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Speedstick
01-02-2005, 10:03 AM
<IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Speedstick-jag1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Speedstick-Jag2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Research Prototype<br>Body architecture: 4-door, 5-seat<br>Overall dimensions (mm): length 4896, width 1770, height 1400<br>Wheelbase, front and rear track: 2865, 1481, 1496<br>Front and rear overhang: 941, 1090<br>Engine position and drive: front longitudinal engine, rear drive<br>Engine: Jaguar Sovereign V12 of 60, 5345 cc/cm3, 295 HP at 5500 rpm<p><A HREF="http://www.italdesign.it" TARGET="_blank">http://www.italdesign.it</A>

whipster
01-02-2005, 12:02 PM
now looks ugly, but well, it was 15 y/ago (too shy for the concept however)! Side view reminds me a lot of Daewoo Leganza.

Speedstick
01-02-2005, 12:48 PM
ItalDesign designed the Leganza too. Go figure. :)

Rugbyplaya91
01-02-2005, 12:59 PM
isn't to classy

bm88
01-03-2005, 04:25 AM
After Jaguar rejected it, I believe that Lexis bought the design for one of its first cars.

syclone
01-03-2005, 04:31 AM
i liek it, but it doesn't feel like a jaguar, even with the styling they had back in the late 1980's.

ajprice
01-03-2005, 04:38 AM
I think the Lexus design was the GS300<br><IMG SRC="http://toyota.images.free.fr/images/japon/lexus/gs300_19.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Whats with all the old concept resurrection anyway?

Rugbyplaya91
01-03-2005, 01:44 PM
lexus did a good thing

Santeno
01-03-2005, 01:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Quattroporte</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After Jaguar rejected it, I believe that Lexis bought the design for one of its first cars.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>No. Toyota hired Ital Design to design the original GS, but that did not look anything like this vehicle. All subsequent GS generations have been designed in-house by Toyota.

Naga Royal Guard
01-03-2005, 02:15 PM
i thaught the second generation GS was also done by italdesign; that car was hot, but kinda fell off after 2 or 3 years

Santeno
01-03-2005, 02:18 PM
No. Italdesign competed for the job, but ultimately Toyota kept it in-house.

taskbearer
01-04-2005, 04:19 AM
The design was adopted by daewoo just as they adopted the matiz after fiat rejected it. <br> <IMG SRC="http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/01813031990003LRG.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/news/aw/dae9904131amg.jpg" BORDER="0">

Reppu
01-04-2005, 07:21 AM
You take out the badge and i could never recognize it as a Jaguar, not even at the time it went out.

drugmirko
01-04-2005, 07:59 AM
<br>it doesn't look ugly even now. it still has it's carracter and to me, it kind of looks better than that reshaped Mondeo they are selling now.<p>but it remndes me bit mor on Lancia Kappa than that Lexsus:<p><IMG SRC="http://lancia.free.fr/ancgamme/kappa/kpb3.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>source lancia.free.fr

taskbearer
01-05-2005, 12:15 AM
This Jaguar concept suffers from the fact that it doesn;t look like a jaguar, the case is similar to the foure Blackjag concept.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autointell.com/supplier/engineering_supplier/fuore-design/blackjag_1-800.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Interesting looking car but remove the jaguar badge it could be anything else

MrMGMan
01-10-2005, 10:45 AM
Another Daewoo link for the Kensington - the headlights look suspiciously similar to those used on the Daewoo Cielo/Nexia, Daewoo's clone of the MkII Opel/Vauxhall Astra.

iamalittlepepper
01-12-2005, 03:09 PM
I don't think that was a Jaguar initiated design.. basically it was done by a 3rd party who asked Jaguar whether it is okay to slap their name on it..<p>The same company also did a Subaru that looked simliar to that too.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>taskbearer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This Jaguar concept suffers from the fact that it doesn;t look like a jaguar, the case is similar to the foure Blackjag concept.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autointell.com/supplier/engineering_supplier/fuore-design/blackjag_1-800.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Interesting looking car but remove the jaguar badge it could be anything else </TD></TR></TABLE>

pcread
01-12-2005, 03:35 PM
In fact, the badge is the only Jaguarness about it.

Ascariss
01-12-2005, 05:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>No. Toyota hired Ital Design to design the original GS, but that did not look anything like this vehicle. All subsequent GS generations have been designed in-house by Toyota.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have the article someplace in CAR about this, will dig it up tonight.

HondaTech
01-23-2005, 03:16 AM
Lexus SHOULD hire ItalDesign again to draw their next LS sedan.

ajprice
01-23-2005, 11:43 AM
Interesting that they made a similar looking Subaru, when you think of how Subaru's will look soon with their new front end style:<br><IMG SRC="http://www.southcoastsubaru.com/newcust/subaru-b11s-front-300-197.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Compare the lights and grille on this to the black Jag concept posted above...

Chicho
01-25-2005, 07:09 AM
Taskbearer youre right Daewoo bought that design <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pirate2.gif" BORDER="0">

Flagship
01-27-2005, 06:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HondaTech</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lexus SHOULD hire ItalDesign again to draw their next LS sedan.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is hard to believe but the LS does very well. Lexus sells more LS's than the Mercedes S class, BMW 7 series, Audi A8,(In America)

Cozz
01-29-2005, 08:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>This is hard to believe but the LS does very well. Lexus sells more LS's than the Mercedes S class, BMW 7 series, Audi A8,(In America)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What does your post have anything to do with this thread? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-29-2005, 08:45 PM
somebody wasnt thinking and posted the idea that Lexus should hire italdesign ( of all companies ) to design their cars and it must be deat with

Flagship
01-30-2005, 02:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What does your post have anything to do with this thread? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sorry master Cozz the force has miss guided me <p>Honda Tech implied that LS needs help design wise, I stated that according to the sales the LS does not need help. <br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Flagship GT at 1:57 PM 1/30/2005</i>

HondaTech
01-31-2005, 05:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">somebody wasnt thinking and posted the idea that Lexus should hire italdesign ( of all companies ) to design their cars and it must be deat with</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, I was thinking, Naga. That's why I think Toyota should hire ItalDesign to design Lexus sedans, especially the LS. <p>This idea did not originally came from me either, it came from Toyota itself. That's why there's the look of the first generation Lexus GS and the stunning Toyota Volta concept. They are already getting help from ItalDesign, I just think it would be nice to apply that to the LS as well, so we can have a beautiful yet unique looking Lexus flagship sedan.<p>It's those who think it's okay for every generation of LS to look like an S-class a decade ago aren't thinking.

HondaTech
01-31-2005, 05:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Honda Tech implied that LS needs help design wise, I stated that according to the sales the LS does not need help. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, the LS is outselling the S-class in the US, but for what reason? Styling? Reliability? Value? Build quality? You seems to be saying that people buy LS because they liked it's style better than the S-class, but you'll need to back it up. Otherwise it's just an empty statement.<p>If I'm in the market of a topend luxury sedan, I'd probably choose the LS over the S-class as well. It's like 20 grand cheaper AND more reliable, so why not? But I don't think it looks better than the S-class. It looks like an old S-class.