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Charger
01-10-2005, 01:59 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoweek

Charger
01-10-2005, 02:32 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/2.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/4.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/5.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/3.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/z14%20Eclipse%20GT.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/z16%20Eclipse%20GT.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/z17%20Eclipse%20GT.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/z19%20Eclipse%20GT.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/mitsu/eclipse/images/z8%20Eclipse%20GT.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>source: autoweek<p>I am really impressed with this. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 12:41 PM 1/11/2005</i>

Outlander
01-10-2005, 02:37 PM
I think the Eclipse looks good, it should hopefully help the companies image. I think it will make a really sweat soft top, if this is what we can expect from Mitsubishi with future products then hopefully their fortunes will turn around. One suggestion I have is 300hp, AWD and the Raliart name plate. But i am sure thats in the pipeline.

-Peter-
01-10-2005, 02:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I am really impressed with this. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>me too, they actually made it look like the concept. Something that Ford can never do (except Fusion). maybe this is one of those vehicles that helps Mitsu to survive.<p>the interior is very nice and modern. I hope the new lancer would have same style interior. <p>There is also something from new Colt in it (front). Is this never coming to europe?

RuneSpyder
01-10-2005, 02:47 PM
Nice. It almost makes me forget about what Mits. did to the 3g Eclipse. Too bad about not having a turbo or AWD but a 270+HP V6 is still pretty nice. Anyone else notice that the material on the driver's seat isn't wearing very well? The fabric on the sides look all stretched out. Or is it leather? I can't tell.<p>I am assuming that the interior is color coordinated to the car?<p>That car is going to look awesome in black with some nice polished wheels.<br>

sono81
01-10-2005, 02:49 PM
The rear reminds me a bit of the Audi TT and the second gen of the Eclipse. I don¬Ět really like that interior, but it looks well done.

SV
01-10-2005, 03:23 PM
it looks very nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> when i saw the concept i thought it was to busy and confused-looking, but the production version is cleaner and simpler, which i like. the interior looks vastly improved from older (US-market) mitsubishi cars, like the galant and endeavor. the quality looks good too, and the huge expanse of orange there is obviously soft to the touch, fortunately. if mitsubishi makes more cars like this here, then the success they've had in the european market will be repeated here <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>i just hope the handling will be sporty, since the current one apparently hasn't been too good in that area.

1966_GTO_
01-10-2005, 03:25 PM
It's still a chick car, but I am impressed. It is sporty and stands apart from other low-priced sports coupes.

Krypton
01-10-2005, 04:03 PM
Looks good, getrs rid of the confusing concept details while keeping the main design elements and the interior looks good too. Overall <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> and lets hope we can see products like this from Mitsubishi but eclipse gen2 still looks hot

piokor
01-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Thumbs up to Mitsubishi. After the mundane Galant, this is a great design and I'm confident it will sell well. Does this car really have any competition? I can only think of the Tiburon, but that doesn't really count <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> .

Soul Man
01-10-2005, 05:10 PM
hey dont mess with the tib its still a nice car, although this thing has blown it away currently, looks great to me, although i think they should have made the rear wheels an inch bigger, i mean it would have no performance enhancement (probably more hurting to performance) but this things rear is big, and i think with bigger rims it would probably make the car look more correct<br>well i dont know if putting bigger rear rims is the smartest thing to do overall, but they need to do something, with that rear end it appears, but ill reserve my final judgement until i see it in the flesh

Player4
01-10-2005, 05:53 PM
<B>2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS</B><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044111_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044111_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011043884_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011043884_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044133_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044133_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044153_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044153_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044174_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044174_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044216_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044216_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044195_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044195_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044236_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044236_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044257_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044257_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044299_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044299_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044278_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044278_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044526_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044526_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044545_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044545_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044567_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044567_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044590_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044590_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044612_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044612_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.AutoDeadLine.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AutoDeadLine.com</A>

spwolf
01-10-2005, 06:01 PM
design is strange and doesnt really look well, interior is also strange and cheap looking from the pics BUT overall it is different and overall pleasing... good price and performance and it will sell ok.

Player4
01-10-2005, 06:02 PM
<B>Bold Styling And Dynamic Performance Drive Introduction Of Fourth-Generation Mitsubishi Eclipse</B><br>Aggressive Design Targets Both Upscale And Younger Consumers With Passion For Driving <p><br><I>January 10, 2005 -- Detroit -- Bringing a futuristic concept to life in a powerful way, Mitsubishi Motors North America, Inc. (MMNA) today introduced its next-generation Eclipse sporty coupe at the 2005 North American International Auto Show. The 2006 Eclipse shocks the senses, featuring an eye-catching bold design and dynamic performance enhancements that take the nameplate's legendary status among import sport enthusiasts to new heights. Mitsubishi has integrated refined power, futuristic styling and dynamic handling in the fourth-generation Eclipse to appeal to both upscale, affluent consumers and younger drivers who exhibit a passion for driving and life every day. <p><B>THE LEGEND LIVES ON</B><p>" Since its introduction in 1990, the Eclipse has captured the minds and hearts of countless import sport coupe buyers yearning for a fun vehicle to drive, without compromising style or sophistication," said Rich Gilligan, president and CEO of Mitsubishi Motors North America. <p>The fourth-generation model promises to do the same. Its energy is fueled by a muscular disposition and design cues coupled with more power, superb handling prowess and smooth ride characteristics. Drivers are wrapped in a sleek, revolutionary cockpit that personifies Mitsubishi's commitment to innovation and functional design. The vehicle is expected to be available in showrooms by mid-2005. <p><B>BREAKTHROUGH EXTERIOR STYLING</B><p>Eclipse design engineers were charged with creating a vehicle with a smooth, organic feel, but with aggressive design cues that clearly identified it as a Mitsubishi product. The result is a muscular look that is sure to turn heads, exuding both attitude and sophistication. The underlying structure is shrink-wrapped with a clean tight skin, giving the Eclipse a distinctive athletic look. An arched roofline and flexed surfaces exude energy that just begs someone to drive the vehicle. <p>An integrated rear spoiler is standard on Eclipse GS and GT models and its wedged, teardrop shape gives the vehicle an even more aggressive look. Sporty air intakes and a single oversized, stainless steel tailpipe (GT) add more attitude. A split grille, techno head and tail lamps with chrome surfaces and clear lenses cap the vehicle's sex appeal.<p>The new Eclipse features an exciting, modern exterior color palette aligned with Mitsubishi's global color direction, in addition to feature colors designed to enhance the vehicle's identity. These include UV Blue and Rotor-Glow Pearl.<p><B>POWER AND PERFORMANCE</B><p>The 2006 Eclipse enjoys several power and performance enhancements designed to raise the adrenaline levels of driver and passengers alike. The Eclipse GT features the most powerful V6 engine in its class, and both Eclipse GS and GT models feature MIVEC (Mitsubishi Innovative Variable timing and lift Electronic Control) engine technology. With the aid of variable valve timing, engine performance is optimized throughout the power band with improved low-speed torque and high-rev power. Emissions also were reduced as the Eclipse GS now is classified as an Ultra-Low Emissions Vehicle (ULEV). Both powerplants provide strong off-the-line acceleration and passing power, building driver confidence and boosting the fun-to-drive quotient. <p>The new Eclipse features a highly rigid body that for the first time implements a flat-shape, stamped cross member structure. Combined with a wider track, the rigid construction significantly improves handling and stability without sacrificing ride comfort. A front MacPherson strut and low-mount multilink rear suspension provide a flat ride with nimble and articulate handling, while an increased suspension stroke improves traction and reduces harshness on uneven road surfaces. Front and rear stabilizer bars are standard, helping keep all four corners fixed to the road and increasing feedback to the driver. Vented front and rear brakes (GT) allow for better heat dissipation. The Eclipse comes with standard 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels and seven-spoke, 18-inch premium wheels are available on the GT trim line. <p><B>SPORTY YET SOPHISTICATED INTERIOR </B><p>Step into the new Eclipse and enter into the future of cockpit form and function. High back sport seats with aggressive bolsters and integrated headrests position the driver in front of a four-spoke steering wheel and stylized instrument panel akin to a floating wave. Its soft-touch feel gives the instrument panel an even more upscale appearance. Motorcycle-inspired gauges backlit in Ice Blue complement the instrument panel, providing an aggressive edge. <p>Three distinct interior color schemes are available to match driver tastes: a Techno-Sports (charcoal) is targeted toward the youth market and influenced by active wear products; a Hi-Q (medium gray) theme is geared toward technology-savvy consumers; and an Avant-Garde (terra cotta) theme is for sophisticated drivers with a flair for interior design.<p><B>MODELS AND EQUIPMENT<p>Eclipse GS</B><p>The new Mitsubishi Eclipse GS is affordably priced, but still loaded with a myriad performance, styling and technology features not found on other vehicles in its price range. Under the hood is a 162-horsepower, 2.4-liter, 16-valve MIVEC engine that produces 162 pound-feet of torque. Drivers have a choice of either a five-speed manual or four-speed automatic transmission with Sportronic mode, allowing drivers to experience sporty, positive-feeling manually actuated shifts with a simple push or pull of the shift lever. Other standard performance and styling features include four-wheel disc brakes, an anti-lock braking system, 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels and 225/50R17 all season tires.<p>Enter the vehicle with the keyless entry system and standard equipment inside includes air conditioning, cruise control, power windows and door locks, leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob, eight-way manually adjustable driver's seat with adjustable lumbar support, 50/50 split fold-down rear seatback, sport fabric interior and a 140-watt AM/FM/CD player with six speakers.<p>Standard passenger safety features include driver and front passenger advanced airbags with passenger sensing system, front seat mounted side-impact airbags and front seat curtain airbags, front seat belt pretensioners, three-point seat belts for all occupants, height-adjustable front shoulder belts and tethers for a child safety seat. <p>An optional Sun & Sound Package is available for the Eclipse GS. It includes a power sliding sunroof, center display with outside temperature and compass, electrochromatic rearview mirror and a premium 650-watt Rockford Fosgate audio system featuring nine speakers, a 10-inch subwoofer, equalizer, steering wheel audio controls, in-dash six-disc CD changer with MP3 capability. <p><B>Eclipse GT</B><p>Mitsubishi's new Eclipse GT continues the nameplate's legacy as the epitome of performance and style in the import sport coupe segment. It features a 260-horsepower, 3.8-liter, 24-valve MIVEC engine that produces 260 pound-feet of torque. The GT trim level includes the choice of a six-speed manual or five-speed automatic transmission with Sportronic shifting. <p>Also available on the Eclipse GT is a premium sport fabric interior and the Premium Sport Package. It includes a power glass sliding sunroof, heated leather front seating surfaces, auto climate control, heated side view mirrors and electrochromatic rearview mirror, aluminum pedals, 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels with 235/45 R18 tires, and the Rockford Fosgate premium audio system.<p>Mitsubishi Motors and Rockford Fosgate have teamed up to offer a high fidelity/high output audio system for the 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse. A leader in aftermarket car audio systems for 25 years, Rockford Fosgate offers Eclipse buyers their aggressive "Punch" sonic signature, delivering dynamic output with high impact bass. The Eclipse's optional premium audio system features 650-watt amplification with nine-speakers including a 10-inch, long-throw subwoofer in a fiberglass reinforced, bass-reflex-enclosure. The six-disc, in-dash CD changer plays MP3 files on CD-Rs. In addition to the usual bass, midrange, treble, fader, and balance controls, the Eclipse's advanced Digital Signal Processor (DSP) gives the user total control over the subwoofer "punch" level. It offers custom music genre equalizer settings and sound field image settings including: Normal, Stage, Live, and Hall. The Rockford Fosgate system also offers an industry-first DSP sound setting memory function that allows users to configure all eight DSP settings and save them in six preset locations for their favorite CDs, artists, or music genres. <br></I><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.AutoDeadLine.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AutoDeadLine.com</A><br>

VexedandGlorious
01-10-2005, 06:39 PM
This is nice, its what a eclipse should be,<p>sporty<br>cute<br>and cool at the same time, but the interior doesnt follow up to much,<p>thats a big sunroof,

Charger
01-10-2005, 07:00 PM
Wow, silver looks great on the Eclipse. I hope this is a good seller for Mitsu and helps them get back on their feet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

Roadster44
01-10-2005, 07:20 PM
I hope this car works and I suspect it will. But personally I see too much Scion influence. I'd have liked sharper lines. I mean what's the deal with all these cars, Nissan's concept also looks almost identical to these too.

Shrek
01-10-2005, 07:43 PM
I agree the whole front looks like the Scion TC

Rugbyplaya91
01-10-2005, 09:04 PM
anybody have pics of the spyder/droptop?

Naga Royal Guard
01-10-2005, 09:39 PM
not yet, but probably w/in a year<p>dont care for this at all, but i hope it does well for mitsu's sake

Poledancer
01-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Am I alone in thinking this car is not that great looking? The front is actually nice in silver and the doors are interesting, but the butt is just so damn BIG. A sports coupe with this cab-forward design needs a small rear overhang, and this looks as though it was artificially extended as an afterthought to increase luggage space. Sort of reminds me of the McLaren F1 LeMans, whose back was extended by ~1m to improve the aerodynamics <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

evomk8
01-11-2005, 07:34 AM
IMHO, the overall design works well. Granted the front can be compared to the Tc, however, auto design has become polarized in recent years.<br>The only sore spot,IMO, are the headlights. Too big and only single cluster... gives the car a bit of a "Duh..." look...

syclone
01-11-2005, 08:59 AM
I think its more cohesive than the concept. Still comes up looking like it just missed the mark, overall though. I think its in the details. Still, much better than the previous design. I agree that it hasn't completely lost its chick car image, though. Performance seems like it will be quite good. Hopefully the price will stay down - materials don't seem to justify anything above $25k.<p>IMO, they should have gone with a detuned turbo four from the EVO instead of a V6.

AM2
01-11-2005, 09:10 AM
Looks sporty.... I see a bit of the rounded mid-90's Eclipse in the styling(rear windows/proportions).<br><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005011044299_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autopointer.com/docs/dealers/usedcardealers/automile/98MitsuEclipseGST-09.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

knihc2008
01-11-2005, 04:50 PM
eh? the front could have been much cleaner. the rear is just a disaster, ill proportioned. i can't imagine how the rear visability will suffer because of those high haunches.

Tman2
01-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Poledancer, you are not alone. I don't like the looks of this car at all. The PT Cruiser/HHR/RX-8 wheel arches for the front wheels don't work for me. This kind of detail, to me, is meant for hot rods, model Ts, etc. Might as well have velocity stacks poking through the hood, or a vertical windshield.<br>The window pillar behind the A-pillar... what is the point of this? The rear is fat and bulbous. The part I do like is the C-Pillar. Very reminiscent of earlier Eclipse. (not the one that went V-6, but the 4-cylinder one).<br>I really do wish Mitsubishi the best, but I don't think their future is very bright based on all their recent designs. This car bugs me as much as the FT-SX. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-11-2005, 09:48 PM
this comes when the Celica GTS is leaving, so sad :(

knicks125
01-11-2005, 11:10 PM
Yep, Celica will be missed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

MrMGMan
01-12-2005, 06:22 AM
Am I the only person to see hints of the McLaren Mercedes SLR in the interior design of the new Eclipse?

SV
01-12-2005, 06:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrMGMan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am I the only person to see hints of the McLaren Mercedes SLR in the interior design of the new Eclipse?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>no, i noticed it too. the way the soft part of the dashboard has an intended slapped-on look to it and can come in different colors...i know what you're talking about.

jro4566
01-12-2005, 07:05 AM
I'm very surprised how Mitsubishi stayed true to the concept - something that is rare in this industry.

evomk8
01-12-2005, 07:19 AM
I forgot to mention... actually like the way the interior looks.<br>IMHO, comments about the interior materials are premature. You gotta feel it up ( :D ) to really be able to give a <b>qualified</b> opinion.

AXLE
01-12-2005, 07:25 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> I really don't know wether I like it or hate it. I guess it is so and so.

Christopher
01-12-2005, 09:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, i noticed it too. the way the soft part of the dashboard has an intended slapped-on look to it and can come in different colors...i know what you're talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I thought I was going to be the first person to mention it. Even the vents look similar. I hope Mitsubishi Australia gets the new Eclipse.

Top Secret
01-12-2005, 11:21 PM
I'm sure it will - Mitsubishi needs a sporty car to up their reputation, I mean, the only exciting car in the whole Mitsu lineup in Aus is the EVO, and theres only a 100 a year!<p>Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I think this is off the Galant platform right?

Tman2
01-13-2005, 04:04 AM
Yeah... R.I.P. Celica....<br>The outgoing model was just awesome to me... light weight, awesome looks, awesome handling, and decent power. Everything I was looking for in a car.

Monkey
01-13-2005, 06:43 AM
Any word on a possible Spyder model?

[AP]adiweb
01-13-2005, 10:16 AM
Yep, looks good, especially the interior, very nice for a Mitsubishi. But why do so many new cars need to get those horrible white backlights? They just piss me off <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> too much is too much, car manufacturers should use good old red again imo.

jro4566
01-13-2005, 03:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Monkey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any word on a possible Spyder model?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Don't worry, a Spyder will be coming soon. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

GerjurdKing
01-13-2005, 06:07 PM
I like it though the rear does look a tad TT-ish...

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 02:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Poledancer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am I alone in thinking this car is not that great looking? The front is actually nice in silver and the doors are interesting, but the butt is just so damn BIG. A sports coupe with this cab-forward design needs a small rear overhang, and this looks as though it was artificially extended as an afterthought to increase luggage space. Sort of reminds me of the McLaren F1 LeMans, whose back was extended by ~1m to improve the aerodynamics <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Amen. The design is WAY too cab-forward. I like how they brought back the side glass profile from the old Eclipse, but other than that I really have nothing nice to say. The grille makes the car look like a catfish... and are we still not over the clear rear lenses fad??? The swath of red plastic inside can't mask the fact that this interior design is dull and cheap. Mistubishi is doomed.

knihc2008
01-16-2005, 02:35 PM
saw the eclipse in person at the la auto show. it is at first jaw dropping in a weird way. the butt is way too big for its own right, and the front looks infinitely better without the side skirts. the interior looks very high quality, the rear lights look great. the cab-forwardness works in person, but the butt does not.<p>should be a blistering success, given the reception it was given at the show.

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 02:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>should be a blistering success, given the reception it was given at the show.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Didn't see this one at the show... but for Mitsu's sake, let's <I>hope</I> it's a success.<p>And don't get me wrong... <I>anything</I> is better than the current Eclipse. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by DoMiNo at 3:25 PM 1/16/2005</i>

coolbluelb
01-16-2005, 07:28 PM
Definately an improvement over the current generation, but I fear sales will be tempered by the success of the new Mustang.

nismo
01-16-2005, 10:03 PM
Not Bad. In the Autoshow pics it has a skirt kit, I wonder if thats an option or just for the show because the Eclipses in the other pictures are missing it. The black and red interior looks real nice while the gray on gray one is extremely dull. I hope it sells though, mitsu's not bad. They just better keep the price in check.<br> <br>Also, does anyone know if the 4cylinder is from the joint deal with Hyundai and DC?

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 11:16 PM
Yea actually the rims in the Auto Show pics are different, as well... helps a bit. An option, or just for show? <p>I don't know if the Mustang will take many more sales from this next-gen Eclipse. The GT may best it in horsepower but I expect the Eclipse will be a much better handler. And besides, the Eclipse is more of a chick car, especially compared with the new 'stang.

g35driver
01-26-2005, 10:43 AM
I agree domino, that this eclipse won't really be affected by the 'stang much. I think that these cars have completely different buyers. This new eclipse is for two groups of people; the sport compact/tuner set (with which I am sure the v6 will be popular) and young professional women. Whereas I think the 'stang will be more for musclecar fans and middle aged men (read:midlife crisis car!).<p>I also echo Naga's sentiment; it's sad to see this finally come as the Celica exits the market. That was a damn fine car, I enjoyed my gts for four years! What a great car, totally fun, totally reliable, great in corners..with my only complaints being shoddy paint and a lack of power (particularly low-end torque). Of course, as my user name would imply, I've addressed my craving for power... with a new g35 6mt coupe in 'desert platinum'.. Gotta love it! However I actually think the celica was a more solid car overall.. <p>The thing I really like about this new eclipse is that they've really gone back to the theme of the gen2. The overall stance and silouette are very much the same. Even the wheelbase looks the same, this is readily apparent in AM2's post. The gen2 was very popular and it is predictable that mitsu would go this route, as they had a hit in that car.<p>Comparisons to the TT's backside are inevitable, but when you think about it, the gen2 eclipse had an equally bulbous tail with relatively little surface detail (and tail-lights borrowed from the '95 supra). The overhangs front/rear are much the same in the new car. I also see a bit of celica in the sideglass, as well as a similar shape to the gen2 eclipse. The way the glass dips into the car's beltline. It's a shame about the headlights on this car tho, they look like ones off the (gladly) deceased chevy cavalier.. The tail-lights are cool tho, much better than the TT's, with a more fluid shape to them.<p>All and all this is a decent interpretation of the concept e, which I still like better than this production version. The concept had the rear wheelwells pushed a little further back from the doors and it made the overhangs less visually dominant.<p>The interior looks excellent , if also vaguely celica'ish (wrap around dash, gauge binnacle resembling a motorcycle fairing, center console shape, seats).<p>I hope they bring back 4wd and a 4cyl turbo (from the evo?). It's nice to see a boy racer's eclipse again. The outgoing model was too much of a luxury GT, too cushy, too mushy in corners, too heavy,etc.. The new model definitely conveys a different impression. Hopefully the performance will live up to the look..<p>My only gripe is that I can't believe they were only able to squeeze 260hp from a 3.8lt v6! My G makes over 280 from a 3.5! ..odd. Maybe they're leaving some room for the tuners, offering this engine in a 'de-tuned' state(?).<br>

DoMiNo
01-26-2005, 06:51 PM
As I assume this engine was pulled from the Galant, I think a 30hp increase is commendable. Besides, do you really need more than 260hp in this car? You may be right, though, in that Mitsu may be waiting to up the power.... with Endeavor and Galant getting the Ralliart treatment, can a Ralliart Eclipse be far behind?

knicks125
01-26-2005, 07:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I assume this engine was pulled from the Galant, I think a 30hp increase is commendable. Besides, do you really need more than 260hp in this car? You may be right, though, in that Mitsu may be waiting to up the power.... with Endeavor and Galant getting the Ralliart treatment, can a Ralliart Eclipse be far behind?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Horsepower need to be taken into consideration along with its torque, weight of the car, etc. So 260 might be plenty on the eclipse, pending its torque. I don't know what the specs are for the new eclipse but if its torque is weak, then 260hp on a 3.8L engine is weak as well, considering some of the other engines that are around. One worth mention is Hyundai's Lambda V6 CVVT eninge, on the new Sonata - 3.3L, 237hp, torque, (still estimated) 224 lb-ft. Given the weight of this sedan, it pushes in the upper 6s/low 7s (from variable sources) from 0-60, better than accords and camrys. Not that is something I think Mitsu should have strived for, especially since it is on the brink of trouble again...<p>We'll have wait and see the final specs for this car, it looks really good, but then again, to create a market and generate good sale numbers, the overall value should be liked by many, and its power dept should be up to par (aganist compeitors) as well, if not better.

DoMiNo
01-27-2005, 02:29 AM
According to Mistubishi, it's 263hp and 260ft/lb torque! That will scoot it right along, I'd say. <p>In fact, G35, ya better watch your rear view <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
01-27-2005, 06:59 AM
In some ways it's better than the current Eclipse, but the rear end is too bulbous. This will not save Mitsubishi. The Eclipse and the EVO are not going to sell well enough to carry the company. The Galant/Endeavor/Lancer all have strange styling or outdated styling in the Lancer's case. Their new pickup will hit the market with a thud. The Hyundai Tiburon is much nicer looking and the Mustang is much better performing than the Eclipse.

DoMiNo
01-27-2005, 06:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In some ways it's better than the current Eclipse, but the rear end is too bulbous. This will not save Mitsubishi. The Eclipse and the EVO are not going to sell well enough to carry the company. The Galant/Endeavor/Lancer all have strange styling or outdated styling in the Lancer's case. Their new pickup will hit the market with a thud. The Hyundai Tiburon is much nicer looking and the Mustang is much better performing than the Eclipse. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hey, it's not for everyone. But it's unmistakable; it's got a unique identity that a lot of people may appreciate. I especially see a lot of girls liking this car (which is not meant as a bad thing... though I personally find it a little ungainly). I guarantee it won't suffer because of Tiburon sales... that is certain. And as we established above, the Mustang appeals to an entirely different set of buyers. <p>You're right, this won't stop the bleeding at Mitsu, but maybe it will slow it down so they can overhaul their product line and rethink their obviously-ineffective strategy. Does anyone remember Nissan a few years ago? If Mitsubishi takes some time to find itself and restructure, good things can happen.

mzoltarp
01-29-2005, 07:40 AM
Mitsubishi will be gobbled up sooner or later.

DoMiNo
01-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Perhaps... but now we know DCX is done with her...

MUGEN
01-29-2005, 02:14 PM
The design looks nice, but that heavy V6 is a little too much. They can get the same hp by using a 4-cylinder engine, like the 2nd generation. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In fact, G35, ya better watch your rear view. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nah! I don't think so. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-29-2005, 02:16 PM
they already have some good turbo 4s they SHOULD put in this thing to kill the competition

mzoltarp
01-30-2005, 07:16 AM
The Eclipse has a history of being a secretary car as does the V6 Mustang. Granted the import tuner boys won't look at a Mustang and the musclecar guys wont look at an Eclipse. BUT both Ford and Mitsubishi will be looking to 20 something single women for a major portion of their buyer base.

spwolf
02-01-2005, 02:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>then 260hp on a 3.8L engine is weak as well, considering some of the other engines that are around. One worth mention is Hyundai's Lambda V6 CVVT eninge, on the new Sonata - 3.3L, 237hp, torque, (still estimated) 224 lb-ft. Given the weight of this sedan, it pushes in the upper 6s/low 7s (from variable sources) from 0-60, better than accords and camrys. Not that is something I think Mitsu should have strived for, especially since it is on the brink of trouble again...<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>jesus christ, now Eclipse is being compared to Sonata... I nearly expect that next comparison is with pickup truck. Actually Sonata's "new" engine doesnt brake any new grounds, pushed up hp for NA market (world specs list hp at 230 bhp), with mid-level torque... While Eclipse's engine is much more powerful at 260hp/tq.<p>We need to take it easy with comparing apples to bananas and advertising same model accross several threads. While it is ok to compare to similar cars, this is just infestation.

thegreep
02-01-2005, 03:38 PM
I really don't mind the styling of this car, but I have one question: <p>What's with the 2 piece side windows? I thought we got rid of those when trucks stopped using them. <p>I know what the tuners will say though, "Hmm I could fit 10" subs in the doors. . .

knicks125
02-01-2005, 05:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>jesus christ, now Eclipse is being compared to Sonata... I nearly expect that next comparison is with pickup truck. Actually Sonata's "new" engine doesnt brake any new grounds, pushed up hp for NA market (world specs list hp at 230 bhp), with mid-level torque... While Eclipse's engine is much more powerful at 260hp/tq.<p>We need to take it easy with comparing apples to bananas and advertising same model accross several threads. While it is ok to compare to similar cars, this is just infestation.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Like I said, I was focusing way too much on the Sonata when i wrote that post. <p>If you would read my post carefully, I wasn't really comparing the eclipse to the Sonata, rather it was commenting on its engine. Anyways, I just think with such a big engine, 3.8L, and still only producing 263hp, that's just a little too low, IMO. Someone pointed out, the G35 pushes 298 horse with a 3.5L engine.

hokman
02-01-2005, 05:22 PM
definately the best Mitsubishi design in 10 years (since the FTO), I'm extremely happy the company is coming back instead of just living off the lancer evolution. Just look at how the big mouth hints at the huge engine behind it. Maybe a bit too huge, oh well at least the style is there. This is the the first time a striking looking coupe since the celica. Remember how the celica strikes you when you first look at it. But it still looks fresh and cyber today and beside the new eclipse. The design was lightyears ahead of its time. Look at the extremely mundane and cheap integra and you'll understand. It's great to see the innovative mitsubishi coming back.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hokman at 4:38 PM 2/1/2005</i>

hokman
02-01-2005, 05:29 PM
One good advice to mitsubishi is that since this car also uses a MIVEC V6 like the FTO, make a 2000cc version of the engine and sell it as the NEW FTO in some countries like hong kong or UK. It'll be a hit. The 3.8L engine won't sell in the whole world except in the Dreamworld known as America. The market is hungry for cheap coupes, do you see how much cheap coupes died in the last 10 years? silvia, corolla coupe, fto, calibra, fiat coupe. It's all a shame why these great cars died. They all should reborn!!<br>Let's start with a new FTO and ECLIPSE.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hokman at 4:36 PM 2/1/2005</i>

DoMiNo
02-02-2005, 03:04 PM
The FTO was far better looking than this car.

knicks125
02-02-2005, 03:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The FTO was far better looking than this car.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think so <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r3vilo
02-03-2005, 09:28 AM
this is a great car, mitsu should do well<br>

spwolf
02-03-2005, 10:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Like I said, I was focusing way too much on the Sonata when i wrote that post. <p>If you would read my post carefully, I wasn't really comparing the eclipse to the Sonata, rather it was commenting on its engine. Anyways, I just think with such a big engine, 3.8L, and still only producing 263hp, that's just a little too low, IMO. Someone pointed out, the G35 pushes 298 horse with a 3.5L engine.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>why is it low? G35 is an expensive car that sells for 10k more than what Eclipse will... It also is pretty heavy at 3500lbs. Its torque is actually same as Eclipse's - 260.<p>Actually if pricing of better model goes up by 1k-2k it will still be an steal and should be plenty faster than G35 due to lower weight and same torque...<p>Of course, if you want faster Mitsu, you probably want Evo anyway...

spwolf
02-03-2005, 10:55 AM
p.s. hp wars are going crazy... there is no way in hell i would by my kid anything with more than 200hp, even as 3rd car!

Andre
02-03-2005, 11:59 AM
Nissan's 3.5 is an award winning design, and acknowledged as one of the best engines ever developed. Many companys with 3.8L V6s up until now have been getting 200-210 Horsepower and about 250 lb/ft of torque. The Hyundai engine coming is supposed to break from this mold with 250 HP or more. Horsepower wars are getting crazy, butin a good way, engines are also getting more efficient.<p>20 years ago a 3.8L V6 would get 150 Horsepower, and 15 MPG, now 250 HP and 23 MPG average, Imagine in 20 years it will be 350 HP and 35 MPG<p>the Mitsubishi 3.8 with 260 HP seems to be a wonderful development for the company, and the industry.

knicks125
02-03-2005, 01:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">p.s. hp wars are going crazy... there is no way in hell i would by my kid anything with more than 200hp, even as 3rd car!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>let your kids buy his/her own car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>then you won't have a guilty conscience <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
02-03-2005, 03:13 PM
I intend for my kids to get hand me down midsize cars with four cylinders. I don't mind over 200 HP as long as it's four cylinders and the car is "tame" (Not like the EVO and STi)

hokman
02-03-2005, 03:16 PM
Spwolf, you are one nice parent, letting your kid drive a Caterham Super 7 with 130hp, rather than a V6 family car with over 200hp.

hokman
02-03-2005, 03:17 PM
Andre, what's wrong with having a sweet V6. Like I said, 3.8 is too big for a front drive car especially a sporty medium coupe, and they should make the 2.0 V6 MIVEC like i've said!!!And the engines are more powerful because the cars are getting heavier and heavier. One day a family car could be the weight of a lorry. The current vectra is about 3200lbs, 300 lbs over the old one? But of course it's a much better car.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hokman at 2:22 PM 2/3/2005</i>

Andre
02-03-2005, 03:40 PM
Create a thread in the lounge for talk about what to give your kids, keep going on about the Eclipse here

Chicho
02-13-2005, 08:58 AM
Would there be a dodge version, like old eclipse?<br>

Charger
02-13-2005, 09:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Chicho</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would there be a dodge version, like old eclipse?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Probably not because DCX is cancelling the Sebring/Status coupe and most other coupes.

LEXUS FAN!
02-13-2005, 11:36 AM
when is the convertible debuting?

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 01:14 PM
I am curious what this weighs. The current version is the fat boy in int's class as it is. I think it's going to be heavy being that Mitzu doesn't have the financial resources for light weight materials. Too bad it couldn't have arrived before DCX crapped on them.

JBlair
02-13-2005, 01:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am curious what this weighs. The current version is the fat boy in int's class as it is. I think it's going to be heavy being that Mitzu doesn't have the financial resources for light weight materials. Too bad it couldn't have arrived before DCX crapped on them. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It shouldn't weigh too much more than the Galant, since they are based on the same platform.

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 01:26 PM
but it will weigh more than the current one which was always too heavy.

JBlair
02-13-2005, 02:03 PM
3300 pounds is hardly overweight, especially for a car this size. (for the current model that is). Based on the Galant's weight, the new one should only weigh 100-200 pounds more, if even that.

LEXUS FAN!
02-13-2005, 02:39 PM
3300 pounds is kind of a lot<p>for 400 more pounds, you could get a mid-size luxury sedan, and for 600 more pounds you could get a full size luxury sedan

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 03:50 PM
yeah, 3300 is quite a bit, especially when in the FWD coupe segment. Kind of a wide body.