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Player4
01-11-2005, 08:00 PM
<B>Lexus Enhances Hot-Selling RX 330 in 2005 with Special Edition</B><p><I>January 9, 2005 -- Detroit, MI -- Lexus introduced a special edition of the best-selling RX 330 luxury utility vehicle called Thundercloud Edition today at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. <p>Although, the RX 330 continues to lead the luxury SUV field in sales, the new Thundercloud Edition adds another dimension to the lineup with several enhancements designed to give customers an attractive new choice. <p>A rich gray metallic color known as Thundercloud Metallic graces the special edition and is matched with light gray interior with leather-trimmed seats and black birdⳠeye maple wood trim. Flint Mica is also available as an alternative exterior color. <p>The grille lends an elegant look with chrome horizontal bars that convey its connection to other Lexus models. "Thundercloud" badges on the front doors and floor mats identify this special edition. New five-spoke aluminum alloy wheels with contrasting rings complete the package with fresh details. <p>All Thundercloud Edition RX 330s are available with performance, luxury and convenience features found in the standard RX 330, including the Adaptive Front lighting System (AFS), Mark Levinson audio, rear seat DVD entertainment system and more. <p>Vehicles will be available in dealers in late January 2005, with a planned volume of 6,500 units. The special edition price will start at $300 above the base MSRP of $35,775 for the two-wheel drive model, and $37,175 for the all-wheel drive model. <br></I><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947095_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947095_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947136_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947136_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947121_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947121_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947167_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947167_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947152_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947152_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947213_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947213_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947183_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947183_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947198_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947198_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947244_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947244_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947261_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947261_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947277_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947277_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947229_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947229_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947292_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010947292_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.AutoDeadLine.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AutoDeadLine.com</A>

knicks125
01-11-2005, 11:08 PM
minor mods with this version of the RX but I will take it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

IcedG35
01-13-2005, 08:56 PM
those wheels seem way too much like the updated SC wheels but thats not necessarily a bad thing

Pedigreepaul
01-14-2005, 04:46 AM
I don't like the rims.. They look like badly drawn flowers.. way too flat..

Naga Royal Guard
01-14-2005, 10:10 AM
yo this thing looks like a garbage dump

spwolf
01-14-2005, 04:52 PM
hm, where did my post go?<p>In any case, RX looks soooooo good, as always. P.S. when is RX350 due? That will be awesome!

southjersey600r
01-14-2005, 07:16 PM
kinda seems like the name is stretching it too far with basically a new paint job and some rims but its good lookin still so ya i'll take it too.

kevinb120
01-14-2005, 08:09 PM
It should come with an expresso machine in the dash to keep the owners from falling asleep. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sleep.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 02:10 PM
My question is this: if the RX sells so well as it is, why does Lexus feel the need to tack on some really not-so-cool rims and embroider the floor mats for a special edition? This is a mommy-mobile, and I don't think prospective customers are going to be enticed by the name <I>Thundercloud</I>. This isn't a Chevy Silverado.

KaRaceR
01-17-2005, 07:13 AM
taht is probably my favorite lexus but i cants see much difference from the other one

spwolf
01-17-2005, 09:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My question is this: if the RX sells so well as it is, why does Lexus feel the need to tack on some really not-so-cool rims and embroider the floor mats for a special edition? This is a mommy-mobile, and I don't think prospective customers are going to be enticed by the name <I>Thundercloud</I>. This isn't a Chevy Silverado.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>why not? I would buy this right away as my main car if I lived in the US. Whats so mommy-mobile about it? I already have an sports car and I dont need some pretender that will break my back over most roads, and i dont need an real SUV for backtrails.... perfect car for me!

Ascariss
01-17-2005, 10:17 AM
What is the point of this thing? So idiots go into the showroom, see limited edition and think, ah hot damn, I better buy it. Even if I were in the market for the RX, I wouldn't get this, you'd have to be mental, and lexus most likely knows that. Just get the regular version and save some cash. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-17-2005, 10:23 AM
IMO, toyota wanted make some changes to attract even more customers but thought it was not worthwhile to make a new version of the RX just yet, so they threw on some new spinners, plus other unnoticeable minor mods, and a new name so they can charge a little bit more in its prices.<p>Not sure what the forecast is for the thundercloud edition (actually to me there's nothing thundercloud about this car), we'll just have to wait and see how this one does. Toyota should be careful with this one, it may backfire on them.

Ascariss
01-17-2005, 10:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO, toyota wanted make some changes to attract even more customers but thought it was not worthwhile to make a new version of the RX just yet, so they threw on some new spinners, plus other unnoticeable minor mods, and a new name so they can charge a little bit more in its prices.<p>Not sure what the forecast is for the thundercloud edition (actually to me there's nothing thundercloud about this car), we'll just have to wait and see how this one does. Toyota should be careful with this one, it may backfire on them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why would Lexus need a new version of the RX already? Is it selling that bad? I mean, they have the RX400h coming so no need to panic on their part, even though it has been delayed by some time now. Anyone know the sales of the RX and how they are doing when compared to previous years? If things are not good as before, then this edition won't help them if you ask me. I personally can't think of any ideas why they wouldn't need this model. If anyone does I am open to suggestions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-17-2005, 10:34 AM
I am not really sure why my best guess would be in my previous post...you're right...I didn't even think about it, the hybrid is coming soon (I think in April)...not sure where this edition would fit in the RX lineup...maybe just a publicity stunt <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> , as there won't be many thundercloud editions made

spwolf
01-17-2005, 10:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Why would Lexus need a new version of the RX already? Is it selling that bad? I mean, they have the RX400h coming so no need to panic on their part, even though it has been delayed by some time now. Anyone know the sales of the RX and how they are doing when compared to previous years? If things are not good as before, then this edition won't help them if you ask me. I personally can't think of any ideas why they wouldn't need this model. If anyone does I am open to suggestions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>lol, you are thinking way too much about this. First of all RX is selling better than ever, month after month. 2nd of all, special editions like this have been done forever in Europe - and MSRP is the same as normal model. They are going to make only 5k of these, as supposed to 110k of "normal" RX's... Why wouldnt you want something different? People do that all the time.<p>I think it is excellent that Toyota FINALLY offers special editions of their cars, that are a bit different for people that want something different. It gives you more options. Both Yaris and Corolla now in Europe now have "special" editions as another way of giving more options to end customer, and it is not because they are selling low - in fact Yaris is selling better than ever after 6 years in existance (!!!).<p>So basically what you get is basically another model which is unique (different interior trim, slightly different exterior), that is going to be sold only in 5,000 copies, and have same MSRP as rest of the range.... and something is wrong with that? please...<br>. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by spwolf at 10:05 AM 1/17/2005</i>

DoMiNo
01-17-2005, 12:23 PM
The RX is a fine vehicle and I realize it sells well. And fine, a special edition makes sense enough to me.<p>I just don't get why they had to give it a name more suited to an Indian Chief or a pro wrestler, and then continue to strip it of anything "special" by giving it merely [ugly] new rims and embroidered floor mats? <p>It's like a girl getting a tattoo on her lower back. Completely clich and more or less classless.

kevinb120
01-18-2005, 04:30 PM
I have never liked the RX, it is a vehicle that excells at nothing. It has no soul and no capeability. Its like driving a big marshmallow around. I am surprised they have been able to push this fancy highlander for so long with no major revisions. I have never been a big crossover fan, but MDX, toureg, and XC90 are so much more visceral to drive if you want to find a grocery-lot hip 'suv' to lease for 3 years.

DoMiNo
01-18-2005, 05:09 PM
That will be the only time I see the word "visceral" used in the same sentence with any of those vehicles. A moment to remember.<p>And as for the comment that the RX excels at nothing, that's discounting the fact that it has consistently higher quality ratings than anything in its class, and that kickin' Mark Levinson sound system. And despite being pretty underwhelming, it's got some fun hi-tech touches, like the adaptive headlights, air suspension, and so on. <p>I think the real crime here is merely the fact that they want to parade this half-assed attempt at a special edition as something new and exciting.

spwolf
01-18-2005, 07:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That will be the only time I see the word "visceral" used in the same sentence with any of those vehicles. A moment to remember.<p>And as for the comment that the RX excels at nothing, that's discounting the fact that it has consistently higher quality ratings than anything in its class, and that kickin' Mark Levinson sound system. And despite being pretty underwhelming, it's got some fun hi-tech touches, like the adaptive headlights, air suspension, and so on. <p>I think the real crime here is merely the fact that they want to parade this half-assed attempt at a special edition as something new and exciting.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>dont mind the haters, they dont know better! RX330 consistantly rates better than the rest, or at worse still at the top of the field... In fact, it is an rare American model that gets rave reviews in Europe. It is an awesome car... As to the handling, sure it aint X5 but it isnt trying to be nor it has an awful ride.. it is an LS of crossovers and thats what it wants to be.<p>Thats why I want to get one bad, we will see how 400h goes.

Ascariss
01-18-2005, 07:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>lol, you are thinking way too much about this. First of all RX is selling better than ever, month after month. 2nd of all, special editions like this have been done forever in Europe - and MSRP is the same as normal model. They are going to make only 5k of these, as supposed to 110k of "normal" RX's... Why wouldnt you want something different? People do that all the time.<p>I think it is excellent that Toyota FINALLY offers special editions of their cars, that are a bit different for people that want something different. It gives you more options. Both Yaris and Corolla now in Europe now have "special" editions as another way of giving more options to end customer, and it is not because they are selling low - in fact Yaris is selling better than ever after 6 years in existance (!!!).<p>So basically what you get is basically another model which is unique (different interior trim, slightly different exterior), that is going to be sold only in 5,000 copies, and have same MSRP as rest of the range.... and something is wrong with that? please...<br>. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe, but I still think it's a waste of Lexus' resources, this limited edition is pointless. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-18-2005, 07:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Maybe, but I still think it's a waste of Lexus' resources, this limited edition is pointless. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly...With the hybrid version coming out soon, I almost feel the two would cancel each other out, as far as sales are concerned. Even though Toyota's only making a limited amount of these so called thundercloud edition, hybrids are hot right now (in fact there will be hot for a while), I just don't think there would be enough time for the average consumers to absorb both one after another. I don't know...<p>Still trying to get used to this thundercloud, for some reason just can't picture the name assoicated with Lexus or Toyota

Naga Royal Guard
01-18-2005, 09:32 PM
they do this to test different options as easier to market packages; it costs them little more than the modifications and marketing

Cozz
01-18-2005, 09:39 PM
Those rims look like trash.... goes with the truck nicely. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-18-2005, 09:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Maybe, but I still think it's a waste of Lexus' resources, this limited edition is pointless. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Amen.

Flagship
01-19-2005, 04:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kevinb120</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have never liked the RX, it is a vehicle that excells at nothing. It has no soul and no capeability. Its like driving a big marshmallow around. I am surprised they have been able to push this fancy highlander for so long with no major revisions. I have never been a big crossover fan, but MDX, toureg, and XC90 are so much more visceral to drive if you want to find a grocery-lot hip 'suv' to lease for 3 years.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>GRRRRRRRR!FIRST OF ALL YOU ARE VERY VERY WRONG ANTI LEXUS PERSON!!!THE LEXUS RX IS NOT A HIGHLANDER AND IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN IN ONE YOU WOULD REALIZE THIS, ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ONE! My dad owns a RX 330 and it does not DRIVE LIKE A MARSHMALLOW, ITS MORE OF A SOFT SADAN RIDE!Its quality and reliability are better than Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti, Acura, and VW AND IT IS NOT A HIP SUV!!!!!!!!!!!<br>THATS WHY THE RX 330 IS THE #1 SELLING LUXURY SUV IN AMERICA <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Back on topic I too think that a limited edition is pointless but it is only $300 more than the regular price and Lexus has always had limited editions in the past, except they called them Coach editions. <br> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Flagship GT at 3:08 PM 1/19/2005</i>

DoMiNo
01-19-2005, 04:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>it does not DRIVE LIKE A MARSHMALLOW, ITS MORE OF A SOFT SADAN RIDE!<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Haha, there's a difference?

Flagship
01-19-2005, 04:49 PM
Marshmallow refers to the cars over all appearance and driving style. An example would be dull, plain hard to maneuver or control.

Cozz
01-19-2005, 06:05 PM
I already worked on one... not impressed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-19-2005, 07:28 PM
thousands a month disagee w/ that

IcedG35
01-19-2005, 10:45 PM
whats the RX350??? ur not talkin about the 400h rite?

Naga Royal Guard
01-20-2005, 11:50 AM
this myserious GR-based 3.5L v6 thats in the avalon and JDM GS; apparently it fits in toyota's global midsize Fwd chassis and their Crown chassis - so theres reason to believe it may pass to the ES, solara, camry, highlander, and RX suv<p>but the 3.3L V6 only exists for NA

Flagship
01-20-2005, 01:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I already worked on one... not impressed. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Sorry if I am rude but how are you not impressed?<br>

DoMiNo
01-20-2005, 04:42 PM
Dude, let it go, and realize that not everyone is going to have the same affinity for automobiles you may find amazing. The RX may be a wonderful car but it doesn't have to be everyone's favorite...

anonms
01-20-2005, 05:53 PM
The only RX I would ever want to buy would be an RX400h.

Cozz
01-20-2005, 07:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Sorry if I am rude but how are you not impressed?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>What I mean by is the way it's built. The center council is loose for the Lexus badge and you see corners cut every where. The older RX300 is built a lot stronger by far.<p>-the center vents have chrome on the center like the Benzes. The side ones don't and feel like it comes from Kia.<p>-the seats can't be moved in more than one position at a time. You'll have to move someing like the lumber support first then move it forward or back or any other direction.<p>- the under dash shows the sponge used for the dash area because they didn't cover it with leather like the rest of the dash. <p>There was some more things but that is what stood out most. But I really liked the moving headlights.<br>

Laguna
01-21-2005, 03:30 AM
As long as it is nice who cares. I don't mean to be rude to anyone.

scorpio14
01-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Will the 400h come out wit the Facelift RX range or before....maybe the facelift should get the 3.5L instead this 3.3L...or maybe i'll get it when the all new one is due (whenever that happens)<p>Yeah those alloys do look bad....the Thundercloud edition mostly likely aint comin to Australia or any other country...just stay in America

spwolf
01-22-2005, 07:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What I mean by is the way it's built. The center council is loose for the Lexus badge and you see corners cut every where. The older RX300 is built a lot stronger by far.<p>-the center vents have chrome on the center like the Benzes. The side ones don't and feel like it comes from Kia.<p>-the seats can't be moved in more than one position at a time. You'll have to move someing like the lumber support first then move it forward or back or any other direction.<p>- the under dash shows the sponge used for the dash area because they didn't cover it with leather like the rest of the dash. <p>There was some more things but that is what stood out most. But I really liked the moving headlights.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>And which benz is that? Most benz models such as C class, A class, and ML leave so much to be desired in terms of materials used. Even the new ML's interior looks like cheap car compared to RX, in fact it looks a lot more like Kia than Lexus does. In fact, our dear picky Europeans rate RX's built quality far higher than their own ML... but ok, to each its own.

DoMiNo
01-22-2005, 01:00 PM
this has all really moved out of the realm of civil, intelligent discussion...

Flagship
01-22-2005, 01:47 PM
First of all you can move seats in all directions at the same time(move the top forward or backward while moving the bottom forward or backward) and compared to the old RX this one is much better.<p>If you don't believe me look at J.D Power Associates ratings. The Lexus RX is one of the best Luxury SUVs ...look...<br> <br><A HREF="http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/jdpa_ratings/FindJdAwards.jsp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto...s.jsp</A><p><br><i>Modified by Flagship GT at 3:24 PM 1/22/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Flagship GT at 4:15 PM 1/22/2005</i>

Naga Royal Guard
01-22-2005, 04:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all you can move seats forward / backward at the same time <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>in the same dimension?

spwolf
01-22-2005, 05:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all you can move seats in all directions at the same time(move the top forward or backward while moving the bottom forward or backward) and compared to the old RX this one is much better.<p>If you don't believe me look at J.D Power Associates ratings. The Lexus RX is one of the best Luxury SUVs ...look...<br> <br><br>[URL]http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto...s.jsp[/url (http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/jdpa_ratings/FindJdAwards.jsp)]<p><br><i>Modified by Flagship GT at 3:24 PM 1/22/2005</i><p><br><i>Modified by Flagship GT at 4:15 PM 1/22/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>well, you know what they say... if your brand didnt win JD Power, it was STAGED I say, STAGED! liers<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>j/k<p>Yea, we should be nice. I love MB. I love Cozz. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Lexus sells insane number of RX's now, which is why they need to give it more options, interior trims, etc. Which is why this special edition is a move towards that, and I for one would love to get that new interior trim.<p>Eventually market will be saturated, you have to add it up, and Lexus should do that when the sales are still up. Doing something about it when your model is old and starts losing sales (Golf R32 anyone?) is too little, too late.<p>I bet this new interior trim will go into facelifted model in 2006, together with that new engine. It will go forever.

Cozz
01-22-2005, 05:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all you can move seats in all directions at the same time(move the top forward or backward while moving the bottom forward or backward) and compared to the old RX this one is much better.<p>If you don't believe me look at J.D Power Associates ratings. The Lexus RX is one of the best Luxury SUVs ...look...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No you can't. I'm sure of it because I tried to move both buttons at the same time because the owner is a smaller lady.<p>...and JDPA doesn't know it's ass from it's elbow to know how the car is built. <p>Ohh yeah, the steering wheel wood didn't even match the wood grain on the center dash. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> Way off, like it came from 2 different brands.

Cozz
01-22-2005, 05:57 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>And which benz is that? Most benz models such as C class, A class, and ML leave so much to be desired in terms of materials used. Even the new ML's interior looks like cheap car compared to RX, in fact it looks a lot more like Kia than Lexus does. In fact, our dear picky Europeans rate RX's built quality far higher than their own ML... but ok, to each its own.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hmm... and I take it you have seen the new ML in person or just talking out of your ass again? The ML is and old car and yes, their has been many flaws. I have worked on the newer RX and older RX and can tell you that the older one was better built by far. The older one had overbuilt door panels, the newer ones uses three screws around the handle and just pops out. Look under the newer RX, under the knee airbag and the whole thing is loose. You'll also see a yellowish light, I have no idea what's that for.

Flagship
01-22-2005, 06:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>No you can't. I'm sure of it because I tried to move both buttons at the same time because the owner is a smaller lady.<p>...and JDPA doesn't know it's ass from it's elbow to know how the car is built. <p>Ohh yeah, the steering wheel wood didn't even match the wood grain on the center dash. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> Way off, like it came from 2 different brands.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Than I guess that you can only do that with the passenger side.Who the hell cares about that anyway.<p>The wood steering wheel is the same color as the rest of the wood in the car just not exact since it is real wood and all wood grain is different.<p>If you think this car sucks so much than why is it the #1 selling luxury SUV in America.

Cozz
01-22-2005, 06:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Than I guess that you can only do that with the passenger side.Who the hell cares about that anyway.<p><b>The wood steering wheel is the same color as the rest of the wood in the car just not exact since it is real wood and all wood grain is different.</b><p>If you think this car sucks so much than why is it the #1 selling luxury SUV in America.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>BS! I guess you haven't even been in one. I'm telling you that it was a totally different grain/design/color/look! Also, who said the car sucks? Don't put words in no one's mouth around here.<p>

Flagship
01-22-2005, 06:10 PM
From the way that you are talking it sounds like you hate it!<p>The wood IS ALL the some color. I know this because my dad drives one.

Cozz
01-22-2005, 08:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From the way that you are talking it sounds like you hate it!<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, pointing out the things I didn't like... that's all.<p>I said I liked the moving headlights... does this mean I love the car...nope. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>PS. Does your dad have the loose lower council as well? Just shake it around and see. Also, do you know what that light under the dash is for?

Naga Royal Guard
01-22-2005, 08:44 PM
Nice job guys, how many more pages of this? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

Cozz
01-22-2005, 08:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice job guys, how many more pages of this? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Until I figure out what that little light under the dash is for. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It's just below the knee airbag to the center. It almost looks like a LED. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-22-2005, 08:58 PM
drive it at night? it could be from something else

Cozz
01-22-2005, 09:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">drive it at night? it could be from something else</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Na, I even unpluged it from the harness. Maybe some sort of temp sensor.<p>I did a remote start on the RX330. First car ever to use 2 starter wires and 2 ignition wires...odd. The damn check engine light poped up too. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-22-2005, 09:44 PM
is that why you hate it so much? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Cozz
01-23-2005, 07:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that why you hate it so much? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, it did get me worried for a while. Last thing I need is an owner to complain about a CEL. But it shut off after the third time remote starting it. I also gave her power hatch on the new remotes. She was happy but the car still looks like an egg from the front. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-23-2005, 09:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but the car still looks like an egg from the front. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>sorry there isnt much that can be done about that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Flagship
01-23-2005, 10:40 AM
The light under the dash is some useless thing that illuminates the petals at night, it dose the same for the passenger side. <p>Compared to the other luxury SUVs (MDX,FX,ML,) the RX is the best.

Cozz
01-23-2005, 04:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The light under the dash is some useless thing that illuminates the petals at night, it dose the same for the passenger side. <p>Compared to the other luxury SUVs (MDX,FX,ML,) the RX is the best. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have worked on the MDX not too long ago. I think it's a bit more solid and built better. It also has a better sound system out of the dealer. But that's just IMO. Also, it's just a couple hundred more than the RX but comes with more standered features like AWD.

Krypton
01-23-2005, 04:52 PM
out of the mdx, rx and ml, the mdx does have the best sound system. My ml and my friends mdx both have premium bose sounds sytems but the mdx's sounds so much better. The windows are shaking from the subwoofer and the clarity of the sound is amazing

spwolf
01-23-2005, 07:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SLR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">out of the mdx, rx and ml, the mdx does have the best sound system. My ml and my friends mdx both have premium bose sounds sytems but the mdx's sounds so much better. The windows are shaking from the subwoofer and the clarity of the sound is amazing</TD></TR></TABLE><p>thats unless you get ML system for RX... Bose sucks compared to ML.<br>In fact, I really dont like how Bose sounds at all.

Naga Royal Guard
01-23-2005, 07:32 PM
Bose is good ( from what ive heard) their speaker construction is quite good, but the Mark Levinson systems PWEND all ( im always tempted to lock myself in an LS 430 at autoshow w/ a few Eminem CDs, but i got yelled at by a rep for blasting evanesence in a Phaeton )

Cozz
01-23-2005, 07:47 PM
Bose sucks to be honest. I hate how they put a small amp into each speaker of the car. Door speakers can catch water. Older Maximas are known for Bose problems on doors.

Krypton
01-23-2005, 07:56 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> ive tried that, turned on the radio in the MB and BMW stands. Reps got mad for annoying their "potential" customers

Naga Royal Guard
01-23-2005, 07:56 PM
so thats how they do it, they put a small amp into each speaker, interesting concept<p>always something to learn from Grandpa Cozz <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pirate2.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
01-23-2005, 09:56 PM
Comparison Test:<br>Lexus Thundercloud vs. Saturn Sky vs. Dodge Stratus vs. Geo Storm... who will emerge victorious?<p>Find out next week on BBC's TopGear!

Naga Royal Guard
01-23-2005, 09:58 PM
what the hell do you have against the Buick Monte Carlo?

syclone
01-23-2005, 10:02 PM
Pontiac Korvette?

Naga Royal Guard
01-23-2005, 10:18 PM
at the rate GM is pushing pontiac, i wouldnt be surprised if the next aztek wasnt a rip on the RX 330

syclone
01-23-2005, 10:29 PM
would they call it a sky-storm?<p><br>THUNDERCLOUD!

DoMiNo
01-24-2005, 02:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">at the rate GM is pushing pontiac, i wouldnt be surprised if the next aztek wasnt a rip on the RX 330</TD></TR></TABLE><p>ALL I WANT IS MY TACKY PLASTIC CLADDING.<p>I hear that's on the comeback, you know. Sooner or later it'll be Lexus imitating <I>Pontiac.</I>

knicks125
01-24-2005, 08:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hear that's on the comeback, you know. Sooner or later it'll be Lexus imitating <I>Pontiac.</I></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you just kidding around? i hope so b/c i'm laughing so hard about what you said..."Lexus imitating Pontiac" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-24-2005, 10:19 AM
the 4runner is still covered in that crap<p>Toyota/Lexus will continue using it, in small amounts on their SUVs, its always been on the Land Cruiser, ive never minded it

DoMiNo
01-24-2005, 11:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 4runner is still covered in that crap<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Heck yea it is... *shudders*<p>On that note... you're right. Sometimes Toyota and even Lexus go a little heavy on the plastic tack-ons. Need I mention the wheels of the SC430?