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Ascariss
05-25-2005, 02:43 PM
<IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//neujetta.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>The new Jetta  Initial Facts<p>European debut with the start of pre-sales on June 3rd<br></B><p>- New Jetta launched with standard air conditioning and 75 kW engine from euro 18,950<br>- Jetta is the most successful car from any European manufacturer in North America<p>Wolfsburg, 25. May 2005 - Volkswagen has revived the Jetta, Europe's most successful automobile in the USA. Its technical genes are shared with the best-selling German car of all time, the Golf. Its design is entirely new. More than 6.5 million Jetta vehicles have been sold throughout the world to date. Following its market launch in North America, the most recent generation is due to be launched in Germany on June 3rd. All other European countries, plus Asia, Africa and Australia will follow successively. With the new model, Volkswagen is introducing a uniform, world-wide name for its compact saloon; in Germany (Europe), the Bora will therefore become the Jetta once again. Its features include its sporty design, lots of room for journeys, a very spacious luggage compartment, superior vehicle dynamics and its outstanding finish.<p><br><b>Design  new face, new dynamics</b><p>The new Jetta's most dominant design feature is the front end with its chrome radiator grille. With its new face, the fifth generation of this model reflects its claim of being considerably more independent, sporty and refined. In stylistic terms, the V-shaped radiator grille consciously reveals its proximity to the new Passat and the Golf GTI, the brand's first two series models with the new "VW face". The result is that the front end is contoured more sharply and is therefore more dynamic and elegant than ever before.<p>The rear end is also striking: its style also reflects the current VW design line and reveals the very fast-acting LED lights which have already become almost a typical Volkswagen feature.<p><b>Exterior dimensions  new size, new class</b><p>The switch from the Bora to the Jetta not only involves a major design leap, but also an increase in interior and exterior dimensions. The new Jetta is 4.55 metres long (+ 17,8 cm), 1.78 metres wide (+ 4,6 cm) and 1.46 metres high (+ 1,3 cm). Along with the vehicle's length, its wheelbase has been extended to 2.58 metres (+ 6.5 cm).<p><b>Interior dimensions  more space in the rear, 527-litre luggage compartment</b><p>The exterior dimensions have been increased almost entirely to the advantage of the interior and therefore the maximum of five passengers in the Jetta. In the rear, for example, the effectively useable leg room has been increased by 5 centimetres and head room by 2.4 centimetres. The Jetta's traditionally large luggage compartment has reached enormous proportions: it now offers 527 litres of luggage space, 72 litres more than its predecessor. The rear bench seat backrest can be folded 1/3 to 2/3 as standard to form a continuous and almost flat cargo area extension.<p><b>Basic price / basic equipment  more equipment, less money</b><p>The new Jetta will be available with seven engines (four petrol engines, three turbodiesel engines, with outputs ranging from 75 kW to 147 kW) and in three equipment lines (Trendline, Comfortline and Sportline).<p>The saloon's price/performance ratio is one of the best the segment has to offer. With standard features such as a semi-automatic air conditioning system (Climatic), ESP, six airbags, active front headrests, electromechanical power steering, electric window lifters (4-fold), central locking with radio remote control, electrically adjustable and heated outside rear-view mirrors, dash panels, door trims and centre console manufactured from high-quality plastics painted with soft-effect paint, even in lower areas, and 205 dimension tyres (16"), the new Jetta fitted with the basic engine (1.6, 75 kW / 102 hp) and equipment (Trendline) will cost euro 18,950 in Germany.<p>Despite significant, further, technical developments, the vehicle's price has therefore been reduced by euro 350 versus a comparably equipped predecessor vehicle with similar output. Traditionally, the Jetta additionally offers more individual and extensive, basic equipment than a comparable Golf.<p><b>Engines  seven engines, six direct injection engines</b><p>Besides the basic engine, the Jetta will exclusively be fitted with direct injection engines (FSI and TDI). The petrol engines offer outputs of 85 kW / 115 hp (1.6 FSI) and 110 kW / 150 hp (2.0 FSI). A 147 kW / 200 hp 2.0 turbocharged FSI engine, which is currently causing a stir in the Golf GTI, will follow as the top engine. These three FSI engines are rounded off by three TDIs with outputs of 77 kW / 105 hp, 103 kW / 140 hp and 125 kW / 170 hp (the latter will be launched at a later date).<p>The TDIs and the turbocharged FSI will be optionally available with the highly-efficient and sporty double-shift gearbox DSG (automatic, pulling power not interrupted during shifting, no negative influence on consumption and performance). An optional six-speed automatic gearbox will also be available for the 75 kW and 110 kW petrol engines. As of autumn 2005, it will additionally be possible to order the new Jetta with a diesel particulate filter.<p><b>International  markets and Mexico</b><p>Ranked in order of volume, the Jetta's ten most important markets outside of Germany and the USA are Great Britain, Turkey, Austria, Spain, Italy, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Australia and Sweden. The subsequent five places are occupied by Poland, Japan, Ireland, Hungary and Finland.<p>The new Jetta will be built in VW's Mexican plant in Puebla, employing state-of-the-art production methods: for example, the body will be manufactured using extensive laser welding technology and high-strength grades of steel. In comparison with the predecessor, the length of laser-welded joints has increased 14-fold. The dual-percent increases in static and dynamic body stiffness values are not least attributable to this factor.<p><br>More pictures:<br><A HREF="http://www.automotorundsport.de/d/83246" TARGET="_blank">http://www.automotorundsport.de/d/83246</A>

piokor
05-25-2005, 03:07 PM
I wonder why they are going back to the Jetta name instead of continueing the Bora name...?<p>Also, why are you making a new thread for this? There aren't any major changes between this car the the US spec...?

Ascariss
05-25-2005, 04:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, why are you making a new thread for this? There aren't any major changes between this car the the US spec...?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because I feel like it. Question is, why are you questioning my choice? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

The Water Is Poison
05-25-2005, 04:47 PM
Oh no he didnt *snaps fingers three times in a Z motion* I would've liked them to maintain the Bora name just to differentiat a little

piokor
05-25-2005, 05:32 PM
Sorry I didn't know it was you who posted this thread :p . I just said that because I thought that the person who posted this thread didn't know there already was a thread about the Jetta. Also, we aren't allowed to question the mods/admins on this board?<p><br>Anyway, I visit Poland a lot, and it seems like there are more Boras then there are Golfs. I wonder if there will be some sort of price increase and if it will change this.

Reppu
05-26-2005, 12:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Because I feel like it. Question is, why are you questioning my choice? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>But you (mods) always advice us (members) not to start redundant threads. What is different this time? Or has that rule changed?

Aidan
05-26-2005, 02:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>But you (mods) always advice us (members) not to start redundant threads. What is different this time? Or has that rule changed?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think this a redundant thread as prices and specifacations are different from the North American model, are they not? Jetta's are quite a big seller in Ireland and perhaps some people would like this information straight away rather than combing through 5 pages of the American thread and then to find they are not there.<br> <br>Also, this is Ascariss' forum, so can he not post/create what he wants?

Reppu
05-26-2005, 03:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Aidan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Also, this is Ascariss' forum, so can he not post/create what he wants?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>He did the rules himself, so i guess he should give example to others. But hey, you are right, it's his forum so he deserves to have special rights.

spwolf
05-26-2005, 06:12 AM
I wonder how well it will do in Europe - I think only real appeal it has would be that it is cheaper than Passat.

Regazzoni
05-26-2005, 07:14 AM
In Italy, different generations of Jetta had a quite sad life.<p>First. Consider that Italians quite dislike 3-volumes cars (4 doors, sedans...) of small and medium dimensions and almost hate this kind of cars when they are derived from a hatch-back.<p>Second. Jetta is seen as an odd version of Golf, or a cheaper Passat.<p>Third: Jetta, in italian, sounds like "throw away": nothing to do with "jet" planes, but more with rubbish.<p><br>Maybe for theese reasons, after calling it Jetta during the '80 and selling little, in Italy, VW started to give it different names.<br>For Golf III generation, the called it "Vento" (in italian "wind"), but it was estetically too similar to Golf and it went bad.<br>For Golf IV generation, the called it "Bora" ( a tipical italian north-headed stormy wind) and it was quite a success: it was sufficiently different (from Golf) and elegant to be seen as a totally indipendent model.<p>Now VW is stepping back and trying to sell a car called Jetta (like the '80 one, that in Italy is sometimes seen as a misfortun-bringing car), with a front end that screams "Golf!!"<p>I preview a quite big flop.

Andre
05-26-2005, 08:04 AM
We've often had two threads for American and European versions of cars, but usually the cars are very different. in this instance, th NA and EU spec cars are very different despite looking the same. they are produced in two different places (I believe) for two different audiences, whereas often cars are made strictly for one market, then piggybacked into the other (where it doesn't do as well)<p>Our problem is people who post about the same car that is ten threads down the list, we often let it slide if the original thread is far down the list. We did this so Europeans can discuss the car without weeding through ten pages of North American Discussion first. Please, let's focus on the car now.

Blackraven
05-26-2005, 10:26 PM
I have a question though.<p>What is DSG??? Is it something like BMW's SMG where it is a Manual tranny that can also be an Automatic (Auto mode, I presume).<p>If so, why would we need a separate 6 speed-auto tranny if the DSG is already the manual and the auto tranny IN ONE, thus wouldn't it be better if only one tranny would be required (the DSG) if that were the case??????

Andre
05-27-2005, 12:07 AM
DSG is a twin clutch automatic transmission, yes, much like SMG. currently in use in the TT and entering othe models with the 3.2 and 3.6 V6s

Roddy
05-31-2005, 01:27 AM
I presentl,y drive a 2001 Bora (Jetta) in Australia. I won't be replacing it with this...very plain looking car, even though I hear the quality is UP the looks are down.

Regazzoni
05-31-2005, 05:02 AM
I agree.<br>It's heavy, with an overloaded Golf front-end and an elegance-less Passat rear.

Tidal
06-01-2005, 06:12 AM
I think the Skoda Octavia will dance circles around this car. It looks better, has an even larger trunk, same engine choices, great quality ( if standards in the Puebla factory haven't improved from the Beetle, the Skoda will probably be better quality ) and at a lower price. The only thing this car has going for it is the VW name.

Jordmaniac
06-05-2005, 02:36 PM
um, it looks exactly the same. is europe a part of the us now?

AM2
06-05-2005, 03:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jordmaniac</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um, it looks exactly the same. is europe a part of the us now?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Other than the 5-cylinder engine missing from the lineup and having smaller base engines, most of the exterior changes were done at the rear.<br>The euro Jetta needs a wider license plate provision for wider euro license plates. The rear taillights are different too and the rear bumper reflectors and front bumper mounted sidemarker/signal lights are not present in the euro Jetta. I think the euro Jetta's alloy wheels look better too.<br><IMG SRC="http://img12.echo.cx/img12/9883/jettarears3lv.jpg" BORDER="0">