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Ascariss
12-21-2004, 01:59 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05detroit/images/azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Nissan AZEAL Concept Stays Close to Home in Detroit Debu</B><p>Nissans AZEAL Coupe, the first concept car created at the new Nissan Design America, Inc. studios in Farmington Hills, Mich., is set to debut at the 2005 North American International Auto Show in Detroit in early January. The AZEAL Coupe Concept is a fresh interpretation of the pocket rocket  an affordable, high performance entry-level coupe with an emphasis on personality and aggressive styling. <p>Nissan will also highlight its line-up of innovative trucks and SUVs built off the advanced F-Alpha platform: the Titan, Armada, Pathfinder, Frontier and Xterra. With every model either all-new or completely redesigned within the past 18 months, Nissan has the newest lineup of trucks and SUVs of any major automaker.<p>Nissan<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 2:15 PM 12/29/2004</i>

VarianceJ30
12-21-2004, 02:49 PM
This is a great and good-looking concept. This may (hopefully) hint at a return to an affordable sport coupe in Nissan's lineup (250SX/Silvia). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
12-23-2004, 08:22 AM
Nice looking car concept...I like it!<p>Here is another article, along with a few more pics - <A HREF="http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=33546&pg=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto123.com/en/info...&pg=1</A>

siko
12-23-2004, 08:31 AM
Ascariss, I posted this already @ japanesecarfans.com in the Nissan pit (<A HREF="http://forums.japanesecarfans.com/zerothread?id=12444" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.japanesecarfans....12444</A>).<p>Should I post next time in this section instead (to avoid duplicates)?

Santeno
12-23-2004, 01:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>siko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ascariss, I posted this already @ japanesecarfans.com in the Nissan pit (<A HREF="http://forums.japanesecarfans.com/zerothread?id=12444" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.japanesecarfans....12444</A>).<p>Should I post next time in this section instead (to avoid duplicates)?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yes please do. Not at the expense of the other site, but please post here also.

Achilles
12-24-2004, 01:02 PM
if its rear wheel drive it will be a smash hit. if its another fwd econobox it will be forgotten in a matter of months

VarianceJ30
12-24-2004, 07:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Achilles</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if its rear wheel drive it will be a smash hit. if its another fwd econobox it will be forgotten in a matter of months</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Or Nissan could surprise us all and make it AWD.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

iamalittlepepper
12-26-2004, 05:18 AM
I think concepts are different from productions (they can claim whatever they promise but delivering is another) ... so I don't think it really matters too much whether it is FWD or RWD.. has Nissan has any RWD platform for small cars handy? I am guessing the only source is in Japan.<p>I know Renaults are mosly FWD..

metallic
12-26-2004, 05:33 AM
What has renault to do with this concept? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> It's made by Nissan Design America, Inc. studios in Farmington Hills, Mich <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

iamalittlepepper
12-26-2004, 06:17 AM
It is called part sharing.. it is more likely the car will come to fruitation as a concept form if there is enough engineering backing..<p>An example is Jaguar's roadster debacle... that never got very far did it? Engineering and business logic is more or less the same whether it is Nissan, Ford or GM

metallic
12-26-2004, 07:39 AM
What has renault to offer to nissan? 5 speed manual gear box? 1.5 dCi? Nissan 350Z is completely nissan's work. And so will be this car (if they will produce it). Renault will only affect on nissan europe, but not on nissan us and japan. Well, i think. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

iamalittlepepper
12-26-2004, 07:47 AM
Well Renault's forte is in small cars.. Also Nissan has been showing off Renault rebadged cars in Canadian shows as prototypes <A HREF="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/040112-1.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/040112-1.htm</A><p>This is pure speculation at this point.. for small cars Nissan doesn't havea small platform to compete with Civic, Focus etc..in North America all they have is Sentra. You would think they would use their knowhow from their Renault to help them..<p>Platform investments are extremely expensive.<p>350Z is pure Nissan work.. however it has spawned a lot of differnet cars to make the investment worthwhile (G35, FX etc). I just can't see Nissan doing a one off platform for small cars for one model.. it just doesn't make financial sense.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>metallic</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What has renault to offer to nissan? 5 speed manual gear box? 1.5 dCi? Nissan 350Z is completely nissan's work. And so will be this car (if they will produce it). Renault will only affect on nissan europe, but not on nissan us and japan. Well, i think. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by iamalittlepepper at 12:09 PM 12/26/2004</i>

ajprice
12-26-2004, 08:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>metallic</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nissan 350Z is completely nissan's work</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Erm, the 350Z's engine is the 3.5ltr V6 from the Renault Vel Satis, <A HREF="http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/meet_renault/01/" TARGET="_blank">clicky</A> and read the last sentence.

metallic
12-26-2004, 09:27 AM
C'mon man... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmileo.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> Everybody knows, that renaults engine from vel satis (and espace as well) is nissan's VQ.

ajprice
12-26-2004, 10:51 AM
OK, its a Nissan engine then, fair enough. But its still shared parts between Renault and Nissan, and if I remember rightly, the Vel Satis came out before the 350z. So, not knowing anything about the engine being a Nissan VQ, just that the 2 cars engines are basically the same except for tuning, its understandable to think the (newer) 350Z uses the (older) Vel Satis engine.

metallic
12-26-2004, 11:02 AM
Anyway, VQ's nissans and renault have nothing to do with Z.

knihc2008
12-29-2004, 12:38 PM
the VQ engine first came out on the maxima in the 90's. so it's nissans engine.<p>anyway, just looking at the proportions of the azeal, you can already tell its gonna be some sort of RSX / eclipse / tC competitor because of its FWD proportions. the greenhouse runs too far forward for it to be a RWD.

Top Secret
12-29-2004, 06:43 PM
Dammit...why can't they make it flippin RWD, bung in a turbo four and let it be the spiritual successor to the Silvia/240SX/200SX? I damn hope it's gonna turn out like that.

Top Secret
01-01-2005, 06:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rugbyplaya91</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">caddy face scion booty</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not really, I think it looks very similar to the 350Z and the rest of the lineup such as the G35.

Charger
01-07-2005, 08:22 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/516/559post-2-1098902565.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source:superhonda

kevinb120
01-07-2005, 09:00 PM
Is it me or does it look just like the original Eclipse design studys/concepts? The last pic looks like a prius coupe....

Naga Royal Guard
01-09-2005, 02:12 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/24%20AZEAL.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
01-09-2005, 02:22 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/concept/2006/800px/2005_05_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: nissan<p>eeeeeeewww <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
01-09-2005, 02:39 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_02_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_03_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_05_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_06_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_07_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_13_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_18_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/nissan/azeal/images/2005_23_azeal.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoweek

Ascariss
01-09-2005, 02:41 PM
Anyone care to turn it into a production version?

knihc2008
01-09-2005, 03:22 PM
nope. with the horrendous sketch to metal trend i'm seeing (first the acura concept, now this) i'm sorta glad i didn't buy that ticket to see the detroit show. this thing is hideous.

The Water Is Poison
01-09-2005, 03:53 PM
as soon as bigger pics emerge, i'll chop it.

Krypton
01-09-2005, 04:52 PM
i kind of like it but looks a lot like the tc, overall this autoshow seems to have the ugliest concepts

Player4
01-09-2005, 04:59 PM
Rear view screams Scion tC!!! and the car is too high!! Gosh i guess 05 was not such a good year for concepts!!

Top Secret
01-09-2005, 06:01 PM
Ugh! Even as a devout Nissan fan, I must say this thing looks absolutely hideous! The worst thing about this car is that grille. Wow, this is on par with the LF-A as the worst looking concepts of the show.

nismo
01-09-2005, 07:21 PM
wow... I guess I'm the only one that likes it or atleast I think it would look good once they change it from concept too production and tweak certain things. Just imagine it with a different grille(no little cubes) and different tail lights and it would look way better. Also I'm 19 so maybe people my age will like it. GenY or whatever.

The Water Is Poison
01-09-2005, 07:30 PM
This thing would look 10 times better if the front was slopeda bit more and the bottom of the windowline actually matched the hoodline.

iamalittlepepper
01-09-2005, 08:32 PM
I guess the 350Z headlights is now part of the "nissan signature".. I think they do a pretty good job producing it on a small car.. I thought the car is designed in detroit right?

Top Secret
01-09-2005, 08:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. Also I'm 19 so maybe people my age will like it. GenY or whatever.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm 14 and I personally hate the concept, but I'll wait and see how the prodcution version looks.

Tudor
01-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Ugly. Not Aztek ugly, but pretty ugly.

nismospeed
01-10-2005, 01:30 PM
I think it looks great. If this is going to be the rumored Sentra coupe then it will be a winner. The difference between the hideous Lexus LF-A is that it should cost upwards of $70K and the Azeal will be under $20K. Looking at the design under the pretense of an entry-level car makes it much more appealing-- frankly there aren't many very good-looking affordable, insurable cars for people in that market.

Naga Royal Guard
01-10-2005, 01:43 PM
and why are you comparing this to a possible production 10/8 cyl car?

nismospeed
01-10-2005, 02:51 PM
Both are concept cars that are being called the ugliest in Detroit. I was pointing out that for an entry level sporty coupe the Azeal should apeal to many people in that segment-- more for being an innovative affordable car.

iamalittlepepper
01-10-2005, 10:14 PM
Because both are only "concepts" I am pretty both in production form would look anywhere like these concepts. I think it is fair to compare them. How many concepts can actually run at full potential anyways? like the ME, AF c8 etc.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and why are you comparing this to a possible production 10/8 cyl car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

taskbearer
01-11-2005, 12:39 AM
The cars proportions are startling, the mix of mid-engine profile with front heavy FF propotions is tasteless. Nissan should work with some of the cus for the next sentra, but not as a coupe. The TC is way more appealing than this. <p>One more thing, the interior is too shaby looking for a concept, finish looks like it was rushed.

myredhotcar
01-11-2005, 07:35 AM
Actually the interior is stunning. Hopefully the vent & grill motif are production ready. Perhaps the rear needs some work--maybe more edgy to match the front rather than sloping outward. Love some of those shut lines--esp. the vertical separating cabin from front@A pillar. I see it more as a modern day CRX, or a better update of the original Opel tigra. For 18k, a very good proposition indeed.

Rugbyplaya91
01-11-2005, 04:52 PM
Inside resimbles scion out side resimbles scion... it is a scion?!! or a nissan :o

syclone
01-13-2005, 07:12 PM
i actually think they did a good job of integrating design features inside and out.<p>ps - i know most people seem to loathe it, but this is my second favorite at detroit, behind the hurricane

VarianceJ30
01-14-2005, 02:08 AM
Scion, Scion, Scion....<p>Geez people, it looks more like a shrunken Z than a Scion. And I think it looks good. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

ajprice
01-14-2005, 04:21 PM
Underneath that car somewhere there is a good looking car trying to get out. Yes its a bit mini-me 350Z, but a mini 350Z could have looked a lot better detailed than this thing. The grille is bad, the wheels and arches are too small in proportion to the car (for a coupe), and there's other issues there like the different shades of grey for the roof, body and sills. Definitily choppable to something decent though. Contest 30, maybe???

ToronadoGT
01-29-2005, 01:59 PM
This car, I beleve with some fine tuning to get the bugs out, could become a great entry level sports car for Nissan. For some reason, it brings to mind the other entry-level sports cars Nissan has made before, like the Pulsar and 240SX/Silvia, and the current top-drawer sports car, the 350Z. Personally, I would like to see this car come out in the next year or two, to compliment the Sentra and 350Z, plus I would like to see some design elements of the Azeal on the Sentra.

nismo
01-30-2005, 12:43 PM
same here. I really think this car would look good in production form (different grill, etc). It would be nice to have another bang for your buck like the Scion tC. It would probably be faster considering this would be based on the next Sentra which is lighter than the tC's camry platform and also the Azeal would probably use the 2.5 175hp engine as its base which has more hp and tq than the tC... it would be a nice all around sports car. Nissan just needs to build it...

Velocitas
01-30-2005, 12:45 PM
<br>I am not sure what this car was meant to preview. It was sitting on an FF chassis, and Nissan already has a car in that size segment, the Sentra/200SX. A 240SX/Silvia replacement makes no sense, market-wise. So I guess this is a concept Sentra?<br>

Naga Royal Guard
01-30-2005, 04:27 PM
what a scion ripoff, and i dont like scion

JBlair
01-30-2005, 04:46 PM
Sentra has 4 doors, this has two. I wonder if this could preview a coupe version of the Sentra line?

hokman
02-02-2005, 07:45 PM
After saving nissan, carlos is probably trying to screw up nissan again, because he's leaving for renault. Uniting so many cars on one or two platforms isn't gonna work for too long it prevents so much flexibility. Ok, the world is hungry for coupes, because so many died during the past decade (corolla coupe, silvia, fiat coupe, FTO, rx7, calibra, supra...etc). So making a new and one is going to monopolize the market currently owned by the celica and the uninspiring integra. So nissan makes this azeal, but what's wrong is the market position, it looks cheap and tiny like a pulsar, but having a massive 2.5L engine. So what is it? No many in the world would buy a coupe this tiny and with such a big engine. The best answer to go in to the coupe market is reviving the silvia. All over the world, people sighed at the death of this cheap and powerful rear drive car, and have since yearned for a new one to arrive. Now there is none on the market, it's nissan's chance to grab it. The MX5 is also cheap and rear drive but it's convertible character doesn't suit everyone, and it's considered too small and powerless. But carlos' idea of uniting 5 cars on one platform won't allow this, even if they force the FM platform for silvia, it's going to look ungainly with no overhang or something, it's also too heavy. It needs a light and agile chassis with front strut rear multilink setup like 3er. And Nissan is gonna use the earned money to develop that, or lose this chance for unlimited wealth and prestige. But everything is in the hands of carlos.

nismo
02-03-2005, 10:05 PM
The 240SX/Silvia didn't sell enough before to be profitable and it wouldn't sell enough now. I doubt this car is smaller than the Scion tC which is bigger than the celica and RSX/Integra inside. Car companies don't have money to produce specific cars for small/niche crowds. RWD platforms are too expensive too produce a car that would appeal to the "Silvia" crowd... thats why most tuners are getting them now-used and low priced. When the 240SX was a new vehicle it was not in the price range of people who liked it. If they used the 350Z platform it would end up being like $24k for a 4cyl. and the mass main market would not pay that.. I think if Nissan makes the Azeal the right size and price it'll do good. I dunno, maybe Nissan can offer it in AWD for the people who don't like FWD <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Top Secret
02-04-2005, 03:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hokman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After saving nissan, carlos is probably trying to screw up nissan again, because he's leaving for renault. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's just a stupid comment. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The main and critical factor in why so many of these Japanese cult cars is because they did not pass the stricter emission laws in both the US and Europe. It's not because of CEO's trying to 'screw up [insert car company here]'. But regardless, car companies are beginning to revive the coupe market once again - the new GT-R, Supra and NSX is to come in the next few years. <p>And as hard it is to hear it, car companies often produce cars to generate profits, not because they want to excite people. They research the market, see if there is enough demand and provide. That's basically why Camry's are selling so well. If Nissan in this instance, see the tC selling well, why not let the consumers have another choice in the AZEAL?<p>But about the Silvia thing, I do agree with you. It would be awesome if they brought a new Silvia - the 350Z chassis won't do, because it is wack, for those purposes. What would be the best idea would be to update the S15 platform and bring it out in more attractive clothes with a turbo four.<p>