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jahc24
05-17-2005, 09:35 PM
This its Audi Q7 Oficcial pics?<p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zsr7" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zsrc" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zss0" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zssm" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zst0" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zswg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zswp" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/02_02_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/02_01_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>

LEXUS FAN!
05-17-2005, 09:59 PM
there are official and were posted on the spy shots section too<p>i don't know where the mods want to keep this though

JBlair
05-17-2005, 10:33 PM
Notice the taillamp section; Audi deliberately blacked that section out from the photo. Maybe they're hiding something..............

Speedstick
05-18-2005, 04:47 AM
I love the Q7 symbol....

bm88
05-18-2005, 08:16 AM
Yeah, the logo is pretty good.<p>The "Q" should be the shape of the grill though.

Comrade
05-19-2005, 12:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Verdegrrl</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The details:<p>length 196 in<br>width 78 in<br>height 68 in<br>cargo space 21.2-58.3 cubic feet<br>weight 4928 lbs (V6)<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Just for comparison:<p>BMW X5 3.0<p>Curb weight: 4,653 lbs<br>Length: 183.7 in<br>Width: 73.7 in<br>Height: 67.5 in<br>Wheelbase: 111.0<p>Porsche Cayenne (V6)<p>Curb Weight: 4,762 lbs<br>Length: 188.2 in <br>Width: 75.9 in<br>Height: 66.9 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.4 in<p>VW Touareg V6<p>Curb Weight: 5,086 lbs<br>Length: 187.2 in <br>Width: 75.9 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.4 in<p>Infiniti FX 35<p>Curb Weight: 4,268 lbs<br>Length: 189.1 in<br>Width: 75.8 in<br>Height: 65.0 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.2 in<p>EDIT:<p>Lexus GX470<p>Curb Weight: 4871 lbs<br>Length: 188.2 in<br>Width: 74 in<br>Height: 74.6 in (holy shi* it's tall!)<br>Wheelbase: 110 in <p>Acura MDX<p>Weight: 4510 lbs<br>Length: 188.7 in<br>Width: 77 in<br>Height: 71.3 in<br>Wheelbase: 106.3<p>Volvo XC90<p>Weight: 4450 lbs<br>Length: 188.9 in <br>Width: 74.7 in<br>Height: 70.2 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.6<p>Saab 9-7X<p>Weight: 4770 lbs<br>Length: 193.2 in<br>Width: 75.4 in<br>Height: 68.5 in<br>Wheelbase: 113 in<p>MB M350<p>Weight: 4819 lbs<br>Length: 188.5 in<br>Width: 75.2 in<br>Height: 69..8 in<br>Wheelbase: 114.7 in<p>LR LR3 (V6)<p>Weight: 5,426<br>Length: 190.9 in<br>Width: 75.4 in<br>Height: 74.1 in<br>Wheelbase: 113.6 in<p><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Comrade at 9:09 AM 5/23/2005</i>

Hornbag
05-19-2005, 04:07 AM
WOW!!!<p>This looks great, so powerful with its styling!<br>I didnt know how heavy the Touareg was (so therefore the Q7)<p>Any other details realeased yet...

knicks125
05-19-2005, 06:09 AM
good stats and comparsions, Comrade...too heavy is what I think...I've read someone here posted 6,500lb (on the v8), that's even crazy, let's wait and see the performance specs...<p>Audi/VW did a good job on this car, however, the grille needs to go, IMO, just like on the rest of its car lineup...I love the old grille

Comrade
05-19-2005, 09:53 AM
They must have lied. I think it is more likely that the difference between the V6 and the V8 version is about as big as the diff between the A6 3.2 (3957) and A6 4.2 (4,145), which is 188 lbs. 4928+188=5116 (give or take). <p>I think they should use the A8's 4.2L in this SUV rather than the A6's 4.2L. Yes, there is a diffferene. About 7cc, but the A8's 4.2L has 7 lbs/ft torque more and the A8 gets a better mileage than the A6 with 18/24 vs. 17/23, which a lot considering the A8 is heavier. Plus the A6 has a LEV rating while the A8 has ULEV. I believe the reason for the amaller V8 is that it weighs little less and it could fit under the S4's hood (correct me if I'm wrong), but a little more weight wouldn't matter in such a big car. They should also use the 3.2 FSI rather than Touareg's 3.2 because it's got slightly more power and is more efficient. But still, either 3.2L is too weak for such a heavy car, especially when they aim to compete against the lighter and more powerful FX.<p>I really like the styling if this car. A big grill in a big SUV is just what people want. Everything BIG!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I can't wait to see it in real life. It's gonna be amazing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Comrade at 10:18 AM 5/19/2005</i>

JBlair
05-19-2005, 10:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good stats and comparsions, Comrade...too heavy is what I think...I've read someone here posted 6,500lb (on the v8), that's even crazy, let's wait and see the performance specs...<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You expect it to magically gain 1600 pounds over the V6 version??

r3vilo
05-19-2005, 12:45 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Notice the taillamp section; Audi deliberately blacked that section out from the photo. Maybe they're hiding something..............</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think thats just the lighting, no?

erzhik
05-19-2005, 04:42 PM
I think they are hiding that trunk design that everyone is talking about. or maybe the rear lights, because they did it in another official pics on sand.<p>Just watched that Q7 video. AMAZING! It is really really interesting how it stays on track after turns like that. I mean I have never seen an SUV that does something like that. And on video it really looks like an SUV, but on spy pics it looked like a crossover..hmmm<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by somebody..lol at 6:48 PM 5/19/2005</i>

OA4E
05-20-2005, 08:17 AM
You can maybe remember the Pikes Peak quattro concept which had horizontal taillights. The Q7 has vertical lights, that`s why they are hiding the rear of the car.

JBlair
05-20-2005, 08:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OA4E</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can maybe remember the Pikes Peak quattro concept which had horizontal taillights. The Q7 has vertical lights, that`s why they are hiding the rear of the car. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, the taillamps are almost identical to the Pikes peak, which makes the 'creative' lighting curious

Andre
05-20-2005, 11:03 AM
The Verticle assemblys in the spy shots were about 50% red tape. The Q7 will look about like a buffed up A3 four door (forget what it's call :P )

JBlair
05-20-2005, 12:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Verticle assemblys in the spy shots were about 50% red tape. The Q7 will look about like a buffed up A3 four door (forget what it's call :P )</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You mean the A3 SportBack thinga-ma-jigger <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

OA4E
05-20-2005, 11:01 PM
Look espacially on the last picture...don`t you think, that there `s also a horizontal part? It is obviously clear that there `ll be also horizontal taillightparts.

Soul Man
05-20-2005, 11:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OA4E</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look espacially on the last picture...don`t you think, that there `s also a horizontal part? It is obviously clear that there `ll be also horizontal taillightparts.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>nobody is arguing that hte tailights will be horizontal, we pretty much no they will be, whats being argued is the fact you said in your other post that they were hiding vertical tailights which is 99.9999 (and so on) un true.

Speedster S
05-20-2005, 11:21 PM
This car looks amazing a lot better than the VW or Porsche suv. (style wise)

Charger
05-21-2005, 06:52 AM
<IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/54zsx2" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoscoops from some place else

jro4566
05-21-2005, 04:22 PM
This is going to be a great vehicle, no doubt about that. But I'm voicing my concern about Audi's recent quality problems, along with all the other German manufacturers. I like how Fourtitude says it will have the bold styling and performance of an FX but with a 3rd row. I just don't see the justifying point of getting this compared to the MDX - the class-leader in my book, unless you want a V8. It's definitely going to have a nicer interior with more performance from its chassis, but how many families will be racing around the Nurburgring?

IcedG35
05-22-2005, 11:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is going to be a great vehicle, no doubt about that. But I'm voicing my concern about Audi's recent quality problems, along with all the other German manufacturers. I like how Fourtitude says it will have the bold styling and performance of an FX but with a 3rd row. I just don't see the justifying point of getting this compared to the MDX - the class-leader in my book, unless you want a V8. It's definitely going to have a nicer interior with more performance from its chassis, but how many families will be racing around the Nurburgring?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This will be a completely different SUV than an MDX...it will be much roomier, much more expensive, have better engines, offer more interior features, and be much less bland in styling....as far as German quality, while it is very disputable, i think they're making a comeback. I know JD Power Associates tests are very controversial, but according to the new car tests, MB and BMW are back in the top 5 for least problems with new vehicles....only time will tell how these new vehicales hold up but i have faith considering the Germans knew how publicized their quality issues have become.

sanbar778
05-22-2005, 07:08 PM
I don't see how the Acura is the class leader in any shape or form. Well maybe price-wise. The Audi, in my book (and why i would buy it) is about design and quality. I dont think many people will cross shop an MDX with a Q7. They seem targeted at very different people.

scorpio14
05-23-2005, 12:42 AM
Must say this is the COOLest SUV... i love it...<p>Size-wise this thing is bigger then a Lexus GX and LX... crap... well its not higher.... but length and width wise it is....

Gian86
05-23-2005, 04:46 PM
Didn't look much on this car but, what can i say??? Absolutely very nice SUV so far from Audi. Better than Allroad. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

erzhik
05-23-2005, 08:55 PM
yeah, well Allroad was their first attempt, but it was a bad idea to take A6 avant and just make it higher. But they got a really nice engine in there. But this Q7 is really what I expected from Audi, really nice looking SUV

Denali
05-24-2005, 10:05 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Must say this is the COOLest SUV... i love it.......</TD></TR></TABLE><br>im with u on that, she sure looks nice<p>MDX class leader, <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

IcedG35
05-24-2005, 10:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, well Allroad was their first attempt, but it was a bad idea to take A6 avant and just make it higher. But they got a really nice engine in there. But this Q7 is really what I expected from Audi, really nice looking SUV</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it wasn't a bad idea considering how many they sold versus regular A6 wagons and the fact that they decided to make another allroad means that it is a profitable car

Comrade
06-26-2005, 12:49 AM
Audi has updated their Q7 Globe for June, we totally forgot. The 4.2L is going to feature FSI, but I don't see specs anywhere.<p><A HREF="http://www.audi.de/q7-globe" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audi.de/q7-globe</A>

Gian86
06-26-2005, 05:52 AM
Here it is, more official pics:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/audi/2006/q7/gama/gra/05.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/audi/2006/q7/gama/gra/04.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/audi/2006/q7/gama/gra/07.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/audi/2006/q7/gama/gra/03.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: km77.com<br>

against the wall
06-26-2005, 06:12 AM
ok i think this is beautiful and audi finally showed the taillights. except the pic of them is so huge u cant see what they look like on the car without any camo on them.

knicks125
06-26-2005, 06:20 AM
The front looks way to busy but otherwise I like this.<p>I wonder how the license plates would look here in the states. The new grilled designed A4 I saw the other day, looked really weird with the longer plates. The european plates fit perfectly with this design, the US plates, I don't feel the same way.<p>Good timing for Audi, just as gas prices are skyrocketing in the US, they come out with a new SUV eats gas like how most SUVs do.

IcedG35
06-26-2005, 08:53 AM
Is there a reason why this is coming out so long after the Cayenne and Tourag? Is this just a way to give Porsche a strong start at Cayenne sales?

Comrade
06-26-2005, 08:59 AM
If you hit #4 (Sovereignty) on the Q7 Globe, you'll see another set of tail lamps on the bumper They're thin but I think unnecessary. I wish this SUV looked more agressive. <p>Knicks, you can set the tiptronic transmission to "particularly fuel-efficient" according to Audi, which will get you the mileage of a regular sedan <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> ...........................................not! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>IcedG35, yeah that's preety much the reason. The price point of the Q7 and the Cayenne is much closer and they would be direct competitors and because it was co-devloped w/ Porsche, the deal is that Audi couldn't come out with their version as soon. So yes, a headstart...

phoenix1
06-26-2005, 12:03 PM
what's with these wheel arches showing up on every car these days. enough already.

erzhik
06-26-2005, 01:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Waleed399</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what's with these wheel arches showing up on every car these days. enough already.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>dude, this is an SUV. it supposed to have wheel arches.

DoMiNo
06-26-2005, 02:03 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> The more I look at it, the more it smacks of Mercedes Benz R-class. <p>It's pleasant, though, I guess. But I have the feeling it will be obscenely expensive.

spwolf
06-26-2005, 02:51 PM
So it will fit between Touareg and Porsche in pricing? I would say X5 competitor, but it is quite large and quite heavy, are they really going to offer it with V6 in US, or maybe only in the Europe?<p>At 5,000lbs, at 50k, V6 makes absolutly no sense at all...

sanbar778
06-26-2005, 05:28 PM
Personally I find the new R-class very ugly, the B-class actually looks more attractive to me for some reason...This on the other hand...WOW!!! It does look to be obscenely expensive though ::sigh::

DSC-OFF
06-26-2005, 06:01 PM
<IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/news/2005/0624/audi.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Shot in Colorado<p>Source& Article: <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106196" TARGET="_blank">Edmunds</A>

JBlair
06-26-2005, 08:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So it will fit between Touareg and Porsche in pricing? I would say X5 competitor, but it is quite large and quite heavy, are they really going to offer it with V6 in US, or maybe only in the Europe?<p>At 5,000lbs, at 50k, V6 makes absolutly no sense at all...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It will not weigh 5000 pounds. I believe it ranged from 4200-4500, if I remember what Verdgerrl said correctly.

Comrade
06-26-2005, 09:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It will not weigh 5000 pounds. I believe it ranged from 4200-4500, if I remember what Verdgerrl said correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>She said 4928lbs for the V6, look on the first page.<p>I think we can expect 340-350HP and about 325 lbs/ft of torque from that 4.2 FSI engine. I hope they use a bigger V6 than that 3.2L...I mean 3.1L to be exact, cuz that's not enough power.

jahc24
06-27-2005, 10:07 AM
The great SUV<br><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/03_01_wallpaper_1024.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>

JBlair
06-27-2005, 10:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">She said 4928lbs for the V6, look on the first page.<p>I think we can expect 340-350HP and about 325 lbs/ft of torque from that 4.2 FSI engine. I hope they use a bigger V6 than that 3.2L...I mean 3.1L to be exact, cuz that's not enough power. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You got me there. I thought she said that it was lower than that, but the figure she gave (the 4928) was in response to people saying it would weigh 5200-5500. The engine should be based on the new RS4 engine, if it does use the FSI head (the other Audi engines don't have it). As for the V6; consider that the V6 used would make almost as much power as the next BMW X5 3.0, if it uses the new 6 cylinder. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <p>Verdgerrl said that the V6 would weight 4928 pounds. But she has also said that the S6 would compete with the M5 so.... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What a nice way to take a potshot at someone. As for the S6; Audi does want it to compete with the M5. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
06-27-2005, 12:03 PM
pot is for smoking, not shooting

SELLER
06-27-2005, 10:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also 4928lbs is still heavier than Q7 competitors. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah but none of the Q7 Competitors will have a 5.2 liter V10 with 450-520hp (S Version)

jro4566
06-27-2005, 10:25 PM
Since when are V6-powered, 7-passenger luxury SUVs geared towards different people? I know some of you agree that the MDX isn't the class leader, but you don't have to have the most features to be the best.<p>Powerful V6? Yes<br>Standard stability control? Yes<br>Standard AWD? Yes<br>Standard side-curtain airbags for all 3 rows? Yes<br>Standard leather? Yes<br>Standard OnStar? Yes<p>It may not have the most technologically-advanceed features like MagneRide or Distronic, but just because a vehicle doesn't have the most technology doesn't make it the best. BMW and Mercedes have taught us that...<p>From what I've seen of the Q7 I have to say it's nothing special. Are HIDs a necessity? No. Neither are high-powered engines. Soccor moms could really care less, as long as it had enough power to speed up on the freeway on-ramp.

sanbar778
06-27-2005, 11:35 PM
Come on, are we starting this MDX thing again. I don't think many average consumers will be cross shopping these. The Audi is all about style/design, elegance, and quality. The MDX just ain't that pretty in my book and the interior is like the Honda Odyssey which I am guessing is pretty fitting. Not the idea of what I perceive luxury to be, but it will no doubt be tons cheaper then the Q7. I am so worried about the price on this machine...

JBlair
06-28-2005, 08:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It DOESN'T matter what Audi wants, what matters is what really happens and what really happens is the S6 eating dust from the M5. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> Also 4928lbs is still heavier than Q7 competitors. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, the LR3 is heavier, the Lexus GX is only about 100 pounds off, and we don't even know the weight of the next X5. (you can bet your BMW-loving butt that its going to be heavier.)

LEXUS FAN!
06-28-2005, 09:40 AM
the back of the Q7 looks way too stationwagon like....i think i will have to wait to get a real opinion because the pictures are deceiving...some are SUV like and some are more stationwagon type...<p>hopefully it is more SUV with a rugged edge.

JBlair
06-28-2005, 09:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Land and AUDI are very heavy, even the cayenne, which is heavy, is lighter then them. The current X5 is lighter then them, so i dont think that the new one is going to be havier than the Q7's yacht weight. No one know the weight of the future X5 so STOP posting crap. <B>You really seem do don't know much about cars and about me since my ass goes for porsche.</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uh huh. (ignoring the ignorant comments) <br>Anyways....................... <p>When exactly does this thing debut? I know it should be soon based on the rate of picture leakage, but does anybody know the exact date yet.

OA4E
06-28-2005, 09:56 AM
The Q7 will start with the V6 TDI and around 50.000€ (sorry, but I don`t know how much $ that makes). The V8 is the new 4.2 V8 FSI already known from the RS4, but in the Q7 it has not as much power as it has in the RS4 (~ 350 hp). So far, it is not sure which V6 petrol engine the Q7 will get. Some sources are saying 3.2 VR6, some 3.2 V6 FSI and other say there will be the new 3.6 VR6 (FSI??). <p>Audi reduced the offroad possibilities in comparison to the Touareg. That makes the Q7 about 50 kg lighter than a Touareg with the same engine.

JBlair
06-28-2005, 10:37 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> It's still lighter isn't it? just like all the others (BMW, MB, INFINITI, VOLVO...........) </TD></TR></TABLE><p>None of those you named, save for the MB and Porsche (the Cayenne comes with AWD, but not the heavy duty stuff), come with any substantial AWD system. XDrive was panned for hard use by just about everybody, and Volvo and Infiniti's systems (like BMW) are mainly inclimate weather systems.

SELLER
06-28-2005, 11:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Have you ever heard about the Cayenne? Cayenne-250hp Cayenne S-340hp Cayenne Turbo-450hp Cayenne Turbo S-500hp.... and the turbos have more torque than the naturally aspirated V10 from the Q7.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Marketing your vehicle with a "V10" will forever be more exciting than saying "Twin Turbo V8"<p>I understand the Cayenne Turbo has more torque... but it would do that car well if they adopted the CGT's V10. Would bring it more up-market.. where Porsche deserves to be.

AM2
06-28-2005, 12:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OA4E</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Audi reduced the offroad possibilities in comparison to the Touareg. That makes the Q7 about 50 kg lighter than a Touareg with the same engine. </TD></TR></TABLE><br><IMG SRC="http://img113.echo.cx/img113/8562/q7touareg6xy.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>The Q7 has a longer wheelbase to accomodate 3rd row seating, it has a 118.3in wheelbase vs the Touareg's 112.4in wheelbase.<br>I guess its not that bad if Audi managed to get the weight down to match that of the shorter Touareg.

JBlair
06-28-2005, 12:22 PM
The longer Q7 will weigh less than Touareg, and I actually believe that its offroad capability is close to the Touareg but with lighter AWD equipment.

Tidal
06-28-2005, 01:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The longer Q7 will weigh less than Touareg, and I actually believe that its offroad capability is close to the Touareg but with lighter AWD equipment. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Touareg is actually pretty good offroad, i think one of the main reasons Audi has " downgraded " the Q7 AWD system is because it is much more focused on the " road " part instead of the " off " part, more like a crossover instead of an SUV.<br>

jro4566
06-29-2005, 11:59 AM
OK, I've changed my official stance on this vehicle after looking at it. It's now OK with me, but not thrilling. Plus, Audi's latest rankings in JDPower's VDS aren't so hot.

erzhik
06-29-2005, 01:06 PM
the only thing left is see the car in real life.

IcedG35
06-29-2005, 06:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, I've changed my official stance on this vehicle after looking at it. It's now OK with me, but not thrilling.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well thank G-d because I didn't know if we could continue without your approval <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> I agree, this thing is definitely growing on me now that the pictures are showing something more along the lines of an SUV than an overgrown wagon. i really don't think the trunk will be pretty though, although it may prove to be very practical.

Comrade
07-02-2005, 10:11 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only thing left is see the car in real life. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>I hope this vehicle doesn't look like a wagon on real life. But I think the sheer size of it tells me I won't think "wagon". We need to see the interior before we see it in real life. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> I don't like Audi stretching this press realease over 5 months.<p>I don't why anyone would complain about this car's weight. It's bigger than any of the other SUV mentioned in this thread. Most of the weight went into the vehicle's structure to make it stonger which is a benefit in many ways.

erzhik
07-02-2005, 11:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I hope this vehicle doesn't look like a wagon on real life. But I think the sheer size of it tells me I won't think "wagon". We need to see the interior before we see it in real life. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> I don't like Audi stretching this press realease over 5 months.<p>I don't why anyone would complain about this car's weight. It's bigger than any of the other SUV mentioned in this thread. Most of the weight went into the vehicle's structure to make it stonger which is a benefit in many ways. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>oh yeah, totally forgot about the interior <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
07-02-2005, 12:34 PM
no problem, just ask <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://img92.echo.cx/img92/849/audiq7watermerk4ym.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img92.echo.cx/img92/849...m.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img293.echo.cx/img293/8042/audiq7watermerk13kf.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img293.echo.cx/img293/8...f.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img134.echo.cx/img134/5238/audiq7watermerk27cf.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img134.echo.cx/img134/5...f.jpg</A><br>source autoweek.nl<br>found at <A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be</A>

erzhik
07-02-2005, 01:29 PM
the interior looks NICE..thankz for pics :)

LEXUS FAN!
07-02-2005, 01:32 PM
the interior looks awesome

IcedG35
07-02-2005, 02:40 PM
The rear pic is the only angle of this car that seems to giveaway its tourag cayenne roots

Comrade
07-02-2005, 10:24 PM
Thanks Rik!<p>Where's the wood ? No wood in the interior? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

erzhik
07-02-2005, 10:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Rik!<p>Where's the wood ? No wood in the interior? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah, I don't see any wood either. hopefully they will put some when it will be closer to production <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
07-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Now thats what i call an interior!!! OMG, it looks much better than even the A6 IMO...very profesional and simple. From everything i can see, Audi have a winner on their hands. But those inside door handles, ar, um weird looking...what im afraid of is the back, very rounded rear window, but IMO the rear lights look great!

Reppu
07-02-2005, 11:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Yeah, I don't see any wood either. hopefully they will put some when it will be closer to production <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Have you been inside an A6 lately?. Audi uses the best and nicest aluminium trims you will ever see inside a car. Bright and cold to the touch. I love wood in cars believe me, but with this al. trimming you i would not miss it. That does not mean that it will NOT have wood either.

erzhik
07-02-2005, 11:33 PM
well just to clear this out, there is not much aluminium trims here either. soo, we will have to wait till Frankfurt autoshow to see the rest :)

Top Secret
07-02-2005, 11:51 PM
I personally can't see the difference in design to the A6. Sure, the gauge cluster is different, much like the ones the Nuvolari Concept uses actually, but the center console looks exactly the same. <p>To compare: <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040216.002/1090big.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>And I like the trim of the car. It uses no wood and minimal aluminium. Most of it's plastic/leather and I think it adds to the 'ruggedness' of the car. I like it.

Hornbag
07-02-2005, 11:57 PM
The aircon vents look bigger...i have never been a fan of the driver and passenger vents on the A6, so i supose these un-rectangular vents make the inside for me, also the A6 unit looks kinda cramped, with the height advantage the Q7 looks more spaced out and clearer...

Comrade
07-03-2005, 09:10 AM
This is the 2nd car designed with the new grill, the rest was just facelifts. With first one, the A6, Audi started make the center console lean towards the driver. This is the second one with this driver oriented design and I'd rather see more symmetrical A8-style interiors. I think Audi is limiting themselves if they keepp going with this design. They need to offer variety IMO. The space beetween the front of the dash and the window is huge, this is common in minivans not SUVs. The rest of the car looks good, maybe a dark color would suit better.<p>I agree with whoever said the rear looks too rounded.

erzhik
07-03-2005, 12:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the 2nd car designed with the new grill, the rest was just facelifts. With first one, the A6, Audi started make the center console lean towards the driver. This is the second one with this driver oriented design and I'd rather see more symmetrical A8-style interiors. I think Audi is limiting themselves if they keepp going with this design. They need to offer variety IMO. The space beetween the front of the dash and the window is huge, this is common in minivans not SUVs. The rest of the car looks good, maybe a dark color would suit better.<p>I agree with whoever said the rear looks too rounded.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well that huge space between the window and front of the dash is very typical for Audi. They have it in most of their cars. I personally love the way they leave so much space. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
07-03-2005, 10:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the 2nd car designed with the new grill, the rest was just facelifts. With first one, the A6, Audi started make the center console lean towards the driver. This is the second one with this driver oriented design and I'd rather see more symmetrical A8-style interiors. I think Audi is limiting themselves if they keepp going with this design. They need to offer variety IMO. The space beetween the front of the dash and the window is huge, this is common in minivans not SUVs. The rest of the car looks good, maybe a dark color would suit better.<p>I agree with whoever said the rear looks too rounded.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That was me!<p>And i do kinda agree with you in the way you say all Audis look the same. Although technicly none of them are identical, but it is getiing too commen in the way all the fronts look. Sure having the grille the same is ok, but the whole front doesnt need to look the same IMHO...still it is a very nice front so why not use it again?

IcedG35
07-05-2005, 07:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I agree with whoever said the rear looks too rounded.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree. It works on the FX45 but for such a big SUV that isn't the crossover that the FX is, this is a little less bold than expected, especially with that front end. Hopefully final pics will change my opinion.

StevenZoz
07-21-2005, 07:22 PM
US pricing?

DSC-OFF
07-22-2005, 06:47 AM
<IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/74126.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><I>Tuerkis must be the Q7, then klappt's also with <b>Elton John: The British Popstar booked the new SUV in advance from Ingolstadt</b> already times.<p>Promis obviously fly on the first AUDISUV: Sir Elton John would like the brand-new Q7 in schillerndem Tuerkis, completely as the study Pikes peak. The singer is supplied by the Ingolstaedtern with highest priority. One however still stands before it: Prince Charles. Which color the British successor to the throne prefers, AUDI did not betray. King-blue perhaps?</I><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=9213" TARGET="_blank">Autobild</A>

Santeno
07-22-2005, 07:30 AM
??? - so elton john convinced audi to let him use the prototype for the Q7 (seeing as that is what is parked behind him)?

DSC-OFF
07-22-2005, 07:47 AM
I think the article says that he placed an order for a Q7 and will be one of the first to get one...perhaps hes in Ingolstadt just to view the car...the concept...quite possibly its all press...what i dont get is why hes standing next to Plcido Domingo, and Luciano Pavarotti.

Santeno
07-22-2005, 07:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jesse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...what i dont get is why hes standing next to Plcido Domingo, and Luciano Pavarotti.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You're joking right?

DSC-OFF
07-22-2005, 08:04 AM
yea.....

AM2K
07-22-2005, 09:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jesse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what i dont get is why hes standing next to Plcido Domingo, and Luciano Pavarotti.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well pavarotti has certainly lost some weight then! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
07-22-2005, 07:34 PM
With a fashion sence like that, i doubt giving Elton a Q7 will do wonders for sales...can you imagin the sales campain, "elton John drives one (in his flowerey pink dress)"<p>

Superfresa
07-22-2005, 08:39 PM
Such a nice SUV, pity they limited offroad ability, I thought the LR3 finally had a decent competitor that doesn't look Bland (as the Touareg looks IMO). If Land Rover didn't exist, I'd think this car tops the segment. It will still shut the X5 up and the ML IMO, which is its main task.<p>I'd love to see more of the interiour: seats, third row space, and so on, and get a few more specs...

against the wall
07-22-2005, 08:45 PM
superfresa i dont think this would compete with the ml cuz i dont think the ml has a 3rd row seat. maybe this will compete with the gl.

Superfresa
07-22-2005, 08:50 PM
Doesn't the ML55 have three rows of seats? I don't know I'm a little too "not interested" in the ML to know... However, despite seating capacity, I think they could still be in the same category (performance, price and so on will make them compete each other, and some people may not need 3 rows but wouldn't mind having them so they could consider both cars)

against the wall
07-22-2005, 08:53 PM
the previous gen 2004-05 ml had the 3rd row seat but u cant really fit back there. im 5'1" and i was very crammed. my aunt has one.

Superfresa
07-22-2005, 09:06 PM
Still has third row... Most SUVs with 7/8 seats are like that. That's why I'd like to see how it's like in the Q7

Hornbag
07-23-2005, 02:55 AM
The new ML though doesnt have 7 seats. The bigger square one (G wagon replacement) replaced the 7 seat M class.

Omar
07-23-2005, 07:45 AM
the current ML (still on sale in Europe till end of August) does have an option of 7 seats, albeit at the expense of the boot

Krypton
07-23-2005, 08:00 AM
we have the 7 passenger ML and the with the seats theirs about as much room in the boot as a minivan. Only problem with the whole thing is ease of use, youll be sweating by the end ofthe transformation

DSC-OFF
07-23-2005, 08:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't the ML55 have three rows of seats? I don't know I'm a little too "not interested" in the ML to know... However, despite seating capacity, I think they could still be in the same category (performance, price and so on will make them compete each other, and some people may not need 3 rows but wouldn't mind having them so they could consider both cars)</TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG SRC="http://carad.ebayimg.com/i5/02/a/03/42/b0/54_4.JPG" BORDER="0"><p>The third-row seat on the W163 ML55 wasnt an option, it was an accessory, was an option for the 320-350-430-500. Pre-2002s were rear-facing, post-2002s were front-facing as shown on the photo. And like bonzo's montreaux said it was very tight, i felt like tuna in a can in my bestfriends ML350 3rd row, probably why he sold the seat. And access to them was even more terrifying than in Isuzus MU-7.

Superfresa
07-23-2005, 09:45 AM
But isn't it pretty much the same (Space wise) In cars like the VolvoXC90, and a few others?<p>Anyway, even if it's only a 5 seater, I reckon it would still compete in that category, because I imagine many people don't care about the third row of seats but don't mind having it either, making both options of purchase, as I said before, so still I maintain that it's a potential competition.

Comrade
07-23-2005, 07:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jesse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[img]http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/74126.jpg[/no img]<p><I>Tuerkis must be the Q7, then klappt's also with <b>Elton John: The British Popstar booked the new SUV in advance from Ingolstadt</b> already times.<p>Promis obviously fly on the first AUDISUV: Sir Elton John would like the brand-new Q7 in schillerndem Tuerkis, completely as the study Pikes peak. The singer is supplied by the Ingolstaedtern with highest priority. One however still stands before it: Prince Charles. Which color the British successor to the throne prefers, AUDI did not betray. King-blue perhaps?</I><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=9213" TARGET="_blank">Autobild</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>This sure has something to do with Q7 Globe saying <I>princely panoramas</I> next to the Comfort link. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
07-24-2005, 12:34 AM
But the new M class doesn't have a 3rd row of seats...and the Q7 therefore doesnt compair with it...

Top Secret
07-24-2005, 06:06 AM
Yes it does. It's of similar size, targeted for the same demographic, built for similar purposes, belongs in the same segment; that being luxury SUV's and will offer similar engine choices...I could go on.<p>So it doesn't have two or three extra seats. So what? They're both still comparable.

IcedG35
07-24-2005, 09:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes it does. It's of similar size, targeted for the same demographic, built for similar purposes, belongs in the same segment; that being luxury SUV's and will offer similar engine choices...I could go on.<p>So it doesn't have two or three extra seats. So what? They're both still comparable.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it would depend on whethor or not the ML is considered a fullsize SUV, which i don't think it is. THe AUdi definitely will be, so the GL, not the ML, will compete in the Full-Size luxury SUV segment.

autoindx
08-01-2005, 11:49 PM
*yawn*<p>This timme it is Summer testing. Audi is playing this marketing games, which IMHO is silly. Either show some good pics, or no pictures, but these semi-clad, official spy shots are boring.<br>There are 16 pictures published, here are some of the interesting.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/sa/q7.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/sa/q71.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/sa/q72.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/sa/q73.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/sa/q74.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Text is the usual blah-blah about how rigorous is the testing...<p>Regards,<br>Pal

scorpio14
08-02-2005, 01:44 AM
IM loving this car the more i c it... cant wait till its in the showrooms... i hope it at the Australian Motor Show at the end of the year...

erzhik
08-02-2005, 11:29 AM
that first pic looks so HOT!!!!!

drugmirko
08-02-2005, 12:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>autoindx</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*yawn*<p>There are 16 pictures published, here are some of the interesting.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I find these even more interesting <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><IMG SRC="http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/244/q79w0hw.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/56/q78w3xq.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2967/q715w4fq.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5839/q716w8pk.jpg" BORDER="0">

drugmirko
08-02-2005, 12:19 PM
and how about this one? no more red tape <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/03_04_wallpaper_1024.jpg" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
08-02-2005, 10:59 PM
see page 2...thanks though

drugmirko
08-03-2005, 04:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see page 2...thanks though</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I did...all I saw was bunch of red crosses instead of pictures... that's why I asked <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> .<p>I still can see only fiew of them...

Hornbag
08-03-2005, 04:43 AM
Were still looking at spy pictures? Hurry up Audi, but i supose its not long now!!!

tek2k
08-05-2005, 12:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Have you ever heard about the Cayenne? Cayenne-250hp Cayenne S-340hp Cayenne Turbo-450hp Cayenne Turbo S-500hp.... and the turbos have more torque than the naturally aspirated V10 from the Q7.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>a turbo engine makes more torque than an NA engine? no way!<br>still doesn't make up for the fact that the cayenne has polarizing looks.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 9:24 AM 8/5/2005</i>

autoindx
08-10-2005, 05:41 AM
<IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/04_03_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/04_02_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/04_01_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0">

erzhik
08-10-2005, 05:51 AM
that interior looks SWEET.. very nicely organized..

Reppu
08-10-2005, 06:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tek2k</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>a turbo engine makes more torque than an NA engine? no way!<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, it does....it must be this way indeed. For the same capacity and same rpm limit more power MUST come actually from a higher torque value. As you surely know, power is equal to torque multiplied by rotating speed. That's basic physics.

Omar
08-10-2005, 06:48 AM
that middle seat looks pathetic, a child can only just about fit on it, what about fully-grown adults????

IcedG35
08-10-2005, 10:56 AM
legroom looks about the same as a tourag as well. i would've thought that the extended wheelbase would've added room to all rows instead of just teh third row/trunk....hopefully its just the pic

against the wall
08-10-2005, 12:14 PM
i just got my q7 newsletter in my email. the interior is very nice. it has one HUGE sunroof for the front and middle rows and a smaller one for the back row. 3 seating configurations: 5 6 and 7 seaters.<p>for all of u complaining about the tiny middle seat remember the touareg has the same really uncomfortable seat so i would say expect the same thing.

SELLER
08-10-2005, 01:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just got my q7 newsletter in my email. the interior is very nice. it has one HUGE sunroof for the front and middle rows and a smaller one for the back row. 3 seating configurations: 5 6 and 7 seaters.<p>for all of u complaining about the tiny middle seat remember the touareg has the same really uncomfortable seat so i would say expect the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Who is going to want to sit in that small middle seat anyways!!?<p>With a 3rd row AND your own private sunroof, that rocks.

against the wall
08-10-2005, 01:27 PM
they have interior pics on the q7 globe now. its really nice. i gather the sunroofs dont open though. unless it opens a la g6 style with the pieces of it then it probably wont open.

tek2k
08-13-2005, 11:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, it does....it must be this way indeed. For the same capacity and same rpm limit more power MUST come actually from a higher torque value. As you surely know, power is equal to torque multiplied by rotating speed. That's basic physics.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>sarcasm my friend <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
08-14-2005, 05:40 AM
4 seater? Other than being an 4 seater and those aluminium pieces looking like coming from some cheap late 90's interior, it looks really good...

Comrade
08-14-2005, 02:28 PM
How inviting the center seat is, with sharp edges from the other seats and not even the same legth as the other two seats. What a stupid waste of space, instead of producing space for 3 ppl, they make space for 2 and some leftover cushion in the center. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
08-15-2005, 06:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How inviting the center seat is, with sharp edges from the other seats and not even the same legth as the other two seats. What a stupid waste of space, instead of producing space for 3 ppl, they make space for 2 and some leftover cushion in the center. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats probably because its a pass through to the third row <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Comrade
08-15-2005, 07:21 PM
would be a better pass through w/out the seat in the middle... like in minivans. So it folds to the side or something? I hope they make a optional configuration that looks something like the Touareg's with a 40/60 split:<br> <A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/albums//Volkswagen/Touareg/Touareg%20(European)/055.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com/galler...5.jpg</A> <br>I think it's easier to access the back this way:<br> <A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/albums//Volkswagen/Touareg/Touareg%20(European)/053.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com/galler...3.jpg</A> <br>But maybe it isn't, I don't know...<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Comrade at 9:30 PM 8/15/2005</i>

Comrade
08-16-2005, 08:26 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/003__scaled_600_033_001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/002__scaled_600_037_001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Article and picture gallery: <A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/audi_news/article_1488.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com/artman...shtml</A> <br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Comrade at 10:47 PM 8/16/2005</i>

against the wall
08-16-2005, 09:08 PM
woohoo! finally! fully lighted pictures with the real lights. ITS ABOUT TIME AUDI!!<br>looks hot.

Soul Man
08-16-2005, 09:17 PM
it is about time, and i fidn that front end view spectacular, this car really wears the new grille well, and proves how audis can still be quite gorgeous yet not all look the same, BUTT and this is a major butt, that butt is just not so pretty. on the pikes peak it was interesting, clean, and different, hear its definitely different and interesting, but in a negative sense, and its not very clean its actually on the verge of messy and looks misaligned with the rest of the vehicle. well thats just my humble opinion, id like to hear soem other views on this car, particularly the rear section, to know if im crazy or not

against the wall
08-16-2005, 09:32 PM
the rear looks kind of droopy and looks like its sagging. the NA version will be slightly different cuz it will have the brakelight on the top and not the bottom.

SELLER
08-16-2005, 09:47 PM
Hot... but bring on the V10.

Soul Man
08-16-2005, 09:53 PM
well i assume you are talking about the chmsl, whick i think even euro ones,etc have, on that i thought that was pretty much a worldly thing for requirement, or the few countries that didnt just got it due to saving money or whatever, because i dont think its opposed. but the lights on the bu,per you are coorect should not be on the american one, but who knows sometimes things happen, i mean look at the montero's rear bumper<p>but that not what bothers me what bothers me most of the rear is where the bumper line meets the hatch, youll see it tips off. to me this just looks sloppy and like an after thought. also that the rear looks very round abd sift, while the rest of the car looks more edgy, which is why to me the rear really just doesnt look great with the rest of the car. plus there is the droopiness<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Dooey at 1:02 AM 8/17/2005</i>

against the wall
08-16-2005, 10:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SELLER</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hot... but bring on the V10.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yea. i got a name for it. the qrs7. audi's goin through the alphabet...lol

LEXUS FAN!
08-16-2005, 10:21 PM
i have mixed feelings about the car...i feel that the wheels take up half of the car...those things are huge<p>i kind of wish the body was bigger and taller

JBlair
08-16-2005, 10:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have mixed feelings about the car...i feel that the wheels take up half of the car...those things are huge<p>i kind of wish the body was bigger and taller</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its bigger than you think, because Audi played around with accent lines and proportions to make it looks smaller than it actually is.

against the wall
08-16-2005, 10:24 PM
bigger? this thing is huge. look at some of the earlier spy pics with ppl inside the car and u will see how big it is. i do agree it could be a little bit taller though.<p>edit: after looking over at some of the spy pics, i dont think it needs to be taller. again, if you look at the pictures with people in the car, notice the window line is very narrow and creates the deception the car needs to be taller. <p>did anybody notice that this car was like, never caught with full camoflauge? all the spy pics only had tape over badges and taillights, thats it.<p>o yea, we should expect more pictures, remember the san francisco shots?

Nuvolari
08-17-2005, 12:11 AM
<br>OFIICIAL PICTURES:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/Q7/Exterior%20-%20EU/001.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/Q7/Exterior%20-%20EU/002.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/Q7/Exterior%20-%20EU/003.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com</A>

LEXUS FAN!
08-17-2005, 12:22 AM
it is big, but i think in the wrong areas...in a way it looks like a dodge magnum, which has been put on 22" and raised<br>this sketch of the pikes peak looks especially like that<br><A HREF="http://www.netcarshow.com/Audi/2003-Pikes_Peake_quattro_Concept/0d_imm.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.netcarshow.com/Audi....html</A><p>it is better looking, but it has that idea<p>i like the car...the eyebrows kind of bother me though...wheels areas bother me becuase it seems like they take up a lot...maybe you are right that audi played around with the linds to give illusions

Naga Royal Guard
08-17-2005, 12:27 AM
interior is kinda volvo/saab

Reppu
08-17-2005, 01:40 AM
I like this car a lot, maybe the best Audi since the A8 mkII (the one without the big grille). Only a couple of minor things i don't like. The thin light strips in the rear bottom are completely out of place, and the side mirrors are just enormous. They look so huge in such a huge car itself, they must really be mammoth-size.<p>I really don't see the point of making a car that big, apart from being heavier, with less offroad capabilities and higher fuel consumption. Mostly when interior space does not seem to be any bigger than the one in the Touareg.

Gian86
08-17-2005, 02:23 AM
Whoa!!!! Many Audi fans have been waiting for long time since it invented quattro AWD in 1980. This is the real 4wd from Audi and Q7 could have quattro system in the future. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>For me, i love it. Audi's Q7 has many Audi's next signatures including rear lighting from few concepts couple of years ago. Now Audi's Trademark, the audi grille is getting more better for me with is the best new grille i've saw for long time, not the new subaru one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

bm88
08-17-2005, 05:18 AM
<FONT SIZE="4">Official Information</FONT><p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/news/2050817.001/2050817.001.1L.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050817.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/n...7.001</A>

against the wall
08-17-2005, 09:26 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103011" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103011</A><p>with the lights on the whole front area looks very, very.............................................. .......colorful.

carmaniac
08-17-2005, 09:58 AM
I love it. It's the most handsome SUV I've seen to date.

anonms
08-17-2005, 10:08 AM
The rear end looks like it's been squashed by some giant stepping on it.

V10
08-17-2005, 10:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carmaniac</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love it. It's the most handsome SUV I've seen to date.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I wouldn't call this a SUV, it is rather an MPV on high heels (or rather boots) ;-)

DoMiNo
08-17-2005, 10:24 AM
I really, really dislike the rear lamps. I was hoping for a little more of an A3 look.

Designo
08-17-2005, 01:04 PM
I have no idea what Audi did to the Touareg/Cayenne idea, but <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I too was expecting more of an A3/A4/A6 styling. The front looks fine, but the side profile and especially the rear look unappealing (the rear is absolutly hideous; looks like it's been squashed). Before the unveiling of official pictures, I thought the Q7 would more resemble a Pacifica-like design, and after seeing these pics, I'm now convinced. I just find the styling a little odd and plain, after the Touareg and Cayenne. <p>However, in typical Audi fashion, the interior is immaculate and gorgeous, and for that I am thankful (the only area I find where it surpasses it's VW/Porsche siblings) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Omar
08-17-2005, 01:14 PM
have these been posted yet?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2005/0822/audiq7_interior1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2005/0822/audiq7_interior2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: Autoweek

against the wall
08-17-2005, 01:21 PM
yea i posted a link earlier on the page.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103011" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103011</A><p>with the lights on the whole front area looks very, very.............................................. .......colorful.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i just realized something. the wooden shift knob doesnt really go with the rest of the interior cuz it looks like the only wood piece in the interior. i bet theres probably gonna b a wooden interior trim where the wooden knob would go better.

Redline
08-17-2005, 01:28 PM
It looks nice, though it really shows how big it is. Still, it should be a big hit with the soccermom crowd. It should end up being one of the most popular over-glorified station wagons on the market.

taskbearer
08-17-2005, 01:41 PM
I like it, but not that much nonetheless, the interior is spectacular in true audi fashion. <p>I would prefer the allroad to this, IMO it looks more elegant and would still look better than this even without the flash of the concept. <p>Lets see how the market reacts to this and the R-class, but I have a feeling the Merc would fare better.

SV
08-17-2005, 03:17 PM
i like it, but the rear end would look much better if the taillights were about half as thick. the interior is superb though, as it should be <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

erzhik
08-17-2005, 03:57 PM
I like everything here.. But maybe it's because I am obsessed with Audi..lol<br>Now we have to see it on the road and see how big is it comparing to X5 or Cayenne

Designo
08-17-2005, 05:46 PM
I do agree, that the upcomming Allroad concept does look more appealing than the Q7, but I will have to wait to see the Q7 in person.

The Water Is Poison
08-18-2005, 12:51 PM
The interior takes a lot of cues from the Le Mans. Good job.

taskbearer
08-18-2005, 01:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">New 4.2 V8 FSI with 350hp, up 15 hp. other Audi cars will also get it in near future.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>what in the world <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> audi seems to find ways to squeeze every last juice from that engine. I thought they were going join the crowd to bump displacement, but no they just applied FSi and 15hp gain from nowhere bringing the total increment to 74hp since the engine's humble beginnings in the 1992 audi V8.

Comrade
08-18-2005, 08:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>7 speed SMG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">New 4.2 V8 FSI with 350hp, up 15 hp. other Audi cars will also get it in near future.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hey 7speedSMG, Audi's 3.0L diesel is up to 230hp and 500Nm of torque, just like BMW's 3.0L diesel. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>BTW, another interior pic:<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/Q7/Interior%20-%20EU/001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Comrade at 10:29 PM 8/18/2005</i>

SELLER
08-19-2005, 01:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>taskbearer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>what in the world <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> audi seems to find ways to squeeze every last juice from that engine. I thought they were going join the crowd to bump displacement, but no they just applied FSi and 15hp gain from nowhere bringing the total increment to 74hp since the engine's humble beginnings in the 1992 audi V8. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>350hp isnt even CLOSE though to "squeezing every last drop" from that engine.. Remember, the new RS4 is a 420hp version of that same 4.2 FSI.. so They have Atleast another 70hp to gain on top of this new 350hp version.<p>I believe there was a rumor that the S4 will soon get a power increase, to ~370hp, and I'm sure the V8 A6/A8's are not far behind.

Comrade
08-19-2005, 04:34 AM
I'm guessing that's when teh S4 gets the 40/60 torque distribution between front and rear wheels like the RS4 and Q7. But 370bhp is a little close to the RS4.<br>Audi has two different 4.2L petrol powerplants. Hence the Q7 having more max torque than the RS4.<br>

SELLER
08-19-2005, 06:20 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm guessing that's when teh S4 gets the 40/60 torque distribution between front and rear wheels like the RS4 and Q7. But 370bhp is a little close to the RS4.<br>Audi has two different 4.2L petrol powerplants. Hence the Q7 having more max torque than the RS4.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Remember that the RS4 is a limited edition.. similar to RS6 (although I'm sure the RS4 will be built for more than 1 year).. and also, the RS4 has a lot more to it than just Power (as I'm sure you know).. about 200 pounds lighter.. better brakes, better suspension.. plenty of things to forever keep it "Better" than even a "370hp S4".<p>Plus, the RS4 (being limited), wont be around forever... unlike the M3, which BMW sells as many as they can. The S4 is going to need a "Healthy" power bump if it even wants to stay COMPETITIVE with the 2007 M3... eventhough almost everyone believes (myself included) that the RS4 is the true competitor for the M3.. the fact still remains that the RS4 will be limited, not just in volume, but in duration... and therefor longterm, the S4 needs to be competitive if Audi hopes to rack up sales against the mighty M3. (Both the S4 and 07 M3 having their own pros and cons, M3 being more powerful, S4 being cheaper.)<p><i>Modified by SELLER at 6:28 AM 8/19/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by SELLER at 6:31 AM 8/19/2005</i>

IcedG35
08-19-2005, 09:09 PM
looking at that interior shot makes me understand the logic in I drive just a little more. I"m sure half of those buttons on the center console (around the shifter) will never be used. that space should've gone to a cup holder or something so that they didn't have to put that ugly hole in the armrest.

sanbar778
08-19-2005, 10:32 PM
Wow, quite the contrary for me...makes iDrive look more stupid.

Hornbag
08-20-2005, 03:36 AM
This is great! Im so glad the tail lights ended up so cool, i thought they wer going to to massive bulbs! LOL. They make the rear end seem less rounded, so its a very nice design. Im loving the front, and the inside is just so stunning! Those headlights are the best in the world!<p>Overall very great! This just backs up the fact that Audi, well i love them! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

dillinja
08-20-2005, 08:20 AM
i hate the side profile.<p>it looks like an elevated station wagon...

neocheck
08-21-2005, 01:34 PM
has anyway tried to use the mobile downloads(wallpaper, screen saver, films) from the Q7 Globe website ...I tried...but does not seem to work...I dont get any message to download via WAP <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> ...thanks for your help

geary
08-21-2005, 02:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IcedG35</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looking at that interior shot makes me understand the logic in I drive just a little more. I"m sure half of those buttons on the center console (around the shifter) will never be used. that space should've gone to a cup holder or something so that they didn't have to put that ugly hole in the armrest. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, the Audi still has the 'MMI' interface, similar to iDrive. I'd assume all thoose buttons around the MMI knob are 4x4 contols like we've seen on the LR3 esp.

IcedG35
08-21-2005, 02:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>geary</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well, the Audi still has the 'MMI' interface, similar to iDrive. I'd assume all thoose buttons around the MMI knob are 4x4 contols like we've seen on the LR3 esp. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>if that's the case then those buttons should've been put in the MMI thing considering they will probably never be used by most Q7 owners, especially when the Q7 is said to be more of an on road truck than the Tourag<p>also, i hate this trend where there is virtually no wood on the dashboard...i guess its more sporty that way but the A8 to me is a much nicer interior than the A6

Yannis
08-21-2005, 10:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga- Captain Funky</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">interior is kinda volvo/saab</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There is nothing about the interior that reminds of SAAB or Volvo.

Naga Royal Guard
08-21-2005, 10:15 PM
your point being?

[AP]adiweb
08-22-2005, 04:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Yannis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>There is nothing about the interior that reminds of SAAB or Volvo. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Of course there is, volvo and saab, and later also bmw had those driver-orientated cockpit layout like audi has it now. btw, i'm a big fan of this interior layout, it's really relaxing to drive.

T.B.
08-23-2005, 12:34 PM
Unmasked real life pics ...<p><A HREF="http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q2.jpg</A>

Redline
08-23-2005, 01:09 PM
It looks good, but the more I see it, the more it looks like a glorified minivan.

[AP]adiweb
08-23-2005, 01:12 PM
Those new pics make this car look a) great b) loooong c) American d) not SUV-like

polyana
08-23-2005, 01:31 PM
I was imressed when I saw pikes peak concept, i thought they must build it cause it looks so much better than the others, but now i'm dissapointed. They made it look worse, and its all marketing reasons again. They realised that they have to do it 7seater to sell well in America, and now look how much longer it is in the middle than the original. And what the hell are those faceless doorhandles? Where are now the audi's trademark ones which we have seen on the concept? There's more stuff like that if you compare. <br>So, imho, they ruined the shape, they ruined the details.<p>

IcedG35
08-23-2005, 02:38 PM
those mirrors look massive. this car is one that looks better from a lower angle. it looks very slabsided in that red picture. but thats typical of audi to play it safe and in person i'm sure it will be just like the A8, beautiful and sensible but boring, although i still think the A8 is the best looking sedan on the road so i guess boring is OK sometimes.

Comrade
08-23-2005, 02:39 PM
I don't dig the different paint on the lower part of the body, it wouldn't look so long with all of it being one color. They visually made it longer as if it wasn't already a long vehicle. And it's also too rounded from every angle nd every part, specially next to that A4 Avant. The whole front area is small in relation to the size of the rest of the vehicle -that's what makes it look a little like a minivan rather than a tough off-roader. I too am dissapointed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

polyana
08-23-2005, 10:55 PM
Comrade, you said what I subconsciously thought about it, but didn't put in words. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
08-24-2005, 04:31 AM
I think red is this cars colour. Sure its long and low, but personally, its better looking than the X5. The X5 is too high and short (but the next gen wont be i supose, since it has to grow).<p>Im really happi with this car. But the grey red, mmm i duno...just a bit too 'off roader' wanabe

PHYMB
08-24-2005, 12:45 PM
I don't really like the rear of the car, and the huge red reflectors and reverse lights at the bottom of the bumper.<p>I also think there is too much black plastic used on the grill and rocker panels and lower bumpers...<p>It also looks like audi took a page out of MB's book my mixing the chrome accent with the wood trim in the interior on the door panels...

geary
08-24-2005, 09:38 PM
I thought I'd never-ever say this about an Audi since the B7 A4, but this is truly butt-ugly. It reminds me of the old ML in the sense that it doesn't know what car it is.

Yannis
08-26-2005, 11:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>@diweb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Of course there is, volvo and saab, and later also bmw had those driver-orientated cockpit layout like audi has it now. </TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fastenbelts.com/saabcarsonline/NewSaabGallery/2002_9-5interior2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> The air vents are located in an other position and their shape is totally different. The screen is located on top in Q7 ect.<br> Almost nothing common.<p> <IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/04_03_wallpaper_1024.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Yannis at 9:36 PM 8/26/2005</i>

ndjan
08-26-2005, 05:43 PM
That is an ugly place for a single exposed cupholder. For some reason, a single holder doesn't seem to make sense either. Otherwise, it looks nicer, more upscale, and sportier than the Taureq

Redline
08-26-2005, 06:43 PM
It makes perfect sense, mothers always have their kids in the back so its just them in the front as they squander gas in their SUV. Seriously though, this is not the type of vehicle that gets only one cupholder up front. That is kind of bad.

Hornbag
08-27-2005, 01:09 AM
Well where else could it go? It may be ugly, and un-ergonomic, but there doesnt appear to be much room left...

spwolf
08-27-2005, 01:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well where else could it go? It may be ugly, and un-ergonomic, but there doesnt appear to be much room left...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>lol, they call it ergonomic design... cant be that ergnomic with one cup holder. I am sure there are few more somewhere around that cant be seen via small press pic.

autodanse
08-28-2005, 12:31 AM
i know that the vw jetta (at least the last gen) had a cupholder contraption that popped out of the dash. maybe the q7 has something similar, though you would think they'd spend a little to make an extra permanent holder

Hornbag
08-28-2005, 03:47 AM
But the cup holder is where the passenger would normally rest rheir hand? LOL<p>I agree spwolf...stupid marketing, lol

erzhik
08-28-2005, 08:37 AM
I believe that A6 had only one cup holder too. It pops out from the dash. I don't know about A8 and others but I am certain that A6 (not new gen) had only 1 in the front.<p>edit: yeah, A8 has only 1 cup holder too. so maybe this is what Audi does to all cars? <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by somebody..lol at 8:43 AM 8/28/2005</i>

Comrade
08-28-2005, 02:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>polyana</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Comrade, you said what I subconsciously thought about it, but didn't put in words. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE> yeah, it's not a big deal. I think the same way until I look at it long enough and figure out what makes me see a car one way or another. I could go on for lenghts about describing this, like how it doesn't look "robust" as Audi says.. but it would get boring.<p> <IMG SRC="http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0504_bmw3series07_z.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Audi could have at least made a cupholder similar to this one.<p>

IcedG35
08-28-2005, 08:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>edit: yeah, A8 has only 1 cup holder too. so maybe this is what Audi does to all cars? <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>A8 has 2 up front in the center console which is the same as the Phateon, but they're cooler in the Phaeton becuase they are flat circles and then you can push the bottom down. anyway, all those unnesessary buttons behind the shifter should be replaced with 2 cupholders

Audicted
08-28-2005, 10:25 PM
Check out the new photos from JFK airport, thanks to the forums at carlounge.net<p><br><A HREF="http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2161644" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarlounge.net...61644</A><p><IMG SRC="http://members.cox.net/malombardi/audisuv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://members.cox.net/malombardi/audisuv2.jpg" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
08-29-2005, 04:58 AM
Thanks Audicted!<p>When a car can be photographed by a normal person, without the aide of photoshops ect, and it looks good. Well you then know that its a great looking car IMO. This car fits the bill perfectly!<p>I presume it has air suspension, becasue its so god danm high! lol

knicks125
08-29-2005, 05:39 AM
I hope it doesn't go for a ride in Manhattan...I wouldn't be surprised if a ticket is issued for hanging wrong plates <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>On that issue, how are they going to fit any of the US state plates and still look normal?? The grille and the tail is designed perfectly for european plates but i know many of the state plates are more wider (longer in width) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

erzhik
08-29-2005, 09:37 AM
The car looks amazing on real pictures. It looks like it is higher than that ML that's behind it. Really nice looking car...

Audicted
08-29-2005, 10:45 PM
Wow, carlounge.net is a pretty nice site! (not knocking this site, of course)<p>Here are some more Q7 photos I dug up from their forum:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

Hornbag
08-30-2005, 12:19 AM
Is that last photo, the resemblence of it and the A4's rear end is so close!

Audicted
08-30-2005, 12:22 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/uploads/4905/q2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://members.cox.net/malombardi/audisuv2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>If you look closely, you can see how the red Q7 looks like it's shaped to hold a US license plate, while the silver one holds a european lic. plate

T.B.
08-30-2005, 06:12 AM
New real life pics (black included): <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://germancaraddicts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=520&highlight=&sid=e041c87ecbadf02978bafc924d20ff50" TARGET="_blank">http://germancaraddicts.com/ph...0ff50</A>

against the wall
08-30-2005, 08:12 AM
yea, i think the us rear looks better cuz if u look closely it looks like they raised the taillights just a tad to fit the us plate. doesnt look as droopy. it may just be the angle though.

Bern
08-30-2005, 12:10 PM
The square back is for the Swiss market.

erzhik
09-16-2005, 08:04 PM
Looks like many were wrong. It does have 2 cup holders in front, not 1. :)

Gunfire
09-17-2005, 04:11 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea, i think the us rear looks better cuz if u look closely it looks like they raised the taillights just a tad to fit the us plate. doesnt look as droopy. it may just be the angle though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think they raised the taillights (that would be too much hassle and too costly). Also, look at the alignment of the lights with the crease on the side of the car. Probably it's the plate "hole" that goes a bit closer to the bottom rim of the bootlid.... Having said that, it does indeed change the looks of the back of the car. Not entirely sure it is better, tho (probably is a matter of habit as well: I am used to "flatter" EU plates)<p>Oh, and - in the red-version picture: don't you think the front end, with those lights, has something of the Volvo S40/V50?<p>I am not sure I like this car...it looks a bit overdesigned.

Comrade
11-23-2005, 07:17 PM
Q7 S-line:<br><IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/Q7/S-line/001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>article: <A HREF="http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Audi_News/article_1810.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fourtitude.com/news...shtml</A> <p>I like that it somehow looks taller. But that many fake side vents? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

StevenZoz
11-23-2005, 07:24 PM
is there a chance that audi will actually make a "S"Q7?

erzhik
11-23-2005, 10:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a chance that audi will actually make a "S"Q7?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>well I think they will and they should. Mercedes has their AMG, so I think Audi will have to make them.

StevenZoz
11-23-2005, 10:55 PM
that's true; i didn't even realize that.

Comrade
11-24-2005, 07:48 AM
I also think they should have an SQ7 (or QS7, which sounds better?..or maybe Q7S ?). <br>They already have the good engine: 5.2L, 450HP, V10 from the S8, unless they want a turbocharged engine to tweak out more torque, but the V10 is already close to the Cayenne Turbo and I don't know if their partnership allows Q7 to be as fast as the Porsche. 397lbs/ft from the 5.2 should be planty anyway. They could also de-tune the V10 by reducing the revs a little, so they have about 430HP and the same torque. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
11-24-2005, 11:12 AM
yay a bigger engine, this thing is heavy as it is.

Comrade
11-24-2005, 12:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yay a bigger engine, this thing is heavy as it is.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think most companies who increase their vehicles's engine displacement do it because it makes the car go faster. So the extra 25 kg of weight will be taken care of.<p>BTW, I'm only guessing or suggesting what they could do for power plants.

against the wall
11-24-2005, 09:13 PM
so if this engine just takes care of the weight of the car, then what do the regular engines do? or am i misunderstanding your answer?

Comrade
11-24-2005, 10:29 PM
no the heavier engine will take care of the EXTRA weight(25 kilo's only) that it places on the car. <br>You're saying that more weight would not be good for the car, but the increased power from the heavier engine will do more than make up for the extra weight of the vehicle. More weight won't be a problem to haul.. unless you were initially concerned that the weight might influence something other than the car's speed. handling? fuel-efficiency?<br>

~*~STORM~*~
11-25-2005, 01:35 AM
It should be called the S7 whatever the engine config.<p>Somehow the car for me already looks dated in the red color..looks great in black though

SHEPO
11-29-2005, 03:53 PM
to debut at the essen motor show...<p><A HREF="http://www.mph-online.com/web/prtranslated/00273" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mph-online.com/web/prtranslated/00273</A>

knicks125
11-29-2005, 05:01 PM
Essen started last Friday, I believe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-04-2006, 06:43 AM
2007 Audi Q7 US Pricing: base starting MSRP to start just under $50,000 plus $720 destination charge.<p>Press Release: <A HREF="http://media.audiusa.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9696" TARGET="_blank">http://media.audiusa.com/artic...=9696</A><p>

Comrade
01-04-2006, 06:56 AM
Not bad at all for the 350hp 4.2 model, it's even cheaper than the A6. I assume the 3.6 model with 280HP should start in the lower $40K price range. Good pricing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
01-04-2006, 08:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not bad at all for the 350hp 4.2 model, it's even cheaper than the A6. I assume the 3.6 model with 280HP should start in the lower $40K price range. Good pricing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>i doubt it, since they still have a lot of optional stuff... I dont see it less than 47k with leather. Add DVD nav and few more things, and V8 is almost in 60's. Still, pricing is competitive...

tobajara
01-08-2006, 02:56 AM
<A HREF="http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=2219949" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=2219949</A><p>The Q7 is fitted with a 3,7 littre petrol engine.

erzhik
01-24-2006, 05:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> * Power boost for 3.0 V6 TDI to 210 kW/285 bhp<br> * 22 inch wheels and electronically lowered suspension<br> * Various body kits and exhaust systems in preparation<p>The Audi Q7, a "third generation" SUV, has yet to be launched on the market. Those who have ordered one still a have a few weeks to wait. Future Q7 owners can use this waiting time, however, to arrange an appointment with Audi customising specialist JE DESIGN in Leingarten, Germany. This tuning specialist has namely not been idling since the presentation of the Q7 and already has a few modifications up its sleeve for this muscle car from Ingolstadt. Further conversion measures have already been firmly decided.<p>For the 3 litre V6 TDI, JE DESIGN is offering a power boost by means of a modified engine management system. The standard data of 171 kW/233 bhp and 500 Nm are being pushed up by the Audi specialists to 210 kW/285 bhp and 550 Nm, thus lending this powerful super ship greater supremacy. For example, the top speed goes up from 210 to 219 km/h. The acceleration from 0-100 km/h is improved from 9.1 to 8.4 seconds. These modifications also of course include a TV parts certificate. Customers also need not be concerned about complying with EE regulations.<p>Also available on time for the market launch are wheels in up to a 10 x 22 inch design with size 295/30 R 22 tyres in addition to an electronic lowering system for the Q7s air suspension.<p>Currently in preparation is a comprehensive, customised styling suite with headlight covers, a front spoiler including inserts for twin headlights, as well as side sills and a rear apron plus various sports exhaust systems. The highlight of the JE DESIGN conversions will be (as already known from the JE DESIGN Touareg) an impressive wide body conversion kit featuring striking wheel arch extensions.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://www.je-design.de/pics/showroom/audi/Audi_Q7/audi_Q7je14.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.je-design.de/pics/s...4.jpg</A><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.je-design.de/en/40_NewsUndEvents/10_Aktuelles/Audi/Audi_Q7.php" TARGET="_blank">http://www.je-design.de/en/40_...7.php</A><br>

The Water Is Poison
01-24-2006, 09:00 AM
Looks like a bad chop

Comrade
02-02-2006, 09:37 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>...DamagedProphet...</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like a bad chop</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I agree. <br>How about the ABT version: <IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Industry_Tuner_News/001__scaled_600_011.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>article + more pics: <A HREF="http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Industry_Tuner_News/article_1960.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fourtitude.com/news...shtml</A>

VexedandGlorious
02-02-2006, 01:37 PM
looks okay..but makes the q7 look fusier then it all ready does

aphophis
02-27-2006, 09:19 AM
<IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=94930" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=94935" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=94931" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=94944" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=94943" BORDER="0"><p>More stuning pictures with q7 you'll find here: <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=91638#" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...1638#</A>

IcedG35
02-27-2006, 10:56 AM
i looks soooo good until you see the back and side

carjunkie
02-27-2006, 12:23 PM
wow, nice station wagon<p>lmao

gawid
03-10-2006, 03:06 PM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=482" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=482</A>

haji
07-14-2006, 08:30 AM
Just check out this body kit...<br><A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/14/tuner-pimps-audi-q7-with-widebody-kit/#more-3375" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...-3375</A>

MGS06
07-17-2006, 07:40 PM
Like the Tourag it needs big wheels to look good. This is a positively HUGE SUV, I was surprised when I saw it at the dealership. Design wise its very Audi-esque, but perhaps looks a bit... melted? Its very tall as well. A S7 or even an RS7 would be interesting, perhaps with a Diesel V10 or W12? The Lambo Engine might be a bit compromised in this sort of vehicle. Should be good, especially with the Supercharged Range Rover, Cayenne Turbo S and the ML63 on the market.

IcedG35
07-17-2006, 08:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ReFlex</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like the Tourag it needs big wheels to look good</TD></TR></TABLE><p>IDK bout the Tourag, but definitely agree with teh Q7 part. Big wheels are the only thing that makes the "tall wagon" look like an SUV, at least from teh side. Theres no hope for the rear, unless maybe you mount a big wheel on the trunk as a spare tire?