brand) says they are coming with 22new models.. they mean the BRAND ..<br>when TMC says they are coming with 22new models.. they mean all of the brands..<br>as far as i know Toyota is coming with 22 models.. <p>

JBlair
01-26-2005, 03:19 PM
Show me proof from Toyota, because companies (especially automotive companies) like to pull fast ones that make their numbers look better than their competitor's. (Take for example the fact that the Sequoia's ground clearance is not actually as high as Toyota claimed because they measured from a different point than the industry-standard to make it seem as if it had more than its competitors)

knicks125
01-26-2005, 03:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KebabGud</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the new Toyotas = the new toyotas that are suposed to come this year.. you know.. the new toyota models .. all those 22 models..( a one year old would understand that.. but not you........)<p>Lexus is a seperat brand from toyota (yes they are.. ) <br>you must not mix the TMC and the brand Toyota..<br>TMC ownes Toyota, Lexus, Daihatsu, Hino and Scion..<br>when Toyota (the brand) says they are coming with 22new models.. they mean the BRAND ..<br>when TMC says they are coming with 22new models.. they mean all of the brands..<br>as far as i know Toyota is coming with 22 models.. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>"a one year old would understand that.. but not you........" - I am not gonna sink that low like you, obviously only a one year old would make a remark like that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I can't add up 22 new models (US) from just Toyota brand alone for CY05

JBlair
01-26-2005, 03:28 PM
The whole freakin' Toyota BRAND doesn't have 22 models.

KebabGud
01-26-2005, 04:21 PM
Toyota had 80 diffrent models worldwide ... <br>everything from a PSA- Toyota minicar to the Century..<p>i dont think that all those 22 are just for the US marked (btw.. where did you get 22 from?.. i heard 14 or somthing.. )

JBlair
01-26-2005, 04:29 PM
Spwolf said 22 models, all of which were slated for introduction in the US.

Naga Royal Guard
01-26-2005, 04:36 PM
<A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0501/13/B02-58761.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/au...1.htm</A>

JBlair
01-26-2005, 05:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0501/13/B02-58761.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/au...1.htm</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Looks like Lexus is indeed included in that 22 number.

CARSRTHEWORLD
01-29-2005, 04:24 AM
Nothing much new, just a few more pictures and a article:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Car/Toyota/4-Runner/1815563143.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Car/Toyota/4-Runner/1815562927.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The front of Toyotas FT-SX concept could show the design direction of future Toyota models. Designed at the Japanese makers US studio, the FT-SX features deep sculpted lines from the A-pillars through the grille and bumper and back to the front wheels.<p>Toyota says the FT-SX could appeal to buyers who require the practicality and space of a traditional 4x4, but want a more environmentally-friendly vehicle. Its described as lower and wider than a 4x4, but taller and more versatile than a saloon. The concept uses a 3.5-litre V6 and has four-wheel-drive.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Source: AutoCar

anonms
02-13-2005, 12:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CARSRTHEWORLD</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nothing much new, just a few more pictures and a article:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Car/Toyota/4-Runner/1815563143.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: AutoCar</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Why that front end? Ugh.<p>As long as they don't use Ford's Mach3 razor blades, fine.