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DoMiNo
11-19-2008, 04:46 AM
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5969/battlebannergb7.jpg


Welcome to the CSS Design Battleground, an exciting new addition to the CSS Automotive Design Contests section and a place for our designers to hone their skills by challenging their peers to one-on-one design battles.

These are not ordinary design contests. The emphasis here will be on speed and innovative ideas, as a short (72 hour) time limit will narrow the time available for finely-polished presentations.

The rules are as follows:
A CSS designer will challenge another resident designer to a sort of "duel," wherein both parties will provide designs meeting the criteria established by the moderator (with community input). Each topic will be set with the intention of challenging the chosen designers to the fullest; don't expect a topic that will play to your already-established individual strengths. The challengers themselves are expected to be of comparable skill level (a "tier" system may be instituted later on) and the challenged designer must agree to the battle. There will be no penalty (i.e. no automatic forfeiture) for those unable to participate in a battle when challenged, but if a designer accepts a challenge and is unable to complete an entry within the allotted timeframe, he will automatically forfeit the contest and cede victory to the opposing designer.
From the time the moderator posts the topic, challengers will have ~72 hours (3 days) to compete their entries. As mentioned above, should one challenger not finish his entry in that time, he will forfeit the contest and the opposing challenger will win by default. There will be no extensions. We are trying to maintain a fast pace in these contests; do not accept a challenge if you don't think you can get an entry in on time.
As soon as a designer has posted his entry, there may be no modification to or substitution of the design. Once both challengers have posted their entries, the contest will close and voting will commence. Voting guidelines are simple; as there will only be two entries in each battle, we will eschew the point system. Voting on who you feel has best met the topic criteria, you will simply post the name of the designer you think should win. When voting tapers off, the moderator will close the thread at his discretion and award the victory to the challenger with the most votes. In the event of a draw, the almighty Ascariss will be consulted as a tie-breaker.
A running tally of winners (and their respective number of victories) will be posted in this space for future reference; as written above, we are considering a tier system in which designers will be divided (by an impartial party) according to their level of skill. Designers from lower levels, by repeatedly winning their challenges, will have the opportunity to climb to upper levels. Accordingly, upper-level designers who lose a certain number of times can be demoted. We're still fine-tuning this; as you may imagine it is hard to assign "rank" and it can seem arbitrary. Perhaps it would be best if we self-identified and assigned ourselves to a particular level. I dunno, we will have to see how this works out.The success of these contests rests in your hands; strong participation and a willingness to do battle will be essential. As the contest evolves and the system gets more competitive, this will be a terrific way to hone your skills and up your game.

Without further ado, and to paraphrase Iron Chef (http://www.foodnetwork.com/iron-chef-america/index.html):


LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!!

DoMiNo
11-19-2008, 04:46 AM
CSS Design Battleground: LEADERBOARD

1. Battle Kei Car - Steve Neill def. mrfdesign (21/11/08)
2. Battle Viper - taskbearer def. Steve Neill (27/11/08)
3. Battle Lancia - taskbearer def. AXIS (08/12/08)
4. Battle Ute - taskbearer def. MartinEDesign (18/12/08)
5. Battle Saab - NelsonDesign def. 2o6 (28/12/08)
6. Battle Hot Rod - TIE (NelsonDesign vs. PRODIGY)
7. Battle Maybach - PRODIGY def. NelsonDesign (11/01/09)
8. Battle Lotus Elise - PRODIGY def. SV (19/01/09)
9. Battle Ferrari Mondial - PRODIGY def. Kramer (02/02/09)
10. Battle World Car - mrfdesign def. ElementW (19/02/09)
11. Battle Police Car - MartinEDesign. def. mrfdesign (03/03/09)
12. Battle KTM - MartinEDesign def. NelsonDesign (20/03/09)


Standings Competitor (# of Victories)

1. taskbearer/PRODIGY (3)
2. MartinEDesign (2)
2. Steve Neill / NelsonDesign / mrfdesign (1)

NelsonDesign
11-19-2008, 04:59 AM
hehe, I'm excited, this looks awesome, who do you guys think I compare to?

DoMiNo
11-19-2008, 05:00 AM
BATTLE 1: mrfdesign vs. Steve Neill

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BATTLE KEI CAR

The diminutive Kei cars that populate Japan's narrow, crowded streets are, by necessity, very constrained in size and engine output. Their limitations help owners skirt steep auto and gasoline taxes while providing ample passenger room in a very easily maneuverable package.

However, the severe packaging restrictions imposed on Kei cars mean that too often, for the sake of practicality, they are essentially designed as boxes on wheels to maximize space. With the rare exception of cars like the Mitsubishi i, Kei cars from different manufacturers are quite often nearly indistinguishable from one another.

But having recently witnessed a crest in the rapidly-rising tide of petrol prices and given the assumption that, sooner or later, that rise will continue (perhaps indefinitely), it's obvious that Kei cars are more important now than ever. And to many, they represent the ideal blend of frugality and practicality. But there is still room for innovation in this segment, be it stylistic or technological, and it is your job to design a Kei car for a new generation of style-conscious and performance-hungry JDM consumers.

Restrictions will remain largely in place: a maximum length of 3.4 meters, max width of 1.48 meters, max height of 2 meters, and a maximum engine output of 660cc. I will however waive the power restriction of 63hp (47kW).

Best of luck challengers, this contest will close on November 21st.

mrfdesign
11-19-2008, 10:51 PM
Introducing the 2010 Daihatsu Raikou

With the "Kei" cars becoming more popular yet most look like blobs or really simple, the Raikou stands out in the "tiny" car crowd. Its electric motor produces 85kw with a top speed of 100mph. The Raikou can do 180 miles per charge and can be charged at your home with its in-garage charging system. Its styling is aggressive and sculpted. The Raikou features LED day lights, xenon headlights and LEDs in the wing mirrors for indicating as well as lighting. The rims also feature strip lamps that illuminate when the car is switched on. The rear features thin strip lights that wrap around the rear windscreen and house LEDs. The inside is fully customisable and features designer seats in funky colors. The dash is finished in textile cloth that matches with the seats. Note the grille, it is obviously not used to cool down the engine lol. Its in fact a black plastic backing.

Just a quick one unfortunately. Im busy with my industrial design portfolio!! lol. Hope u guys like!
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6305/dsc00065vm0.jpg

Steve Neill
11-19-2008, 11:22 PM
Nice Daihatsu!

Chrysler takes one last stab at the world market!!!

The NEW DODGE C-SQUARED

A new Dodge, built with a more economic world in mind.

With 60HP coming from it's electric engine rear wheels, this little boogiebox will throw you fun through the corners, as well as leaving your wallet that little less empty. Electric power means MORE TORQUE.

Coming in a wide range of colors, the color shown is "Transcendence Burgundy" and shown is the S-Spec model.

The model variations are as followed:

E-Spec - Economy
C-Spec - Comfort
S-Spec - Sport
R-Spec - Rally

In Economy Spec, the car is very frugal, but with a high MPG rating of 51/48 the car is a great little daily commuter.

In Comfort Spec, we add AM/FM Radio, with optional CD, and air conditioning. You also have the option of electric windows, locks, and aluminum wheels.

In Sport Spec, you get the added bonus of 5lbs/ft of torque, giving this car great torque of 103lbs/ft. Not to mention, fog lights are now optional, as well as all optional equipment on the C-Spec as standard.

In Rally Spec, you get everything the S-Spec gets, plus a squeezed out 2 more lbs/ft of torque, bringing it up to 105, and an aluminum hood, and even lighter magnesium wheels, as well as a lowered suspension, and optional navigation system with BOSE surround sound.

Where can the C-Squared take you?

The question is, where can you take the C-Squared!?

DODGE

It's a Lifestyle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/stealth01/DodgeC2.jpg

DoMiNo
11-20-2008, 12:24 AM
That's the kind of speed I'm talking about!

Battle Kei Car is closed. Commence the voting!!!

Remember, no need for points. Simply post the name of the contender you believe best fulfilled the criteria of the brief.

CosworthKid
11-20-2008, 12:41 AM
although i am a big fan of mrfdesign's work my vote this time goes to Steve Neil since i like the idea of an American proposal to this, so far, uniquely & exclusively, JDM segment. Good presentation as well

PRODIGY
11-20-2008, 12:51 AM
Steve Neill

I like mrfdesign's kei car too, it has some funky detailing, but weird proportions. Steve's looks more complete and harmonious.

AXIS
11-20-2008, 01:28 AM
Steve Neill

mrfdesign nice design but it looks alot like a caricature.

NelsonDesign
11-20-2008, 01:48 AM
I am gonna disagree with all of you and vote for MRFDESIGN, I think that the idea for an American Kei car is cool, but I think that Mrfdesign got his design right. Good job though Steve

2o6
11-20-2008, 03:39 AM
SteveNeil. Mrfdesign's car is nice, but the preportions are too "normal".

taskbearer
11-20-2008, 04:08 AM
Goodness gracious! That was fast. You both did some really stunning work.

mrfdesign - very funky styling and clever deatailing. The best part is you have created a really cool daihatsu grille that can become the new face of daihatsu. The proportion is very cartoonish, but expected considering the dimensional constraints. The "suzuki Twin" hybrid comes to mind. The wheels are really stylish. The only sour spot is the turn signal on the miror. I think it would look better if it were just a single circle, or a rim on the outer edge of the wing mirror.

Steve Neil - a really good quick render. It goes straight to the point. This design works really well with the dodge cues. The most notable feature being the crease that runs up from the fog light through the side of the headlight up to the A-pillar. That is a really good graphical component. It does have some sporty flair to it despite its practicality. The low point is the tail light which does not work well wtih such small dimensions.

Verdict - Steve's design is way more practical, although distinctly dodge, its design might not age well. mrfdesign's daihatsu is by far less practical, but is easier to identify among the sea of kei cars due to its unique profile. Presentation wise Steve has this but in the end I settle with mrfdesign for the win

Kramer
11-20-2008, 05:45 AM
Steve Neill

Great design, I didn't really like the proportions of mrf's car (front end looked a bit off) and I love how the Dodge continues the aggressive "Dodge" style yet manages to stay unique.

swizzle
11-20-2008, 02:44 PM
Steve has my vote

MartinEDesign
11-20-2008, 04:09 PM
I say Steve Neil :P I think it has the Dodge feel too it

LamboMan
11-20-2008, 04:23 PM
Mrfdesign

The Japanese will certainly go for your car's look

Rob
11-20-2008, 05:08 PM
...mrfdesign gets my vote...
That was fast lol. From a design point of view, I would say mrfdesign.

DoMiNo
11-21-2008, 05:32 PM
The voting for Battle Kei Car has ended. The final tally of votes is:


Steve Neill - 7
mrfdesign - 4

Congratulations to Steve on becoming the inaugural winner at the CSS Design Battleground. Your name will be posted to the leaderboard and it is now your responsibility to carry on the challenge by nominating a new challenger via PM. Once a challenger has agreed, PM me with the matchup and I will in turn provide a topic and post the new battle.

For those of you who PMed me with your own matchups, sit tight. I'm trying to workout a system whereby we can have a couple of contests going at once. This may involve some sort of self-assigned tier ranking to establish sets of competitors.

DoMiNo
11-23-2008, 04:42 PM
BATTLE 2: Steve Neill vs. taskbearer

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BATTLE VIPER


Chrysler's dire financial situation has forced management to rethink its product strategy; a renewed focus on quality and economy promises more compelling cars, but there is no free lunch. Some of Chrysler Corp.'s signature products may well face the chopping block (or the auction block) as the company scrounges for the funds necessary to design new vehicles and retool its factories.

Perhaps the most prominent casualty of this restructuring will be the Dodge Viper. The brutish and iconic sledgehammer of a sports car, over 15 years and two generations, has been a phenomenal halo vehicle for Chrysler's brands. But it no longer makes sense given the financial crisis and Chrysler's corresponding shift in priorities; mainstream vehicles take precedence as the company seeks to reestablish itself as a viable player in the automotive market.

Instead of killing the Viper, Chrysler corporation has weighed interest from several suitors regarding a possible spinoff and sale of Viper as its own brand. Imagine that this has indeed taken place; Chrysler has sold off the Viper brand to the highest bidder, and the new owners now have carte blanche to reimagine the vehicle from the ground up. Your task is to design the new, post-Chrysler Viper. You can preserve its extreme, rough-around-the-edges character or completely refine it. You can make it a sprawling supercar or a tiny, razor-sharp roadster. Hell, you can give it two doors or four. It's all up to you.


This battle will end November 26. Best of luck designers!

Steve Neill
11-23-2008, 08:48 PM
Dodge VIPER Carve

Let's pretend for one moment that overheated, overpriced, and overburdened were no longer part of Viper vocabulary.

That instead, super lightweight, super agility, and super traction, plus all the infamous Viper power was what this car was all about.

Well that's now our Oath. Viper no longer being a car...

But a Car Company.

Gone is the crosshairs grille.

Gone is the heating problems.

Gone is the cheap quality.

Now what we have here, is a 1200KG Gluestick.

Making 700HP, with AWD, and 800lbs/ft of torque, this car BEGS to be driven hard and fast. It loses weight where it matters, in the interior, and the luxury, but comes biting back at you with all it's incredible downforce.

Top Speed? 220 MPH.
0-60? 2.9 Seconds.
G's? 1.2.

Gone is what you knew.

Here is Viper Carve:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/stealth01/Viper.jpg

mrfdesign
11-23-2008, 09:55 PM
That going to be hard to beat...

swizzle
11-24-2008, 12:23 AM
Great design, but it's too "anime" to be an American Viper. It would make a stunning Acura.

Steve Neill
11-24-2008, 12:49 AM
Great design, but it's too "anime" to be an American Viper. It would make a stunning Acura.

Ummm...

I didn't want it to look Japanese at all.

And I personally don't think it does.

But thanks for the feedback. :)

yourlilbro
11-24-2008, 05:23 AM
Dayyum, this one-on-one battle sounds fun, I'd really like to be contested with someone. I haven't been drawing for awhile, So I'd like to see how I fare after all these months :)

MartinEDesign
11-24-2008, 07:59 AM
Man thata is crazy! I would like to see the car that beats that :D

swizzle
11-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Ummm...I didn't want it to look Japanese at all. And I personally don't think it does. But thanks for the feedback. :)

I honestly don't "see" Viper in it, but so what? It is still a 10/10 design. I think it's the surface excitement and detailing that give me the Japanese vibe. And yes, I understand that the parameters of this round focus on a "clean sheet" Viper. I can actually envision the production version, just not as a Viper. That said though, you will be tough to beat in this round.

taskbearer
11-24-2008, 05:39 PM
Here's my take.

Introducing the 2012 Viper. Complete with a reworked V10 engine producing 650hp courtesy of direct injection
The heart of this machine still holds a strong link to all previous vipers. The chassis is all new. Using a carbon fiber passenger cell and aluminum frame for the suspension and engine mounts. The shortened and high tech platform was chosen to reduce weight. This should appeal to new Viper customers and long time Viper fans.


http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p83/taskbearer/dodgevipersketch_small.jpg

knihc2008
11-24-2008, 05:50 PM
Design is rough around the edges and I'd love to see a more polished sketch but damn taskbearer that design has some serious potential.

Rob
11-24-2008, 06:06 PM
The Viper's grille on Steve's entry looks like a Viper's (snake's) mouth IMO. Good work, I like the headlights too. Like knihc said, the design is a bit rough around the edges, but the idea itself is great. Love the big, agressive grille and double bubble roof. :thumbsup: to both of you!

DoMiNo
11-24-2008, 06:27 PM
Battle Viper is closed. Commence the voting!!!

Remember, no need for points. Simply post the name of the contender you believe best fulfilled the criteria of the brief.

Rob
11-24-2008, 06:31 PM
I vote for Steve Neill. I'm really liking these battles. :)

AXIS
11-24-2008, 07:36 PM
Although equally as stunning I find Steve's entry to be a bit polarizing. My vote goes to taskbearer this design is easily recognizable as a Viper yet modern and different enough to appeal to brand loyalists and lure new customers.

PRODIGY
11-24-2008, 07:49 PM
I really can't decide between them! Sorry guys, i'm gonna have to refrain from voting. I'd like either to win!

VexedandGlorious
11-24-2008, 08:03 PM
taskbearer

MartinEDesign
11-24-2008, 09:19 PM
Steve Neil for his cool and very aggressive car!

BryanRW
11-24-2008, 10:16 PM
Steve Neill

DoMiNo
11-25-2008, 12:40 AM
I think taskbearer was wise to maintain a thread of resemblance with the current and former Viper. It may not have much history, but it has history nonetheless, and I think it would be a shame to abandon entirely the style that has made the Viper a modern icon. My vote goes to taskbearer.

NelsonDesign
11-25-2008, 03:31 AM
Gonna have to go with taskbearer on this one, nice job though steve. And this is NOT because you won already lol.

swizzle
11-25-2008, 03:59 AM
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p83/taskbearer/dodgevipersketch_small.jpg

Both are excellent, but I vote taskbearer because there is Viper DNA in his sketch and yet it is also cleanly interpreted. Both were 10/10 in my book.

mrfdesign
11-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Steve neill - awesomely unique
taskbearer - simplicity at its best
my vote goes to steve because his design seems more thought out and unique to anything else i've seen

LamboMan
11-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Steve Niell has my vote. Gr8 design dude.

ajprice
11-25-2008, 04:45 PM
Steve Neill for me.

It moves things on, but still has a lot of Viper mk1 and mk2 in the side vents, roll hoop, vented bonnet etc. Love the look of it.

CosworthKid
11-25-2008, 07:34 PM
Both are excellent, but I vote taskbearer because there is Viper DNA in his sketch and yet it is also cleanly interpreted.

Same here so my vote goes to taskbearer

Kramer
11-26-2008, 05:47 AM
taskbearer.
No offense to Steve's design, but I really like the throwback to previous-gen Vipers. Some brand history is good!

Steve Neill
11-27-2008, 07:00 PM
Looks like Taskbearer has this in the bag.

Congrats Man! :)

DoMiNo
11-27-2008, 07:11 PM
The voting for Battle Viper has ended. The final tally of votes is:


taskbearer - 7
Steve Neill - 6

Close race, guys. Thanks to the entrants and voters, and congrats to taskbearer for the win! Let me know who you'd like to challenge and we'll get the next battle underway.

swizzle
11-28-2008, 03:59 AM
Congrats taskbearer! Well-deserved win! Steve this was a CLOSE contest in my opinion. Get back in there as soon as someone is ready to stare down the barrel of your design gun. I'm looking forward to your next design "attack".

AXIS
12-01-2008, 07:47 AM
2010 Lancia Stratos

A modern interpretation of the iconic Stratos. A limited run model intended to drive traffic into the showrooms and once again get tongues wagging about Lancia cars.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/hellospaceboy/Stratos.jpg

mrfdesign
12-01-2008, 04:01 PM
Hmmm, i think you should of just done a sketch mate, rushing a render is not worth it. Design wise its a bit simple, nothing wow about it but nothing bad about it either. Perpective is a bit off in areas but overall its not bad mate

Steve Neill
12-01-2008, 05:29 PM
2010 Lancia Stratos

Nice look, but you should have used your extra day to refine it a bit more! :grintoothless:

swizzle
12-02-2008, 02:10 PM
Nice look, but you should have used your extra day to refine it a bit more! :grintoothless:

Agreed. It's retro in the DLO and has a Ferrari Boxer meets Lamborghini Gallardo kind of nose. For me it's a 7/10 because all of the good elements are there, but they have not adequately come together cohesively yet.

CosworthKid
12-02-2008, 02:21 PM
Agreed. It's retro in the DLO and has a Ferrari Boxer meets Lamborghini Gallardo kind of nose. For me it's a 7/10 because all of the good elements are there, but they have not adequately come together cohesively yet.

I will have to agree with that:idonknow:

taskbearer
12-02-2008, 11:31 PM
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p83/taskbearer/lanciakappa.jpg

DoMiNo
12-02-2008, 11:45 PM
Battle Lancia is closed. Commence the voting!!!

Remember, no need for points. Simply post the name of the contender you believe best fulfilled the criteria of the brief.

Steve Neill
12-03-2008, 12:00 AM
AXIS

Sorry Taskbearer, but it reminds me of a snowplow.

swizzle
12-03-2008, 01:51 AM
Hands down for me: AXIS

PRODIGY
12-03-2008, 11:31 AM
The Stratos looks to me like a late 1990s attempt at a Stratos revival. It's clean and classy, but it looks a little bit dated to me, and not in a retro sense if you know what I mean.

So the vote goes to taskbearer. Classic Lancia styling, evolving the Thesis look nicely, tons of elegance built in, great work!

MartinEDesign
12-03-2008, 03:47 PM
My vote goes to Taskbearer really great concept sketches! The rear is simply amazing and you should keep on working at it!! But the front could need some work..
Sorry axis but I think yours is too simple..

Rob
12-03-2008, 06:02 PM
Taskbearer gets my vote.

mrfdesign
12-03-2008, 11:32 PM
Lovely effort taskbearer. Love the design alot! I think the front end was rushed a bit but i can imagine wat it should look like judging from the excellent rear drawings. Its really awesome. Very lancia as well. So my vote goes to u. I cant wait to battle u ! Haha

swizzle
12-04-2008, 03:38 AM
The real question is what does Lancia NEED? A niche sportscar or a minivan/CUV/SUV/segmentbuster/idunnowhatthehellit is?

VexedandGlorious
12-04-2008, 03:43 AM
The minivan/CUV/SUV/segmentbuster/idunnowhatthehellit is is the better design this round.
Taskbearer

NelsonDesign
12-04-2008, 04:49 AM
Gonna go with Taskbearer again on this one, not my favorite design from him but better than AXIS's simple lancia, nice job though AXIS.

CosworthKid
12-04-2008, 01:35 PM
taskbearer

DoMiNo
12-08-2008, 05:18 PM
The voting for BATTLE LANCIA has ended. The final tally of votes is:


taskbearer - 7
AXIS - 2

Congratulations to taskbearer for becoming our first back-to-back winner! Choose your next challenger and get back to me :cool:

taskbearer
12-09-2008, 02:31 AM
I have to pick two new challengers to go against each other right?, or do I just pick one challenger to go against myself?


Thanks guys for the votes, and good job AXIS on your lancia. I'll have to do some more work on the front, but its strange that the front looks unfinished. I spent the most time on getting the front right. The rear was done as an afterthought. I always do it last once I'm satisfied with the front design. It just happened to suit the car well. here's where the inspiration for the rear vents came from.

http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag310/nouveautes-etrangeres/lancia-ypsilon-sport-1.jpg

DoMiNo
12-09-2008, 04:06 AM
Pick another challenger to go against you. We'll cap wins at 3. PM me when you've worked it out. Congrats again.

NelsonDesign
12-10-2008, 01:39 AM
Finally back from some "sleeping", yet, I don't have a scanner at the time so I won't be submitting much.

DoMiNo
12-11-2008, 01:17 AM
BATTLE 4: taskbearer vs. MartinEDesign

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BATTLE "UTE"

Particularly popular in Latin America for their blend of utility and economy, and beloved in tire-smoking V8 guise Down Under, car-based pickup trucks known as Utes combine the practical aspects of a pickup truck with the economy and handling characteristics of a car. The recent spike in gas prices put a serious damper on large truck sales, but the need for practical open-bed vehicles remained. Utes offer a sportier, more economical alternative to larger body-on-frame trucks and would most likely fit the bill for many buyers who would otherwise have to spring for a larger pickup.<o:p></o:p>

Unfortunately Utes have limited appeal in many markets; it’s your job to change this. Design a stylish and supremely practical car-based pickup truck that will broaden the appeal of the Ute in traditionally strong markets and in brand new ones. It must be capable, it must be frugal, and it must be cheap. Your ute can come from any existing manufacturer.

This battle will end December 13. Best of luck designers!

taskbearer
12-14-2008, 03:04 AM
And here's my take on this topic.

Its a Subaru forester based UTE. Albeit with more emotional styling.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p83/taskbearer/subarubakie.jpg

CosworthKid
12-14-2008, 10:42 AM
Front is confusing to me mate but the side view and rear end are amazing!!!!

swizzle
12-14-2008, 02:23 PM
This thread is not displaying correctly for me.

PRODIGY
12-14-2008, 06:26 PM
This thread is not displaying correctly for me. .


Same here! To see the whole thread I had to click on 'quote' and then scroll down as the 'reply' icon isn't even showing.

MartinEDesign
12-14-2008, 06:57 PM
Hey guys here is my ute:

http://tegnebordet.dk/tegninger/12704/1229277289.jpg

I hope you like it. I don't really like the front, wich didn't turned out as I liked.. But I think the side and the rear are good.
The idea with the rear, is that you can get some metal cover over your stuff in the trunk, so you can have 2 layers of stuff :P

DoMiNo
12-15-2008, 01:36 AM
Thanks for the PMs guys. I'm not sure at all why the thread isn't displaying correctly; is everyone still having that problem?

I will close this as soon as I am certain that everyone can read it ok.

Ascariss
12-15-2008, 02:08 AM
I think I got it fixed now, there was an error in the thread, deleted a few posts with no contest entries to see what would happen :P

DoMiNo
12-15-2008, 02:10 AM
Thanks Ascariss....can everyone confirm?

Ascariss
12-15-2008, 02:13 AM
it should be fine now, since I can now access the posts options for editing it.

swizzle
12-15-2008, 03:12 AM
WOO HOO! I can see them now! I'm not a fan of utes so perhaps I am jaundiced. Taskbearer gets my vote for believability, but I don't like the nose at all. It's too busy for me. Tamed for production, Taskbearer has the better design. The DLO on MartinEDesign's entry is too exaggerated for me.

my vote: Taskbearer

DoMiNo
12-15-2008, 03:32 AM
Battle Ute is closed! Commence the voting!

Again, thanks for your patience everyone. Just a random scripting error or some such nonsense.

swizzle
12-15-2008, 04:38 AM
Taskbearer for me..see previous post...

DoMiNo
12-15-2008, 04:57 AM
Taskbearer for me..see previous post...

yep, no worries, I saw it :)

Superfresa
12-15-2008, 05:26 AM
Taskbearer :)

Well done too to Martin, but taskbearer has my vote.

CosworthKid
12-15-2008, 10:55 AM
Taskbearer for me as well (again!)

PRODIGY
12-15-2008, 04:48 PM
It was close, but MartinEDesign gets my vote.

Taskbearer, I like the sporty stance and rear end, but that front end troubles me. It's different to the norm, but it has one of those faces that only a mother could love! Lol!

Martin's design is a bit different too, and the face isn't beautifull, but it's the one i'd buy if these were on sale. I think the lack of brand identity hinders it a bit, and I can't really see any features that would suit a particular brand, but it looks really funky!

Steve Neill
12-15-2008, 11:52 PM
MartinEDesign.

Sorry if I spelled that wrong, I'm a little topsy turvy right now.

NelsonDesign
12-16-2008, 05:19 AM
Gonna go with Taskbearer again, sorry Martin, nice job though

LamboMan
12-18-2008, 05:48 PM
taskbearer has my vote.
Martin ur design is really funky but nyc!

DoMiNo
12-18-2008, 06:19 PM
The voting for BATTLE LANCIA has ended. The final tally of votes is:

taskbearer - 5
MartinEDesign - 2

Congratulations to taskbearer for the win and for becoming our first contender to sweep three straight battles. He'll now step down, and will choose two contenders to go head-to-head in the next battle. He will also choose the topic.

Congrats again taskbearer, and let me know when you've made your decision!

DoMiNo
12-21-2008, 08:43 AM
BATTLE 5: 2o6 vs. NelsonDesign

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BATTLE SAAB


Whither the Saabs of old? The quirky and unashamedly Swedish cars that turned heads with their daring wedge-shaped profiles, inspired confidence with their peppy turbocharged powerplants, and reassured with their safety innovations? The brand survives, but has languished under the GM umbrella; watered down and laden with anonymous GM parts, the soul is gone from the current Saab models. Let's face it, badging aside, a 9-7x is no more Swedish than that $5.99 desk lamp you bought at IKEA.

Take Saab back to its roots. Remind people that there are actually two major automakers in Sweden, and that Saab is here to stay. Design a car that will capture the world's attention with slick Swedish design but with enough mass appeal to grow Saab's sales; a car to ensure the marque's long-term suvival in this cutthroat global market.

This contest will end December 23. Good luck!

NelsonDesign
12-22-2008, 07:14 PM
Domino- Let's face it, badging aside, a 9-7x is no more Swedish than that $5.99 desk lamp you bought at IKEA.


How did you know I bought that? jk



<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3503/saabprojectlm7.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

PRODIGY
12-22-2008, 08:11 PM
Domino- Let's face it, badging aside, a 9-7x is no more Swedish than that $5.99 desk lamp you bought at IKEA.


How did you know I bought that? jk



<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3503/saabprojectlm7.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

WOW

WOW

WOW

WOW

Amazing work Nelson! At last, a true classic Saab!

It's amazing how much you are improving! You're only 14? I reckon at this rate, you'll be the new DoMiNo within 2 years! Follow your dream and don't give up like I did! You can do it!

NelsonDesign
12-22-2008, 08:35 PM
WOW

WOW

WOW

WOW

Amazing work Nelson! At last, a true classic Saab!

It's amazing how much you are improving! You're only 14? I reckon at this rate, you'll be the new DoMiNo within 2 years! Follow your dream and don't give up like I did! You can do it!

Wow, thank you, Yeah I'm 14 but I really doubt I will be as good as Dom in 2 years lol, thank you though, I might be at his level in like 4-5 years but I really need more practice.

As for the contest, I really didn't like it all that much and that's why I went fast, and to tell you the truth, as I looked at many Saabs for it, I really don't like the company lol, not even their new concept car.

swizzle
12-22-2008, 10:11 PM
The design has nice proportion, but it's more Talbot-Lago looking to me than SAAB. Beautiful design but for me devoid of SAABness.

ross82694
12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
As for the contest, I really didn't like it all that much and that's why I went fast, and to tell you the truth, as I looked at many Saabs for it, I really don't like the company lol, not even their new concept car.

NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN!!!!
lol jkjk
But I guess you and I will just have to meet in Turin for our Alfas, because it seems to be our only common ground.

NelsonDesign
12-22-2008, 10:17 PM
haha, I knew this would split our friendship, me hating Saab and going against ur fav designer

taskbearer
12-23-2008, 02:14 AM
Wow excellent job there NelsonDesign. I love the design very sleek and simplistic just like the UrSaab. That single taillight is a feature to behold. It would make the car easily identifiable from miles away. much kudos to this effort. I am liking your conceptual presentation. Its little things like this that add up overtime to make a very good designer. Its not about just a simple sketch. This shows that you understand the process.

2o6
12-23-2008, 03:50 AM
I know it's got some perspective errors, and it's not as detailed as it should be, but here it is! I really don't have time to fix it.

Saab C9.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/Nolen.jpg

DoMiNo
12-23-2008, 05:11 AM
Battle SAAB is closed! Commence the voting!

Remember, no points are necessary. Simply post the name of the entrant that you feel best met the criteria. Good luck designers!

ross82694
12-23-2008, 05:19 AM
2o6 has a better example of Saab style, but I prefer Nelson's design, but maybe as a Skoda coupe or Lancia. That's the vibe I'm getting from it. It looks like it would fit into either model lineup.

Good job guys. But next time, leave the Swedes alone! I need to host a class on Swedish design. I see all of these designs in my head, but I can't get them on paper!

MartinEDesign
12-23-2008, 08:35 AM
I think that Nelson shows a nice presentation and all his sketches for this comp and that is a plus from me.
206's car is looking very good too, but there is only one view.
Nelson for me.

Rob
12-23-2008, 09:36 AM
NelsonDesign

swizzle
12-23-2008, 02:29 PM
Hands down winner for me: 206

It looks like a Saab "Prius". Saabs had the same kind of person responding to them back in the day that would call themselves green now and would buy a hybrid. I also like that this is "production" and market feasible. I don't love that it's a hatchback, but that was once Saab.

AXIS
12-23-2008, 03:41 PM
206 gets my vote

PRODIGY
12-24-2008, 05:37 PM
NelsonDesign

Both entries offer a different version of Saab style, and both have that x-factor that modern Saabs have been lacking for so long.

It was very close, but I awarded Nelson my vote, as Saab really ought to play the aircraft heritage card. It'll remind people about who Saab really are, and show them that Saab are 'different' and 'eclectic' rather than just another GM brand like they've become. 2o6's Saab would make an excellent new 9-3, and the fact that it's a hatchback is great. I love both, but absolutely adore Nelsons!

DoMiNo
12-28-2008, 04:36 PM
Come on, guys, more votes!

I'm finding it tough to decide, personally. I love Nelson's sleek, sexy throwback design but I think that 2o6's is the perfect addition to the Saab lineup moving forward.

ajprice
12-28-2008, 06:05 PM
NelsonDesign

It looks like a classic Saab design, and I like the split rear window. 2o6's car looks more like a modern, current Saab design, and (no offence here!) looks like a Prius with a Saab grille, not a Saab.

taskbearer
12-29-2008, 06:47 AM
Come on, guys, more votes!



I think the holiday is slowing everything down. Every section of this forum has been suffering from lack of posts.

and now to the votes, NelsonDesign for me

206s design is very much in line with saabs current design language and I would not mind seeing it in production, but it looks too predictable. Nelsondesign managed to capture a long lost essence of Saab. That is the unpretentious aircraft look of many Saabs until GM took over. His work shows a lot of effort in the design process and the execution is commendable.

Two very good designs, but in a situation like this, I'll go for the more emotional design. Since Saab really needs a coming out party.

DoMiNo
12-29-2008, 08:03 AM
I suppose you're right, taskbearer. Everyone is busy with their holiday obligations. In any case, the voting for BATTLE SAAB is now closed. The final tally of votes is:

NelsonDesign - 6
2o6- 2

Congratulations to NelsonDesign for his first win! Let me know when you've arranged a new challenger!

Again, I know this one moved rather slow in terms of voting, but I'd prefer not to close it with only, say, 6 votes. I am thinking of mandating a minimum vote tally. Hopefully it will pick back up when the holiday craziness dies down. Thanks all, and congrats again Nelson.

VexedandGlorious
12-31-2008, 02:03 AM
aww shoot nevermind, I missed the voting period

DoMiNo
12-31-2008, 06:51 AM
BATTLE 6: NelsonDesign vs. PRODIGY

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BATTLE "HOT ROD"

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/821/32fordsu1.jpg


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Today, hot rods are sleeker, shinier, and faster than their predecessors, but the spirit of creativity and defiance that originally characterized these machines has largely faded. Modern masters like Chip Foose and Boyd Coddington have charted a bold course for the future of the hot rod with low-slung, seductive, iridescent, chrome-laden rolling sculptures that rarely see the road; the bare-bones, speed-über-alles hot rods of yesteryear have given way to cars with more “show” than “go.”<o:p></o:p>
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Which brings us to your difficult but exciting challenge. You must design a 21<sup>st</sup> century hot rod that captures the spirit and purpose of the originals; the modern day equivalent of the ’32 Fords, and ’49 Mercury’s that served as a blank canvas for the creative energies of generations of hot rodders. Bearing in mind that hot-rodding began as a hobby for kids on a budget, design a car that is fast, affordable, easily customized, and stylish. The automaker will be up to you; you may derive your design from an existing model or create an entirely new one. <o:p></o:p>


This contest will end January 3. Good luck!

Kramer
12-31-2008, 07:38 AM
Aw man! I really wanted to battle Nelson. Maybe next time =\

PRODIGY
12-31-2008, 02:27 PM
Introducing the exciting new MINI ROD

Offered with a range of engines all the way from the MINI's 1.6 engine to a 2.5 BMW straight 6.

The car can be driven with the hood off for that true hot-rod look! The car can also be supplied in kit form!

As with any MINI, personalisation is the key, with a wide range of options including scoops, vents, chrome trim and ofcourse wheels!

The MINI ROD has the largest selection of paint finishes available on any car, with pearls, flips and candy colours all available. You can also spec a unique pinstripe for you MINI ROD too!

This is the MINI ROD!!!!

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/scan0006a.jpg

swizzle
12-31-2008, 03:48 PM
The MiniRod is INSANE! It definitely captures the essence of the American hot rod while cribbing the Mini. It captures the essence of the hot rod without trying to be "modern" like the Plymouth Prowler tried to be. Hot Rods by definition are to be old looking because they grew out of guys taking jalopies (the word has a very interesting derivation) and stuffing big motors into them. Often they went hoodless because the bigger engine would not allow the hood to remain in place. Hot rods were of course raced, so reducing weight was paramount. Bye bye fenders.

NelsonDesign
12-31-2008, 09:55 PM
Not too happy with this, but here ye go...

<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6753/hotrodprojectyj8.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

swizzle
01-01-2009, 05:06 AM
This just became the tightest race so far. This is a choice between a 10/10 and a 10/10. I will reserve my vote until asked. Prodigy and Nelson these are WONDERFUL.

NelsonDesign
01-01-2009, 05:21 AM
Thank you swizzle

DoMiNo
01-01-2009, 11:13 PM
Battle Hot Rod is closed! Commence the voting!

Remember, no points are necessary. Simply post the name of the entrant that you feel best met the criteria. Good luck designers!

MartinEDesign
01-01-2009, 11:25 PM
IMO none of the entrants met the criteria that well sorry. I think they aren't fresh enough, they both look too simple and old imo.
I don't think any of them captured the contest theme, of making a new 21st design of a hot rod capturing the essence.

So who wins?
I think Prodigy has just put a mini onto an old hot rod, so it is not working for me.

I think Nelson is also too oldschool but he win in all his views and presentation wise. And also his rear light is looking a bit more futuristic.

Nelson for me.

Sorry for being so harsh

NelsonDesign
01-02-2009, 12:00 AM
Martin, I didn't want to give too much character to this vehicle, as a Hot rod, I had to keep it simple to start, that character is up to the rodder himself, that is why my rod is simple, plus, I wanted to get it in quickly cuz PRODIGY got his in before I woke up lol. Thanks for the vote though

mrfdesign
01-02-2009, 12:24 AM
Unfortunately if your car has no character it wont do very well in a design contest. Nelson ur rod is very generic and thus i must cast my vote to prodigy. The minirod is okay, its nothing wow but its a cool looking rod. I was hoping for more over the top designs because of the nature of the topic. And one more thing regarding these battles, please guys put some speed into the voting and the choosing of opponents otherwise it just wont work!

swizzle
01-02-2009, 12:42 AM
I cast my vote for Prodigy because hot rods--the real ones--pay homage to a real car. The Prowler was a wannabe. Foose loves wannabes too. As good as Nelson's is, it is not linked tangibly to a real car. That was the deciding factor for me in this tight race.

DoMiNo
01-02-2009, 12:45 AM
And one more thing regarding these battles, please guys put some speed into the voting and the choosing of opponents otherwise it just wont work!

mrf, much of that is my fault. Sometimes I can't begin or close a contest immediately because I have a lot of stuff to do and frankly the Design Battleground can't always be my number one priority. Furthermore, I like to allow the entrants the opportunity to get as many votes as possible; it's no fun if only five people vote (I know a lot of people view this thread, what is so hard about taking a few seconds to vote?). So I'm sorry if you don't feel that these contests are moving fast enough but I'd appreciate your patience. We're just here to have fun.

Kramer
01-02-2009, 12:59 AM
No offense to both contestants but they look pretty bland to me. Just because it's a hot rod, don't be afraid to try out different body shapes and styles instead of sticking to the cigar shape that has been in use since the 30's. Again, I don't want to sound like a twat or anything, because I honestly would be hard pressed to come up with anything better.

That said, my vote goes to PRODIGY'S Mini Rod.

mrfdesign
01-02-2009, 12:59 AM
Of course dom. Im not criticizing your work at all. Im just trying to get the other members to get more involved in this thread.

NelsonDesign
01-02-2009, 01:09 AM
Alright guys, I will say this, I don't think my design is the greatest, I am not happy with it but I was somewhat rushed. I don't think many of you read the ONE sentence out of 3 paragraphs that is important out of the contest summary.

"Bearing in mind that hot-rodding began as a hobby for kids on a budget, design a car that is fast, affordable, easily customized, and stylish."

Now, this is for the defense of me AND PRODIGY's designs, but we had to make these things on a budget and make them easy to customize. One of the easiest cars( nowadays) to customize is probably the Scion xB, look how generic that thing is.

Kramer
01-02-2009, 02:38 AM
"Bearing in mind that hot-rodding began as a hobby for kids on a budget, design a car that is fast, affordable, easily customized, and stylish."

Thing is, the xB has character. You don't HAVE to modify it and it still looks unique. How many other tiny box-cars do you know? Same with the Honda Civic, another modern-day hot rod. The Civic looks pretty stylish without mods, but many people like to take it a step further. All I'm saying is, you can do customizable and breakthrough styling.

NelsonDesign
01-02-2009, 02:57 AM
It might have character, but it is very generic, and that is what I was talking about.

taskbearer
01-02-2009, 04:16 AM
I'll have to agree with Kramer on this one. When I saw the topic I expected something like a modern civic, VW golf, or even something like the ford fiesta. With a sample modification. These designs seem like redos of ancient hotrod style and fails to adress the show car only issue. The past hotrods look the way they look because they derived that shape fromt he existing cars. So the same yardstick should have been applied to a modern design.

For the sake of voting I'll have to pick Nelsondesign due to the simplicity of his design. Prodigy's attempt appears to be a basterdized mini. I might have sounded a little harsh, but taking advantage of the full 3 day timeframe would have provided ample time to make something more in line with the contest criteria and striking at the same time.

NelsonDesign
01-02-2009, 04:19 AM
yeah, mine is not the greatest, but I'll tell ya one thing! I would not change mine to look like a Civic or a xB, keep the cool hot rod style!

Rob
01-02-2009, 10:57 AM
This is extremley close, but NelsonDesign's design (lol) just scrapes it for me, 'cos of the slightly more futuristic design.

PRODIGY
01-02-2009, 12:09 PM
I just want to try and leap to our defence with this contest... :lol:

I thought about turning a Civic, Focus..e.t.c into a hotrod, which as i'm fully aware is how it used to be done (taking a Ford popular and making it into something new) and I guess the modern day equivelent to Hot Rods are Rice rockets with their bodykits and paint schemes. The thing is, Hot Rods have now become a certain type of car. Even Rods built today have a retro look that owes much to the 1940's/50's designs. As Swizzle pointed out, the Prowler is what happens when you try and do a modern Rod, and to me the shape of the Prowler still harks back to the old Hot Rods.

So with all that in mind, I decided my Rod had to be retro. Didn't want to do a Civic with a lower roof, fatter tyres e.t.c. Hot Rods are meant to be fun, and I think the MINI brand fits this perfectly. I included the upright window and front spoiler as I thought that without these features it would just look like a stretched mini with a wider track.

I have a few sketches and variations of the Mini Rod, which I will post, but I think I chose the right one.

I know we had 3 days, and mine was done quickly, but that's because I was out over new years eve in Cardiff. New years day I new i'd have a hang-over, hence why I got my entry done quick.

I think Nelsons design is also another great attempt that manages to look more modern than mine. Just the right blend of retro.

Apologies to all of you who think that we have wasted the topic. Perhaps the next design contest could have a similar theme?

Thankyou for all the votes, comments and crit so far! :grintoothless:

swizzle
01-02-2009, 02:33 PM
"Hot rod" is a pretty well defined type of vehicle and it's safe to say that anyone who is in the hot rod enthusiasts' world would laugh out loud at the notion of a modded up Scion Xb or a Civic being called a hot rod. Both designs here are excellent interpretations of hot rods that are faithful to the concept.

PRODIGY
01-02-2009, 04:02 PM
"Hot rod" is a pretty well defined type of vehicle and it's safe to say that anyone who is in the hot rod enthusiasts' world would laugh out loud at the notion of a modded up Scion Xb or a Civic being called a hot rod. Both designs here are excellent interpretations of hot rods that are faithful to the concept.

Thankyou! That's what i'm talking about. Hot Rod is now a unique style, even though it used to be making normal cars into something different. The whole Hot Rod scene is a very retro scene. At all the shows i've been to in England, the 'rodders' even dress up in 1950's dress. The blokes all look like teds and the women look very sexy in their jean hotpants, open shirts, red lipstick e.t.c I especially like the tattoo'd girls. My point being, the scene is almost stuck in a time warp - which is fine as the cars are still stunning, and still turn heads. All the best hot rods i've seen have been clean and simple, that's what I tried to do with mine!


I mentioned this in a reply to mrfdesigns hot rod in his thread.. I actually think the car below is a good example of a modern hot rod...

http://www.thetorquereport.com/scion_hako_concept.jpg

DoMiNo
01-02-2009, 05:43 PM
I deliberately left the topic open to interpretation; there were several different routes the designers could take (e.g. the literal retro-inspired direction or simply a modern incarnation of the hot rod spirit of affordable, infinitely customizable performance cars). I don't necessarily think one route is more correct than another; it's incumbent upon the designers to choose which they feel best represents the criteria of the brief and for the sake of this contest we simply need to judge them in relation to one another.

I was actually happy with the entries. Although I will echo taskbearer in suggesting that designers use their allotted time. It's not a lightning round; it doesn't matter who posts first, so there's no need to race. You have three days for a reason.

Kramer
01-02-2009, 06:45 PM
"Hot rod" is a pretty well defined type of vehicle and it's safe to say that anyone who is in the hot rod enthusiasts' world would laugh out loud at the notion of a modded up Scion Xb or a Civic being called a hot rod.

I just meant to say that these "tuner" cars are the modern-day equivalent. Just like everything else, the age-old craft of tuning cars has evolved over time.

NelsonDesign
01-03-2009, 07:04 PM
Just a few more people need to vote, come on! It's a tie right now (I think) lol

swizzle
01-04-2009, 02:04 AM
I'd be happy if this ended in a tie because this one was truly a wonderful example of excellence versus excellence. If it were a tie then Nelson and Prodigy could let Domino throw them a curve and have a run off. The designs this time were truly evenly matched and it's not a load of bull crap to say that even if one loses that both are winners. Not that it matters to anyone what I think--or should for that matter LOL--but this race was by far the tightest. Moreover the cordiality that Prodigy and Nelson have shown is exemplary.

How about this for a challenge: If the Pontiac Aztec were not a failure, what would it have looked like?

LOL jk

NelsonDesign
01-04-2009, 02:25 AM
I'd be happy if this ended in a tie because this one was truly a wonderful example of excellence versus excellence. If it were a tie then Nelson and Prodigy could let Domino throw them a curve and have a run off. The designs this time were truly evenly matched and it's not a load of bull crap to say that even if one loses that both are winners. Not that it matters to anyone what I think--or should for that matter LOL--but this race was by far the tightest. Moreover the cordiality that Prodigy and Nelson have shown is exemplary.

How about this for a challenge: If the Pontiac Aztec were not a failure, what would it have looked like?

LOL jk

I like your idea of a quick rematch swizzle! But it's not up to me

swizzle
01-04-2009, 02:57 AM
You both are two of my favorite designers and Nelson I appreciate your cordiality even though I voted for Prodigy. It truly was a hard decision. If you're only 14--if I'm correct--you have a major talent that DEMANDS that you develop it.

NelsonDesign
01-04-2009, 04:36 AM
Thank you Swizzle, that's quite a compliment, and yes, my skill will and has to be much further developed, this is my dream.

DoMiNo
01-05-2009, 05:06 AM
The voting for BATTLE HOT ROD has ended. Here are the results:


PRODIGY - 3
NelsonDesign - 3

And we have a tie! Rather than cast the tie-breaking vote, I decided to indulge those who suggested a run-off. I will have a new topic for you two shortly. Other designers, sit tight! We'll return to our regularly scheduled program shortly :grintoothless:

And for the love of god, people, vote! If you want this to work there has to be broader participation! Even those of you just dropping in can vote, it's open to everyone! I can't believe we're only getting half a dozen votes total in these battles. It's a fun experiment but I will close this if everyone loses interest.

DoMiNo
01-05-2009, 05:24 AM
BATTLE 7 (tie-breaker): NelsonDesign vs. PRODIGY

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BATTLE MAYBACH

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<o:p> </o:p>
Your task is to inject some energy into the Maybach brand with an all-new model that will make buyers forget the portly, unloved 57 and 62, lest the marque meet its untimely demise. Rules for the run-off will remain the same; you will have three days to complete your entry.


The contest will close on January 7.<o:p> </o:p>Good luck designers! <o:p></o:p>

PRODIGY
01-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Thankyou to all the votes recieved in the last battle.

I know that i've done another quick post, but that's the way I work. I'm very fast at sketching ideas and then drawing the best ideas in neat. The Maybach i've posted is the 3rd neat one i've drawn today. I intended to try a marker render, so I photocopied my work, and planned to render the photocopy to avoid risking spoiling the original. I chickened out after doing a test render on a random doodle and messing it up, so instead I made the photocopy into the top spec V12.

Anyway, here it is...

The Maybach Platinum.

The new top of the range Maybach is luxury re-defined. Every technology advance that has been invented is included with this car as standard. The car has the ability to drive itself fully, park itself fully. Every seat can rotate and recline fully and feature a self cleaning device. There are 3 levels of the Platinum, all with the same equipment, but the top of the range V12 features a modified headlight arrangement, different wheels, and an extra air intake on the wings. The 2 other levels are: V6, and V8. The V6 and V8 can either be petrol or diesel in various sizes. The price is competitive, but you can only purchase this car by invitation only.

Here is the V6/V8:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/img018s.jpg

And the V12:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/img017s.jpg


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And here's some of the ideas that preceeded this drawing..

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/img016s.jpg

Kramer
01-06-2009, 03:12 AM
Wow, Prodigy! That's crazy awesome. It might be too radical for the conservative rich-people types in the market for a car in this price range.

NelsonDesign
01-06-2009, 03:18 AM
Wow PRODIGY, very nice entry, I really like the V6/V8 sketch

Rob
01-06-2009, 06:00 PM
The best contests involve taking a really messed-up car and making it good. This is great - PRODIGY's design is really striking - front grille reminiscent of the Excellero concept - a nice hint there.

NelsonDesign
01-07-2009, 04:05 AM
Introducing the Maybach Maestę (Which translates to Majesty in Italian.... Hopefully lol)

Oh man! I love this car at my house so much yet when it came through the scanner it doesn't look as good, I truly think this is my best render yet. Hope ya like it!


<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4607/finalmaybachpresfi7.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

VexedandGlorious
01-07-2009, 04:39 AM
Prodigy: love the graphics, esp on the idea sketches
nelson: looks very classy

but Nelson gets my vote.

swizzle
01-07-2009, 05:22 AM
Prodigy: too much like the current cars for my taste.
Nelson: too BMW

my vote: Prodigy

DoMiNo
01-07-2009, 05:24 AM
Battle Maybach is closed.

Please proceed with the voting. To those who have already voted, no need to vote a second time.

Rob
01-07-2009, 05:10 PM
My vote goes to PRODIGY.

MartinEDesign
01-07-2009, 05:55 PM
My vote goes to Nelson again, sorry Prodigy but I am not into your design. And I think Nelson shows a more sofisticated version, with some good developement sketches.

Superfresa
01-08-2009, 05:26 AM
Both are good but my vote is with Prodigy!

Kramer
01-08-2009, 05:47 AM
I vote Nelson. Because his design more accurately (in my eyes) reflects the demographic of people who are going to buy this kind of car. Most rich people don't want outlandish and radical. Unless you're a Bond villain of course ;)

LamboMan
01-08-2009, 08:32 AM
Vote to PRODIGY.......gr8 design man.

Nelson.......good design and even though its classy and reflects the taste of the upper crust....its still IMO is a bit bland......Sorry for being harsh. Sprucing up the headlights or bringing some more surfaces to the side would help. But honestly, i love the rear design and the 2 tone color. Very classy :)

taskbearer
01-08-2009, 06:10 PM
Prodigy, I like your development sketches a lot especially the bottom side profile one. The final design though still looks like a larger S-class with a more outlandish grille. The dart vader grille would appeal more to the younger upcoming rich than the old conservatives. Something that is already true with the current model.

Nelson, your design is very...erm majestic looking in the side profile, but it lost all of its classiness in the 3 quarter view and the BMW-esque front end does not help much either. I think your design has a better chance of giving life to the Maybach brand.

Great entries by both of you and very nice, but my vote goes to Nelson for giving a fresh yet elagant feel. Only the front end needs to be redesigned.

NelsonDesign
01-09-2009, 02:50 AM
I have two things that are funny here, first off, many people are commenting on my front saying it looks worse than the rest of the car, I drew like 2 pages of side views and only ONE front lol, sketching=better design FOR REAL. Secondly, the tie-breaker is, as of now, tied lol.

swizzle
01-09-2009, 04:44 AM
LOL This is to funny. Someone please vote!!!

NelsonDesign
01-09-2009, 04:50 AM
Well if no one else votes or it stays as a tie for awhile, I think me and PRODIGY would be fine if we let two other people go against each other and we will come back for the second tie-breaker?

swizzle
01-09-2009, 01:53 PM
Well if no one else votes or it stays as a tie for awhile, I think me and PRODIGY would be fine if we let two other people go against each other and we will come back for the second tie-breaker?

LOL I'd add in a previous winner of your mutual choice and have it be a three-way contest.

NelsonDesign
01-10-2009, 02:26 AM
Come on guys just take the time to write a name, we have 300 some active members and 6 have voted!

PRODIGY
01-12-2009, 12:55 AM
http://www.gospelcommunications.org/communique/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/514_Bump.jpg

And another bump (or bumps, or indeed lady lumps) to persuade you to vote here!..

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/235828~Kelly-Brook-Posters.jpg

DoMiNo
01-12-2009, 01:15 AM
Guess I'll be the decider :/

This is a truly tough one to decide, because I like elements from both designs but neither of them is perfect. Nelson's has a more elegant and unique body but is rather dull up front, where cars tend to make the greatest impression. Prodigy's, on the other hand, is wild up front but staid toward the rear (indeed, aft of the A-pillar it looks quite like the current S-Class, which I think is the problem with the current models). Perhaps they should combine the two :D

Nevertheless, as a vision for Maybach's future I've got to go with Prodigy, whose design I feel is ultimately riskier and more daring. Maybach is struggling for an identity, which Prodigy's design provides, whereas despite the gorgeous shape, NelsonDesign's car could realistically be the product of a number of manufacturers. Like I said, I admire them both but in the end felt that it was most important to establish a powerful and unmistakable face for the Maybach brand, and I feel that Prodigy was most successful in that regard. Hats off to both of you for two hard-fought battles.

NelsonDesign
01-12-2009, 01:21 AM
Good job PRODIGY and congrats! Cant wait to get this next contest goin'

DoMiNo
01-12-2009, 01:22 AM
The voting for BATTLE MAYBACH has ended. Here are the results:


PRODIGY - 5
NelsonDesign - 4


Kudos again to both designers for their two heated contests, and congratulations to PRODIGY for eking out his first win in the Battleground.

Please settle on a competitor and PM me when you're both ready.

PRODIGY
01-12-2009, 01:22 AM
Good job PRODIGY and congrats! Cant wait to get this next contest goin'

Thanks Nelson! You've been a great designer to battle with!

I'll PM you shortly DoMiNo!

I think Kelly Brooks behind may have worked though lol, may have got more voters! Lmao

Kramer
01-12-2009, 01:32 AM
Pick me, pick meeeeeeee

PRODIGY
01-12-2009, 01:36 AM
Pick me, pick meeeeeeee

I've sent a PM to someone already mate lol. Sorry dude!! If the person I PM'ed aint up for a battle then i'll PM you!!

DoMiNo
01-13-2009, 01:58 AM
BATTLE 8: PRODIGY vs. SV

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BATTLE LOTUS ELISE


Renowned the world over as one of the purest road-legal sports car experiences, the Lotus Elise is nonetheless aging. Not immune to worldwide recession or increasing competition, the fantastic Elise needs a striking new design to rekindle the interest of fickle enthusiasts.

The new Evora has charted a clean, modern, luxurious new course for the brand; will the Elise follow its lead and become a plusher, more livable daily driver? Or will it remain as outrageously styled and unashamedly bare-bones as it is now? Will it "go green" with an innovative new powertrain? Will it lose the passenger seat and become a true trackday monster? You must decide the direction that makes the best sense for this legendary little roadster.

Best of luck challengers, this contest will close on January 15th.

PRODIGY
01-14-2009, 09:26 PM
Haven't had the time to give this one my all... met a girl and have been staying at hers for the last few nights. And right now i'm packing for Spain. On top of this, I found this topic very hard... I think the current Elise is perfect. Not one thing i'd change. So my design sticks to the same sort of formula, but with a bit more edgy styling.

Off to Spain shortly, the next time i'll get to use a PC will be the 20th/21st!

The Elise mk3...

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/scan0001-3.jpg

SV
01-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Nice one prodigy. I agree that the current Elise is a near-flawless design, but you've managed the task of replacing it well. Not particularly fond of the front but the side is really dynamic and attractive. Great job!

I'll need to come up with something quick, school has left me exhausted but I'll get something in!

swizzle
01-15-2009, 02:08 AM
Haven't had the time to give this one my all... met a girl and have been staying at hers for the last few nights. And right now i'm packing for Spain. On top of this, I found this topic very hard... I think the current Elise is perfect. Not one thing i'd change. So my design sticks to the same sort of formula, but with a bit more edgy styling.

Off to Spain shortly, the next time i'll get to use a PC will be the 20th/21st!

The Elise mk3...

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/scan0001-3.jpg

I love how TVR it looks. I'd rather have a TVR anyway. 9/10

SV
01-15-2009, 03:44 AM
Okay, I've got too much homework tonight, but it looks like the load will be lighter tomorrow, so I'll have my entry up then.

SV
01-16-2009, 06:01 AM
Well I've finished my entry but I can't scan it right now, if I can have a one-day extension that'd be great

DoMiNo
01-16-2009, 06:24 AM
No prob SV. Your competitor is out of the country, anyway :P

SV
01-17-2009, 05:54 AM
OK here's my 15-minute sketch. Nothing special, although I did finally figure out how to scan it so that it doesn't show up all dark and blotchy:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7987/elisesketchrj2.jpg

Perspective is flawed too (I really need to work on my wheels)

DoMiNo
01-17-2009, 07:45 AM
BATTLE ELISE is closed. Commence the voting!

Remember, no points are necessary. Simply post the name of the designer whose entry you feel best meets the criteria.

Good luck designers!

swizzle
01-17-2009, 04:08 PM
Prodigy for the TVR nose. :cool:

LamboMan
01-17-2009, 09:06 PM
Prodigy. Great design. I can almost see it on the road in my mind's eye.

SV, your sketch is just great for a 15 minute one but the design isn't really new.

MartinEDesign
01-17-2009, 10:42 PM
hmm.. I am bit unsure here...
Prodigy has gone out of the box with his design, but does it look good? not in my eyes. The fenders with the lights look cool, but the middle just looks werid, and could need to some work.

SV I think you kept it safe here, and it looks like a Lotus Elise. And I think you have made an under exageration of a Lotus Elise. And I think I will stay with the current Lotus.

Therefore I choose Prodigy.

Kramer
01-17-2009, 10:49 PM
PRODIGY

Great design, looks realistic and futuristic.

NelsonDesign
01-18-2009, 02:33 AM
Well. Hmmm... PRODIGYs is TVR like and I like that, yet I think some of the car could have been changed around. SVs is a very nice sketch yet I find it rather generic and I think you could have done better on the design. I am gonna go with PRODIGYs since this is a design contest and I think the design is more forward looking, SVs is a better sketch though, nice job.

PRODIGY

VexedandGlorious
01-18-2009, 02:59 AM
Vote PRODIGY

Steve Neill
01-18-2009, 03:27 AM
SV......:fear:

Rob
01-18-2009, 10:58 AM
PRODIGY gets my vote.

Ascariss
01-19-2009, 05:40 AM
PRODIGY is my vote. SV, still looks good though.

mrfdesign
01-19-2009, 10:43 AM
This is a tough one. Prodigy , yours is very different from the current elise, which i like. However the front treatment isn't to my taste. SV, yours is very generic in terms of how an elise traditionally has been styled which is obviously the safe route and looks good. After scratching my head for a while im going for SV. Sorry prodigy!

DoMiNo
01-19-2009, 04:49 PM
The voting for BATTLE ELISE has ended. Here are the results:


PRODIGY - 8
SV - 2

Thanks to both designers for their work, and thank you as well to everyone who voted.


PRODIGY should be back tomorrow, so I'll wait for him to settle on a competitor before we move on to the next battle. Shouldn't take long.

DoMiNo
01-21-2009, 11:57 PM
BATTLE 9: PRODIGY vs. Kramer

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BATTLE FERRARI MONDIAL


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<o:p> </o:p>
Over the years the car evolved into a much more dependable, powerful, and even attractive little car. By the introduction of the “t” model in 1989, many of its more troublesome glitches had been ironed out, and the Mondial could be considered a true Ferrari, capable of competing head-on with competitors like the Acura NSX, Porsche 911, Chevrolet Corvette, and BMW 850i. Even today, the Mondial possesses the interesting distinction of being Ferrari’s last mid-engined 2+2. Moreover, it was (relatively speaking) one of the more affordable Ferraris, something that can’t be said of any current Ferrari model.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Your task is to revive the Mondial nameplate for a new “entry-level” Ferrari. It must retain the mid-engine 2+2 layout and can be designed as a coupe, convertible, or both. Of course, it would be preferable that [I]this Mondial be both attractive and capable from the get-go, unlike the previous car. ;)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Good luck designers, this contest will close January 24. <o:p></o:p>

swizzle
01-22-2009, 02:54 AM
This is an easy win for both. The Mondial is almost the Ferrari Aztec. Both designs will be wildly better than the namesake.

PRODIGY
01-23-2009, 12:25 PM
Here's my entry. Not 100% happy with it though.

I styled it to fit in with the rest of Ferraris current range.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/mondial.jpg

swizzle
01-23-2009, 02:24 PM
It's definitely better than the California.

Rob
01-23-2009, 05:15 PM
Indeed, it fits in very well with the rest of the Ferrari range, looking like a slightley cheaper California, and actually, better looking.
Looks a bit like a hatchback. Quirky.

Kramer
01-24-2009, 02:25 AM
Entry will be up in a few hours. Sorry for the delay.

-K

Kramer
01-24-2009, 03:55 AM
Definitely not my best..... Looked a lot better in pencil =\
Anyways, deadline's coming up so I guess I have to post this one..

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/Lemment/DSC00882.jpg

DoMiNo
01-24-2009, 08:10 AM
BATTLE MONDIAL is closed. Commence the voting!

Remember, no points necessary. Simply post the name of the entrant whose design you feel best fits the criteria. Good luck designers!

Rob
01-24-2009, 11:01 AM
PRODIGY gets my vote once again.

MartinEDesign
01-24-2009, 12:03 PM
Prodigy gets my vote..

Even though I don't like them both, but I think kramers is way too squared, and doesn't remind me of a ferrari..

Rob
01-24-2009, 01:02 PM
That's exactly what I thought, it should be more Ferrari-like.

swizzle
01-24-2009, 02:57 PM
My vote also goes to Prodigy.

Kramer's entry reminded me of the 370Z, and some vaguely Audi-ness in the nose. My criticism of both entries is that they seemed short and squished. Neither had the appearance of length that Ferraris seem to have. I think both entries are pretty evenly matched for technique, but Prodigy's entry had some Ferrari-ness in it.

Steve Neill
01-28-2009, 05:32 PM
Go Kramer! Sorry Big P, I just wasn't feeling the vents. Wayyy to 90's.

mrfdesign
02-01-2009, 10:24 AM
BUMP!!!! Kramer gets my vote. Please can we keep this thread going guys! Other guys would love to take part but if we neglect the thread this is not gonna work! :(

swizzle
02-01-2009, 03:15 PM
Next round please

LamboMan
02-02-2009, 05:13 AM
Kramer gets my vote.

Kramer
02-02-2009, 06:00 AM
3-3. A tie! BUMP so we can get some more people voting!

VexedandGlorious
02-02-2009, 06:34 AM
i vote prod

DoMiNo
02-03-2009, 07:20 AM
The voting for BATTLE MONDIAL has ended. Here are the results:


PRODIGY - 4
Kramer - 3

Thanks to both designers for their work, and congratulations to PRODIGY for becoming the second designer to sweep three consecutive contests!

Now PRODIGY must choose two new competitors for the next battle. So PROD, decide who you'd like to see competing, and if you are sober, please PM me with their names.

DoMiNo
02-05-2009, 10:28 PM
Sooo PRODIGY wanted to see ElementW and LamboMan battle, but Lambo cannot take part and I haven't heard from ElementW yet. ElementW, if you see this and would like to participate, PM me with the person you'd like to compete with.

If I don't hear from Element soon, I will take volunteers.

Sorry for the delay.

mrfdesign
02-05-2009, 10:44 PM
Im a volunteer :) haha

PRODIGY
02-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Sooo PRODIGY wanted to see ElementW and LamboMan battle, but Lambo cannot take part and I haven't heard from ElementW yet. ElementW, if you see this and would like to participate, PM me with the person you'd like to compete with.

If I don't hear from Element soon, I will take volunteers.

Sorry for the delay.

Im a volunteer :) haha


This thread needs action!! DoMiNo.. would mrfdesign be ok to decide a battler, as the 2 I chose can't do it (well, unless ElementW logs in and replies soon).

What about those designers who haven't posted for a while? Like Knihc, or2007, the_future and Rodger Dodger?

DoMiNo
02-07-2009, 07:48 PM
Very well, then; mrfdesign, choose a competitor, consult with them, and get back to me when you guys are ready to do battle :D

Sorry for the hold up, everyone!

DoMiNo
02-09-2009, 04:41 AM
BATTLE 10: mrfdesign vs. ElementW

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BATTLE WORLD CAR

Scholars and activists seem constantly concerned with providing modern goods and services at affordable prices to developing nations as a means of pulling them out of poverty and into the industrialized age. And no invention screams "on the way up" more than the automobile, a global symbol of mobility, freedom, and progress. Countries with high per capita car ownership are typically the wealthiest and most productive nations in the world.

Bearing in mind the immense practical and symbolic importance of the automobile, design a car for a developing nation that will help to usher them into the modern age. Tata's Nano has captured the imagination of the world and proven that, within reason, an affordable world car can be compelling, stylish, safe, and above all within reach of its intended market. A new "world car" will be rugged and durable, but must include the necessary safety and comfort features expected of a modern vehicle. But most of all, it must be designed with affordability in mind, Interchangeable parts, easily-accessible components, and solid construction will be vital elements of a car intended to bring the developing world up to speed. The manufacturer is up to you, as is the body configuration and all powertrains.

Good luck designers, this contest will close February 11.

ElementW
02-11-2009, 08:45 PM
Here's my world car [ I hope I didn't over do it ], the Toyota Yuse-Mi. Made out of advanced duraplast and most parts are stuck with good ol' Elmers. Kidding, just kidding.:P
This car uses many interchangable parts like the doors, those sills that connect the lights, the lights, the windows, the front and back panels including bumpers, and even the Toyota badges.
The interior is the same way, for example, the dash board is made using two equal pieces.
It would be about: 63in wide, 62in high, and 126in long [ just a guess]. Driver side airbag is standard while passenger and side airbags are optional, as is ABS and even ESC. AC and radio are options and anything electronically controled like the windows. Uses a 3-cylinder engine that miiiight take it to 60 [ going down hill]. Body materials would be similar to the Nano's. In the end it's cheap to run, easy to maintain, and has Toyota reliability.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u257/peugeot_2007/elementW%20Designs/scan0002.jpg

If you think it's ugly, that's ok.

Rob
02-11-2009, 08:59 PM
I love it - top work, looks really neat. :thumbsup: Nice name, too. ;)

mrfdesign
02-11-2009, 09:45 PM
Hey guys. I've had a heavy week at college. Industrial design is lots of work ! ! I wont be able to do an entry today but might hav one up tomoro if im allowed an extra day. If not its fine. Sorry !

DoMiNo
02-11-2009, 11:55 PM
Nice work, Element! Very funky but at the same time practical and well thought out.

If you have no objections, I will allow mrf a little extra time. Hope to see it soon mrf!

ElementW
02-13-2009, 04:36 AM
Thats OK, I don't mind waiting at all. :)

DoMiNo
02-14-2009, 04:46 PM
What news, mrf?

LamboMan
02-14-2009, 11:01 PM
I love it ElementW! Great job! :) Neat design and cool concept!

mrfdesign
02-17-2009, 03:37 PM
I must apologize for such a late entry. I do understand if it doesnt count as its so late. Industrial design has been heavy.
Anyways heres my entry:

Audi A-Zero
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9847/17022009392om6.jpg

The A0 is a fully customizable little Audi that costs the same as a Toyota Yaris T1. The A0 comes in 1.0 TSFI (74kw) and a 1.2 TDI (60kw). The front and rear lights are customizable with various inserts and LED shaped lights available for purchase or swap outs. The inside is even more exciting with removable seat inserts and changeable dash. The A0 has is own identity, even having its own logo, instead of 4 rings it has only one, which forms the shape of a zero hence its name.
The idea of being able to buy an Audi for very little money is somewhat unbelivable and thus would surely be a massive seller and thus a possible iconic world car.

The A0 would sit under the A1 and be smaller too.

LamboMan
02-17-2009, 05:07 PM
Whoa man, great idea! As always the skech n the shading are tops. Very clean yet effective design and great integration of the various elements on the front in true Audi style! The cuteness and meanness are very well balanced. And i would definitely buy this if i had the money.

Hey Dom, can we start voting now?

DoMiNo
02-17-2009, 05:50 PM
BATTLE WORLD CAR is closed. Commence the voting!

Remember, no points necessary. Simply post the name of the entrant whose design you feel best fits the criteria. Good luck designers!

Rob
02-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Tricky one, but I vote mrfdesign - a brilliant, simple, straightforward, yet attractive design.

LamboMan
02-17-2009, 08:00 PM
mrfdesign.

Sorry ElementW. Yours is a gr8 design too dude, but mrf's has that slight edge over your's.

AXIS
02-17-2009, 10:16 PM
mrfdesign gets my vote.

PRODIGY
02-17-2009, 10:46 PM
ElementW gets my vote.

Sorry mrf, but Elements Toyota is more of a world car for me. Your Audi looks awesome, but I can't see it being the next iconic world car. ElementW, yours is a great design, loads of interesting features, and I could easily see it being Toyotas 'Beetle'. Way better looking than the Tata Nano and Dacia Logan.

swizzle
02-18-2009, 01:44 AM
mrfdesign.

This may be the kiss of death, but it's a car I'd allow myself to be seen in.

taskbearer
02-18-2009, 04:21 AM
I'll have to go with ElementW.

His design is very practical and has iconic potential. It does a create a unique style for a world car.
mrf's on the other hand is very well drawn, but it looks more like a fiat 500 competitor which makes it less of a world car. It feels very premium unlike the very practical design from ElementW.

MartinEDesign
02-18-2009, 10:32 AM
I like ElementW's design best, so my vote goes to ElementW

DoMiNo
02-20-2009, 01:41 AM
The voting for BATTLE WORLD CAR has ended. Here are the results:


mrfdesign- 4
ElementW - 3


Congratulations to mrfdesign for the win! Please choose a competitor and notify me when you're both ready to compete.

DoMiNo
02-25-2009, 06:13 AM
BATTLE 11: mrfdesign vs. MartinEDesign

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BATTLE POLICE CAR


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Good luck designers!! This contest will end February 27. <o:p></o:p>

mrfdesign
02-25-2009, 12:59 PM
Heres my cop car :
A new private car manufacturer has joined forces with cadillac to produce the Ninety-Seven. The 97 (for short) is a high performance police vehicle intended for high speed pursuits and high speed dispatches. It features the same V8 from the CTS giving it plenty power and no excuse for police officers to arrive late in an emergency situation. Only 97 Units will be made available to the US government. The 97 is a high tech vehicle featuring advanced police lighting systems around the body work of the car. Its wheels even feature LED emergency lights for added effect. The inside features full Navigation systems and Police officers can use the on board computer system to access criminal files etc. Hope ya like:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1773/25022009402.jpg

swizzle
02-25-2009, 02:20 PM
Lucky police officers!

LamboMan
02-25-2009, 07:22 PM
whoa man thats cooool! I like!
Great concept, nice design and nice sketch as always.
Crit : The front looks a bit tiny compared to the rest of the car, the lights being a bit too small in particular.
Other than that i have no crit. I completely understand how little time you have to submit your entry in these battles so i guess such small things are forgivable.
Nice work! :)

MartinEDesign
02-27-2009, 08:15 PM
http://www.tegnebordet.dk/tegninger/12704/1235761824.jpg

Here is my police car. I started thinking what does the police need to express to the sorroundings? And then I came to the conclusion, that it has to be mean :P So I searched google under "mean looking" and found this reptile:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/236/514557095_58a178e875.jpg?v=0

This is where I got my inspiration from. And I think it fits well for BMW..

DoMiNo
02-28-2009, 12:23 AM
BATTLE POLICE CAR is closed. Commence the voting!

Remember, no points necessary. Simply post the name of the entrant whose design you feel best fits the criteria. Good luck designers!

AXIS
02-28-2009, 12:28 AM
mrfdesign great design, however it kind of falls apart in the front.
my vote goes to MartinEDesign

swizzle
02-28-2009, 02:46 AM
MartinEDesign

NelsonDesign
02-28-2009, 02:52 AM
I think you guys could've done better, they're beautiful sketches, but you guys have had better designs. I think mrf has a better form but the details are all over the place, the opposite is with Martin. I am gonna go with MARTINDESIGN because it has a slightly more aggresive front which I find nice. Good job though Mrf.

As for me, I am itching to get back to these contests SO BADLY, but I need a new computer. Hope to get back soon

LamboMan
02-28-2009, 09:18 AM
I vote for Martin.

@ mrf - Sorry mrf, your design is cool and very functional but it seems like it would work only for high speed chases while Martin's design is more like a crossover/off-roader so it seems better built for the job of a police car since it will have more speed and agility on a variety of terrains which is just what the police need.

@ Martin - Awesome design Martin! I would love it if BMW makes this their new design style. The ones who are being chased by that car will most probably pee in their pants and not even realise it since they will be so damn terrified! :P

Rob
02-28-2009, 10:13 AM
I vote for MartinEDesign - it's a mean-looking, daring car, and indeed fits in well for BMW. Sorry mrf, I really like your design, but it's too close to the Caddilac CTS Coupe for me.

mrfdesign
02-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Bleakness haha :-S

MartinEDesign
02-28-2009, 06:24 PM
Bleakness haha :-S

Haha :P I didn't think so many would vote for me..

Here is another bid of a futuristic police car :P http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/02/09/coffin-cars-best-served-cold-hearted/

DoMiNo
03-03-2009, 04:24 PM
The voting for BATTLE POLICE CAR has ended. Here are the results:


MartinEDesign - 5
mrfdesign - 0


Congratulations to Martin for the win! Please choose a competitor and notify me when you're both ready to compete.

mrfdesign
03-04-2009, 09:25 AM
5-0 . . . :(

swizzle
03-04-2009, 02:11 PM
5-0 . . . :(

Cheer up. There will be a next time and you are obviously talented.

DoMiNo
03-04-2009, 04:16 PM
Yeah mrf, don't sweat it. I am sure you understand that as a designer you are very highly regarded here. We've all had designs that weren't so well-received, that's just part of exploring new design elements and pushing boundaries :) And for the record, it was a neat car; the comments were quite complimentary. There will be plenty of other opportunities.

Unfortunately, MartinEDesign is leaving for Italy and will be unable to participate in the next battle. I've told him that, as a rain check, he will be an automatic participant in the following battle. But for now I need two volunteers! Anyone? I'm kind of itching to have a go at one myself, I'm just not sure I will have the time to sketch something out :/

swizzle
03-05-2009, 02:04 PM
I'd say give MRF the job of deciding the contest and finding the challenger.