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Gian86
02-15-2005, 05:11 PM
<br><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/ford/focus_05/4p/gra/01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/ford/focus_05/4p/gra/02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/ford/focus_05/4p/gra/03.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: km77.com

Krypton
02-15-2005, 05:21 PM
i like this better than the 5 door, looks like a mini mondeo and IMO i think it looks great

Poledancer
02-15-2005, 06:07 PM
Looks great, much better than the previous one, but if I were Volvo i would be afraid it looks to close to the S40. Not that it will steal it's sales, but it will definetely not help the image. But than again VW has been doing the same thing to Audi for years and no-one cares, it seems...

Charger
02-15-2005, 06:27 PM
This is way better than the US version. Ford is making a big mistake not bringing the updated Focus to the US. Am I right that they are not bringing it here, at least not yet?

JBlair
02-15-2005, 06:41 PM
These pics have been out since the Focus hatch was unveiled.

Charger
02-15-2005, 06:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">These pics have been out since the Focus hatch was unveiled. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Well, sure shows how much I pay attention to ford <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

KebabGud
02-15-2005, 06:48 PM
thats no ford its a VW ..<br>or is it??<br>hmmm<br>

Soul Man
02-15-2005, 06:59 PM
this and the milan share a similar styling direction, so i have an idea why not bring this here as a mercury (bring it only in well equipped trims) and market it as more than a focus and less than an s40, bu tnot as sporty as a 3. they could put it up with higherend 3's, which offer leather navi, and xenon's. just a thought

Gian86
02-15-2005, 07:18 PM
JBlair's right,<br>i found these pics from this link about 2005 Geneva motor show:<p><A HREF="http://www.km77.com/reportajes/salones/ginebra2005/texto.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.km77.com/reportajes...o.asp</A><p>This article about Ford Focus sedan was posted since late last september.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Gian05 at 1:04 PM 2/16/2005</i>

bolita
02-16-2005, 07:08 AM
I liked it last September and like even more now...<p>This looks really good and I hope that this is the next Argentinean Focus and not the US one... I dont care about the platform just the skin! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
02-16-2005, 04:40 PM
I'll admit I like this much more than the new Cobalt, which is a great car BTW. Too bad Ford is stubborn about not offering this in the U.S.

ToronadoGT
02-16-2005, 05:07 PM
Ford needs this car in the U.S. Simple fact. The current Focus has been in the U.S. since 1999 and it's showing its age, even with a facelift and upgraded interior.<p>I like the styling; much more mature than Ford's kooky "New Edge" styling. That styling was just about as nuts as the shift-on-the-fly 4WD Tempo they offered in the U.S. in the early 80s.

knicks125
02-16-2005, 06:35 PM
exactly my first thought...looks almost like a carbon copy of the previous (current) jetta - not the one that's going to be released soon <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>but it looks nice...it's too bad it's not coming to the US...

Naga Royal Guard
02-16-2005, 06:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, sure shows how much I pay attention to ford <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah i agree <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
02-16-2005, 11:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>anorexorcist</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ford needs this car in the U.S. Simple fact. The current Focus has been in the U.S. since 1999 and it's showing its age, even with a facelift and upgraded interior.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well within the first year in Australia (2002-2003) it looked great, then all of a sudden it aged so much and even the journalists couldnt see past the bad quality, even when dynamics were class leading.

spwolf
02-17-2005, 11:34 AM
looks goodie for an hatchback based sedan... I like it.<br>Definetly the best looking car in its class in Europe...

ricerammer
02-17-2005, 02:12 PM
that looks great. I would gladly take one.

knicks125
02-17-2005, 02:21 PM
you might well just get a Jetta...don't get me wrong...it looks good, but it's essentially a jetta (previous gen), and for europe only. By the time you get it here to the states, you could probably buy two jettas, plus the depreciation is probably lower on the jetta

Shomare
02-17-2005, 04:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you might well just get a Jetta...don't get me wrong...it looks good, but it's essentially a jetta (previous gen), and for europe only. By the time you get it here to the states, you could probably buy two jettas, plus the depreciation is probably lower on the jetta</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Owning a Jetta and a Focus at present time, I doubt that. <p>The Jetta is a lemon and the Focus never fails me.

knicks125
02-17-2005, 06:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Shomare</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>Owning a Jetta and a Focus at present time, I doubt that. <p>The Jetta is a lemon and the Focus never fails me.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Focus (US) is aged and needs to be redesigned, most likely from the ground up, something like this one for Europe would probably turn some heads here in the US <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> although this one is not coming over any time soon and is essentially a rip off of the previous generation jetta, so there is not much exciting that can be said other than it is just an okay car.<p>Jetta is lemon? That is the funniest joke I've ever heard <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> It might be overpriced but on almost every single level it is better than the focus, quality foremost. Unlike the Jetta, the Focus has failed me on many occasions.

hokman
02-19-2005, 03:02 AM
you mean jetta has a much better drive too! (sarcastic)

hokman
02-19-2005, 03:15 AM
I mean why the heck would anyone buy a jetta? You pay almost double the money of focus and you also get the worst dynamics in class. The base 2.0 is unnessarily ancient too, at 110 hp and rough and loud.

-Peter-
02-19-2005, 04:35 AM
Can someone explain to me how the new focus is rip-off of old Bora/Jetta??<p>I cant see it. not even design-wise. the price is better and even the handling and mechanics are better , and they were in the old Focus too.<p>quality is other thing, but still I wouldnt pay the price of jetta to get so dull and bland car, even if it would be the best quality. And I have heard about bad-quality VWs too <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
02-19-2005, 06:07 PM
Exactly -Peter-<p>The Golf V is not quite the quality of the Golf 1V. Althoug better in everyother way.<p>the Jetta is a Golf based sedan? If so do they call it a Bora in Australia?

Top Secret
02-19-2005, 06:32 PM
Maybe the Jetta name was taken in the Australian market when the original came out? An example of that is with the Toyota Kluger - the Highlander name was used by Hyundai and refused to give it away, so they named it after the JDM version.

[AP]adiweb
02-20-2005, 06:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exactly -Peter-<p>The Golf V is not quite the quality of the Golf 1V. Althoug better in everyother way.<p>the Jetta is a Golf based sedan? If so do they call it a Bora in Australia?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Called Bora here in Austria too. There were golf sedans called jetta (golf II), vento (golf III) and since the golf IV they are called bora.

knicks125
02-20-2005, 10:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hokman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I mean why the heck would anyone buy a jetta? You pay almost double the money of focus and you also get the worst dynamics in class. The base 2.0 is unnessarily ancient too, at 110 hp and rough and loud.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>right back at you...why the heck would anyone buy a focus<p>Personally I wouldn't buy either, Jetta is overpriced, and the Focus is trying to be like the previous generation Jetta, look and compare, it is very obvious. If I had to choose between the two I would take the Jetta, it goes faster than a Focus (my friends have tested). But, that's just my personal opinion so you guys certaintly can have your own views if you'd like.<p>BTW, If I was shopping in the compact car class, I would certaintly not get either, I would probably look for something like the Mazda 3 (not the sp23 version - that's like 20k), or Hyundai Elantra GT, both offers value and fun factor <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, both of my current cars can put the the Jetta and the Focus in the dust, although it would take longer aganist the Jetta than the Focus <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

PlatForm
02-21-2005, 08:48 AM
okay,the rear lights totally copy from the Volvo style... but forget bout it.. Ford owned Volvo..

Laguna
02-21-2005, 08:52 AM
The current one has similal rear lights.

knicks125
02-21-2005, 09:02 AM
Other than a few minor details which Ford touched up/changed (which they should've...it's already 2005), tell me if these two cars don't share similar cues:<p><B>Ford Focus</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.km77.com/marcas/ford/focus_05/4p/gra/03.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>2004 VW Jetta</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.vw-lover.com/images/jetta-gls.gif" BORDER="0"><p><B>very unoriginal <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </B>

JBlair
02-21-2005, 09:15 AM
The new Focus is more a copy of the Mondeo than anything else.

Laguna
02-21-2005, 10:52 AM
Only a little bit like the Mondeo.

-Peter-
02-21-2005, 11:46 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Other than a few minor details which Ford touched up/changed (which they should've...it's already 2005), tell me if these two cars don't share similar cues:<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Things that arent similar:<br>Front lights and Back lights<br>Doors<br>a-pillar (door is part of the A-pillar in Bora)<br>B-pillar (black in Focus)<br>C-pillar (totally different)<br>fenders (old focus-style, also seen in Mondeo)<p>similar things:<br>4 wheels <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0"> (how dare Ford copy that from VW )<br>turn-signal<br>

Laguna
02-21-2005, 11:55 AM
Calm down. So what if they copy. Fiat copied Citreon on the C8. They just changed the lights on the Ulysse <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Tidal
02-21-2005, 05:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Laguna</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Fiat copied Citreon on the C8. They just changed the lights on the Ulysse <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Fiat Ulisse and Citroen C8 are the same car, together with the Peugeot 807 and the Lancia Phedra. Their all built in the same factory and are nothing more than rebadging jobs. Oh, and btw, the Seat Toledo and Altea are also the same car, only the Toledo has a bigger hatch.<p>Anyway, this looks like nothing special to me, the new Focus is very disappointing styling wise imo, and this is just another boring car. Mind you, the last 4 door Focus was no beauty either. <p>Ford's designs have become very VW-like lately, that is true, but i can't really see the Focus - Bora resemblance either.

Hornbag
02-22-2005, 12:29 AM
Well both the Focus and the Bora have 4 wheels, 5 seats, have an engine, and yeah, dats about it. Oh, they both have 4 doors as well....