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DoMiNo
07-20-2008, 06:12 PM
In keeping with what has become the tradition of offering multiple topics (so as to ensure we're choosing something a lot of people will enjoy), here are three options, in varying levels of specificity, that came to mind for the next contest:

1. "Green" Car Design Contest - Self-explanatory, really. With all the buzz about alternative fuel sources and powertrains, sustainable/renewable materials, low CO2 emissions, and high fuel economy, this would be a timely and wildly diverse contest tackling environmental issues and high oil prices.

2. Lamborghini Design Contest - Like the Porsche contest in the sense that it is restricted only by the marque. Design what you think should be the next Lamborghini: be it an SUV, sedan, small roadster, front-engined, rear-engined, whatever! This would be a chance to design something really extreme, I'd love to see what everyone came up with.

3. Alfa Romeo 169 Design Contest - What happened to Alfa's 166 successor? After years of speculative renderings and even spy photos of a possible prototype or concept car, news of Alfa's flagship sedan has dropped off. What will it look like?


Place your vote and as soon as we have a decent amount of votes and a decisive consensus we'll get it going! Thanks all!!

SV
07-20-2008, 07:03 PM
i voted green car. it's more open-ended than i like, but i've been into green cars lately...an alfa 169 contest would be interesting and fun too, but lambo...eh feels too much like been there done that.

PRODIGY
07-20-2008, 07:10 PM
I voted for the Alfa. I've done too many green cars lately (all will be revealed at the British Motor Show) and I would like to create an Alfa that uses the best retro bits from the 8C combined with the beautiful Brera and its more squared off face.

mrfdesign
07-20-2008, 10:08 PM
ah ! ALFA PLEASE!!! Im an alfa nut!!

NelsonDesign
07-20-2008, 10:28 PM
Same here Mrf, that is my favorite Italian company

swizzle
07-21-2008, 12:02 AM
I voted for Lamborghini because I would rather have aspiration than than the sky is falling. Green cars are going to happen no matter what. What will be important is that we not lose the passion for cars that Lamborghinis inspire. That said, there is no reason the Lambo couldn't be green. It will be interesting to see if the talented and intrepid designers here attempt to do a green Lamborghini that is powerful, naked sexuality, and ecofriendly all in one.

HURRY!

I can't wait to see the entries. LOL

taskbearer
07-21-2008, 12:25 AM
I voted for the alfa, cause the green car contest is too wide open. Some constraint is necessary for the type of contest we had with the porsche icon. The alfa would be more exiting as we speak would raise some much needed hotness in the field of green-car-wanna-be-mania that does not seem to go away.

And by the way thanks to all the voters for the Porsche contest. that was some serious competition. Much closer than I have ever seen before and congrats to Domino for pulling away with the victory.

emotive
07-21-2008, 02:49 AM
Voted for Alfa! :D Can't wait!

swizzle
07-21-2008, 03:02 PM
Alfa works for me too. I would like to see something that is modern and captivating like the Brera face rather than hopelessly retro like the 8C face that seems to be making its way onto more Alfas. Alfas have always reminded me more of Armani than Versace.

PRODIGY
07-21-2008, 03:05 PM
Alfa works for me too. I would like to see something that is modern and captivating like the Brera face rather than hopelessly retro like the 8C face that seems to be making its way onto more Alfas. Alfas have always reminded me more of Armani than Versace.

.... I would like to create an Alfa that uses the best retro bits from the 8C combined with the beautiful Brera and its more squared off face.

Looks like you will get your wish Swizzle.. if the Alfa contest wins, then mine will be less retro and bring a new Alfa face to the table.

DoMiNo
07-21-2008, 04:58 PM
Well I'd say we have a handy majority. Alfa it is :)

I'll have the contest up shortly.

Good luck, all!

DoMiNo
07-22-2008, 12:19 AM
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4153/alfabannerxr9.jpg

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Your task is to fill the void in Alfa’s lineup with a car that will continue the brand’s styling renaissance while competing toe-to-toe with the best from <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region>, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Britain</st1:country-region></st1:place>, and beyond. A seductively-styled performance saloon that will serve as Alfa’s four-door halo vehicle, and which will restore credibility to the brand in the uppermost echelons of the luxury market. The 166 successor (presumably dubbed “169”, although other names are welcome) must be unmistakably Alfa, but whether that means reviving elegant details of Alfa’s past or taking the brand in an exciting new direction is entirely up to you.
<o:p> </o:p>
The importance of the 169 cannot be overstated; its success is vital to Alfa Romeo’s global strategy, including the brand’s re-entry into the North American market and continued growth in expanding luxury markets like <st1:country-region w:st="on">Russia</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>. What will Alfa’s new flagship look like?
<o:p> </o:p>
***This contest will close August 4, 2008***
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Good luck designers!!!

emotive
07-22-2008, 09:36 AM
hehehe ima excited!!! lets see if i can slip an entry in before the exam preparations begin... oh how i dread exams, and the term only started today!

the1
07-22-2008, 11:01 AM
These supposedly leaked sketches are the benchmark IMO. Any contender should beat those. :)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3121/1214915972qc7.jpg

BryanRW
07-22-2008, 12:56 PM
I wont be doing a blueprint design this time. I'll be doing a hand drawn design for once :lol:

PRODIGY
07-22-2008, 02:23 PM
I wont be doing a blueprint design this time. I'll be doing a hand drawn design for once :lol:

YAY!! lol, I am looking forward to seeing a hand drawn entry from you.


I'm struggling with this contest, didn't realise how hard it was to draw a beautifull flowing design. I've drawn 2 potential entries so far, but neither has that beauty factor that Alfas should have.

I will post these 2 169's in a separate thread as I do like them, and continue to keep on trying to draw a beautifull 169.

BryanRW
07-22-2008, 02:39 PM
I finished my design..Shall enter it later today. Im realy proud of my drawing:cool:

VexedandGlorious
07-22-2008, 03:44 PM
These supposedly leaked sketches are the benchmark IMO. Any contender should beat those. :)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3121/1214915972qc7.jpg

u sure those are leaked sketches and not a college students work?

http://cardesignnews.com/site/designers/portfolios/display/store5/item124213/
student work...

swizzle
07-22-2008, 06:22 PM
u sure those are leaked sketches and not a college students work?

http://cardesignnews.com/site/designers/portfolios/display/store5/item124213/
student work...

I find it hideous. The nose is garish, the side is wannabe Jaguar, and the rear lights remind me of Camaros and Corvettes stuck on an Accord coupe/Altima coupe tail. Ick.

PRODIGY
07-22-2008, 06:24 PM
I think i've cracked it. Mine will be up later when i'm back from work and have access to a scanner. Quite proud of this one, think you may approve Swizzle!

...2200hrs GMT!!

BryanRW
07-22-2008, 06:53 PM
HELP....Image Shack Wont Work..and i cant upload my image any volenteers that i can send my image to so they can upload it for me and give me the code.

BryanRW
07-22-2008, 08:16 PM
Heres My Entry And its NOT A blueprint design for once :lol:
It has looks inspired by the 8C & The New MiTo.

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8356/alfaromeo169xy9.th.jpg (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alfaromeo169xy9.jpg)

swizzle
07-22-2008, 09:28 PM
The nose actually does not remind me of the 8C so much as the basic face of Alfa Romeo from the early sixties. The nose is at once classic and restrained without being a caricature. The tail reminds me of the 164 (I believe that's the correct model) that I thought was a gorgeous car. What I like most about the sketch is the sensibility of it. I can imagine something like that being produced and sitting on the showroom floor. It's not some unobtainable fantasy. Good job.

BryanRW
07-22-2008, 10:11 PM
The nose actually does not remind me of the 8C so much as the basic face of Alfa Romeo from the early sixties. The nose is at once classic and restrained without being a caricature. The tail reminds me of the 164 (I believe that's the correct model) that I thought was a gorgeous car. What I like most about the sketch is the sensibility of it. I can imagine something like that being produced and sitting on the showroom floor. It's not some unobtainable fantasy. Good job.


Thanks Not A single negative comment in that....Im Very Happy:grintoothless::grintoothless::):)

PRODIGY
07-22-2008, 10:22 PM
http://www.classicalfa.co.uk/shop/images/alfa%20milano%20badge%20bg001.jpg
(New classic Alfa Romeo badge, as used on Alfa Romeos of old)

Ladies and Gentleman

The Alfa 1.69

No words neccessary, just look!

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/146950cd.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/adythesaxoman/car%20drawings/fa9700cc.jpg

PRODIGY
07-22-2008, 10:25 PM
Audi_R8: Great to see a hand drawn entry from you.

I like the design. That line running along the sides brings back memories of the Alfa 75. The front end is cool, manages to look different enough from the 8c and Mi.To.

Well done!

swizzle
07-22-2008, 11:43 PM
Thanks Not A single negative comment in that....Im Very Happy:grintoothless::grintoothless::):)

You will note that I tend to say very positive things to our designers because there are some truly talented people here. I will never say "Your drawing sucks."

swizzle
07-22-2008, 11:51 PM
Prodigy:

I like how you evoked the Montreal which was a very stylish Alfa. I'm not sure about the eyebrows. The hood is muscular and flowing. I realize that this is more in the vein of a 4 door coupe hence the rear end. Taking it that way, the rear is especially attractive and probably where you most hit the bull's eye.

I like how you and R8 are as different as night and day. They could be variants of the same platform. R8's rendering is more serious/elegant (which Alfa has done a lot of) and yours is more emotional (which Alfa has also done a lot of too).

Good job

NelsonDesign
07-23-2008, 12:41 AM
Well... Here's mine, one problem I find in my sketching is that when I try to make it look better (Darkening up those lines) it seems to loose some of its sketchiness which I think is very nice. Also, my scanner makes it look much more grainy than it is in real life. Please Comment...

Introducing the Alfa Romeo 169!

Kramer
07-23-2008, 03:06 AM
My first entry on this forum.. pencil first, then done in pen. C&C please =)

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/Lemment/DSC00366.jpg

Steve Neill
07-23-2008, 05:36 AM
My Submission.

The 2010 Alfa Romeo 169 GTA provides performance an attitude akin to it's 8C brethren. If put into production, it would make a healthy 300HP, and utilize a fortified AWD chassis. Time will only tell where the Alfa Romeo brand heads, but the new 169 GTA is sure to go down into history as a legend.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/stealth01/169GTA.jpg

Steve.

knihc2008
07-23-2008, 06:04 AM
Oh bloody hell I started working on my entry so I could enter for once after not being on for a while... now I realize my design looks exactly the same as what the1 posted. Oh well.

ClunBB9
07-23-2008, 07:50 AM
Well, looks like I'm going to get this a go after a sketching hiatus.
I think my car has had enough attention for now.
Time to get my hands dirty with sketching again! :D

PRODIGY
07-23-2008, 08:14 AM
Welcome Kramer!

Good to see a new face in these contests.

Your design is cool. love the 8c inspired rear. Not so keen on the front, I reckon it could do with a more prominent grille. IMO your front end is the same sort of theme as the 156. Overall though, very impressive.

Steve: Awesome design and executed brilliantly. love the kink in the side window line. This is very much a sports sedan. Also like how you've developed the Brera face rather than go with the retro 8c themes.

Nelsondesign: Wow, this is ceratinly futuristic. Front end reminds me of the Vauxhall VXlightning concept, and the sides have a Jaguar feel about them.

C'mom Clun and Knihc, get them entries in!!

emotive
07-23-2008, 09:31 AM
wow! so many entries already??? also, steve, the technique and design is great, but the wheels are a bit off and it looks like a coupe! look at the 166 lol! maybe extend it a bit and then repost it?? then we definitely have a winner!!!

http://www.netcarshow.com/alfa_romeo/2004-166/

swizzle
07-23-2008, 01:48 PM
My Submission.
The 2010 Alfa Romeo 169 GTA provides performance an attitude akin to it's 8C brethren. If put into production, it would make a healthy 300HP, and utilize a fortified AWD chassis. Time will only tell where the Alfa Romeo brand heads, but the new 169 GTA is sure to go down into history as a legend.
Steve.

This is stunning. I like how it reminds me of the Brera's face a little. Is the 169--if and when it shows up--to be a 4 door or 4 door and coupe?

Steve Neill
07-23-2008, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the comment guys.

It's actually:

A 4 door coupe hatchback with a low roofline.

Just so everyone knows. :)

Kramer
07-23-2008, 04:35 PM
@ Steve: Designed to compete with the Benz CLS, perhaps?

BryanRW
07-23-2008, 05:25 PM
Since All the comments of my design have been good so far do you think i should stick with hand drawn designs from now on?

VexedandGlorious
07-24-2008, 12:59 AM
My Alfa 169:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/dgnr/AlfaRomeo.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/dgnr/alfainterior037.jpg

Steve Neill
07-24-2008, 04:51 AM
Beautiful design Vexed. Try to neaten up your lines a bit more.

However I have one gripe:

This looks FAR to much like the Alfa SUV concept from a few years back.

SV
07-24-2008, 06:18 AM
wow vexed thats a vast improvement over your previous work, you've obviously been practicing! (unlike me =/)

swizzle
07-24-2008, 02:14 PM
Vexed. Very nice. This is the first time that I've seen something in the 8C/Mito style face that I have thought to be truly attractive. I especially like the flow of the interior.

dsgnr
07-24-2008, 07:04 PM
Alfa Romeo 169 Barchetta

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5668/60141590qv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

AXIS
07-25-2008, 07:45 AM
2010 Alfa Romeo 169



Riding on a modifed Quattroporte platform and powered by a 4.2-liter, 390-hp V8.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/hellospaceboy/169.jpg

SV
07-25-2008, 11:30 PM
axis that's amazing!!! your rendering technique is as good as ever but i'm absolutely astounded by how improved your perspective is with this design. before your sketches were always far too tall and narrow and just looked "off" but now, apart from a slightly too-visible grille, it looks perfect! the design is very attractive too, great work.

dsnr, i like yours alot too, it's a simple but effective design.

mrfdesign
07-27-2008, 12:23 AM
Hey guys, heres my entry. Quite a quick sketch so not great perspective wise(lol), marker rendered. Tried to blend the MiTO styling with 159,Brera,spider styling cues. Power comes from 3.2 V6 and 2.4 JTDM and a tuned version of the 3.2 V6 for the GTA.
Great entries so far guys well done!

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/102/dsc00720nu3.jpg

dsgnr
07-27-2008, 01:06 AM
The headlights and the small air intakes beneath it definitively have something exciting on it.
However, the grille should stand far more straightly, vertically.

Technique wise, I'd set out the wheels more to make the car broad, aggressive and "sticking on the road". In addition, the a-pillar is too stretched and long, and the rear door is far too small for a 169.

Rendering wise, it's a pity you used just one red marker. The DLO section needs much more definition.The pastel sections should be more graduated.

However, really cool front all in all, the front is really easily recoginzable as the one of a 166 successor. keep'em coming brother.

swizzle
07-27-2008, 02:59 PM
Actually I like the angle of the grille on mfrdesign's proposal. Making it more vertical would disrupt the flow of his design and make it far less appealing. As it is now, the hood/grille is harmonious with the flow/angle of the fenders. A more vertical grille on mfrdesign's proposal would make it more Edsel looking. I think mfrdesign's proposal is rather realistic in that it is more production-ready oriented. It's definitely among the ones I prefer.

mrfdesign
07-28-2008, 04:02 PM
Thanks swizzle, ya i went for a more production ready drawing.

Here are my comments for the designs so far (from latest to first):
BTW im a huge alfa romeo fan so im going to be quite honest with your entries, so please dont take them personally.

AXIS -
Interesting take on an alfa, one issue i dont like is that the surface lines and kinks dont seem to link up around the car which prevents the car from flowing harmoniously. Excellent render and good entry

dsgnr -
Hmmm, i think the idea of a 4 door Alfa convertible is not really to my taste. Your design also looks unfinished, the front seems to lack headlights? I think a more finished drawing would've emphasized your idea alot more. As for now it's far too simple. Decent technique though

Vexed -
Looks almost like a crossover with the high ride height and bold wheel arches. All in all not very Alfa-like. I mean the drawing is really cool and your technique is very good but for me you havent captured the Alfa Romeo soul in this entry. The interior is pretty cool, quite simplistic yet effective.

Steve Neill -
Good to have you back after quite an absence. I can see your japanese influence coming through strong here, the car has an almost Honda Integra feel about it. Well drawn, very neat. The headlamps are a nice take on the current Brare,spider and 159, would've like to have seen a more MiTo inspired front though. As someone commented before it seems a bit small to be a 169, more like a Brera :-) . Excellent effort nonethelss.

Kramer -
First of all welcome to the CSS design contests. Your entry has harked back to the older 156's, the shape of the headlights are very kinky much like the original 156's. The rear seems a bit flat though. Would've preffered a more "in your face grille".

NelsonDesign -
Your take on the 169 is a bit too simple for my tastes, Not much going on there. Some front air intakes under the lights would've made your car far more appealing because right nw it's very bland. Try be more creative with your designs. Very neat drawing though.

Prodigy -
ah the man comes up with yet another surprise :-) , Nice idea to bring back some of the classic Alfa's styling. From the a-pillar back it seems quite Fisker Karma-like ;-) . Im not so much of a fan of the rear however, looks like an owl lol. Cool entry man

Audi_R8 -
Not a bad drawing, just a bit all over the show in terms of proportion and perspective but that corrects itself with lots of practice and determination. I think your design is quite generic as in it looks a bit too MiTo and 8C like to distinguish itself as its own model - the 169. I think a more rounded ass would suit the car better :-) . Nice to see a drawing from you !

DoMiNo
07-28-2008, 04:48 PM
Wow we already have so many entries!! This is turning out to be another heated competition! Keep 'em coming, guys; hopefully I'll be able to comment in more detail on each design.

I finally finished mine. I was amazed at how long it took to settle on a shape I felt good about; it reminded me of the XJ contest, when I went through sketch after sketch without being able to convey what I wanted. Maybe it's a sedan thing. In any event, I finally sketched one I felt really good about, and here it is:

Alfa Romeo makes its dramatic return to the large-car segment today with the unveiling of its seductive new flagship, the 169 saloon. The rakish four-door is more than its moniker implies; aside from replacing the void in Alfa’s lineup left by the departure of the slow-selling 166, the 169 catapults the marque to the very top of the luxury heap. Sexy Italian styling, coupe-like proportions, an enviable array of powertrains, and inspiring performance make the 169 the car to beat in this highly-competitive segment. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
The striking new styling is both a nod to Alfa Romeo’s storied past and a bold look ahead to its future. The car’s most prominent feature is its classically long hood and shark-like, upright face. The trademark Alfa grille is flanked by imposing recessed headlamps that echo the “hooded eyes” of the 159 and Brera but with a sleeker, more unique design. Along the side, a prominent character line trails off the front fender, dipping towards the rear of the car before bumping up and over the rear wheel arch, in a sensuous homage to Pre-War Alfas as well as the company’s incredible 8C Competizione sports car. A beautifully sculpted rocker panel sports a polished steel exit vent, which curls elegantly up into the forward door cut line. The doors themselves are pillar-less and open in a clamshell configuration. The greenhouse is sweeping and low, endowing the 169 with an athletic stance and the elegance of a GT, not unlike its close relative, the Maserati Quattroporte. The result of these elements is a majestic and aggressive sports sedan that would seem as at home in a fine art gallery as on the road. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
But make no mistake, the road is where the 169 belongs. The car is motivated by the buyer’s choice of a silky new normally aspirated 3.2L V6 producing 350hp, a 3.2L turbodiesel producing 240 hp and a pavement-wrenching 500 Nm of torque, or the mighty 4.7L 430hp V8 transplanted from the Maserati GranTurismo S. The sole transmission for the V6 and turbodiesel models is a new seven-speed automatic transmission (which will make its way across the rest of Alfa Romeo’s lineup); the V8 model shares its new “MC-Shift” sequential gearbox with its Maserati cousin. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
The svelte new 169 promises to put Alfa Romeo back in the hunt as both a luxury manufacturer and a purveyor of soul-stirring Italian alternatives to the more mundane European rivals. V6 models will hit European markets in Q1 2009, with V8 and TDi models following in the summer. Pricing TBD, but expect a fully-loaded V8 169 to slot just below the Maserati Quattroporte.




shown below in Rosso Barolo
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/598/alfa169ji2.jpg

GTA model (4.7L V8) shown in Nero Vesuvio
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6149/alfa169gtacu3.jpg
<o:p></o:p>

dsgnr
07-28-2008, 04:59 PM
dsgnr -
Your design also looks unfinished


sketch? ;)

btw: don't you see the xenon stripe(s)?

PRODIGY
07-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Just a few more comments..

Vexed: A little bit too retro for my tastes, and the sides are similar to some of your previous drawings, but the design flows and works well

dsgnr: Like the technique, but I can't imagine this as being a proper big Alfa. If I ignore the fact that it's a convertable and imagine how it would look like with a roof, then it still doesn't represent how i'd imagine the new big Alfa to look. Like mrfdesign pointed out, it looks unfinished, and no I can't see the xenon stripe(s) i'm affraid. On the positive side, the lines are clean and simple, and the grille is spot on, it's just the headlights (or lack of them in my eyes) that let the front down. It just hasn't got that drop dead gorgeous look that I expect modern Alfas to have. Sorry about all this crit. I'm not criticising your talent (you have bags more than me), just not feeling this design.

AXIS: Definately one of your best technique wise, and the design is rather good. like how the headlights are a modern twist on the retro themes used on the 8c and Mi.To.

mrfdesign: You've nailed what I was trying to do = a cross between the Brera face and the recent retro offerings from Alfa. It works very well on your design. I'd like to see a pic of how you imagine the back to be. The only crit really is that the sides seem a little lifeless somehow, which is odd as they are very Brera like.

DoMiNo: You have designed the Alfa with the best Owl features yet! I love the owl look on Alfas (As mrfdesign pointed out with my rear end - this is why my rear end is owl like and my 'eyebrows' are meant to give the front end the owl treatment). The sides are very arty and I love the little vents below the front doors. Very interesting feature. The only crit is that the sides could be something other than an Alfa - that crease and rear arch treatment remind me of something (think it was a Buick concept).

Well done everyone, some cracking entries coming in!

In response to mrfdesigns comments on my design....

I applaud you.. you spotted the Fisker link. Whilst drawing my Alfa, I had pictures of a Fisker Karma, a Maserati quattroporte and various old Alfa sports cars on my desktop. I wanted my entry to be a beautiful flowing design and was finding this hard. So I took elements of cars that I consider beautiful. The sides and stance of my entry are influenced greatly by the Fisker, and the front inflenced by the old Alfas. The back was influenced by a soft toy owl that I have - I love owls and love how Alfas have an owl like face, I thought i'd apply this to the rear aswell as the front!!

NelsonDesign
07-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Owl face eh? I always though of that face as more of a cat

2o6
07-28-2008, 09:48 PM
I figure I better at least try........

Kramer
07-28-2008, 11:12 PM
Redone version of my Alfa 169 Design.. after looking at several concept sketches that really influenced this new one.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/Lemment/DSC00386.jpg

DoMiNo
07-28-2008, 11:35 PM
DoMiNo: You have designed the Alfa with the best Owl features yet! I love the owl look on Alfas (As mrfdesign pointed out with my rear end - this is why my rear end is owl like and my 'eyebrows' are meant to give the front end the owl treatment). The sides are very arty and I love the little vents below the front doors. Very interesting feature. The only crit is that the sides could be something other than an Alfa - that crease and rear arch treatment remind me of something (think it was a Buick concept).


Thanks for the comments, PRODIGY. I'm glad to hear the face succeeded; it took a lot of tweaking. My original plan was to echo the round lamps of the Brera/159 but I tried the LED look and found it to be much more aggressive, so I stuck with it. I understand what you mean about the side, as well. I was in a tough spot because having examined Alfa's current models, I found that the body sides of the mainstream models lacked character (as I believe you pointed out yourself in an earlier post). So I tried to do several things with one design element: (1) I primarily wanted to break up the space between the rocker and the DLO -- you can tell that the shoulder line of the car actually rises toward the rear and I didn't want the car to look too pudgy. (2) I wanted to create some sort of visual link to both elegant, pontoon-fendered pre-War Alfas as well as the swoopy 8C, in hopes that the halo effect of that model might translate to the 169. And (3), I wanted to do something different from the aforementioned mainstream models with their bland, characterless sides. I knew in executing that character line the way I did, it would call to mind other cars, but I decided to take the risk :) Thanks again.

Whew, now here come the comments! :P Great entries so far, as in the Porsche contest, I am surprised by the diverse points of view.

Audi_R8 - as swizzle noted, I love how you've blended the 8C face with a modernized interpetation of the 164 (a car that, I will agree, was great-looking). Yes, there is room to improve your drawing style--namely the need for longer, sweeping, more natural strokes--but despite that you've managed to convey your ideas very well. Nice work,

PRODIGY - yes, the Fisker Karma influences are obvious :) In a good way, of course, as the Karma is a sexy four-door coupe and this is no different. I understand your love for what you've dubbed the "owl face" and for the most part I think it works, but with the partially covered headlamps and the eyebrow-like signals placed above, I think it has a kind of sleepy, almost melancholy look. The rear is great, love it.

NelsonDesign - I think mrfdesign pointed out that your design has some nice details, but is overall a little too simple; there aren't a lot of Alfa Romeo cues evident here. I can't speculate about your design process, but i would recommend having some sort of "mental blueprint" of how you want your car to end up before you even put your pencil to paper. Do some really quick doodles to establish some neat design elements (headlamps, grille/fascia, wheels, etc) and then incorporate them into a shape that accentuates them. No offense, obviously, but--grille aside--this could come from any brand. It's a nicely proportioned car overall, though; I think if you spent a little more time incorporating some cool details you'd be amazed at how much more finished a product it will yield. Keep it up man :)

Kramer - A very nice concept; like some others you've managed quite successfully to incorporate some 8C elements into a more traditional sedan. The face is safe, but nice; the grille could be larger, for balance, and the headlamps perhaps a bit farther apart to avoid a cross-eyed look. The rear is great; I'm actually quite amazed to see how well the 8C rear looks on a large 4-door. The stance is nice, too, it looks hunkered down and athletic. The sides could be more defined and the roof a little lower, but overall very nice car.

Steve Neill - very lovely sketch, as usual. The view is cool but the perspective is off at the far front fender. The front is great looking, but maybe the least interesting portion because it looks very similar to current Alfa models (which is in itself a big change from the 166, so I can't fault you there). The side is muscular and well-sculpted, I like the bumped-up DLO at the rear fender. A very sporty design, but in terms of size appears more like a 159 than a 169.

VexedandGlorious - I love the rakish, 4-door 8C look of your design. As someone mentioned, there does appear to some JDT influence in the side (it's your aesthetic "point of view," and it actually works quite well here). Cool interior view, it's a nice touch that shows you've considered this car inside and out. As a sidenote, I always like your sketching style, though I'd love to see a more finished drawing from you sometime.

dsgnr - I'll echo the sentiments of previous commenters in saying that, while a 4-door cabriolet would be a great niche model, I'd like to see your take on a traditional sedan. I for one love the front; the way the grille appears open at the bottom, the narrow, aggressive headlights, very nice touches. Your experience is obvious in your beautifully simple sketching and rendering style.

AXIS - beautiful render, but that goes without saying, in your case. Your perspective looks better here, too. The car is nice; a true four-door sports car. Love the Mi.To rear lights and the simultaneously angular and curvaceous look of the overall design. There's something a tad cab-forward in the layout, IMO, and the rear of the DLO recalls the Aeon, but I suppose there's nothing wrong with that. Great job.

Did I miss anyone? Great work everyone, keep it coming!!

DoMiNo
07-28-2008, 11:37 PM
Kramer, your revised 169 looks good but I'm afraid I can only accept your first entry.

NelsonDesign
07-28-2008, 11:46 PM
Thanks for the comments, PRODIGY. I'm glad to hear the face succeeded; it took a lot of tweaking. My original plan was to echo the round lamps of the Brera/159 but I tried the LED look and found it to be much more aggressive, so I stuck with it. I understand what you mean about the side, as well. I was in a tough spot because having examined Alfa's current models, I found that the body sides of the mainstream models lacked character (as I believe you pointed out yourself in an earlier post). So I tried to do several things with one design element: (1) I primarily wanted to break up the space between the rocker and the DLO -- you can tell that the shoulder line of the car actually rises toward the rear and I didn't want the car to look too pudgy. (2) I wanted to create some sort of visual link to both elegant, pontoon-fendered pre-War Alfas as well as the swoopy 8C, in hopes that the halo effect of that model might translate to the 169. And (3), I wanted to do something different from the aforementioned mainstream models with their bland, characterless sides. I knew in executing that character line the way I did, it would call to mind other cars, but I decided to take the risk :) Thanks again.

Whew, now here come the comments! :P Great entries so far, as in the Porsche contest, I am surprised by the diverse points of view.

Audi_R8 - as swizzle noted, I love how you've blended the 8C face with a modernized interpetation of the 164 (a car that, I will agree, was great-looking). Yes, there is room to improve your drawing style--namely the need for
longer, sweeping, more natural strokes--but despite that you've managed to convey your ideas very well. Nice work,

PRODIGY - yes, the Fisker Karma influences are obvious :) In a good way, of course, as the Karma is a sexy four-door coupe and this is no different. I understand your love for what you've dubbed the "owl face" and for the most part I think it works, but with the partially covered headlamps and the eyebrow-like signals placed above, I think it has a kind of sleepy, almost melancholy look. The rear is great, love it.

NelsonDesign - I think mrfdesign pointed out that your design has some nice details, but is overall a little too simple; there aren't a lot of Alfa Romeo cues evident here. I can't speculate about your design process, but i would recommend having some sort of "mental blueprint" of how you want your car to end up before you even put your pencil to paper. Do some really quick doodles to establish some neat design elements (headlamps, grille/fascia, wheels, etc) and then incorporate them into a shape that accentuates them. No offense, obviously, but--grille aside--this could come from any brand. It's a nicely proportioned car overall, though; I think if you spent a little more time incorporating some cool details you'd be amazed at how much more finished a product it will yield. Keep it up man :)

Kramer - A very nice concept; like some others you've managed quite successfully to incorporate some 8C elements into a more traditional sedan. The face is safe, but nice; the grille could be larger, for balance, and the headlamps perhaps a bit farther apart to avoid a cross-eyed look. The rear is great; I'm actually quite amazed to see how well the 8C rear looks on a large 4-door. The stance is nice, too, it looks hunkered down and athletic. The sides could be more defined and the roof a little lower, but overall very nice car.

Steve Neill - very lovely sketch, as usual. The view is cool but the perspective is off at the far front fender. The front is great looking, but maybe the least interesting portion because it looks very similar to current Alfa models (which is in itself a big change from the 166, so I can't fault you there). The side is muscular and well-sculpted, I like the bumped-up DLO at the rear fender. A very sporty design, but in terms of size appears more like a 159 than a 169.

VexedandGlorious - I love the rakish, 4-door 8C look of your design. As someone mentioned, there does appear to some JDT influence in the side (it's your aesthetic "point of view," and it actually works quite well here). Cool interior view, it's a nice touch that shows you've considered this car inside and out. As a sidenote, I always like your sketching style, though I'd love to see a more finished drawing from you sometime.

dsgnr - I'll echo the sentiments of previous commenters in saying that, while a 4-door cabriolet would be a great niche model, I'd like to see your take on a traditional sedan. I for one love the front; the way the grille appears open at the bottom, the narrow, aggressive headlights, very nice touches. Your experience is obvious in your beautifully simple sketching and rendering style.

AXIS - beautiful render, but that goes without saying, in your case. Your perspective looks better here, too. The car is nice; a true four-door sports car. Love the Mi.To rear lights and the simultaneously angular and curvaceous look of the overall design. There's something a tad cab-forward in the layout, IMO, and the rear of the DLO recalls the Aeon, but I suppose there's nothing wrong with that. Great job.

Did I miss anyone? Great work everyone, keep it coming!!

Thanks Domino, I took no offense by this comment. Actually, your advice I am already starting now and HAS made my cars look more realistic. At the time I drew this alfa, I was not looking at other cars and made it look bland. Actually though, that one steel plate in front of the door says Alfa, hopefully that tells you as well lol.

dsgnr
07-29-2008, 12:06 AM
the narrow, aggressive headlights,

HA!!! :D






Thank you Domino and PRODIGY for your detailed and constructive comments. *thumbs up*

VexedandGlorious
07-29-2008, 01:08 AM
thanks for the crits, yeah the sides are very "JDT" just a result of being uninspired and stressed out I guess.
I'll keep practicing to be more steady with my drawing and deliver something more finished next contest.

thanks again..

Kramer
07-29-2008, 01:46 AM
First entry? Alright, my fault for updating it, i'll keep that in mind for future contests

DoMiNo
07-29-2008, 02:57 AM
Thanks for understanding. I know this is your first contest so you shouldn't be expected to know all the rules. It's just not fair to other contenders to revise entries.

To be honest, I prefer the first entry anyway :) Feel free to post the revised version in the design section for crits if you'd like.

mrfdesign
07-29-2008, 07:12 AM
Yup u forgot to comment on mine DoMiNo

DoMiNo
07-29-2008, 07:50 AM
Oh, oops, sorry mrf!!

Your design is a nice synthesis of several "modern classic" Alfa design elements (and for a self-professed Alfa fan, that's not something entirely unexpected). The headlights/intakes flanking the grille look good; it doesn't necessarily call to mind a particular car, but is instead a pleasant combination of the two prevailing faces on Alfas these days (i.e. 159 or Mi.To). I agree that the grille looks a little odd slanted instead of upright, but that is a matter of personal preference. The hidden rear door handle is a nice touch that adds to the coupe-ish GT look. But the side is rather bland, the rear a tad droopy, and the A-pillar is raked much too far back, thus making the side glass very small; that's probably the reason one of the commenters above said the car looked too small for a 169. I understand with quicker drawings it is hard to get all of the technical details spot-on (I've been there :P ), so those quibbles aside it's a very nice design and one of the most production feasible.

Again, sorry for skipping yours!!

driven by design
07-30-2008, 01:33 AM
Holy freakin' jumping shizballs, Dom ... that entry of yours is remarkable. I'm toweling up drool from my desk. I'll admit to being critical of some of your recent entries but damn if you didn't hit the nail square on the head with this one. You've successfully proven that it is in fact possible to make an even better looking Alfa than the 8C. Wow. :shock2:

swizzle
07-30-2008, 02:05 PM
You've successfully proven that it is in fact possible to make an even better looking Alfa than the 8C.

And there are those that would say accomplishing that is a rather easy task.

DoMiNo
07-31-2008, 09:19 PM
Holy freakin' jumping shizballs, Dom ... that entry of yours is remarkable. I'm toweling up drool from my desk. I'll admit to being critical of some of your recent entries but damn if you didn't hit the nail square on the head with this one. You've successfully proven that it is in fact possible to make an even better looking Alfa than the 8C. Wow. :shock2:

Thanks dbd! I appreciate the compliment!

ellash
08-01-2008, 09:59 PM
Hi everybody,
This is my first entry on this forum.
Biscione is the name of the human child-bearing serpent which stands on Milan's Visconti family's coat of arms and subsequently became part of Alfa Romeo's logo.

dsgnr
08-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Hi everybody,
This is my first entry on this forum.
Biscione is the name of the human child-bearing serpent which stands on Milan's Visconti family's coat of arms and subsequently became part of Alfa Romeo's logo.

Oh cool, another swiss CSS member :) Never thought here'd be more car designers :D

swizzle
08-02-2008, 01:03 AM
Hi everybody,
This is my first entry on this forum.
Biscione is the name of the human child-bearing serpent which stands on Milan's Visconti family's coat of arms and subsequently became part of Alfa Romeo's logo.

I definitely like the face.

LamboMan
08-02-2008, 09:29 AM
Man Domino ,your entry is a MASTERPIECE. I just cannot find words good enough to praise it ! All i can say is that you outdo yourself everytime, and by leaps and bounds! Amazing man, just amazing.:thumbsup:

knihc2008
08-02-2008, 11:01 AM
Clearly some AMAZING entries this time around. How can a group of self-proclaimed designers pass up the chance to design the next Alfa Romeo? I know I couldn't, even after a few months of absence. I've been busy with med school apps and school, as well as picking up surfing and working on my other passion, music.

Anyway, I thought a nice Alfa Romeo would help get me back into the swing of things. This is a nice, simple flowing design. No real styling gimmicks or anything here; just pure shape and body contour doing the talking. I spent a lot of time with body curving, like the way the rear window fills out the C pillar, and how it slowly dips down and back up with the beltline. Or the way the A pillar flows into the V-shape hood, slightly dipping into the Alfa shield. Or how sharp or sensous to shape the rear haunch. I think all of these things together make for a pretty simple yet elegant and timeless design.

Notes:
-There is a LOT of 8C. My original design looked exactly like the red car on the first page, lots of 149. Scrapped it completely.
-The front air dam used to be bigger (as you can see in the sketch). I would imagine it being bigger for GTA versions. I made it look purposefully small for normal every day use.
-The perspective on the R side of the car is kind of off, I think? Any thoughts?
-Yes, it's on a road between hills.

I hope you guys enjoy it, and it's good to be back.

Sketch version (always looks cooler)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5371/img101jy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Final:
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5345/169as9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Any suggestions are useful!

dsgnr
08-02-2008, 11:26 AM
Technique:

-
-don't make 1000 lines but one or two for a wheel
-same for the whole body
-the whole left lays too low.
-rendering needs to be more crispy and needs to have more contrast

+
-nice overall perspective
-nicely "zoomed-in" wheels

swizzle
08-02-2008, 02:44 PM
I think all of these things together make for a pretty simple yet elegant and timeless design.

That it is. To me the nose hints more of the Brera than the 8C because of the pointy headlights maybe and for me that's a good thing because I think the Brera is a tour de force and the 8C is derivative for me. I also like how you made it a coupesedan without making it an XF clone. Your design would do for Alfa what the current designs have done for Maserati. Your entry is elegantly simple and timeless as you say.

BryanRW
08-02-2008, 03:32 PM
Is anyone able to render my entry for me....I would love to see what it looks like rendered.

DoMiNo
08-02-2008, 05:04 PM
Man Domino ,your entry is a MASTERPIECE. I just cannot find words good enough to praise it ! All i can say is that you outdo yourself everytime, and by leaps and bounds! Amazing man, just amazing.:thumbsup:

Thanks so much for the praise, LamboMan, it means a lot! I hope you're planning a contest entry?


knihc - Welcome back! :) I think I speak for everyone when I say we've missed your participation in these contests. The car is beautifully simple, as it seems you intended; the sides and rear fender treatment are the showcase here more than the front, and they were very well executed. Perspective issues are minor... I see what you're saying about the far side (it looks a bit stretched) but what bugs me are the wheels; from this perspective the front wheel would be larger than the rear, your perfect proportions can't shine through with such a large rear wheel. I also think it would look more planted if you'd added a shadow. Still, those are technique issues, in terms of design it is great.

street_dreamer
08-02-2008, 09:01 PM
I'm a complete amateur, and am bollocks, but i love Alfas, and thought i'd do a quick 3minute sketch just to see if you folks like it...
There's some amazing ones here. Domino's is beautiful, along with Knihc's - which is more realistically production-ready - and i also love the 169 barchetta, but if there were details it should be awesome.
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swizzle
08-02-2008, 11:06 PM
There's something oddly appealing about the blocky look and I say that positively because your 169 has a decided presence.

On a tangent, I just got an idea. What if the shape of the Alfa grille was relegated to a feature on each fender that housed the lighting and do away completely with the obligatory trademark grille? Definitely a thought outside the box and maybe it would make the result more baroque. Maybe there is a reason why I am not a designer.:eek:

SV
08-03-2008, 12:23 AM
damn, knihc, the way the peak of the front fender bisects the headlights on your design is identical to what i'm planning for my entry (street_dreamer's design's face is also similar to mine)! argh...nice sketch though.

PRODIGY
08-03-2008, 09:53 AM
damn, knihc, the way the peak of the front fender bisects the headlights on your design is identical to what i'm planning for my entry (street_dreamer's design's face is also similar to mine)! argh...nice sketch though.

That is the problem with designing a car that we pretty much can guess what it will look like lol.

I had the same problem, I have 2 other finished entries that I abandoned - i'll post them soon.

Knihc - Gorgeous design, simple and effective.

street_dreamer - Like the face, not sure about the blocky body. Cool drawing though.


______

This is gonna be a hard one to vote. So many different takes on the 169, and pretty much all of them have the right look. It's just gonna come down to personal favourites I guess.

street_dreamer
08-03-2008, 12:37 PM
There's something oddly appealing about the blocky look and I say that positively because your 169 has a decided presence.


street_dreamer - Like the face, not sure about the blocky body. Cool drawing though.
Cheers guys, I wanted a slightly blocky look, makes it stand out a bit., but it ended up more blocky than i hoped.

damn, knihc, the way the peak of the front fender bisects the headlights on your design is identical to what i'm planning for my entry (street_dreamer's design's face is also similar to mine)! argh...nice sketch though.I look forward to seein it SV :D. Hopefully better executed than mine, and a whole lot neater. :D

2o6
08-03-2008, 09:59 PM
Not much to look at, but I hope you like it. I don't like it, but I had to enter something..........


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/Stacee.jpg

street_dreamer
08-03-2008, 11:17 PM
I quite like it. I'd just say maybe lower the greenhouse a little bit. Other than that, i think it's really quite good, something about it appeals to me immediately, dunno what though

swizzle
08-04-2008, 12:03 AM
Not much to look at, but I hope you like it. I don't like it, but I had to enter something..........


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/Stacee.jpg

I'm feeling a TVR nose and a Jaguar side. I don't like it, but I am oddly compelled to keep looking at it. Your entry really digs at getting a new look and it's not quite right but you are on to something. This is NOT a slam at your work so much as a "keep on working" on refining it. You've hit on something that if resolved could be genius. It's so easy to regurgitate heritage and you have stepped out of that trap convincingly. Bravo! What if this were a much smaller companion to the 169? I'm not well versed in Alfa's naming structure. Your design feels Jetta sized to me. I'm definitely intrigued. I love the swoop of the greenhouse.

2o6
08-04-2008, 12:39 AM
I'm not too familar with Alfa Romeos........how big is the 169 supposed to be?

Ascariss
08-04-2008, 01:14 AM
the 169 is a 5 series competitor.

Flyinmonkey
08-04-2008, 08:05 AM
ima try and post mine up withing the hour

Flyinmonkey
08-04-2008, 09:46 AM
Heres my entry. A bit rushed, would of hoped i gave myself more time to create an entry of greater quality.:woot2:http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Dj_designs/ALFA_ENTRY-4.jpg

LamboMan
08-04-2008, 11:48 AM
Yes domino i've got my entry almost ready. I'll have time to finish it and post it only after exactly 7 hours. I really hope the contest is open till then coz i dont know according to which time zone you will close the contest. :(

SV
08-04-2008, 05:52 PM
yeah if the contest could be extended by maybe a day that would be great. i can probably come up with a final entry sketch in an hour or less (just no fancy marker rendering) but i don't know when today i'll be doing it.

nedesign
08-04-2008, 10:02 PM
Here is my design of the Alfa Romeo 169 concept

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1020262qv7.jpg

LamboMan
08-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Whew! FINALLY done! Its 2:30 in the morning out here and i've got school at 7:15 in the morning and i dont know what im doin here.....oh ya im posting my entry.:P:lol: Man i sat down to get this finished 2 hours back and im finally done! Well i took some cues from the Brera and have hopefully managed to get the 169 right.....did i get it right guys?:fear: ;) I did try to make it as original as possible and made sure it looks like an alfa should.
Please C+C+C+C+C+......:lol:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a8c07e0b12.jpg

Cheers! :beer:

LamboMan
08-04-2008, 10:11 PM
Hey nedesign, your pic is not workin.

mrfdesign
08-04-2008, 10:56 PM
Lamboman, WOW. that is incredibly sexy and very original AND very Alfa-like!. You got my vote so far! BTW, would you mind if i rendered your 169?

Flyinmonkey - Really awesome man, one of my favourites! I love the rear ends ! and the presentation is superb

nedesign
08-04-2008, 11:32 PM
can anybody help my image shack photo won't work

DoMiNo
08-04-2008, 11:37 PM
LamboMan - you succeeded; it looks beautiful. Muscular, and evocative of Alfa's best-looking models, but with an edginess and aggression all its own. I don't like the "points" below the intakes so much, but as a whole it may be my favorite of your designs.

Flyinmonkey - Another beautiful render and presentation, positively professional. For better or worse, it's perhaps the most coupe-ish of the design proposals. The front is aggressive but a little anonymous at the same time; the rear is much more distinctive, and while it may not be quite production feasible, it certainly has presence.

nedesign
08-04-2008, 11:47 PM
Here is my design of the Alfa Romeo concept 169
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1020262qv7.jpg

street_dreamer
08-04-2008, 11:49 PM
Lamboman, that is stunning, no two ways about it, i absolutely love it.

Some extraordinary designs here... I feel so inadequate right now, haha. Congrats to all.

Nedesign, i like it, but i think the car is too squashed. If the bonnet was lower and wider it'd be awesome, it's a bit cartoony atm, but with huge potential :-D, it's obvious that you're a good designer even from this sketch, which i still love.

taskbearer
08-05-2008, 12:17 AM
Had to rush this in. Have been traveling, so no where near my PC for the past week. Had to do a quick sketch and some work on GIMP, disregarding all the tedious concepts I originally considered.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p83/taskbearer/aLFA1.jpg

DoMiNo
08-05-2008, 04:59 AM
Wicked look, taskbearer. Very racy.... futuristic and retro at the same time. I kinda like the writing on the front; again, it's kind of a "throw back" look, and combined with the small intakes flanking the grille, it reminds me somehow of an old race car. Of course it has your trademark Coke bottle body, too, which is beautiful and fitting in this instance. A little conceptual, though, it's hard to get a sense of the entire car, and how it would look on the road; I wish we could see more of it!!





Are we waiting on anyone? SV? Clun?

SV
08-05-2008, 06:42 AM
i'm gonna enter mine tomorrow morning if that's ok...it's a couple of quick sketches, alot of crap came up and i wasn't able to make a finished drawing =(

LamboMan
08-05-2008, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by mrfdesign:
Lamboman, WOW. that is incredibly sexy and very original AND very Alfa-like!. You got my vote so far! BTW, would you mind if i rendered your 169?
My God!! I am soooooo honoured by the fact that you think my design is worth your EXCELLENT rendering skills!!:woot2::woot2::) Please be my guest and render it as you like! Cheers my friend!! Thanks a lot for your comments! :beer:
Originally posted by DoMiNo:
LamboMan - you succeeded; it looks beautiful. Muscular, and evocative of Alfa's best-looking models, but with an edginess and aggression all its own. I don't like the "points" below the intakes so much, but as a whole it may be my favorite of your designs.

Domino, thank you soooo much for such wonderful feedback!:) You know how much your comments and appreciation mean to me! I just cant believe you liked it so much. Thanks man! :beer:
To street_dreamer: Thanks a lot dude!!

Man there are just so many awsome entries out here.
Flyinmonkey : Awsome render man.....and very sleek design.....totally pro! :thumbsup:
taskbearer : Wow that is one cool concept! Though the design is very alfa like as a whole, the hood design and lights together remind me slightly of the Lamborghini Reventon which, trust me, is an awesome thing! The design just flows really well !

swizzle
08-05-2008, 03:18 PM
Lamboman for me has nailed the new face of Alfa because it gets that Brera meanness without being Brera II. I like its scowl a lot.

What I like about taskbearer's design is that it totally steps out of all preconceived notions of what an Alfa is to look like. I really do fear that we will see a stampede of "me too" XF clones from the industry, and Alfa would be wise to build something utterly out of left field.

SV
08-05-2008, 09:07 PM
okay, here's my entry:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9995/alfa169tz3.jpg

not that great, it's just some quick sketches from a while back, but i wanted to have something to enter...in the end i ran out of time and wasn't into it much anyway =/

NelsonDesign
08-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Not that bad SV. Kinda reminds me of a Renault in the front. Presentation needs a little work but I understand why.

taskbearer
08-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Audi R8 The mix between the old alfa gt grille and the 8C headlamps is well thought out and the alfa 164-like rear stands out from all the similar looking rear end designs. On the technique, the side looks a bit flat, but the perspective is one of your best so far.

Prodigy What a beauty. Very muscular looking design. the profile is super sporty. The short rear deck and rear design with the owl look is especially emotional. The eyebrow headlights is a neat touch that I sort of like. cause if its not there it would look too much like a camaro with a V grille.albeit much rounder.

Kramer Fabulous 8C rear end and nice flowing sides. looks very alfa.I also do like your illustration style. Keep working to develop it and it would become a very cool signature. even if your second entry does not count, I do prefer the look of the first one better.

Steve Neill WOW Awesome sketch. very aggressive. The wild brera look is super. The short proportions looks like it would befitting for a 159 replacement. Awesome.

Vexedandglorious Definitely the best interpretation of the 8C front on a sedan. looks very simple and emotional. One can easily see this in production, although with a much lowered ride height.

dsgnr What a brilliant design. The flow of the design is just amazing. I especially love the bold grille and headlamps. Very quick looking technique too. I've been trying to work on some of my own, but not too succesful so far.

AXIS Your best design proportion wise. no extra long wheelbase here. the shape is actually very taut and dynamic. This is an awesome render and your best work to date. One thing though, the grille looks a little off. It needs to be tilted to the left a little to match with the position of the car.

mrfdesign Like you stated it looks very production ready. more like an illustration of an existing car than a preview sketch. The invisible rear door handle is a good homage to the 156, but the front end looks a little dated to me. It may be the extra wide grille or the position of the headlights in relation to the rest of the design. Nevertheless the work is still worthy of some thought.

Domino First of all that render is spectacular. Your most dramatic presentation. Then the design. when I first saw it , it gave me the same ground breaking feeling I had when I first saw the Brera concept. It looks familiar like an alfa should, but with a boat load of freshness. That front execution is the best part of the design, but the work just flows so well. Surely My favorite design here, why, cause its more daring than the recent Thesis work of students from Scuola Politecnica di Design. It shows that you did a lot of work to achieve the harmony.

ellash the face shows strong influence from many bertone concepts especially the birusa. that is a good thing. The side profile looks is similar to the BMW CX, but overall I like how you managed to make a very different alfa. and welcome to CSS.

knihc2008 One very elegant design. It is so subtle yet attention grabbing. It has all the bumps and curves in the right places. I love this design very much, but It also caused me much pain as It looked similar to one my early ideations. I had to scrap the idea entirely because I wanted some variety in the contest. kudos to beating me to the design. One that could easily be put into production and unanimously welcomed into the alfa family.

street_dreamer The grille and the lower air intakes is perfect, but the headlamp cluster is scary looking. toning it down a little or using a different design would help fix that.The design is very boxy which is not very alfa (I see you were going for such a look, much like the angular yet sensational GTV which was angular, but alfa, more experimentation will be needed to pull it off) and the perspective of the rear tire is slightly off. widening the ellipse a little will help. Sorry for the hard comments, just stating some guidelines to improve on the design.

206 Very interesting front end. Looks like it can become a new face for alfa. The design looks very compact, even more so than the 159. The side contours are good, but a little stretching is necessary for the 169.did I mention that your perspective issues are lessening by the day. keep up the good work.

Flyinmonkey Nice to see you back in action. For some reason I am drawn to the ducati inspired front of the rough sketch than the actual render. it's very imaginative. Back to the render, its one heck of a design. very dramatic. Although a bit too low for a coupe sedan.

Lamboman You have outdone yourself. That face is menacing. A well executed brera face. Most loved is the rising character line. very GTV. I experimented with that design cue myself, but was not as successful as you have done here. excellent work here.

SV looks like a work in progress, but it does show some cool alfa cues.I very much like your front fascia. would like to see the end result of this.

Excellent work everyone. Looks like another difficult contest. Just the way these contest should be.

NelsonDesign
08-05-2008, 11:57 PM
What about me dude?

taskbearer
08-06-2008, 12:38 AM
oops my bad. I did not see it at all.

Nelsendesign The design is very rounded which makes it look cute rather than menacing. The front is well resolved, a departure from the 8C and brera themes. It has a high jaguar R-D6 influence on the face, but it seems like the design is for an alfa junior than a 169 due to the compact proportions. A clean sketch except for the out of perspective windshield.

NelsonDesign
08-06-2008, 01:22 AM
Thanks TaskBreaker glad to hear what people have to think about my sketches. Just so you know guys, I am going to comment on all drawings in the voting.

Kramer
08-06-2008, 02:01 AM
Style? Really? Thanks man, I always thought my stuff looked a bit cartoony in terms of how its rendered (dark pen, no shading).

DoMiNo
08-06-2008, 06:00 AM
***CONTEST CLOSED***


Thank you to everyone who contributed to the contest. We've been on a roll lately, in terms of both the number and quality of the entries, as well as the thoughtful comments and criticism that are so vital to improving. I'm happy to see everyone so excited about these contests and I hope we can maintain this level of enthusiasm.

Voting will be up shortly!!

DoMiNo
08-06-2008, 06:39 AM
Epic contest, everyone!!! Thanks to everyone who contributed their designs, criticism, and general feedback to what has been the most-entered design contest in recent memory (19 entries!!). I know I seem to say this every time, but I am so impressed at the level of the competition here; everyone really brought their A-game for this one. And what's more, I worried initially that we'd get a lot of very similar ideas, when in fact just the opposite occurred, which speaks to the tremendous creativity of CSS designers. Everyone should be proud of their work; needless to say, voting will be tough.

Now it's time to vote on the concept you feel best fits the contest criteria. For the sake of consistency voting rules will remain the same, i.e. ten votes spread among your four favorite entries. If you are unfamiliar with the voting procedures or have other questions please refer to the contest rules here (http://www.carspyshots.net/showthread.php?t=2363).

As always, try to put some thought into your votes. If necessary, refer back to the entrants' individual descriptions in the contest thread to get more insight into their respective concepts. And as always, comments/explanation are welcome along with your votes.

But the more votes the better! If you did not enter and are just passing through, please take a couple of minutes to look these designs over and lend your feedback. Voting is, as always, open to all.

Here are the designs in the order received:

Audi R8 (http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8356/alfaromeo169xy9.jpg)
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8356/alfaromeo169xy9.th.jpg (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alfaromeo169xy9.jpg)

PRODIGY (Front (http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8742/02prodigy1qw1.jpg)) (Rear (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8413/02prodigy2wj9.jpg))
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8742/02prodigy1qw1.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02prodigy1qw1.jpg)

NelsonDesign (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1899/03nelsondesignve3.jpg)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1899/03nelsondesignve3.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03nelsondesignve3.jpg)

Kramer (http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6721/04kramerbu6.jpg)
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6721/04kramerbu6.th.jpg (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04kramerbu6.jpg)

Steve Neill (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6717/05steveneillyn5.jpg)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6717/05steveneillyn5.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05steveneillyn5.jpg)

VexedandGlorious (Ext (http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8324/06vandg1wk8.jpg)) (Int (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6218/06vandg2bu6.jpg))
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8324/06vandg1wk8.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06vandg1wk8.jpg)

dsgnr (http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/827/07dsgnrci7.jpg)
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/827/07dsgnrci7.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07dsgnrci7.jpg)

AXIS (http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1323/08axisub5.jpg)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1323/08axisub5.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=08axisub5.jpg)

mrfdesign (http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4363/09mrfdesignka7.jpg)
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4363/09mrfdesignka7.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09mrfdesignka7.jpg)

DoMiNo (169 (http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/598/alfa169ji2.jpg)) (169 GTA (http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6149/alfa169gtacu3.jpg))
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6149/alfa169gtacu3.th.jpg (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alfa169gtacu3.jpg)

ellash (http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9600/11ellashrq6.jpg)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9600/11ellashrq6.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11ellashrq6.jpg)

knihc2008 (sketch (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/661/12knihc1oi6.jpg)) (render (http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6034/12knihc2eg4.jpg))
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6034/12knihc2eg4.th.jpg (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12knihc2eg4.jpg)

street_dreamer (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3379/13streetdreamerrw9.jpg)
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3379/13streetdreamerrw9.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13streetdreamerrw9.jpg)

2o6 (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5033/142o6rl5.jpg)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5033/142o6rl5.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=142o6rl5.jpg)

Flyinmonkey (http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3782/15flyinmonkeykg8.jpg)
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3782/15flyinmonkeykg8.th.jpg (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15flyinmonkeykg8.jpg)

LamboMan (http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1473/16lambomankz2.jpg)
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1473/16lambomankz2.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16lambomankz2.jpg)

nedesign (http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4691/17nedesigntg6.jpg)
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4691/17nedesigntg6.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17nedesigntg6.jpg)

taskbearer (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6065/18taskbearerrn4.jpg)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6065/18taskbearerrn4.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18taskbearerrn4.jpg)

SV (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7192/19svgc7.jpg)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7192/19svgc7.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19svgc7.jpg)


Please let me know of any missing/broken links, or if I neglected to include any entries; I triple-checked, but there were so many this time it was tough to keep track. Hopefully I didn't skip over anyone.

As always, best of luck designers!!

mucus
08-06-2008, 09:06 AM
Hi guys here are my votes:
4: DoMiNo
3: AXIS
2: Steve Neill
1: knihc2008

Rob
08-06-2008, 09:22 AM
4: knihc2008
3: Steve Neill
2: DoMiNo
1: LamboMan

That was tricky. All fantastic entries.

the future
08-06-2008, 10:06 AM
Realistic, modern, sporty looking cars, not too much retro:

SV.............................. 3 points
Vexed&Glorious........... 3 points
DoMiNo....................... 2 points
PRODIGY.................... 2 points

I don't have time to write down my opinion about all entries, like I didn't even have time to participate.

PRODIGY
08-06-2008, 01:10 PM
Well done everyone!

This contest, unlike most recent ones, comes down to personal taste IMO. Whereas the other contests required thoughts on different concepts like the Porsche contest and presidential contest, this contest merely focused on designing a 169.

All entries bought something different to the table. I've given top scores to 3 entries as I like them all equally, and shows how diverse this contest has been...

3 - DoMiNo : A beautifull owl like Alfa with gorgeous little details. This would put Alfa back in the game. Nothing else to say really, all one needs to do is look at it and speech becomes difficult! Gobsmacked mate!

3 - Lamboman : This is as sporty and fresh as DoMiNo's is gracefull. Love that front end, and the whole design flows well. Well done! By far your best work yet!

3 - Knihc2008 : Another take on elegance, and this simple design works very well. Very Alfa like, and beautifull too. Not quite as sporty as DoM's or Lamboman's, but equal billing with them for being so gracefull and timeless.

1 - Audi_R8 : Well done Audi_R8, your Alfa is a nice design. I like the retro-ish face mixed with the 164 type sides and rear. I could see this on the road and selling very well on both sides of the Atlantic.

THE REST... sorry I didn't vote for you. It was down to personal taste.



NelsonDesign - Cool design, but not very Alfa. Actually the sides are a bit Jaguar.

Kramer - Another cool design, but the face is a bit Alfa 156 ish, and it doesn't really match the 8C inspired rear.

Steve Neill - Excellent drawing (except the fact it has no doors lol), but I see this as too sporty. Alfas should have that classic elegant sportiness. The sort of cars that you imagine in the future will be driving in historic hillclimbs, or looking good in concorse events in years to come. This hasn't got that quality. Still, it's a great design and I would like to see something similar as a 159 coupe perhaps.

VexedandGlorious - Sorry dude, just too retro for my tastes. It's a beautifull design, but it brings nothing new to the game.

dsgnr - Alfas next big sedan is a cabrio? Alfa need more sales, producing a niche cabrio like this isn't gonna achieve that. Even if this was a sedan, it hasn't got that Alfa feeling IMO. Finally I can see the headlight strips - I reckon you should have coloured the grille to make the lights stand out.

AXIS - Very nearlly got a point from me. Your best work yet, and classic Alfa styling. The face is distinctive and the body shape elegant. The reason I chose others over yours is just a personal taste thing.. I love DoMs, Lambomans and Knihcs the best, and Audi-R8 has evoked the 164 and 75, which were big sellers for Alfa. I could see their entries on the road, but yours looks better than an 8c and therefore I can't imagine Alfa stealing that cars thunder by brining out a 169 like this.

mrfdesign - Very cool design, and interesting face. Something is missing though and I can't put my finger on it. Lacks soul somehow.

Ellash - Looks like you were inspired by the same Alfas as me. Neat design, but it isn't quite as beautifull as an Alfa should be. It's almost how you'd imagine an Italian styling house to design an Alfa.

Street_dreamer - Sorry dude, this is just far too blocky for me. Doesn't have the smooth flowing lines of other Alfas.

2o6 - Intersting drawing. Love the sides, not overly keen on the front. It is very small, but you're forgiven for not knowing the size of the 169.

Flyinmonkey - ART! great artwork, nice idea, nice flowing lines, it's just that I prefer the other entries. Nearlly got a point from me.

nedesign - From the a-pillar back this looks like a Dodge. Cool drawing, but not very Alfalike IMO.

Taskbearer - wow! Another piece of artwork. This is very futursitic, and has a lot of Lancia Stratos cues. The thing is, this looks more like a mad concept rather than the next production 169. If this came out it would be way ahead of its time and would not sell in great numbers for that reason. Really like it mate, but it's just too 'out there' lol.

SV - I appreciate that you ran out of time, but this is a nice drawing all the same. It's just missing that x factor somehow.

SORRY IF I'VE MISSED ANYONE OUT!

swizzle
08-06-2008, 02:20 PM
Very difficult.

Taskbearer 7 points (took by far the greatest styling risks and stepped out from all the possible cliches the most convincingly. big risk = big reward in this case in my opinion)

Steve Neill 1 points
mfrdesign 1 points
lamboman 1 points

The above 3 played with the face of Alfa and came up with good ideas.

taskbearer
08-06-2008, 03:10 PM
Thanks swizzle for the generousity, now here are my picks

Domino - 4
Knihc2008 - 3
Lamboman - 2
AXIS -1

Honorable mention.
SteveNiell - this one would have got my vote if not for the fact that it just was not in the 169 mould
Prodigy - Clever design work, but that ultra long hood ala BMW Z4 detracted from the flow expected for an alfa

Like I said in my earlier comments, all the designs were top notch. we need to keep up this momentum. good job to all the participants.

I would also like to thank the participants for putting some awesome challenges. The past two contests have put me back in the design groove, in the past year I stopped designing altogether so I can focus on finishing my BS in computer science. Now that its out of the way I am working on a new portfolio for a Masters in Industrial design, so guys expect more designs from me from now on.

NelsonDesign
08-06-2008, 05:47 PM
Comments first...

Audi R8- Try to get into the sketching mode, it could be too realistic looking for my tastes in sketching. Side looks a little outdated and bland but I really like your front.

PRODIGY- Nice looking car, not too crazy about the front but I really like the sweeping lines in the side and the back view is gorgeous, very aggressive. I would have chosen some different rims.

Kramer- Looks a bit cartoonish, maybe just try pencil the next time and darken it in with pencil? As for the design, front grill has a strange un-alfa like design but It looks good, back of the car is really nice.

Steve Neill- definitely not your best, front is off somewhere but I can't tell why. Would've chosen some different rims, but the design of the car is nice, and it looks like an Alfa.

VexedandGlorious- Like your sketching style, also really looks like the new 169 probably would. Well thought out and nice design.

dsgnr- looks really bland but the sketching style makes it look cool, I like it.

AXIS- Much better proportions than other cars you have drawn. Cool perspective too and nice design

mrfdesign- not too crazy about the front but overall the car looks really nice. I like your rendering style too.

Domino- Once again a very nice car, but you really should have drawn the rims on there not paste them. Like your rendering and the color of the GTA is awesome.

ellash- really cool front end. I think the front wheels are out of perspective unless they are turned, windshield should curve not be straight and the car looks a little out dated, but once again the front is awesome.

knihc2008- You're right, the sketch does look cooler than the render but your rendering style is cool and the design is probably my favorite out of all of these. Back wheel is too big though.

street dreamer- I like your other alfa SO much better than this one. I don't really like the blockyness of this one even though it's out of the box. Other one was SO SO much better.

206- I think with this perspective we should've seen more of the front. Design is nice though and the background is not that distracting.

FlyinMonkey- Like the presentation, but the proportions are way off. The design would be better if you could get that fixed.

LamboMan- Really nice, aggressive, curvaceous, and the car seems to be in the right perspective. Good job

nedesign- get the cartoony feeling down and this would look really nice.

TaskBreaker- You really broke the task and went above and beyond on this one, retro design reminds me of a 60's le mans racer, which makes it look more away from the 166.

SV- cool designs but the presentation is lacking, I understand why though.

So with that said, here are my final results...

Knich2008- 4 points
Taskbreaker- 3 points
VexedandGlorious-2 points
mrfdesign-1 point

Domino, PRODIGY, and Lamboman were about to make it on my list as well, sorry guys

Nice job to everyone in this contest.

LamboMan
08-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Its voting time!! Oh im so excited! :P

Domino - 4 ........your entry takes the cake man!
taskbearer - 2.....man i just love your "coupe of the future" style.
knihc2008 - 2.......simply beautiful.....and very original.
AXIS - 2.......very strong stance and i love your rendering style.

mrfdesign, PRODIGY and Steve....im so sorry you guys. I really wished i could vote for seven people so that i could give you guys well deserved votes but alas!:( But really great efforts guys! :thumbsup:

mrfdesign
08-06-2008, 07:19 PM
Here it goes:

4 - Lamboman
Excellently drawn, great rendition of the Alfa's face. Love the front bumper design!

3 - Flyinmonkey
Sublime presentation. Really sexy flowing front with a really radical rear end

2 - SV
Great front end, love the lights.

1 - DoMiNo
Awesome render, wonderful front end, the side profile is a bit anonymous though.

To the rest - all entries were original and full of flair. Was simply down to personal taste

Citroeniste
08-06-2008, 07:39 PM
Fantastic results for this contest! I wish I could have entered, but alas that will have to wait until I get a new (working) scanner.

Here are my votes...

Lamboman - 4 Brilliant - aggressive front styling, and I love the sweeping lines of the body sides and the overall stance.

Domino - 3 Beautifully done, elegant and sexy, but probably treading dangerously close to Maserati.

Taskbearer - 2 It's as if your 169 was inspired by the BAT (sans wings) - futuristic and completely different

Axis - 1 I really like the muscular stance and proportion of your car. The body curves contrast nicely with the verticality of the trad Alfa grille. It seems smaller than a 169 though - more of a 159 rather than a large, flagship sedan

Honorable Mentions

Steve Neill - A great next generation Alfa GT
206 - Your design is definitely for a much smaller car than the 169, but I really like it - it makes me think of a modern day Giulietta or Giulia.

2o6
08-06-2008, 11:27 PM
4 - AXIS
Absolutely beautiful. You fixed the problems we all had with your other designs, and made something beautiful.

3 - Taskbearer
Loving that bubble canopy. Reminds me of some of the BAT concepts they've done.

2 - DoMiNo
Like the shape, not too fond of the front end.

1 - knihc2008
Like the Shape.

Kramer
08-07-2008, 02:29 AM
@ Nelson: I use my camera to take pictures of the images, because my scanner is a hassle to use + has a crappy DPI res =( and pencil doesn't show up very well. Thanks though, i'll keep that in mind and try to fiddle with the Contrast and Brightness settings on my camera.

4 - DoMiNo: Very modern, would be great as an Alfa because it would bring them into the next century.
3 - mrfdesign: Wonderful. Even though you used only one marker, the rendering and design is great.
2 - knihc2008: Long and elegant, harkens back to the old coachbuilt cars and their sleek designs.
1 - Steve Neill: Would be a great GT.. needs to be a bit longer, but otherwise awesome.

NelsonDesign
08-07-2008, 02:47 AM
I understand kramer, my scanner seems to do that too

knihc2008
08-07-2008, 08:53 AM
3 - Domino. Love this design. It is aggressive yet stately at the same time. I have qualms with the air outlet below the front door; I can usually excuse things that look cool but are impractical but I can't see this design trait making it to production in any way, as it severely makes getting in difficult. I'd like to see a better resolution to this part of the design.
3 - Dsgnr. I don't know why but I fell in love with your design the moment I looked at it. It is so simple and so bare but something about the basic relationships between the wheel and the body, the flares and the character line, and especially the front with the large intakes and incomplete Alfa grill really spoke to me for some reason. The subtlety of the curves playing with the shadows and light without requiring lines to denote them. Love it.
2 - Taskbearer. What an amazing view! However, would like to see how this front end plays into the rest of the car, if this decidedly racy, sports car-like nose can match up harmoniously with a sedan greenhouse and body. Also in my opinion it is too angular and not organic enough to fit into the current Alfa lineup.
2 - flyinmonkey. Your rear end views are what really drew me into this design. They are WICKED! They are all somewhat similar but the full rear 3/4 view on the right was what really attracted my attention. Sporty, with those stacked double center exhausts, and completely unique, but absolutely Alfa. As such, the sides, which I also love, don't really match up with the front view of the car you rendered.

NelsonDesign
08-08-2008, 02:22 AM
Comon people, everyone that entered should at least TRY to vote

Flyinmonkey
08-08-2008, 06:59 AM
Comon people, everyone that entered should at least TRY to vote

Comon people, everyone that entered should at least TRY to vote

Hey chill out bro, people have bigger priorities in life trust me the 2-3 years I have been here everyone votes.


knihc2008- 3 Your design looks like it can have some competition with the Fisker Karma. I adore how the headlights are integrated with the car's one line. It sure could looks like it can make itself room in Alfa's lineup

DoMiNo-3 Never fail to impress me. You have a certain style to your work and luckily its attractive to eye. The 169 you've designed has beautiful lines which work well with the grille and headlights

taskbearer-2 You took a risk with your design, which i admire, and still manage to have that italian influence:woot2:

SV-2 . Ive seen you develope your techinique over time and man keep going at it. You definitely have talent man. Love how you have integrated the headlights with the front air dams. looks sleek

street_dreamer
08-08-2008, 09:56 AM
Domino - 4
SV -3
Knihc2008 - 2
Lamboman - 1

All of the designs were excellent, but these were my favourite. I didn't know which order to vote in either. It's taken my 5minutes of staring at my screen to choose this order. Congrats boys! :-)

NelsonDesign
08-08-2008, 04:21 PM
@Flyinmonkey: I understand people may have bigger priorities, that's why I just said that they should try to.

Thanks for voting

AXIS
08-08-2008, 08:39 PM
4.- Flyinmonkey
3.- LamboMan
2.- knihc2008
1.- DoMiNo

Everyone really stepped up for this contest great job guys.

DoMiNo
08-10-2008, 05:47 PM
This was by far the hardest contest to judge; narrowing it down to the four best was near impossible.

3 - LamboMan - your best work to date; what I noticed when reviewing the entries is that I would love the front of one, the rear of another, and the sides of yet another. Your design, on the other hand, is aggressive and visually arresting all around; you didn't focus too hard on one particular element and it shows in a well-balanced overall package.
3 - knihc2008 - the most classically elegant of the designs. I've said before that I'm a sucker for swoopy fenders and low greenhouses; this case is no different. I wish there were a bit more excitement in the headlamp treatment but other than that I admire your restraint, because the shape is effortlessly beautiful and speaks for itself.
3 - taskbearer - as many above have noted, yours is the most radical approach. At the same time, as I mentioned in my earlier commentary, it gives me a vintage Can-Am or Le Mans racer feel (though for no particular reason). As with knihc, I love the seductively-flared fenders and slender waist. The treatment of the pillars/glass is also interesting. The more I look at what I once thought was a relatively simple view, the more I see.
1 - AXIS - Yours was an admirable blend of elegance and sportiness. I love how the front is upright but also sleek and swept-back, it kind of conveys the car's dual purpose. The Mi.To rear lights work well, and again I can't resist a voluptuous fender treatment.


It's so hard to end there, because I feel like everyone deserves mention. Wonderful work, all.

DoMiNo
08-12-2008, 06:39 AM
Thank you to everyone who took the time to vote and to lend their constructive feedback to the contest entrants. With such a spectacular roster of entries this was undoubtedly the hardest contest to vote on thus far.

Here are the final standings:


DoMiNo - 40
knihc2008 - 30
taskbearer - 24
LamboMan - 22
AXIS - 12
SV - 10
Flyinmonkey - 9
Steve Neill - 7
VexedandGlorious - 5
mrfdesign - 5
dsgnr - 3
PRODIGY - 2
Audi_R8 - 1
NelsonDesign - 0
Kramer - 0
ellash - 0
streetdreamer - 0
2o6 - 0
nedesign - 0

My sincere thanks to everyone for their votes and comments; I am beyond honored to have finished on top in what was undoubtedly the stiffest competition we've had here. Everyone obviously raised the bar yet again and I cannot wait to see what you guys come up with next time! If you didn't place as high as you'd hoped, don't be discouraged; there's always a next time and with each contest everyone hones both their technical and conceptual skills. I am beyond impressed :)

Once again, a huge thank you, guys!!! I will have a few contest ideas up soon!