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spwolf
01-31-2005, 10:57 PM
Today, new Toyota Vitz is unveiled in Japan, to be sold in JDM.<br>Most of the details have been known before, here are the new pics... It looks gorgeous.<p>Engines will include 1.0 71hp, 1.3, 1.5 and even 1.0 with start/stop system that improves mpg by 10% (and Yaris had older version of the system 4 yrs ago, just never sold widespread). AWD version is paired with 1.3 engine and CVT gear box.<p>Lenght: 3.750m<br>Width: 1.695m<br>Height:1.520m<br>CD:0.30<p>Interior is full of smart details, back bench can move (as always) and fold back properly, depending on model. Options include navigation, digital air, led 3rd brake light, VSC/TRC, hids, 8x airbags, smart key entry & start, steering wheel mounted controlls, etc, etc.<p>Enough of talk, here are the pics:<br>(obviously some are factory tuned models, best pics shown)<p><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/grade/rs/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/concept/concept/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/dop/package/image/c_main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/customize/vitz/damd/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Unfortunatly, most of the pics on Toyota's page are in shockwave presentations, so some should post more pics of car and interior if possible or you can go to the:<br><A HREF="http://toyota.jp/vitz/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://toyota.jp/vitz/index.html</A><p>for more pics and info.

RetroJapan
01-31-2005, 11:03 PM
<IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67644_1.images/80994.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67644_1.images/80996.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67644_1.images/80997.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: Response.jp

Top Secret
01-31-2005, 11:41 PM
Oh Lordy, now this is a looker - really, one of the select few I actually like from the Toyota stable. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

sono81
02-01-2005, 12:02 AM
That waist and windows... It reminds me a shrinked Celica.... And that tailight is odd... I"ll get used to it!

TheJoyof6
02-01-2005, 12:25 AM
The exterior is great but the interior leaves alot to be desired minus the center console.

Hornbag
02-01-2005, 01:02 AM
Somehow, it looks like a Corolla hatch with upside down headlights? I'll take a Jazz anyday, but i think Toyota is at least finally moving in a good direction as it looks stylish.

Top Secret
02-01-2005, 01:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TheJoyof6</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The exterior is great but the interior leaves alot to be desired minus the center console. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Don't be so harsh - it's meant to be a small, cheap city car; of course it won't have the best design or quality; none of the small city cars have good-looking or good-quality interiors.

Gian86
02-01-2005, 01:34 AM
I'm very sure toyota australia will decide this car as echo replacement here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Top Secret
02-01-2005, 01:48 AM
I damn well hope so. Anyway, anyone heard of a three-door version of the Vitz or even a Sedan version?

the1
02-01-2005, 02:36 AM
WOW! OMG! I love it. It's a beauty. And the interior is great too. I wonder how much will it cost, compared to the current one. I hope they won't make it more expensive.

scorpio14
02-01-2005, 02:53 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Gian05</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm very sure toyota australia will decide this car as echo replacement here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>This will replace the Echo in Australia no doubt about that...and its being launched here (in Austalia) at the Australian International Motor Show (Sydney) along with the All-New Rav4.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I damn well hope so. Anyway, anyone heard of a three-door version of the Vitz or even a Sedan version?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I totally forgot about the 3door version....i think itll come out soon in Japan BUT will be launched in Australia with the 5door hatch..<p>AND u think there will be a sedan version....its not doin well atm so i wouldnt think itll happen....<p>Well anywayz i think the car looks great outside and inside.....the interior should set a bench mark in the class....especially if they have the climate control and "Engine Start Stop" buttom included in the range (in Australia).<p>Hopefully we get the most of the options accessories...such as Sat Nav, Audio control on the Steering Wheel<p>AND also i hope we get all the colours Japan got....i think theyll be popular with the girls...<p>I really hope these rear lights are available on the Sportivo model (RS)<br><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/safety/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>And if the Echo gets all these Airbags standard or optional...in australia...well again i think itll set a bench mark in safety fa small cars...<br><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/safety/passive/image/07-p01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/navi-audio/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>OK enough wit the stuff i like...the rear seats dont look comfortable...we'll have to c<p>

Supremus
02-01-2005, 04:50 AM
Sorry, but I'm not impressed. Looks like a current Yaris/Vitz with a Nissan March face.

whipster
02-01-2005, 05:52 AM
It is uglier than current Yaris. As someone said: "Newer doesn't mean better". Also technology isn't anything special.

spwolf
02-01-2005, 06:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>Well anywayz i think the car looks great outside and inside.....the interior should set a bench mark in the class....especially if they have the climate control and "Engine Start Stop" buttom included in the range (in Australia).<p>Hopefully we get the most of the options accessories...such as Sat Nav, Audio control on the Steering Wheel<p>AND also i hope we get all the colours Japan got....i think theyll be popular with the girls...<p>I really hope these rear lights are available on the Sportivo model (RS)<br><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/safety/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>And if the Echo gets all these Airbags standard or optional...in australia...well again i think itll set a bench mark in safety fa small cars...<br><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/safety/passive/image/07-p01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://toyota.jp/vitz/navi-audio/image/main.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>OK enough wit the stuff i like...the rear seats dont look comfortable...we'll have to c<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think European version will have slightly different styling clues and interior. Few things to notice:<br>- back lights on RS are very similar to the Avensis/Yaris backlights, so they might be standard on Yaris<br>- lot of fabrics on doors<br>- most models actually do get digital air<br>- most models get steering wheel controlls<br>- definetly should be the safest in class, same as old model that was for 5 years the safest small hatch on the market<p>It has to be more expensive than before, although in most countries Yaris now got a lot of standard equipment so it wont be that much more expensive.<p>People have to remember is that this is an "cheap" car, which is why the equipment list is nice. It has some 8-9 storage places on the dash only.<p>It does look like Yaris mated with Corolla and Celica, but thats exactly what it should look like. I can tell you for sure this will be a big hit in Europe. Yaris continues to sell better and better in Europe after 6 years.<p>I will try to find old prices for Vitz and compare!<p>other interesting thing:<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Also featured is an automatic air-conditioner with a pollen-removal mode that, with the operation of a switch, filters out pollen, dust and other impurities from the air around the faces of the vehicle occupants (the first of its kind).<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The "Intelligent Package" (to become available in April 2005) will use the new Toyota Intelligent Idling Stop System to achieve the highest fuel efficiency level within the class.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>

Naga Royal Guard
02-01-2005, 06:33 AM
is the start/stop system an engine cutoff system similar to hybrids?

spwolf
02-01-2005, 06:50 AM
yep... Toyota did one for Yaris in 2001, this is an new and advanced version of the system... It stops engine as soon as you come to complete stop and starts it right away after you move your leg from brake pedal...

spwolf
02-01-2005, 06:56 AM
p.s. pricing is slightly bigger than Passo's and actually a bit smaller than Ist's (xA)... good, good, good!

myredhotcar
02-01-2005, 07:24 AM
Nice. I think I will have to buy one next year (hopefully priced similar to current 3-door.)

ToyotaFreak
02-01-2005, 08:00 AM
Where can I find the wallpapers in the ViTZ site?<p>I'm really lost!<p>Thanks,<p>TF <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
02-01-2005, 08:08 AM
I hardly ever say this about Toyotas, but I am impressed with this car. The exterior looks good and will age well, and the interior is funky but cool. The only thing I don't like about it is that the interior doorpanels look too cheap, and that it probably won't come to the US.

bolita
02-01-2005, 08:11 AM
One thing that really bothers me are center mounted instrument clusters... I guess it is much cheaper to produce LHD/RHD variants this way but <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>In any case the exterior is nice and will probably give Eurpoean minis a run for their money...

spwolf
02-01-2005, 08:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only thing I don't like about it is that the interior doorpanels look too cheap, and that it probably won't come to the US. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>actually, most of interior door panels are covered in cloth, unlike usual hard plastic, so with better pics they are an big plus for this car...

JBlair
02-01-2005, 08:31 AM
Sorry, let me explain a little better. The plastic arm rest (I guess that's what it is), where the switches and door pull are is what looks cheap to me.

RetroJapan
02-01-2005, 11:23 AM
<IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67652_1.images/81010.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67664_1.images/81030.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67664_1.images/81029.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67658_1.images/81021.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67658_1.images/81020.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: Response.jp

spwolf
02-01-2005, 01:15 PM
those pics look sexy!

Andrey
02-01-2005, 04:45 PM
Wow very sexy little car! They probably will bring it to Canada. We hjave Yaris now it's called Echo Hatchback

anonms
02-01-2005, 04:49 PM
If Toyota sells this (maybe as a Scion?) in the US, I will be so happy.<p>I want one!

Andrey
02-01-2005, 04:57 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chibi ichigo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If Toyota sells this (maybe as a Scion?) in the US, I will be so happy.<p>I want one!</TD></TR></TABLE>They probably will cause honda is bringing their little Fit/Jazz model...

Naga Royal Guard
02-01-2005, 05:28 PM
girls would love this car, it would replace the xA well too

Ascariss
02-01-2005, 05:38 PM
I have no objections with this being sold in Canada, I see enough Yaris' here already, so I would be odd for Toyota not to import this here as well. But after a year or 2.

knicks125
02-01-2005, 05:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andrey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They probably will cause honda is bringing their little Fit/Jazz model...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think Honda is going to bring th Fit to NA, to compete with Scion

spwolf
02-01-2005, 05:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">girls would love this car, it would replace the xA well too</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Most of our Yaris buyers have been girls/women, this actually looks a lot more like a car that a man could drive as well.. Of course, in proper color :-).

Tidal
02-01-2005, 06:04 PM
Any news on diesels or a sporty version? there were rumours of a 1.8l t sport. And i too preferred the old one, and think the interiors plastics ( as little of them as there are ) look cheap. But thats not really a change from the old one imo.

Avant
02-01-2005, 06:43 PM
The door handles look like they've been taken from a 2006 Lexus GS300

anonms
02-01-2005, 07:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Avant</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The door handles look like they've been taken from a 2006 Lexus GS300</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm sure I've seen other new Toyotas that also have those door handles. I think it was the Mark X.<p>It's possible that all Toyotas are gonna get door handles that bear a resemblance to that of the GS.

spwolf
02-01-2005, 07:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Avant</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The door handles look like they've been taken from a 2006 Lexus GS300</TD></TR></TABLE><p>like corolla verso in europe... also, dashboard plastics looks like on in Corolla Verso, which is actually hard plastic but looks&feels very, very high quality seen in person... I would be suprised if they put the same plastics in Yaris, remember this is an "cheap" car.

rx330
02-01-2005, 08:20 PM
<IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67657_1.images/81015.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67664_1.images/81028.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67652_1.images/81008.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>compared to old Yaris/Vitz/Echo<p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67652_1.images/81011.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.response.jp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.response.jp</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by rx330 at 7:29 PM 2/1/2005</i>

rx330
02-01-2005, 08:53 PM
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rx330
02-01-2005, 08:57 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chibi ichigo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If Toyota sells this (maybe as a Scion?) in the US, I will be so happy.<p>I want one!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is likely to be the Echo replacement (for USA)<p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200502/01/newcar01/02_b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200502/01/topics07/01_b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200502/01/topics07/03_b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200502/01/topics07/05_b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200502/01/topics07/06_b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.auto-g.jp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto-g.jp</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by rx330 at 8:08 PM 2/1/2005</i>

Top Secret
02-01-2005, 11:52 PM
Isn't that just the Yaris? Or is there something different about it?

Hornbag
02-02-2005, 12:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>none of the small city cars have good-looking or good-quality interiors.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I beg to differ. Mazda 2 has an amazing inside with quality materials, and it looks great!<p>I think the dash design looks a lot like the new Proton Gen3?

rx330
02-02-2005, 12:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I beg to differ. Mazda 2 has an amazing inside with quality materials, and it looks great!<p>I think the dash design looks a lot like the new Proton Gen3? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Proton Gen3?? When is it launching? <p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0202/article67668_1.images/81038.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://www.response.jp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.response.jp</A><p>I find that the interior is much greater than the Proton Gen 2. As for Toyota famous quality, it should better than those found in Gen 2 @ Junk 2. The dashboard in Gen 2 are so plastic (the one sold in Msia), worst than toy. <p><IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_5_l.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_4_l.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_14_l.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_15_l.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_11_l.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_13_l.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_3_l.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0502013585_2_16_l.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by rx330 at 1:45 AM 2/2/2005</i>

spwolf
02-02-2005, 07:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I beg to differ. Mazda 2 has an amazing inside with quality materials, and it looks great!<p>I think the dash design looks a lot like the new Proton Gen3? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually Mazda2 is an higher class car, bigger than new Yaris by 12 inches and with higher price (and looks grew old by now, exterior doesnt look good to me at all) which is why it sells so low.... It more competes with Honda Fit which is also an higher priced car... Both had to introduce lesser models last year in Europe to sell.

rx330
02-02-2005, 11:35 PM
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SV
02-03-2005, 06:27 AM
i love this car. i really hope toyota will bring it here as their next subcompact echo replacement, but something tells me they won't <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
02-03-2005, 10:25 AM
that profile pic looks awesome! Its definetly Yaris shape with Corolla lines influenced by Celica!<p>Does anyone know if it was styled in ED2?

spwolf
02-26-2005, 08:30 AM
just to confirm - new Yaris will start selling in Europe towards very end of the year...

Blackraven
02-28-2005, 05:38 AM
and here is another confirmation.....<p>The Thai-spec Vitz will arrive in Thailand early next year (definitely Q1 of 2006).<p><br>Aside from the petrol/gasoline engine(s) that will be offered, a 1.4-litre turbo diesel is already planned for the Thailand market (already applies to ASEAN market and may also apply to other Asian countries). <p><br>Anyways, the article:<br><A HREF="http://www.bangkokpost.com/110205_Motoring/11Feb2005_motor53.php" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bangkokpost.com/110...3.php</A>)<p>It says:<p>Second-generation Vitz unveiled <p>Toyota's second-generation Vitz hatchback has been launched in Japan and is slated to join the Soluna Vios sedan in Thai showrooms early next year.<p>However, expect the Thai-spec Vitz to share more specifications with the European model called Yaris that will be unveiled later this year.<p>As reported at the beginning of this year, Toyota Motor Thailand is planning to offer a 1.4-litre turbo-diesel engine, making it the first mass-market model to be available with such a powertrain.<p>The five-door sub-compact comes with three petrol engines in Japan including 71hp 1.0, 87hp 1.3 and 110hp 1.5 all coupled with automatic gearboxes. Since the Soluna already uses the 1.5-litre motor, the Vitz can technically be offered with the petrol head, as well as the diesel.<p>While the diesel would be able to achieve at least 25kpl, Toyota claims between 18.6-22.0kpl for the petrol units depending on displacement..<p>The Vitz is based on a new platform, but still features a front strut suspension and a conventional rear torsion beam layout as used in the Soluna.<p>Toyota says the Vitz is even more agile to drive than before, thanks to a new electric power steering in place of the hydraulic type to match the Honda Jazz rival. Minimum turning radius in the Vitz is 4.4m.<p>Toyota claims the Vitz meets the most stringent crash safety requirements implemented in both Japan and Europe. The seats, for example, incorporate whiplash injury lessening.<p>By pushing the front and rear wheels out as far as possible, Toyota has managed to give the Vitz generous interior room. The wheelbase measures 2,460mm, length 3,750mm, width 1,695mm and height 1,540mm.<p>These dimensions explain why the Thai Toyota unit wants the size restrictions of Best Little Car (EcoCar) lifted. The length and width of the Vitz exceed the proposed rules of EcoCar.<br>

thainogkok
03-04-2005, 11:26 AM
yepp,if it's got diesel,it will good for thai people. here in Thailand diesel gas price is a lot cheaper than petrol.

AM2
03-04-2005, 11:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Blackraven</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and here is another confirmation.....<p>The Thai-spec Vitz will arrive in Thailand early next year (definitely Q1 of 2006).<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>So it will arrive in Thailand and not be made in Thailand like the Jazz.... <br>I guess this means the Thai/ASEAN Vitz(Echo) would cost more than the thai built Honda Jazz because it would probably be made in Japan...<br>Another compact hatchback that will cost more than its sedan counterpart? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

thainogkok
03-05-2005, 09:15 AM
until now outsider sill unknow where thaiversion vitz wiil be made but<br> as i'm Thai i have reason why Vitz will made in Thailand<br>1.vitz will be flag car for toyota to compets with jazz and swift in thailand<br> 2.Thailand is fourth largest assembly factory of toyota in the world.<br> 3.if it's come from japan it will expensive and so...can't compet with competitor.<p> sorry(agian) for my english.

thegriffon
03-16-2005, 11:35 PM
The only spy shots taken of a European model looked nopthing like the Vitz and more like the Toyota ist/Scion xA. I don't have any inside info, but I suspect Yaris and Echo will be discontinued, to be replaced by new versions of the Scion xA badged Toyota Auris outside the US, while the smaller Vitz continues in Asian markets. As noted the Vitz is the same size as the Swift (nominally A-segment), while Jazz, Colt, Fiesta etc. are encroaching on the C-segment.

anonms
03-17-2005, 04:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thegriffon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only spy shots taken of a European model looked nopthing like the Vitz and more like the Toyota ist/Scion xA. I don't have any inside info, but I suspect Yaris and Echo will be discontinued, to be replaced by new versions of the Scion xA badged Toyota Auris outside the US, while the smaller Vitz continues in Asian markets. As noted the Vitz is the same size as the Swift (nominally A-segment), while Jazz, Colt, Fiesta etc. are encroaching on the C-segment.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It could be a test mule of the Vitz using a modified ist body, considering that it's Toyota that we're talking about...

thegriffon
03-17-2005, 11:16 PM
That doesn't explain the new name.

spwolf
03-18-2005, 09:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thegriffon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only spy shots taken of a European model looked nopthing like the Vitz and more like the Toyota ist/Scion xA. I don't have any inside info, but I suspect Yaris and Echo will be discontinued, to be replaced by new versions of the Scion xA badged Toyota Auris outside the US, while the smaller Vitz continues in Asian markets. As noted the Vitz is the same size as the Swift (nominally A-segment), while Jazz, Colt, Fiesta etc. are encroaching on the C-segment.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>huh? Is this an joke post or? New Yaris will look a lot like Vitz (99%), expect only minor differences and it has been styled in European ED2 it seems. All of this has been confirmed several months ago.<p>Yaris will not be discountinued, it is the most sucessful European Toyota ever that continues to sell better and better after 6 years. Jesus.

anonms
03-18-2005, 04:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thegriffon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That doesn't explain the new name.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What new name?<p>Vitz? That's the JDM name.

KebabGud
03-18-2005, 06:10 PM
the yaris has 3 names .. Echo, Yaris and Vitz <br>the new Vitz is the JDM version of the Yaris..<br>the Yaris that was beeing tested on the french motorway was a mule<br>Toyota has here already started posting info on there site about the new yaris .. white a funny littel comment at the end "all pix are of the JDM vitz, the yaris will have a tiny change at the front and back" (translated)<p>

anonms
03-18-2005, 07:18 PM
I've realized why those headlamps seem familiar and that has nothing to do with the Nissan March.<p>The Vitz's new headlamps kinda look like that of the Prius...

scorpio14
04-01-2005, 04:23 PM
I got the April issue of Wheels (in Australia)... and they test drive the Toyota Vitz (Called Echo here)... Well in the Article its says:<p><B> "Nobody outside Toyota has seen the new foor-door yet, but one insider told Wheels it will be bigger and get its own sheetmetal. Most importantly, Toyota's not going to repeat the dorky styling of the current Echo sedan"</B><p>So there is goin to be a Sedan... BUT i havent heard anythin about a 3-door version.... whens that dues

Rugbyplaya91
04-01-2005, 04:28 PM
not sure if somebody already said this, but this should be the xA in america imo

Gian86
08-29-2005, 01:47 AM
Official photos of European version of Toyota Vitz, it's second generation Yaris!!!!<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/4778532.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/4778531.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: Autoweek.nl

scorpio14
08-29-2005, 03:43 AM
Those alloys look 14inch whereas the Japanese Spec Vitz has the same ones but are 15inch... Could it be the tires might be fatter hence making it look smaller???<p>Only noticeable difference between the Yaris and the Vitz is that the Yaris gets foglamps with the standard front bumper whereas the Vitz doesnt.

Max Power
08-29-2005, 11:18 AM
Great small car. The front reminds me a little bit about Kia Picanto and the rear reminds me about old Honda Civic.

Nodnarb
08-29-2005, 11:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rugbyplaya91</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not sure if somebody already said this, but this should be the xA in america imo</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree. I don't really care for the current one, but for some strange reason, I really like this. But the Aveo has been improved as well so, the subcompacts round 2?

spwolf
08-29-2005, 12:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Max Power</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great small car. The front reminds me a little bit about Kia Picanto and the rear reminds me about old Honda Civic.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it is very europeanish Toyota, both front and rear were used on previous Toyota cars designed in Europe. I am impressed by Celica influences, front looks really, really awesome. Back is a bit subdued, I hope it looks great live.<p>Cant wait to touch it live in few months.

Dodger
08-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Is this to come to the US early next year?

LEXUS FAN!
08-29-2005, 03:12 PM
<A HREF="http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yaris.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yaris.html</A>

scorpio14
08-29-2005, 03:13 PM
<A HREF="http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_release.html?id=20050829" TARGET="_blank">http://pressroom.toyota.com/ph...50829</A><p>That article confirms it... <B>The all-new Yaris, which replaces the ECHO, will launch next spring for the 2007 model year</B> AND <B>The RAV4 and Yaris will debut in the U.S. at a press conference at the SEMA Show in Las Vegas on Wednesday, November 2. </B><p>Its also gotta picture of the 3-door Hatch version.... and am i glad to c thats there is still gonna be one (whens the Vitz 3door comin out then??)<p><A HREF="http://t.wieck.com/PV/2005/08/29/TYT2005082939210_PV.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://t.wieck.com/PV/2005/08/...V.jpg</A><br>

Dodger
08-29-2005, 06:19 PM
I can't believe this is an entry level economy car. I really like the whole design of this car and the interior is great. The one minor quip I have about the design is the lift-gate handle looks a little cheap compared to the rest of the car. <p>Other than that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

thainogkok
08-30-2005, 01:12 AM
Now it's confirm that Yaris will made in Thailand and will export to other country in Southest Asia( start sell in Q1 2006).<p>P.s. if anyone like to see yaris spyshots at Airport in Thailand please post your e-mail.

scorpio14
08-30-2005, 01:33 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thainogkok</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now it's confirm that Yaris will made in Thailand and will export to other country in Southest Asia( start sell in Q1 2006).<p>P.s. if anyone like to see yaris spyshots at Airport in Thailand please post your e-mail.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>So will Australia be gettin the Yaris (changed to Echo) from Japan or Thailand??? <p>Also the Yaris spyshots taken at the Thailand Airport have already been posted... theyre in the 'Car Spy Picture' section in the '2005/6 Toyota Yaris' thread...

thainogkok
08-30-2005, 03:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>So will Australia be gettin the Yaris (changed to Echo) from Japan or Thailand??? <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>No news on that yet.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by thainogkok at 5:18 AM 8/30/2005</i>

Blackraven
08-30-2005, 06:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>So will Australia be gettin the Yaris (changed to Echo) from Japan or Thailand??? <p>Also the Yaris spyshots taken at the Thailand Airport have already been posted... theyre in the 'Car Spy Picture' section in the '2005/6 Toyota Yaris' thread... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hmm.....odd, frankly the pics u mentioned don't seem to be there at all. <p>Anyways, these new developments on the Vitz/Yaris are interesting.<p>Can't wait for more news.<p><br>

SHEPO
09-02-2005, 02:04 PM
i like it! but does the U.S. only get the 3-door, or do we get the 5-door too?

scorpio14
09-02-2005, 03:52 PM
Im sure u'll get both...<p>But now im wondering whether Australia gets both 3 and 5-door... because our Echo comes from Japan and over there they dont have the 3-door, unless its comin out there soon with the Sedan (Belta)... and we'll get all 3 bodys the same time...

antman
09-02-2005, 03:55 PM
You'd have to think with the new free trade deal, we'd be getting them from Thailand.

scorpio14
09-02-2005, 04:01 PM
True that... again we'll have to wait till the Australian Motor Show to find out

Dodger
09-02-2005, 04:09 PM
I know its a little soon to tell but does anyone know if the US will get the sedan or just the 3 and 5 door hatches?

SHEPO
09-04-2005, 07:32 AM
im pretty sure just the hatches, but i may be wrong...

caarmike
09-04-2005, 07:41 AM
Don't we (the United States) also get the "Belta" sedan version of this?<br><A HREF="http://auto.vl.ru/news/20050829/6075" TARGET="_blank">http://auto.vl.ru/news/20050829/6075</A>/

Dodger
09-04-2005, 12:56 PM
That was my question too. I don't think we'll get any answers for a couple months or maybe at Frankfurt

scorpio14
09-05-2005, 01:17 AM
The sedan probably wont be sold in Europe coz it hasnt been in the past... SOO i doubt u'll getta answer at Frankfurt. I guess u'll have to wait for a Motor Show in America and c if Toyota reveal it there with the Yaris or ask a Dealer

knicks125
09-12-2005, 10:55 AM
New Pics:<p><A HREF="http://autodeadline.com/Photos?Pop=Toyota&Model=Yaris" TARGET="_blank">http://autodeadline.com/Photos...Yaris</A>

Dodger
09-12-2005, 11:36 AM
This is a cool looking little car. The seats look a little uncomfy but it is an econo box. The interior is pretty nice though for a vehicle in this class.

spwolf
09-12-2005, 01:29 PM
Few things to note:<br>- back seats will be both movable (like fronts) and foldable into flat space<br>- pics are of NA version not Euro

scorpio14
09-12-2005, 02:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Few things to note:<br>- back seats will be both movable (like fronts) and foldable into flat space<br>- pics are of NA version not Euro</TD></TR></TABLE><p>AND im glad theyre only of NA version COZ it look horrible from the inside compared to the Japan version... I hope Climate control is not only available in Japan. the NA version makes the interior looks cheap not upmarket like the Japan interior (even when there is no climate control in the Japan one). Y didnt NA. stick to the sterio system thats in the Japan model... with the cover making it look as if its part of the dash... thats suxs IMO... and hope australia dont do anythin like that.

SV
09-12-2005, 04:05 PM
this is a great little car, i love it. i was starting to begin drifting towards honda lately just as far as which brand i prefered more, but the new RAV4 and yaris, along with the promise of a very good-looking new camry, have made me a toyota fan again. great job <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Nodnarb
09-12-2005, 04:12 PM
After looking at those pics and then those of the new Rio and the new Aveo, I'm going to have to say best of luck with this one. I still hate center gauges, those seats look like upholstered benches, and that center stack looks sparse compared to the competition and the JDM version. It might be a $10,000 car, but it is no longer the only good one in the class. They're going to need to up their game a bit.

spwolf
09-12-2005, 05:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After looking at those pics and then those of the new Rio and the new Aveo, I'm going to have to say best of luck with this one. I still hate center gauges, those seats look like upholstered benches, and that center stack looks sparse compared to the competition and the JDM version. It might be a $10,000 car, but it is no longer the only good one in the class. They're going to need to up their game a bit. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>really? eh...

scorpio14
09-12-2005, 05:33 PM
Well if your talkin about Interior Quality... yeah these pics of the US. Yaris are poor compared to that of the Mazda2, Ford Fiesta etc etc and the Toyota Vitz. IMO the whole interior looks cheap they should have stuck to that of the Vitz... i hope Europe and Australia dont make the same (IMO) 'mistake'... <p>Who cares if its a sub US10grand car the any is to be better then the rest IMO and bring out feature that set bench marks in its catergory

Nodnarb
09-12-2005, 06:26 PM
Could you translate that last line, please? I think you are saying something I want to reply to, but can't tell. I'm not picking on you or anything, I genuinely do not understand what you are trying to say.

SV
09-12-2005, 06:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After looking at those pics and then those of the new Rio and the new Aveo, I'm going to have to say best of luck with this one. I still hate center gauges, those seats look like upholstered benches, and that center stack looks sparse compared to the competition and the JDM version. It might be a $10,000 car, but it is no longer the only good one in the class. They're going to need to up their game a bit. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>i think they've upped their game plenty. the yaris is designed to take on the best europe has to offer in the supermini class, i.e. the VW polo, ford fiesta, renault clio III and so on, all of which are at least as good as the new rio. i dunno why everyone's saying the USDM dash looks cheap either; it looks a little more downscale than the JDM version because of the A/C controls (and different placement of the aluminum trim, which i doubt is any different in quality from market to market) but otherwise i can't see much of a difference...

scorpio14
09-12-2005, 06:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could you translate that last line, please? I think you are saying something I want to reply to, but can't tell. I'm not picking on you or anything, I genuinely do not understand what you are trying to say.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sorri about that... first of all its meant to me 'aim' not 'any'... that shoud fix alot. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>i think they've upped their game plenty. the yaris is designed to take on the best europe has to offer in the supermini class, i.e. the VW polo, ford fiesta, renault clio III and so on, all of which are at least as good as the new rio. i dunno why everyone's saying the center stack looks cheap either; it looks a little more downscale than the JDM version but i can't see much of a difference...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Im not sayin they havent upped their game... they have... Fa me its just the choice of Plastics and Fabrics used compared to the Vitz, the feature available compared to the Vitz and the Sterio system... u'd hope thay theyd stick to the Vitz system.. coz aestheticly it goes wit the whole centre console whereas the one in the US. Yaris is one of those 'put in one' (like aftermarket kinda think) and theyve also done it with the RAV4.... if u c the spy shots of the RAV4 (the tiny ones) the Sterio system fits in with the dash layout whereas the US. interior pic. does and looks factory fitted.<p>And i havent seen the Euro. version of the Yaris yet so i dont know if theyre goin US. or Japans. way in interior looks

Nodnarb
09-12-2005, 06:48 PM
Ah, gotcha. But that's just it, it doesn't appear to be a benchmark in the class. I honestly think, as mentioned earlier, the Rio or new Aveo take that honor. And I think the interior has a bunch to do with it. The plastics look cheaper than the JDM and the seats look to be uncomfortable and cheaper than the JDM version as well as those in the Rio and Aveo. It is like they have a good car, but did what the American manufacturers do to us and dumbed it down/cheapened it up for the States. Of course seeing it in person will make the difference, as it does with any vehicle. It is hard to tell such through pictures, but since that is all there is to go on, that is where I stand.

spwolf
09-12-2005, 06:54 PM
reason US gets 2din is because then owners can replace it with whatever they wish, which is popular in US but not that much in Europe (where it will be intergrated).<p>Choice of plastics and fabrics is the same as in the Vitz, no difference. If anything, seat fabrics look better.<p>As to the mighty Rio competition, eh, it will be a while when Accent/Rio become true competition to European B segment cars, including Yaris.

scorpio14
09-12-2005, 06:54 PM
IM wit u man... that y i hope Europe and Australia dont do the same thing and stik to the Vitz in every way BUT the name... wont happen but i can still hope till theyre revealed<br>

anonms
09-12-2005, 07:25 PM
I'm kinda curious why Toyota didn't go with an integrated stereo head unit for this car. It seemed like they were shifting away from 2DIN head units on Toyotas and Lexuses. Oo How bizzare.

scorpio14
09-12-2005, 10:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>anonms</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm kinda curious why Toyota didn't go with an integrated stereo head unit for this car. It seemed like they were shifting away from 2DIN head units on Toyotas and Lexuses. Oo How bizzare.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah and again they also did it to the RAV4... Spwolf u must be right on that though, i wouldnt know though. <p>On the Interior part.... <p>US. Yaris <p><A HREF="http://us.tnpv.net/2005/WKA200509/WKA2005090930627_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://us.tnpv.net/2005/WKA200...v.jpg</A><p>Vitz<p><A HREF="http://response.jp/issue/2005/0201/article67644_1.images/80996.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://response.jp/issue/2005/...6.jpg</A><p>And its not only about the climate control.... just the colour scheme, the black plastic... the transmission area.. looks better then the Yaris which looks cheap wit the greyness, and just look at the Vitz stereo system and speedo guage... <p><br>

rwcmick
09-13-2005, 03:19 PM
what's up with the sedan and 3 door but no 5 door for the usa? i don't think that a 3 door will do that well in the usa. my fear is that the 3 door won't sell well and they'll pull it and say "look, the usa doesn't like hatchbacks" and pull it out. i like the yaris hatchback and would probably get one for the wife to commute in, but i know whe's going to carp about the lack of rear doors (the sedan not being an option due to cargo hauling needs). are they afraid they'll lose xA sales?<br>

spwolf
09-13-2005, 03:40 PM
scorpio - you are looking at top spec Japanese version, which has more equipment than Corolla in the US :-).<p>And materials are the same, it is just that US version did not get pics with backlighted instruments...

spwolf
09-13-2005, 03:51 PM
More pics of Euro Yaris... fantastic.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/yaris/images/02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/yaris/images/06.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/7/82ce773388d6169b60dbcec173cbfc17_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/c491a7ac34c06dddfa75565f633d4f03_1.jpg" BORDER="0">

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 04:16 PM
Those are mad pictures... is the 3-door goin to hava different front bumper then the 5-door or is this a sports model?? and i like those alloys on it (the red one)<p>the third one looks like they upsized the Alloys on the cut-out model... by 3inches maybe.... looks really good<p>ANd the Interior is great... looks like the stuck to the Japanese spec one

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 04:48 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/yaris/images/01.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/yaris/images/03.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/yaris/images/04.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...4.jpg</A><p>Source: Autoweek

Gian86
09-13-2005, 05:21 PM
woh, love that second pic. I'm very sure that's prototype. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
09-13-2005, 05:36 PM
this really is one nice-looking car. the sedan hasn't been unveiled yet, has it? i hope it looks as good as the hatch, since that'll be the more popular bodystyle here in america.

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 06:05 PM
The sedan will be revealed that the Tokyo Motor Show.... and there are pictures in the Toyota Belta thread... the version America gets shouldnt be too different. I think only Japan, America and Australia will get the Sedan.

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 06:50 PM
Its just been confirmed that in Australia... The Echo will be renamed to Yaris and that itll reset the benchmark in its catergory... well there u go. BUT now when the Sedan comes here will it be called Yaris?? I wonder if theyll continue wit 2 grade (Entry and Sportivo) or will there be 3grades like alota Small Cars have (Fiesta, Mazda2) and have an Entry, Sports (Sportivo), and Upmarket (like Fiesta Ghia)<p><B>Toyota is to rename Australias most popular light car. <br> <br>The Toyota Echo will become the Toyota Yaris in October. <br> <br>The car is sold in countries throughout the world under different names including Yaris, Echo, Platz, Verso and Vitz. <br> <br>But Yaris has emerged as the most universally popular moniker, especially in Europe where the vehicle has become a runaway success since the opening of a modern Toyota plant in northern France to exclusively build the model. <br> <br>In Europe Yaris is now the largest-selling Toyota and also the largest-selling vehicle of a Japanese parent company. <br> <br>More than 110,000 units of Yaris were delivered into the European market in the first six months of this year. <br> <br>In Australia, Toyota Echo has been light car market leader for the past two and a half years, having dominated the segment for 27 out of 30 months. <br> <br>More than 10,700 units of Echo were delivered in the first seven months of this year, and the vehicle is on target to sell more than 20,000 in the year. <br> <br>Just as Echo set the benchmark for small cars when it was launched in the Australian marketplace, the new Yaris will reset the benchmark when it comes to smart packaging of style, safety and driving dynamics in this popular category, Toyota Australia executive director, sales and marketing David Buttner said. <br> <br>I believe it represents the rebirth of the modern small car. <br> <br>The European connotation of the name Yaris carries a certain cachet that will increase the cars chic appeal. <br> <br>The name Yaris is a combination of the words Charis (from Greek mythology) and Paris (the world leaders in style and sophistication). </B><p>Source: Toyota.com.au

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 10:11 PM
<A HREF="http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/news_and_events/motorshow/frankfurt_ms_05.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota-europe.com/a...5.asp</A><p>Like on the Hyperlink for Yaris... and u'll be takin to a mini-webiste... pretty awesome stuff and feature info... like 9 Airbags fa top model and more.

Gian86
09-13-2005, 10:45 PM
woww, now it's called Yaris here!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Maybe the sedan could called yaris sedan or maybe only echo. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Looking forward to see those in real model at motor show here next month. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Gian05 at 4:58 PM 9/14/2005</i>

Shrek
09-14-2005, 03:54 AM
2006 YARIS: TOYOTA CANADA ANNOUNCES NAMEPLATE FOR NEW GLOBAL SUBCOMPACT<p>Toyota Canada Inc. (TCI) today announced that it is bringing a new nameplate to Canada: Yaris. This announcement followed the world debut of the all-new Yaris at the 2005 Frankfurt International Motor Show earlier today. TCI will give Canadians their first look at the 2006 Yaris when the hatchback goes on display September 16 at the Georgian College Auto Show. Visitors are invited to the Toyota area during show hours running from September 16  18 in Barrie, Ontario.<p>Named 2000 Car of the Year when it was introduced in Europe, Yaris immediately became a best-seller. In Canada, where Toyota boasts the top-selling subcompact nameplate, Yaris becomes the ideal new entrant to raise the bar once again, and set a new standard in the popular segment thanks to its dynamic exterior styling, roomy and chic interior, precise handling, class-leading safety features and outstanding fuel economy. With its introduction to North America and other parts of the world, the Toyota Yaris becomes a truly global vehicle with widespread appeal.<p>With the new Yaris, Toyota expects to redefine the expectations of owners in this highly competitive segment. Traditionally, subcompacts compromised style and performance in order to provide basic functionality at an affordable price. Toyota listened when target owners expressed their desire of wanting a small vehicle for practical reasons, but not wishing to own "sub" anything. The Yaris breaks free of this constraint and is clearly a subcompact that is anything but "sub".<p>Yaris has enormous appeal for trend-setting owners, who demand a vehicle that expresses their personality without compromising style, quality and handling, said Tony Wearing, Managing Director of TCI. Extroverted and active, these are well-educated, technologically savvy consumers who use their access to information to make knowledgeable purchase decisions based on their unique tastes and needs.<p>Yaris is the latest creation from ED2, Toyota's European design studio, and the first vehicle sold in Canada to be created entirely using Toyotas new Vibrant Clarity design principles. Vibrant refers to the designs energy and innovative character; clarity stresses rationality, the need to keep the design crisp and easy to interpret at a glance. ED2 has thoughtfully expressed Vibrant Clarity throughout the vehicle to create a design with worldwide appeal, and a character that is instantly recognizable as Toyota.<p>The minimal front overhang, wide stance, flowing sidelines and streamlined bumpers result in a uniquely proportioned body that is both strong and energetic. The S-shaped doors are very difficult to engineer but catch and reflect light so that it plays up the designs refreshing energy. The flowing shoulder line enhances the lively proportions, and the forward-leaning rear silhouette creates a feeling of power and stability.<p>The ergonomically designed interior package is carefully designed to provide class-leading roominess in a cabin that is highly functional as well as sporty and comfortable. A number of design elements create a sense of eye-catching quality that is uncommon in the class. A Loop Style Concept creates a visually open space using a light colour scheme that loops from the door arm rests to the pillars and headliner. The centre instrument cluster uses a vertical layout and an innovative hoodless instrument panel design to create a totally unique appearance that is both sporty and highly functional.<p>In fact, the Yaris isnt just great looking; every element has been carefully considered to make it as functional as it is handsome. The unique vertical arrangement of the instruments, for example, also creates more leg room, and the Optitron meters provide excellent visibility. A tilt steering wheel is standard equipment, offering adjustability of driving position for a wide variety of physiques. Rear seating space is best-in-class, and the flat rear floor means three rear passengers all ride in comfort. The frame and fabric of the new seats have been designed to make them more comfortable and less likely to cause fatigue on long trips.<p>Generous rear cargo space is complemented by 12 smart storage spaces within the cabin, designed to be convenient and easy to reach, especially those intended for use by the driver.<p>Yaris will be sold in both 3- and 5-door hatchback configuration, and come in three trim levels including CE, LE, and the sporty RS grade. Furthermore, Yaris is equipped with an exceptional range of standard and optional equipment, and comes in a host of vibrant colours including three never-before seen shades: copper orange mica, bayou blue metallic and blazing blue metallic.<p> Lively and fun to drive, Yaris is equipped with a 106 horsepower, 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder engine with Variable Valve Timing-intelligent (VVT-i) that provides class-leading power and acceleration. Plenty of muscle and torque in the low to medium rpm ranges mean lively response at all speeds, and the engine is mated to either a standard 5-speed manual transmission or optional 4-speed electronically controlled automatic.<p> Maneuverability and handling are also enhanced by a suspension developed specifically to take full advantage of the Yariss new platform. A new L-arm MacPherson strut front suspension and a new rear suspension with a highly rigid torsion beam ensure excellent turning and straight-line stability. Anti-dive and anti-squat geometry suppress changes in vehicle posture during braking and acceleration. Shock absorbers with a newly developed valve ensure smooth damping characteristics and the total effect is a driving experience that can be exhilarating without losing its composure. Not a typical subcompact.<p> Yaris is rated as an Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle 2 (ULEVII), and provides exceptional fuel economy. It is also designed minimize the impact of the total vehicle life cycle on the environment. Fewer materials that burden the environment are used in the interior, and a water-based base coat is used on the body.<p> Advanced safety features include outstanding protection for both occupants and pedestrians. The body was created using Toyotas Minimum Intrusion Cabin System (MICS) that provides excellent impact force absorption and dispersion to minimize cabin deformation during a collision. In addition, the pedestrian-injury-lessening body structure is designed to reduce head injuries to pedestrians. In Europe, the Yaris achieved an outstanding Euro NCAP four star rating, earning 29 out of a maximum of 34 points, making it the safest car in its class. Yaris is also equipped with Whiplash Impact Lessening seats, standard airbags and available ABS.<p> The new Yaris can be customized with several option packages, or by choosing from nearly 50 accessories that can be selected individually to create a totally unique package. Because the target customer for Yaris tends to be highly net-savvy, Toyota will offer them the chance to build their dream Yaris using the accessory configurator at <A HREF="http://www.toyota.ca" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota.ca</A> (available at time of launch), and look at the results, inside and out, from a full 360 degrees. Customers can price their selection on the Price Your Toyota section of the website, and then take this information directly to a dealer, knowing exactly what they want and how much it will cost.<p>Canadian car buyers will get to experience the new Yaris in advance of drivers in both Europe and the United States when it goes on sale here this fall, taking the place of best-selling Echo Hatchback. Pricing will be announced closer to the on-sale date.<p><br>Preliminary Specifications<br>Configurations: 3-door CE hatchback<br>3-door LE hatchback<br>3-door RS hatchback<br>5-door LE hatchback<br>5-door RS hatchback<p>Engine: 1.5 L, 4-cyl. with Variable Valve Timing-intelligent (VVT-i)<br>Horsepower: 106 hp at 6,000 rpm<br>Torque: 103 lb. ft. at 4,200 rpm<p>Wheelbase: 2,460 mm (96.9 in.)<br>Length: 3,825 mm (150.6 in.)<br>Width: 1,695 mm (66.7 in.)<br>Height: 1,525 mm (60.0 in.)<br>Cargo capacity: 0.228 m3 (8.1 cu. ft.)<p>Tire: CE and LE: P175/65R14 all season tires with full wheel cover<br>RS: P185/60R15 all season tires will aluminum alloy wheels<p>Note: All information is preliminary and subject to change prior to launch of vehicle<p>BACKGROUNDER ON VIBRANT CLARITY  TOYOTAS NEW GLOBAL DESIGN DIRECTION<p>Quality, dependability and reliability are the well-known attributes that have propelled Toyota into the front ranks of auto-makers around the world. Now, the manufacturer is adding a new dimension to the list: Vibrant Clarity.<p>Vibrant Clarity is a new design ethos that will infuse future vehicles with a completely original identity and emotional intensity that will be uniquely identifiable as Toyota. The word vibrant refers to the forward-looking, innovative nature of the new designs, and the feeling of energy they impart to the customer. Clarity stresses the rationality in the design equation, the need to keep the design crisp and easy to interpret at a glance. Through this combination, Toyota intends to bring form and function together under the same package.<p>Toyota has always focused on achieving the optimal design solution for each of its many models, but the result has been a lack of focus throughout the total lineup. The Vibrant Clarity philosophy will be used as a unifying concept, to create a clearer brand identity for Toyota, while acknowledging that each product category has its own specific design needs.<p>At the heart of Vibrant Clarity, and the element that will contribute most to making the new designs truly distinctive, is something Toyota calls the J-Factor.<p><br><A HREF="http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t96662.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t96662.html</A><p>

Blackraven
09-14-2005, 04:53 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">scorpio - you are looking at top spec Japanese version, which has more equipment than Corolla in the US :-).<p>And materials are the same, it is just that US version did not get pics with backlighted instruments...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I see.<p>So the one in the pics is more like a Base Model? I see.<p>Btw, I came across this Yaris Configurator (Toyota USA). You guys might wanna check it out:<p><A HREF="http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yourlife/yaris/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota.com/vehicles....html</A>

rwcmick
09-14-2005, 10:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Btw, I came across this Yaris Configurator (Toyota USA). You guys might wanna check it out:<p><A HREF="http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yourlife/yaris/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota.com/vehicles....html</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nice find on the configurator...BTW if anyone else is interested in getting the 5 door Yaris in the USA, I suggest the E-Mail Toyota site. They send back a form letter response, but it certainly can't hurt.<p><A HREF="http://toyota.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/toyota.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=IC2SqyPh&p_lva=164&p_sp=&p_li" TARGET="_blank">http://toyota.custhelp.com/cgi...&p_li</A>=<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by rwcmick at 10:49 AM 9/14/2005</i>

PinzVidz
09-14-2005, 08:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its just been confirmed that in Australia... The Echo will be renamed to Yaris and that itll reset the benchmark in its catergory... well there u go. BUT now when the Sedan comes here will it be called Yaris?? I wonder if theyll continue wit 2 grade (Entry and Sportivo) or will there be 3grades like alota Small Cars have (Fiesta, Mazda2) and have an Entry, Sports (Sportivo), and Upmarket (like Fiesta Ghia)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Heh, trust Toyota Australia to follow the American market. Echo sales were weak in the US, so they decided to rename the new Echo the same name as its European counterpart, so braindead Americans will think "Wow, a new Toyota name". Funny how sales of Echos have gone through the roof in Australia as a result of fuel prices, but they still change the name anyway.<p>Should be at least 3 grades in the Oz Yaris, but I wonder if Toyota are gonna do their usual (erm, cost cutting) thing and not have electronic climate control, push-button starting/smart key and other cool gadgets that the Vitz has got? They did the same with the Corolla - the Ultima is a joke - no electronic climate control, no VSC, no SatNav standard. So the Yaris will probably get the same treatment. Sedans are due early next year and will probably be named Yaris as well.

anonms
09-14-2005, 08:27 PM
It's not really cost-cutting. In Japan, most cars are usually loaded to the brim with stuff because of the way the market is like over there, I believe. Meanwhile, the Corolla and the Yaris cater to a different market in the US (and I guess Australia, as well), since the mainstream subcompact and compact classes have different... standards and expectations.

scorpio14
09-14-2005, 08:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>NewModelHunta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Should be at least 3 grades in the Oz Yaris, but I wonder if Toyota are gonna do their usual (erm, cost cutting) thing and not have electronic climate control, push-button starting/smart key and other cool gadgets that the Vitz has got? They did the same with the Corolla - the Ultima is a joke - no electronic climate control, no VSC, no SatNav standard. So the Yaris will probably get the same treatment. Sedans are due early next year and will probably be named Yaris as well.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah thats what im afraid of myself.... and im also wondering if theyll do the same with the RAV4. Well I srsly hope they dont and at least have these features that the Vitz have (the crazy stuff) and the 9airbags (Euro model) in the top-of-the-range model (like the Ford Fiesta Ghia type model).... in both the Sedan and Hatch. I know if they did all this the car would be better then the Corolla, Maybe Prius, Camry and Avalon on sale atm.... but who cares, the Camry and Avalon will be replaced next year and should be more equipt then the Yaris, and i hear that a facelift could happen for the Corolla and we'll get what Japan are sellin atm.<p>If they do a Corolla wit this car and the RAV4... i'll be really disappointed and if i ever planned to buy either of these 2 cars, i'd want to import from Japan or Europe.<p>I guess we'll have to wait till next month for features of the Yaris... and at least next year for the RAV4.<p>

anonms
09-14-2005, 09:04 PM
Given information on Toyota's website (and the features of its competitors), the (US, at least) Yaris most likely won't have automatic climate control, 9 airbags, Smart Entry and Start, etc. Just optional air conditioning, 2 standard (4 optional additional) airbags, and optional normal keyless remote entry.<p>The RAV4's gonna have nice stuff, though.

MtViewGuy188
09-14-2005, 09:41 PM
I think everyone here forgets that the Toyota Yaris coming to the USA market is designed as a vehicle for first-time and economy-minded buyers. As such, Toyota will try to keep the cost as low as possible, so don't expect the fancy features found on the Vitz sold in Japan.<p>I do wonder will Toyota offer a CVT automatic on the US-market Yaris, though.<p>By the way, I find the rear-seat setup of the Yaris to have unusual flexibility in terms of changing interior arrangements. Toyota must have taken some of the ideas from the Honda FIT....

Blackraven
09-15-2005, 06:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MtViewGuy188</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think everyone here forgets that the Toyota Yaris coming to the USA market is designed as a vehicle for first-time and economy-minded buyers. As such, Toyota will try to keep the cost as low as possible, so don't expect the fancy features found on the Vitz sold in Japan.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Quoted for emphasis.<p>It looks like the model with a speedometer only is a base model. But considering that this the first pics of the US version, could it be possible that a higher-end variant will have the tachometer with it???<p>That's a question that I want to raise, hehe.<p>Anyways, hungry for pics? Here's another set (probably for Canada):<p><IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/echo_hrs/yari1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/echo_hrs/yari2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/echo_hrs/yari3.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/echo_hrs/yari4.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/echo_hrs/yari5.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>From the Toyota EchoFans Community (www.echodrivers.com/forums)

caarmike
09-18-2005, 07:08 AM
The Car Connection says that Toyota will offer one more body style in the US in addition to the three-door hatchback.<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Car_Shows/Frankfurt_Auto_Show/2005_Frankfurt_Auto_Show_Part_VI.S290.A9238.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><br>I'm gussing for simplicity's sake it'll be the five-door hatchback like they have in Canada. However, other possibilities include a notchback sedan (seen elsewhere on this forum as the Toyota Belta) and a small MPV (Toyota Ractis)

scorpio14
09-19-2005, 12:55 AM
When will the T-sport/Sportivo version of the Vitz RS go one sale... will it be the same time as base-models or later?? And is America/Canada goin to get a version of Vitz RS??<p>

spwolf
09-19-2005, 08:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>anonms</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Given information on Toyota's website (and the features of its competitors), the (US, at least) Yaris most likely won't have automatic climate control, 9 airbags, Smart Entry and Start, etc. Just optional air conditioning, 2 standard (4 optional additional) airbags, and optional normal keyless remote entry.<p>The RAV4's gonna have nice stuff, though. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>3 airbags standard, or side airbag package with 9 airbags total I believe...

anonms
09-19-2005, 03:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3 airbags standard, or side airbag package with 9 airbags total I believe...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Standard knee airbag? Hm... that's possible.

nismo
09-20-2005, 12:50 PM
The US won't be getting the 5dr because we have Scion's xA and xB. Canada doesn't have Scions, thats why they get the 5dr. The other body style the US will get is a 4dr sedan(most likely the Belta).<p>I hope our top of line 2dr is like their RS model. Those look good.<p>I like that configurator. I made a nice black 3dr with power windows etc... this should be an interesting car. I wonder how they're going to price it? Maybe $10,900 for base and $14k for a nicely equipped one.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by nismo at 1:05 PM 9/20/2005</i>

spwolf
09-20-2005, 04:13 PM
Yaris will be sold as 5 door in the US as well, lets not assume too much :-).<p>With Toyota expecting 50,000 sales from Yaris, I doubt there will be an sedan version for US OR they will call it something else...

StevenZoz
09-20-2005, 05:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I like that configurator. I made a nice black 3dr with power windows etc... this should be an interesting car. I wonder how they're going to price it? Maybe $10,900 for base and $14k for a nicely equipped one.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>like the aveo...

Dodger
09-20-2005, 05:37 PM
You'd think the 5-door would just be a natural choice as the second body style over a sedan

spannersuk
09-21-2005, 06:16 AM
Just saw the Euro Yaris in the flesh. Great, it even has the rear projection speedo system like the current car (updated a bit) -- not dials. All in all, a great piece of kit - beautifully made. BTW the "gull wing" version is just to show how the back seats slide backwards and forwards, recline (Maybach - style) and fold into the floor.

nismo
09-21-2005, 09:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yaris will be sold as 5 door in the US as well, lets not assume too much :-).<p>With Toyota expecting 50,000 sales from Yaris, I doubt there will be an sedan version for US OR they will call it something else...</TD></TR></TABLE><p><I>"Toyota Motor Marketing Europe (TMME), will unveil the all-new European-specification Yaris three-door and five-door liftbacks tomorrow at the 2005 Frankfurt International Motor Show.<B> The Yaris three-door liftback and another body configuration to be announced later</B>, will replace the ECHO as Toyota's entry in the subcompact passenger-car segment when it goes on sale in the United States as a 2007 model next spring." </I><p>This is from the official Toyota press release for the Yaris. No 5dr for the US. The US is getting a 4dr sedan to compete with the Accent and Aveo sedans instead...

Blackraven
09-22-2005, 06:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And is America/Canada goin to get a version of Vitz RS??<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Canada is automatically getting the RS hatchback. I have no idea though if this is also the case for the US though.

caarmike
09-22-2005, 02:06 PM
USA Today says that at first all the USA will get is a 3-door. The other body style, whatever that is, comes later.

scorpio14
09-22-2005, 02:28 PM
Canada's Yaris RS<p><IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/echo_hrs/yari3.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Japan's Vitz RS<p><IMG SRC="http://www.editorial.carsales.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/52FFEA7F7D23ECEFCA25706E00091858/$file/vitz.jpg?OpenElement" BORDER="0"><p>Japan's Vitz RS will be the top-of-range Yaris in Europe (T-Sport) and Australia (Sportivo)... <p>Canada's Yaris RS, while it has the same interior as the Vitz RS... u can c the exterior is ALOT different, the front bumper, 16inch alloys, and at the bak the rear bumper, tail-lights and exhaust. (there are pics of the rear around in the thread).<p>

PinzVidz
09-22-2005, 04:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Japan's Vitz RS will be the top-of-range Yaris in Europe (T-Sport) and Australia (Sportivo)... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Toyota Australia won't be using the Sportivo name for the Yaris. Unless, that rumoured 1.8 VVTL-i Yaris gets released here - maybe it will score a Sportivo badge. Highly unlikely though, considering they've decided to can the Corolla Sportivo. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
09-22-2005, 04:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dodger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'd think the 5-door would just be a natural choice as the second body style over a sedan</TD></TR></TABLE><p>this is toyota, they still have to master the art of common sense <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

scorpio14
09-22-2005, 04:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>NewModelHunta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Toyota Australia won't be using the Sportivo name for the Yaris. Unless, that rumoured 1.8 VVTL-i Yaris gets released here - maybe it will score a Sportivo badge. Highly unlikely though, considering they've decided to can the Corolla Sportivo. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>WOW where did u hear about the Corolla Sportivo... But then again, the production of the Celica is ending and mostly even the VVTL-i engine will end too. Maybe it wont happen until next year then the next-generation Corolla will have the GT4 as the range topper in 2007.<p>About the Yaris... do u know if Toyota Australia is bring a rebadged Vitz RS here... under any name (if not Sportivo)... i hope they do coz itll sux if they dont. <p>I dont think Toyota will use VVTL-i anymore... so the rumoured 1.8L Yaris must could use a turbo... if it happens.

RetroJapan
09-22-2005, 05:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga- Captain Funky</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is toyota, they still have to master the art of common sense <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>...or maybe they just don't want to overlap w/ the Scion xA <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
09-22-2005, 05:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RetroJapan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...or maybe they just don't want to overlap w/ the Scion xA <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>ive been owned

spwolf
09-22-2005, 08:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><I>"Toyota Motor Marketing Europe (TMME), will unveil the all-new European-specification Yaris three-door and five-door liftbacks tomorrow at the 2005 Frankfurt International Motor Show.<B> The Yaris three-door liftback and another body configuration to be announced later</B>, will replace the ECHO as Toyota's entry in the subcompact passenger-car segment when it goes on sale in the United States as a 2007 model next spring." </I><br>This is from the official Toyota press release for the Yaris. No 5dr for the US. The US is getting a 4dr sedan to compete with the Accent and Aveo sedans instead... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>"The new version, which will be renamed the Yaris, will include a five-door hatchback. Toyota expects annual U.S. sales of about 50,000 units of the vehicle. The Yaris will arrive at auto dealerships next spring."<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103206" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103206</A><p>Why, Yaris will most certainly be sold as 5 door... Looking at sales estimates, thats nice 50% more than xA, so they will probably replace xA with something else or lower its production. Toyota can easily flip the switch.

nismo
09-22-2005, 08:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"The new version, which will be renamed the Yaris, will include a five-door hatchback. Toyota expects annual U.S. sales of about 50,000 units of the vehicle. The Yaris will arrive at auto dealerships next spring."<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103206" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103206</A><p>Why, Yaris will most certainly be sold as 5 door... Looking at sales estimates, thats nice 50% more than xA, so they will probably replace xA with something else or lower its production. Toyota can easily flip the switch.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Your quoting Autoweek and I quoted "TOYOTA"... <p>Like RetroJapan said they're not going to overlap hence NO Scion in Canada NO 5dr in US.

PinzVidz
09-23-2005, 01:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW where did u hear about the Corolla Sportivo... But then again, the production of the Celica is ending and mostly even the VVTL-i engine will end too. Maybe it wont happen until next year then the next-generation Corolla will have the GT4 as the range topper in 2007.<p>About the Yaris... do u know if Toyota Australia is bring a rebadged Vitz RS here... under any name (if not Sportivo)... i hope they do coz itll sux if they dont. <p>I dont think Toyota will use VVTL-i anymore... so the rumoured 1.8L Yaris must could use a turbo... if it happens.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm not sure but I think Toyota is going to stop importing Corolla's from South Africa, and that's where the Sportivo is made. And considering the Celica's current production life is about to be ended, maybe they're going to cease production of the 2ZZ-GE (1.8 VVTL-i). I hope not - I love the sound of those things at 6000 rpm upwards!<p>In the Yaris, we should be getting something similar to the RS, but I bet they won't call it the RS here. Australians will think it'll mean "RatS***"! Reminds me of why Ford went from EB to ED and missed EC - they believed people might've thought they were refering to an Earth Closet (ala outside dunny). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
09-23-2005, 07:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Your quoting Autoweek and I quoted "TOYOTA"... <p>Like RetroJapan said they're not going to overlap hence NO Scion in Canada NO 5dr in US.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>um, I can assure you that there will be 5 door, 3 door is an niche car that will sell in hundreds. We can beat this to death, but I am pretty sure I have better understanding how T works, and in 2006 there will be 5 door Yaris in the USA.<p>as to the sportivo - Corolla TS is ending production as well. 2zzge isnt going anywhere though since it is produced in other cars and other markets, it is just that limited sales dont do well for Toyota Europe profits...

chaser
09-23-2005, 11:48 AM
The Yaris might just be another segment opener like the scions were. Since Toyota introduced the yaris in EU in 1999, they've transformed the shoddy image of the starlet into a real performer, claiming EUCOTY that year. <p>The new one looks even better and should open the US market to something Canada has already gotten a taste of.

Blackraven
09-24-2005, 03:14 AM
It doesn't seem right if the US won't launch a 5-door variant.<p>Would just be a waste if that won't happen.<p>Anyways, I think the European interior pics are also interesting:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.yaris-club.com/news/yaris2006/IAA2005/1/P9160059.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.yaris-club.com/news/yaris2006/IAA2005/1/P9160058.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.yaris-club.com/news/yaris2006/IAA2005/1/P9160057.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.yaris-club.com/news/yaris2006/offic/1043big.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.yaris-club.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.yaris-club.com</A> (Czech Yaris Club)

spwolf
09-24-2005, 05:41 AM
great looking!

LEXUS FAN!
09-24-2005, 11:05 PM
was this picture shown?<p><A HREF="http://www.newspress.co.uk/DAILY_LINKS/arc_aug_2005/38659-03-toy-.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.newspress.co.uk/DAI...-.jpg</A>

Blackraven
09-24-2005, 11:25 PM
Yup, was shown on the top portion of page 4.

rx330
09-25-2005, 05:56 AM
<A HREF="http://www.km77.com/marcas/toyota/2006/yaris/gama/g01.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.km77.com/marcas/toy...1.asp</A><p><A HREF="http://www.km77.com/marcas/toyota/2006/yaris/gama/g02.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.km77.com/marcas/toy...2.asp</A><p>Seem like Toyota is going to launch this car in every part of the world... Europe, America, Asia, Australia... <p>

Rugbyplaya91
09-25-2005, 01:10 PM
i really like it the four door hatch back with the azerra's look the best imo. and the interior is nice very scion tc ish.

PinzVidz
09-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Sourced from Toyota Australia's web site:<p>--------------------------------------------------<p>New Toyota Yaris will make its first Australian public appearance at the 2005 Australian International Motor Show.<p>The new version of the long-serving and highly popular Echo will continue Toyotas strong presence in the small car market.<p>The new hatchback has a chic and sporty exterior design, while the all-new loop-style interior continues the visual excitement  it is part of a string of new models with an increased emphasis on design at Toyota.<p>Yaris optional Safety Pack features seven airbags including side curtain shield airbags and drivers knee airbag, is a breakthrough for small cars.<p>The vehicles sophisticated new suspension calibration delivers agile handling.<p>Toyota expects the exciting Yaris to continue the Echos form as a leader in a market that is becoming increasingly important to Australians as they learn to adjust to astronomical fuel prices. <p>-------------------------------------------------<p>Well, at least we get side/curtain air bags and the knee air bag (as an option though). I wonder if they'll include VSC?

knicks125
10-07-2005, 10:02 PM
From Toyota Canada:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>Toyota Announces Pricing for 2006 Yaris <br> Canada Is First Market to Sell All-New Yaris, At Dealerships in <br> Mid-October</B><p> TORONTO, Oct. 6 /CNW/ - Responding to customer demand for more style and<br>performance in a practical, affordable package, Toyota is bringing the all-new<br>2006 Yaris to the Canadian market. Toyota - already the top-selling subcompact<br>nameplate in Canada - expects to completely redefine the expectations of<br>owners in this highly competitive category, thanks to the Yaris's dynamic<br>exterior styling, roomy and chic interior, precise handling, and class-leading<br>safety features and fuel economy. With its introduction to North America and<br>other parts of the world, the new Toyota Yaris becomes a truly global vehicle<br>with widespread appeal.<br> Traditionally, subcompacts compromised style and performance in order to<br>provide basic functionality at an affordable price. Toyota listened when<br>target owners expressed their desire for a small vehicle that is highly<br>practical, without being 'sub' anything.<br> "Yaris has enormous appeal for 'trend-setting' owners, who demand a<br>vehicle that expresses their personalities without compromising style, quality<br>and handling," said Tony Wearing, Managing Director of TCI. "Extroverted and<br>active, these are well-educated, technologically savvy consumers who use their<br>access to information to make knowledgeable purchase decisions based on their<br>unique tastes and needs."<br> The Yaris is the latest creation from ED2, Toyota's European design<br>studio, and the first vehicle sold in Canada to be created entirely using<br>Toyota's new Vibrant Clarity design principles. 'Vibrant' refers to the<br>design's energy and innovative character; 'clarity' stresses rationality, the<br>need to keep the design crisp and easy to interpret at a glance. ED2 has<br>thoughtfully expressed Vibrant Clarity throughout the vehicle to create a<br>design with worldwide appeal, and a character that is instantly recognizable<br>as Toyota.<br> The minimal front overhang, wide stance, flowing sidelines and<br>streamlined bumpers result in a uniquely proportioned body that is both strong<br>and energetic. The 'S'-shaped doors are very difficult to engineer but catch<br>and reflect light so that it plays up the design's refreshing energy. The<br>flowing shoulder line enhances the lively proportions, and the forward-leaning<br>rear silhouette creates a feeling of power and stability.<br> The ergonomically designed interior package is carefully designed to<br>provide class-leading roominess in a cabin that is highly functional as well<br>as sporty and comfortable. A number of design elements create a sense of <br>eye-catching quality that is uncommon in the class. A 'Loop Style Concept'<br>creates a visually open space using a light colour scheme that loops from the<br>door arm rests to the pillars and headliner. The centre instrument cluster<br>uses an unusual vertical layout and an innovative hoodless instrument panel<br>design to create a totally unique appearance that is both sporty and highly<br>functional.<br> Furthermore, the 2006 Yaris is equipped with an exceptional range of<br>standard and optional equipment, and comes in a host of vibrant colours<br>including three never-before seen shades: copper orange mica, bayou blue<br>metallic and blazing blue metallic.<br> Buyers can also customize their Yaris by choosing from a menu of nearly<br>50 features to add unique style, utility and performance to their vehicle. For<br>example, air conditioning is available as a stand-alone option on models where<br>it is not standard equipment, and Toyota has made it extremely easy for owners<br>to upgrade the audio system on the CE and LE trim levels (the premium audio<br>system is standard equipment on the RS grade).<br> "The target buyer for Yaris values individuality and personal style,"<br>said Wearing. "They appreciate the chance to create a total package that's<br>uniquely their own."<br> <B>Yaris will be sold in both 3- and 5-door models, and come in three trim<br>levels including CE, LE, and the sporty RS grade. Manufacturer's Suggested<br>Retail (MSRP) price for the 3-door Yaris with manual transmission will start<br>at just $13,580 for the CE trim level, $14,175 for the Yaris LE, and $16,880<br>for the 3-door Yaris RS. MSRP for the 5-door Yaris LE will be $14,910; at the<br>RS trim level, pricing will start at $17,615.</B> The new 2006 Yaris will also keep prices down at the pumps; the Yaris<br>with manual transmission uses just 6.9 L/100km city and 5.5 L/100km highway.<br>With the automatic transmission, fuel consumption is 7.1 L/100km city and<br>5.8 L/100km highway.<br> Canadian car buyers will experience the all-new Yaris in advance of<br>drivers in both Europe and the United States when it goes on sale here in <br>mid-October, taking the place of best-selling Echo Hatchback.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The rest, including official spec, please go here: <A HREF="http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/October2005/06/c8272.html?view=print" TARGET="_blank">http://www.newswire.ca/en/rele...print</A>

nismo
10-07-2005, 10:45 PM
I guess Canada gets it before the US does... I hope the prices are reasonable.<p>I went to a Toyota dealer today and he said the other model we get it a 4dr sedan(like I thought) but we'll have to wait and see to be certain.

Hornbag
10-08-2005, 04:33 AM
Is it easy to use those air con buttons? It dont look like it is...they look to far down

PinzVidz
10-12-2005, 12:51 AM
Toyota Australia have now put up a microsite - <A HREF="http://www.yaris.com.au" TARGET="_blank">http://www.yaris.com.au</A> - with some pretty average flash work. Official release date in Australia is 4th Nov.

scorpio14
10-12-2005, 01:51 AM
So unlike the current Echo sold here.. which was sold in 2 trims... base and Sportivo.... looks like the Yaris will have 3 (not including the Sportivo i think).... theres an entry (dont know the name) then the YRS and YRX.<p>Good things fa us is we get alota the features Euro and Japan have. But by the looks of things we dont get climate control (unless its in the top-of-range model and theyre not showing pics of it) and i wish we got the integrated audio player like the Vitz and Euro Yaris.... and no start-stop button darn<p>Well otherwise its all lookin good... and looks like ive found a car fa me parents to get fa me sister next year (finishing school this year so will need a car fa uni)

Gian86
10-12-2005, 03:05 AM
I've saw TV commercial of that, people of australia will think what Yaris is??!! We know it already since 99. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

StevenZoz
10-12-2005, 03:47 AM
they are launching the liftback at SEMA<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by stevenzoz at 10:56 PM 10/12/2005</i>

Dodger
10-12-2005, 07:39 AM
Do you have a source for that and does that mean that there is no rumored sedan? I thought that they were just launching the 3-door at SEMA

tjts1
10-12-2005, 04:47 PM
The toyota US site is only showing pics of the 3 door.<br><A HREF="http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yaris.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/yaris.html</A>

Ascariss
10-12-2005, 05:25 PM
If those prices are canadian, which I am assuming they are, then this car should have a nice run here in canada. The price is perfect and it's a toyota. I see tons of the sedans and hatches now, the new one will certainly be a hit. I've yet to see one at a dealer, it is mid oct, but anyday now.<p>If I were to ever buy a toyota, this would actually be it. The best part is, they kept the Yaris name. <p>Why is canada getting it before europe? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
10-12-2005, 05:44 PM
Not going to be officially unveiled until November 2 in North America, Toyota has only realeased pics and info. Probably late November to early december for launch

Ascariss
10-12-2005, 05:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not going to be officially unveiled until November 2 in North America, Toyota has only realeased pics and info. Probably late November to early december for launch</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For the US I am assuming? Cuz it says mid-october for canada and stuff here usually arrives unexpected. Well I pass a toyota dealer on my way to school everyday, so if anything I'll see it.

knicks125
10-12-2005, 07:43 PM
Correct. Mid-Oct. for Canada. Pricing seems very reasonable and an attractive buy.<p>As for US, I was under the impression that it would be released in early 06 as a 07MY, is this still true?

Dodger
10-12-2005, 08:06 PM
That's what I thought

MtViewGuy188
10-12-2005, 10:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for US, I was under the impression that it would be released in early 06 as a 07MY, is this still true?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Toyota is supposed to show the final USA versions of the Yaris at the SEMA show in Las Vegas, NV early next month. That means the general public will likely be able to see the new US-market Yaris in person for the first time at the San Francisco Auto Show on November 19-27, 2005.

knicks125
10-13-2005, 05:30 AM
US on sale date, slated for this year or next?

MtViewGuy188
10-13-2005, 06:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">US on sale date, slated for this year or next?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>According to Toyota USA's website, the Yaris will start sales in Spring 2006, which I can guess is probably around April 2006, shortly after the Honda Fit starts US sales.

nismo
10-13-2005, 10:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MtViewGuy188</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to Toyota USA's website, the Yaris will start sales in Spring 2006, which I can guess is probably around April 2006, shortly after the Honda Fit starts US sales.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Speaking of the Fit... Honda has been really tight lipped about it. I wonder if we're still getting a newer gen or the current one? and when they'll debut it or if its still coming? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I saw a closed truck with the new Civic SI, 2006 Accord Hybrid and a current Gen Fit/Jazz in it while driving into my school parking lot in downtown Ft. Lauderdale by the beach last month or so before any of these car were out. It seemed like they were for photos and whatnot so I'm guessing we might get the current Gen...

Nodnarb
10-13-2005, 10:34 AM
Yep March 2006 for the Fit, current generation. Or that is what is being reported by TOV.

nismo
10-13-2005, 11:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep March 2006 for the Fit, current generation. Or that is what is being reported by TOV.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Interesting, I thought we'd get a newer somewhat bigger one. It looked about the same size as the Aveo 5dr if not slightly smaller. <p>And the dash sort of looks like the new Civics just not as crazy otr fancy.<p>Sorry for posting this here guys...

Ascariss
10-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Just saw a commercial for it, a red RS 5 door, rather stunning little car when you see it moving. Hopefully it will be at the dealers soon.

scorpio14
10-14-2005, 03:00 AM
Saw the Yaris at the Motor Show today... its a good car... but im still waiting fa a Vitz RS version... only thing is that was engine will it get coz the 1.5l is used throughout the range now... except in the base model.

Gian86
10-14-2005, 04:06 AM
Looking forward to see one this thursday. That will be my favourite Toyota car here for now.

MtViewGuy188
10-14-2005, 07:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Speaking of the Fit... Honda has been really tight lipped about it. I wonder if we're still getting a newer gen or the current one? and when they'll debut it or if its still coming? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I saw a closed truck with the new Civic SI, 2006 Accord Hybrid and a current Gen Fit/Jazz in it while driving into my school parking lot in downtown Ft. Lauderdale by the beach last month or so before any of these car were out. It seemed like they were for photos and whatnot so I'm guessing we might get the current Gen...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Honda de Mexico's website just got updated with information about the Honda Fit (imported from Brazil) that will start selling this month:<p><A HREF="http://www.honda.com.mx/honda2006/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda.com.mx/honda2006/index.html</A><p>This maybe very close to the Honda Fit the US/Canadian market will get.

SHEPO
10-14-2005, 07:58 AM
yea its going to be extremely similar. BTW, i didn't know acura sold cars in mexico; i thought it was just the US and canada. do they sell cars anywhere else?

Omar
10-14-2005, 11:43 AM
4car (www.channel4.com/4car) have just done a road test on the Yaris. I think they're claiming to be the first in the world to test it.<p>and the review is VERY favourable! :D<p>BTW, the reviewer is on the panel of judges for the annual European Car of the year award

spwolf
10-14-2005, 03:53 PM
it is definetly an nice car... Hopefully pricing wont approach Corolla's...

scorpio14
10-14-2005, 05:19 PM
In Australia at least... the range is supposed to be priced similar to the current line up. There are three grades: YR, YRS and YRX... and its goin to be prices between the high 14grand to around 21grand (not including Sedan, which is said to be comin here).... BUT then again the range doesnt have alota the stuff Europe will be gettin (Start-Stop Button, Automatic Climate Control, 9 Air Bags Standard in some models).... So Euro Models could be more then the Corolla... i wouldnt be surprised. Here we only have 2airbags standard in all models... and theres an optional safety package that includes 7 more airbags.<p>BTW all the models have ABS BA and EBD over here... does that mean all the models will have Disc Brakes for all 4 wheels??

Ascariss
10-15-2005, 02:42 PM
Canadian site for the car:<p><A HREF="http://www.yaris.ca/en/Default.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.yaris.ca/en/Default.aspx</A><p>October 17th is when it should be at dealers it says.

spwolf
10-15-2005, 04:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In Australia at least... the range is supposed to be priced similar to the current line up. There are three grades: YR, YRS and YRX... and its goin to be prices between the high 14grand to around 21grand (not including Sedan, which is said to be comin here).... BUT then again the range doesnt have alota the stuff Europe will be gettin (Start-Stop Button, Automatic Climate Control, 9 Air Bags Standard in some models).... So Euro Models could be more then the Corolla... i wouldnt be surprised. Here we only have 2airbags standard in all models... and theres an optional safety package that includes 7 more airbags.<p>BTW all the models have ABS BA and EBD over here... does that mean all the models will have Disc Brakes for all 4 wheels??</TD></TR></TABLE><p>unfortunatly (?) here in Eastern Europe, Yaris will move up a bit in pricing, even though they claim only 300E to the price, it is a lot since Yaris was always more expensive. Problem is that our Toyota's come fully equiped from base.<p>We got prices for Aygo... And Aygo+ is the only model with AC, so basically it is our BASE model. Its got 4 airbags, Power Steering, ABS, CD w/ 4 speakers, Electrical package, and FOGLIGHTS! for the same price of old Yaris with similar package (with discount that was availabe for a while).<p>This is crazy equippment for base supposedly affordable cheap car. I cant even imagine what will Yaris base have (probably same as base Corolla today.. wait, Aygo has same equipment as base Corolla!) and Yaris will probably slot slightly below Corolla for petrol engines and almost same as Corolla with diesel engine.<p>Only great thing about it is that it is significantly bigger car, same boot as Corolla and more interior space than new Clio or Punto... plus it looks great. People should love it and I might be able to sell them to the Corolla customers as cheaper upgrade :-).<p>Aygo on the other hand, much tougher sell since all the equipment... Its gonna be for cool kids only...

scorpio14
10-17-2005, 03:39 AM
<A HREF="http://www.toyota-europe.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota-europe.com</A>/<br>Click on the Yaris link... and there'll be a mini website... dont know how many of uz have seen it... BUT u gotta watch the Advance Driving With Trulli video... i konw its old.. but i watched it again today and its awesome.

Gian86
10-19-2005, 11:11 PM
I've saw interior of Yaris and it looks alright, i would get this in the future. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
10-20-2005, 04:36 AM
I absolutly hate the ads for it, they dont even tell you its a car, its just a "Yaris." I think they suck <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I say keep Echo, at least people know what it is....

hok_man
10-21-2005, 11:58 PM
I went and see this car today and got the catalogue. I don't know why the power dropped from 108bhp to 106. Now the rear can seat 3. But me and my dad agree the new one looks less cute and cheaper. I don't see the saloon version yet. I don't see any advantage of the new version except for the bigger and nicer interior. I would say to buy the old one because their price will drop to clear off for new ones.

Hornbag
10-22-2005, 03:17 AM
The new one looks way better IMO. (im sure ive seen the sedan, it could have been an impression) The sedan one is ugly, really ugly, trust me you dont want to see it.

scorpio14
10-22-2005, 05:24 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new one looks way better IMO. (im sure ive seen the sedan, it could have been an impression) The sedan one is ugly, really ugly, trust me you dont want to see it. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are u talkin about the new Sedan... its not that bad... i love the interior...

hok_man
10-22-2005, 06:18 PM
Toyota is really not serious of competing in this segment. The yaris has only one single engine, the 1.5 1nz-fe. The three trim level's difference is only the amount of speakers and one has alloys. A/C is not standard on any of the trim levels.

Hornbag
10-22-2005, 06:22 PM
It could be the only launch engine, but im sure more will come....

scorpio14
10-22-2005, 07:58 PM
WOW i cant believe u guys dont get A/C standard... over here its standard in all models. Also we have a choice of 1.3L in the entry model and 1.5L in the 2 above it. <p>And im sure (at least for Europe and possibly Australia) theyll put another engine in their line-up if they bring the T-Sport and Sportivo models out. Coz now that the 2 upper model Yaris's have the 1.5L im sure theyll put a different engine fa the mini-hot-hatch model (thats if one comes out).

StevenZoz
10-22-2005, 08:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW i cant believe u guys dont get A/C standard... over here its standard in all models. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>a/c is not standard in all cars... the kia sportage for example... a/c is an option.<p>will be at SEMA<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by stevenzoz at 1:28 AM 10/23/2005</i>

scorpio14
10-22-2005, 10:32 PM
Sorri... i meant its standard in all models of the Australian Yaris range....

Top Secret
10-22-2005, 10:49 PM
A/C is standard in Yaris?<p>When we bought our Corolla Ascent in 2003, A/C was an option.

scorpio14
10-22-2005, 11:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A/C is standard in Yaris?<p>When we bought our Corolla Ascent in 2003, A/C was an option.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It sure is... when i went to the Motor Show i got the Toyota brochure and the Yaris brochure and both say A/C is standard in all models (YR, YRS and top YRX).<p>The Corolla i'd say just suxs when it comes to Standard Features... BUT when the All-New comes out late 06 - early 07.. i think we'll c ALOT of Standard Features... and hopefully that include Climate Control in at least most grades... allowing Toyota to put the Climate control into the Yaris that Euro markets and Japan get.

spwolf
10-23-2005, 06:42 AM
In Europe, engines are 1.0 68hp, 1.3 b7hp, and 1.4 d4d 90hp...

KebabGud
10-23-2005, 02:22 PM
later the 1,5 and 1,8 liter also...<br>(the 1,8 is still not confirmd)

PinzVidz
10-23-2005, 04:26 PM
Since Toyota Australia are too slack to put up any info about the Yaris, other than a crappy mailing form on the Echo part of their site, I've been hunting around all of the dealer sites and come across this: <A HREF="http://www.hinterland.com.au/toyota/yaris/index.php" TARGET="_blank">http://www.hinterland.com.au/t...x.php</A> All the info you'll ever need! :) Except prices damn it... :(

vasia
10-23-2005, 09:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hok_man</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Toyota is really not serious of competing in this segment. The yaris has only one single engine, the 1.5 1nz-fe. The three trim level's difference is only the amount of speakers and one has alloys. A/C is not standard on any of the trim levels.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hmm ... I've seen the new Yaris in person ... it looks bigger, classier, and has a better interior compared to the Echo. I was actually surprised as to how good the interior looked for a car in this price range. <p>The 60/40 reclining, sliding, and flat folding seats are a nifty option that other competitors can't match.<p>I don't see why it doesn't compete in the segment. A Smart car is much too overpriced compared to a Yaris, and a Chevy Aveo cannot match the fuel economy and functionality the Yaris has. <p>The US will be getting standard air conditioning. <p>Yes, a few things don't make sense for the Yaris in Canada: side airbags not offered at all, the cool rear seats only available on RS model, and ABS is not standard, like it was on the Echo.<p>On the other hand, the Yaris is a subcompact, and it cannot be priced and featured the same as it is in Europe, where standard it almost comes fully loaded, complete with side and even knee airbags!<p>Hopefully the options will get better next year for Canadian buyers.

scorpio14
10-23-2005, 11:10 PM
I was sooo hoping the Yaris would have 4 disc brakes... BUT its got Drums at the back in all models.

Hornbag
10-24-2005, 04:11 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>NewModelHunta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since Toyota Australia are too slack to put up any info about the Yaris, other than a crappy mailing form on the Echo part of their site(</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Have you seen the ads for it? They are hardly imformative, i supose they thing people will get curious and go to the website <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

TeeDi
10-24-2005, 04:17 AM
I've heard the Australian spec Toyota Yaris will have up to 7 airbag's. <p>Not sure whether that's standard on all models, or just the top spec model??<p>Have they announced pricing yet for the Australian spec Yaris??<p>I heard a starting price of $15,000 for the 3dr hatch.

scorpio14
10-24-2005, 04:44 AM
In Total the Yaris (in Australia) has up to 9 airbags. 2 standard across the range and 7 in a optional safety package. <p>To find more about the Yaris (in Australia)<p>Go to <p><A HREF="http://pressroom.com.au/newpressroom/pressroom.cfm?Section=PKR&pr=75" TARGET="_blank">http://pressroom.com.au/newpre...pr=75</A><p>And you have almost everything.... there are 32 Articles on the Yaris... u'll also find in there (gotta go through the whole thing) that there is a recommended retail price of $14,990* for the Yaris YR 1.3L Manual 3-door Hatch (up $500 from previous model).... The Enhanced Safety Pack (will the 7 other airbags) costs $750.... the only other price they give is of the Yaris YR 1.3L Manual 5-Door Hatch at $16,190* (Up $200 from previous model). You can find this under Article 6.<p>So the pricing of the entry models aint bad considering theyre well equiped compared to the previous model.<p>U'll also find under the Article 26<p>That the Yaris YR's "1.3-litre 2NZ-FE engine delivers 63kW of power at 6000rpm and 121Nm of torque at 4400rpm." Only change there is Torque down 1Nm which is strange AND "Yaris YRS and YRXs 1.5-litre 1NZ-FE engine delivers 80kW of power at 6000rpm and 141Nm of torque at 4200rpm." Which is also down 1Nm.<p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.pressroom.com.au" TARGET="_blank">http://www.pressroom.com.au</A><p>

TeeDi
10-24-2005, 05:04 AM
Thanks for the link and info mate!!

PinzVidz
10-24-2005, 03:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In Total the Yaris (in Australia) has up to 9 airbags. 2 standard across the range and 7 in a optional safety package.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's not quite correct. It's 7 airbags in total - front driver/passenger bags standard (2) side air bags (2) curtain shields (2) knee (1) total = 7.

scorpio14
10-24-2005, 04:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>NewModelHunta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That's not quite correct. It's 7 airbags in total - front driver/passenger bags standard (2) side air bags (2) curtain shields (2) knee (1) total = 7.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>O my bad... In Europe they got 9airbags... what would the other too be???

Gian86
10-24-2005, 11:24 PM
Lol, i hope this car will be safest one in small car class, if it's 5 star crash test ratings in many countries such as mostly europe and japan.

hok_man
10-24-2005, 11:31 PM
Actually, I think one air bag is all I need. More is better for your passengers, but it's burden the car and will make it cost more. My complain is, they should at least have an option for sports suspension to match the large 1.5 engine.

Hornbag
10-25-2005, 03:02 AM
Well if they can get the name "Yaris" out in Australia, its sure to be a hit. But will it fare well in sales with the new Daewoo Barina, or is that Holden Matiz?

spwolf
10-27-2005, 09:17 AM
Yaris got 5 star score, with 35 points total (better than new Clio and Punto).<p><A HREF="http://www.euroncap.com/images/results/superminis/car_232_/Yaris%20Datasheet.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.euroncap.com/images...t.pdf</A>

Dodger
11-02-2005, 09:29 AM
This debuts today at SEMA but I can't find anything about it...

spwolf
11-02-2005, 12:20 PM
<IMG SRC="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/echo_hrs3/yarissedan.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>someone from Toyota nation posted pic of sedan version, looks much better than Belta does from those pics

scorpio14
11-02-2005, 03:47 PM
Drive.com.au did a small-car test.<p><A HREF="http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10594&vf=2&bg=1&pp=0" TARGET="_blank">http://www.drive.com.au/editor...&pp=0</A><p>It came second... with the Swift winning<p><I>"The Yaris is an outstanding improvement on the Echo it replaces and has a clever, roomy interior, great ergonomics, refinement and dynamics and impressive safety, reliability and economy credentials. However, compared with the Swift it's $1000 to $2000 too expensive. If you can afford a Yaris, buy one by all means. We happily give it the thumbs-up.<p>Of all the cars here, however, the Suzuki Swift is the best overall package, in terms of value, price, build quality and dynamics. It won our small-car test at the beginning of the year and has managed to fend off newer competition which has been released since then. Which explains why there's a three-month wait for one."<br></I><p>source: drive.com.au

Dodger
11-03-2005, 05:41 PM
Since it looks like the new Accent won't have cruise control, will this? Even though a lot of people don't use cc, I do a lot of highway/interstate driving (home from school) and it would be a nice option.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Dodger at 4:46 PM 11/3/2005</i>

MiketypeR
11-03-2005, 06:18 PM
to bad the cretins at american Suzuki decided not to import the swift <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> thats one bad ass sub compact <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

caarmike
11-08-2005, 04:04 PM
Wow! That front looks downright decent. Now if they could just spiff up the interior a little...<p>There's another sedan shot halfway down this page:<br><A HREF="http://www.echodrivers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8534&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15" TARGET="_blank">http://www.echodrivers.com/for...rt=15</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by caarmike at 3:15 PM 11/8/2005</i>

Dodger
11-08-2005, 06:43 PM
It looks like it will be a cool looking little car. Looks like a mini Corolla.

Ultomato
11-08-2005, 08:14 PM
so what body styles are coming to the US? I really want the 5 door hatchback over the sedan

nismo
11-08-2005, 09:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ultomato</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what body styles are coming to the US? I really want the 5 door hatchback over the sedan</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No 5dr for US, just 3dr and 4dr sedan....

spwolf
11-09-2005, 11:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Drive.com.au did a small-car test.<p><A HREF="http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=10594&vf=2&bg=1&pp=0" TARGET="_blank">http://www.drive.com.au/editor...&pp=0</A><p>It came second... with the Swift winning<p><I>"The Yaris is an outstanding improvement on the Echo it replaces and has a clever, roomy interior, great ergonomics, refinement and dynamics and impressive safety, reliability and economy credentials. However, compared with the Swift it's $1000 to $2000 too expensive. If you can afford a Yaris, buy one by all means. We happily give it the thumbs-up.<p>Of all the cars here, however, the Suzuki Swift is the best overall package, in terms of value, price, build quality and dynamics. It won our small-car test at the beginning of the year and has managed to fend off newer competition which has been released since then. Which explains why there's a three-month wait for one."<br></I><p>source: drive.com.au</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>thats awesome! good news for Yaris and Swift too!

spwolf
11-09-2005, 11:16 AM
<IMG SRC="http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/AS/rav4-the-pitch-lg/0002.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>That autolies pic looks pretty good, actually it looks too good!

Nodnarb
11-12-2005, 08:20 AM
New photo gallery up at FamilyCar.com<p><A HREF="http://familycar.com/RoadTests/ToyotaYaris/Photos.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://familycar.com/RoadTests...s.htm</A>

SV
11-12-2005, 09:39 AM
the sedan looks pretty nice i suppose, more conventional and not as odd as the last echo for sure...it should sell. my only complaint is that i wish they could have kept the styling closer to that of the hatch, which i love partly for its simple, semi-european design. then again i suppose it would have looked awkward on a sedan body; at any rate, toyota's done a good job on this car.

spwolf
12-03-2005, 05:16 PM
just an FYI, there will be an high revving Yaris version coming next year to Europe (or 2007)... something spicey...

scorpio14
12-03-2005, 07:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just an FYI, there will be an high revving Yaris version coming next year to Europe (or 2007)... something spicey...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I guess thatll be the T-sport... i hope itll become the Sportivo in Australia.

nismo
12-16-2005, 02:07 AM
Looks good....<p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=108501#16" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...01#16</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Dodger
12-16-2005, 08:31 AM
Wow, I really like the sedan's interior. It says that they will have cruise control as an option which is good. I know a lot of people don't use but I use it a lot so it is nice to have it available.

spwolf
12-16-2005, 10:11 AM
Sedan has pretty upscale interior... And did I read it will have AC standard? :-).

GoLeafsGO
12-16-2005, 12:02 PM
very cool! as the corolla, elanta, civic, etc move up in size, power, options, we here in the states still need small, no frills cars with between 100 and 120 hp. glad to know they're filling the gap

SHEPO
12-16-2005, 01:38 PM
would make a great car for me when i start driving in early 2007...i would definitely consider one second-hand!!!

Andre
12-16-2005, 02:15 PM
In a few years (no more than 10) the Camry will be so large and luxurious that Toyota will make the decision to kill the slow-selling Avalon. They will also, about 5 years later, opt to introduce a new car smaller than the Yaris (or its replacement). by that time the Camry will be sitting where the Avalon is now, the Corolla will be the midsize volume sales leader, and the Yaris will be a premium compact sedan... At least, that's the way the market is slowly moving. Its really annoying to me, but I guess a decent marketing strategy.

Naga Royal Guard
12-16-2005, 02:19 PM
you cant see the future, this is getting simply ridiculus

Andre
12-16-2005, 03:12 PM
Sorry, I was being stupid *rolls eyes*<p>I was only commenting on the ever-increasing sizes of cars. Yes it was a bit random. I was not saying I could see the future

nismo
12-16-2005, 03:51 PM
When you see the measurements of some of the recent new cars they're not really longer though. Thanks to good engineering they make a car more spacious incside and appear bigger when really its not that bigger. The new Camry and Accord being great examples....<p>Back to the Yaris, I can't wait to see the pricing... standard AC is nice, but that should be standard now a' days anyway. Glad to see Toyota agrees with me. I hope theres a "S" version of the 3dr. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

vasia
12-16-2005, 06:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, I was being stupid *rolls eyes*<p>I was only commenting on the ever-increasing sizes of cars. Yes it was a bit random. I was not saying I could see the future</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well the new Camry is actually about the same size-wise as the current Camry. The difference is a stretched wheelbase, and better design/engineering which allows more efficient packaging, and thus more room.<p>So even though the Camry is about the same size, the interior is a bit bigger, and even the trunk gets bigger from the current 5th gen's cavernous one. <p>The Yaris I agree does approach the Corolla's size, but the Corolla will probably get a bit bigger, less so in exterior size, and more so in interior room.

Naga Royal Guard
12-16-2005, 06:25 PM
can we stop talking about camrys in a toyota VITZ/ECHO/YARIS thread

scorpio14
12-16-2005, 06:37 PM
I think the Corolla should grow in exterior size as well as interior... I just did a comparision with the 3, Astra, Corolla, Focus and Golf... and its smaller compared to the other... so i wouldnt be surprised if it grows abit which will also increase interior room.<p><A HREF="http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?view=cmp&ids=20040607.13:43:39,20030729.16:16:55,20050602.1 4:45:05,20040115.16:44:29,20040818.16:56:55&TabID=6480&Alias=carpointau#HOWBIG" TARGET="_blank">http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au...OWBIG</A><br>source: carpoint.com.au<p>I did a comparision with the Yaris and Corolla... i know theyre totally different classes BUT the i was surprised to c the width is the same<p><A HREF="http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?view=cmp&ids=20040607.13:43:39,20050926.10:40:16&TabID=6480&Alias=carpointau#HOWBIG" TARGET="_blank">http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au...OWBIG</A><br>source: carpoint.com.au

anonms
12-16-2005, 06:39 PM
A pity the 5-door won't be offered.<p><br>Any chance the Ractis will make it to the US?

caarmike
12-17-2005, 05:41 PM
Did you see the MPG figures "34 city/40 highway for the manual and 34/39 for the automatic?" It's not bad, but its not much better than the Corolla. Fuel efficiency is one of the main justifcations for buying a car in this class, because they really don't have much else to offer. But since the Yaris' mileage is relatively low, it makes more sense to buy a used Corolla (a 1-year old one) with more content and better highway gas mileage for the same price or less. I know some people buy cars in this price range just so they can have something new. But buying new dosen't make much sense to me if the car you're getting is so unrefined you'll just want to trade up as soon as you can afford it.

Dodger
12-17-2005, 06:13 PM
This car seems pretty well optioned for the category it is in. I wouldn't call it unrefined. Edmunds seems to think that is pretty refined for an econo car.

anonms
12-17-2005, 08:01 PM
Considering how the Fit's predicted fuel economy is much worse than the Civic's, I don't see much of a problem with the Yaris' fuel economy.<p>Although the Versa's predicted fuel economy puts that of the Yaris and Civic to shame, especially since the Versa's engine is larger and more powerful, as well.<p>A shame the Yaris can't be had with Bluetooth.

phaeton
12-18-2005, 01:14 AM
Andre's quote <B> was only commenting on the ever-increasing sizes of cars. Yes it was a bit random. I was not saying I could see the future</B><br>I believe you<p>Look at VW's line<br>1975 Polo,Golf/Jetta,Passat<br>1999 Lupo now Polo mk1 size,Polo Golf 1 Size, Golf/Jetta now mk1 passat size Passat etc<p>2005 Fox = 1996-2001 Polo 6N size etc 2005 Jetta = Passat Mk3 size etc

spwolf
12-18-2005, 06:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In a few years (no more than 10) the Camry will be so large and luxurious that Toyota will make the decision to kill the slow-selling Avalon. They will also, about 5 years later, opt to introduce a new car smaller than the Yaris (or its replacement). by that time the Camry will be sitting where the Avalon is now, the Corolla will be the midsize volume sales leader, and the Yaris will be a premium compact sedan... At least, that's the way the market is slowly moving. Its really annoying to me, but I guess a decent marketing strategy.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>well honestly - Camry is the same size as before :-). Both Rav4 (euro) and Yaris and still half size smaller than competition. New Civic (euro) is actually more compact.<p>It is European and American car makers that are deciding to inflate all of their cars, no matter what.

vasia
12-18-2005, 01:25 PM
Huh, the Yaris has low economy?<p>It gets about the same (Yaris 1.5L) on the highway as a Corolla 1.8L, and definitely better in the city.<p>Can you name me any other gasoline-powered car available in North America that gets 34mpg in the city?<p>And the Versa puts the Yaris' economy to shame? Is that a fact? Anyone have any figures to back this up? Last I heard, the Versa was rumoured to get 38mpg highway, which hardly "shames" the Yaris. Keep in mind the Versa gets a CVT, while the Yaris gets by with traditional trannies. If Toyota stuck a CVT into the Yaris, it would smoke the competition in fuel economy. <p>Besides, I don't consider the Versa as a true Yaris competitor (in North America), as it will start at a higher price point, and it seems closer to being a Corolla competitor. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by vasia at 4:30 PM 12/18/2005</i>

flippin'round07
12-18-2005, 01:41 PM
Actually, the the Sentra is supposed to be a Corolla copetitor, so the Versa is indeed a competitor of the Yaris. Right???? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

vasia
12-18-2005, 05:32 PM
Like I said, the Versa will start at a higher price point than the Yaris, and have an engine, interior room, and features very comparable to the Corolla. <p>Then again, seeing as how the new Sentra and coming Corolla are supposed to be more upscale, I guess the Versa is stuck in a rough spot.<p>It's as if Nissan couldn't decide whether the Versa competes with the Yaris or Corolla.

knicks125
12-18-2005, 05:49 PM
Yaris competes with Versa, Fit, Accent/Rio and the likes.<p>Corolla competes with Sentra, Civic, Elantra, Spectra and the likes.<p>Variation in features and/or prices are not the deciding factors in choosing which segment of cars one competes with.

nismo
12-18-2005, 10:17 PM
Knicks is right, the Versa competes with the Yaris, Accent, Fit, etc... pricing is suppose to start around $12k for the Versa while Toyota has only said the Yaris will start below $13k....<p>I expect their pricing to be very similar.<p>Did anyone else notice they are releasing the Yaris a month before the Versa 5dr? Smart move Toyota. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Also, the Versa has "combined" fuel economy of 38 mpg, not 38 mpg HW.... <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by nismo at 9:27 PM 12/18/2005</i>

haji
12-18-2005, 11:37 PM
just in case you missed, a TRD Racing Edition for JDM...<br><A HREF="http://toyota.jp/customize/vitz/trdracing/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://toyota.jp/customize/vit....html</A><p>although it costs a hefty 2.2 million yen, the car comes with a full roll cage, a Sabelt racing harness, tow hook, racing suspension, limited slip diff, enforced clutch, etc.<br><A HREF="http://toyota.jp/customize/vitz/trdracing/equipment.html" TARGET="_blank">http://toyota.jp/customize/vit....html</A><p>you can add the racing gauges if necessary...

vasia
12-19-2005, 12:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Knicks is right, the Versa competes with the Yaris, Accent, Fit, etc... pricing is suppose to start around $12k for the Versa while Toyota has only said the Yaris will start below $13k....<p>I expect their pricing to be very similar.<p>Did anyone else notice they are releasing the Yaris a month before the Versa 5dr? Smart move Toyota. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Also, the Versa has "combined" fuel economy of 38 mpg, not 38 mpg HW.... <p><br><i>Modified by nismo at 9:27 PM 12/18/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Seeing as Yaris starts at about 13k in Canada, I'm pretty sure Yaris in the US will start below 12K. <p>And Versa has "38mpg combined"? Interesting. I'd really like to see Nissan pull it off, seeing as generally Nissans have never been known to be fuel efficient cars, in any class really.

anonms
12-19-2005, 10:19 PM
One word: Xtronic. Wonderful transmission, indeed.<p>As much as the Yaris is more astetically appealing to me, the Versa still seems far better in terms of content and price.

vasia
12-19-2005, 10:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>butterfly0fDOOM!!!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One word: Xtronic. Wonderful transmission, indeed.<p>As much as the Yaris is more astetically appealing to me, the Versa still seems far better in terms of content and price.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>One thing that I forgot about is Scion: seeing as how the Versa has features like MP3 connectivity, it would seem to compete more with Scion cars.<p>Yaris simply seems to be a mini-Corolla, while Versa seems to be more of an oddball. It's like it doesn't want to step on the toes of the Sentra, yet it tries oh so hard to be upscale, with bluetooth connectivity, an audio jack and mp3 playback. <br>

spwolf
12-20-2005, 11:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yaris competes with Versa, Fit, Accent/Rio and the likes.<p>Corolla competes with Sentra, Civic, Elantra, Spectra and the likes.<p>Variation in features and/or prices are not the deciding factors in choosing which segment of cars one competes with.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Versa is based on Megane, which is an Corolla 5 hatch competitor. I dont know how in the world can it be an Yaris competitor, except for the price. They seem to have modified Megane interior and cheapened out everything to the max. Some things look cool, some look pretty rustic.<p>Hatch still looks good exterior wise, while sedan is pretty ugly, ie economic looking.<p>Corolla sized cars get the best mpg due to less heat loss in larger engines. However this is only in EPA tests that allow extermly light acceleration which helps porkier cars. There is no way in real world you can better MPG with Corolla compared with Echo.

spwolf
12-20-2005, 11:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vasia</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>One thing that I forgot about is Scion: seeing as how the Versa has features like MP3 connectivity, it would seem to compete more with Scion cars.<p>Yaris simply seems to be a mini-Corolla, while Versa seems to be more of an oddball. It's like it doesn't want to step on the toes of the Sentra, yet it tries oh so hard to be upscale, with bluetooth connectivity, an audio jack and mp3 playback. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think you hit it there, it is supposed to be something like Scion's, something different than anything else offered in US market, slightly cheaper and more options than before.<p>Yet, this is an Yaris thread. Maybe someone should post more in Versa thread?