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Philsshon
01-08-2005, 10:06 PM
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<i>Modified by Ascariss at 9:32 PM 1/8/2005</i>

Dan J.
01-08-2005, 10:10 PM
I like the interior of this alot more than the Lincoln Zephyr. Good job Ford.<br>If this drives as well as my 6 Ford definantly have a winner. When will specification information be availabele?

JBlair
01-08-2005, 10:11 PM
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This does justice to this platform (after the Zephyr), and looks way better than Camry or Accord. Way to go! interior looks good too, with high-quality materials (c-max vents made it in), and a good design.

RetroJapan
01-08-2005, 10:13 PM
Very nice...<p>Mainstream in appearance, but lots of cool little details that make it a little different from the competition...Nice job by Ford...

Ascariss
01-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Press Release:<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/ford/fusion/fusion_info.doc" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...o.doc</A>

JBlair
01-08-2005, 10:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 2006 Ford Fusion breathes a fresh attitude into the American mid-size car. It distinguishes itself in what is the most competitive of vehicle segments with its standout exterior design and engaging driving dynamics. Fusion brings to the segment good fuel economy, advanced safety, clean emissions and roomy interior space  all at an attractive value.<p>The Fusion was inspired by the Ford 427 concept.<p><br> <p>Fusion's charcoal-black leather interior is one of three unique cabin environments available.<p><br> <br>The design of the Fusion was inspired by the Ford 427 concept, a runaway hit with recent auto show crowds.<p>Fusion takes several design cues from the 427, especially its bold three-bar grille and multi-element projector-beam headlamps. The concept car also inspired Fusion's optional charcoal-black leather interior with contrasting oatmeal-colored seat stitching.<p>The new Fusion takes a central position between the award-winning Focus and the flagship Five Hundred sedan. As J Mays, group vice president of Design and chief creative officer, puts it, "Even standing still, the Fusion looks like it's ready to burst out of the blocks. The strong, muscular three-bar chrome grille sets the tone for a bold new look that will change the mid-size sedan segment."<p>ROOMY INTERIOR<p>Inside, Fusion challenges the class leaders in roominess, including front shoulder room, rear seat legroom and trunk space. <p>A choice of three distinct interior themes allows customers to personalize their driving environment.<p>On all models, a variety of high-end features are available, including tilt-and-telescope steering wheel, heated front seats and a six-disc in-dash CD player that also reads MP3-encoded audio discs.<p>GREAT TO DRIVE<p> <br>Fusion's well-planted stance conveys its rewarding driving personality.<p> <br>Satisfying ride and rewarding handling begin with a stiff chassis, and Fusion boasts torsional rigidity 12.7 percent higher than the already outstanding base architecture. This allows the four-wheel independent suspension to absorb driving harshness and respond more precisely to steering inputs.<p>"The Fusion's steering is responsive and agile," explains Brian Vought, Fusion chief engineer. "We spent a lot of time to get just the right steering feel." <p>Four-wheel power disc brakes are standard on Fusion, and a 4-sensor, 3-channel anti-lock braking system (ABS) with electronic brake force distribution (EBD) is optional.<p><br>Fusion's Duratec 23 I-4 provides great torque and highway fuel economy in the 30s.<p> <p>Fusion's Duratec 30 V-6 makes 210 hp and is mated to an advanced six-speed automatic transaxle.<p> <br>The soul of any driver's car is its engine, and Fusion offers a choice of Ford's 2.3-liter Duratec 23 I-4 or 3.0-liter Duratec 30 V-6. Both feature all-aluminum construction, dual overhead cams, four valves per cylinder, intake Variable Cam Timing (i-VCT) and electronic throttle control to deliver smooth, spirited performance, along with good fuel economy and emissions ratings.<p>The four-cylinder engine delivers 160 horsepower, and can be paired with a five-speed manual or automatic transaxle. Also good news for the environment, the Duratec 23 I-4 will be rated as a Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle (PZEV) in California. It will be the Ford brand's third PZEV application, after the Escape Hybrid and Focus PZEV.<p>For even more power, there's the 210-horsepower 3.0-liter V-6, which is paired with an advanced six-speed automatic transaxle. <p></TD></TR></TABLE>

JBlair
01-08-2005, 10:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ADVANCED SAFETY TECHNOLOGIES<p>Fusion benefits from some of the latest safety technologies available  from cutting-edge metallurgy to air bags. For example, the Fusion is designed to meet stringent new side-impact tests.<p>Fusion's B-pillars are made by welding two blanks of steel end-to-end  resulting in a stronger top of the vehicle and more flexible bottom. This facilitates energy absorption during a crash below the level of the occupants. The strong steel structure at the torso level and above helps prevent intrusion into the passenger compartment.<p>Inside, Fusion has a long list of advanced safety technologies to protect occupants. They include Ford's Personal Safety System with dual deployment front air bags, energy-absorbing safety belts and load-limiting retractors.<p><br>PEOPLE AND CARGO CAPABLE<p>Inside, engineers set out to maximize the spaciousness of Ford's all-new CD3 architecture for all occupants, stretching the width 30 millimeter (1.18 inches) and the length 55 millimeter (2.17 inches) to challenge the class leaders in key interior dimensions such as front shoulder room, rear-seat legroom and trunk space.<p><br>Fusion designers also worked hard to ensure passengers can slip into the back seat with ease. In a packaging exercise, the designers even donned size 14 shoes to confirm that someone with that foot size could enter and exit without brushing the B-pillar scuff plate or the back of the front seat. Their goal was achieved by pushing the rear door as far back toward the C-pillar as possible. It's this kind of attention to detail that contributes to the overall package ingenuity of the Fusion, including such standard ergonomic niceties as a height-adjustable driver's seat and a tilt-and-telescope steering wheel.<p><br>In addition to carrying people in comfort, Fusion is capable of making quick work of cargo. Its roomy 15.8-cubic-foot trunk boasts a flat load floor and low liftover height with compact decklid hinges that won't crush boxes or groceries. What's more, the rear seats feature a standard 60/40 split and fold-flat function with spring assist, allowing pass-through access to handle extra long items and provide best-in-class storage space.<p><br>DIGITAL DEVELOPMENT, SMART MANUFACTURING<p>The 2006 Ford Fusion is the company's first fully "digital" car. It was completely designed, engineered and tested for manufacture in a digital environment  using the most advanced design tools available for precision, quality and efficiency.<p><br>By drawing on these new tools and the company's global product development resources, Fusion's engineering team was able to bring the Fusion to market faster than traditional vehicle-development programs.<p><br>ON SALE IN 2005<p>Fusion is the first vehicle from Ford's new CD3 architecture, which will eventually be the basis for up to ten unique vehicles in North America and approximately 800,000 vehicles annually over time. <p>Fusion will be built at Ford's Hermosillo Stamping and Assembly Plant in Mexico.<p>The vehicle will go on sale in the U.S., Canada and Mexico beginning in the fall of 2005.<p>FUSION LEADS FORD INTO THE FUTURE<p>Fusion will continue to make news well into the future with significant drivetrain advances.<p>A year after launch, an optional all-wheel-drive system will be offered.<p>Later, a hybrid powertrain will be added  making Fusion the fourth full hybrid in the Ford Motor Company stable, following the Ford Escape Hybrid, Mercury Mariner Hybrid and Mazda Tribute Hybrid.<br> <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>This and above release from Ford Media

piokor
01-08-2005, 11:03 PM
After the Zephyr, I didn't know how this would turn out. I'm glad to say they did a great job. It even looks better than the Aura...

Top Secret
01-08-2005, 11:08 PM
Reminds me of the Ford 427 concept from the front, and a Mondeo from the rear. I hate those rear lights, but the interior looks top notch. It would've been better if it had a more 'sporting' attitude to it; inside and out, but still, since it is based off the Mazda6 platform (which I strongly object to) it should be a good drive.

JBlair
01-08-2005, 11:13 PM
It is based off the 6 architecture, but it is longer and wider, and is structurally more sound than the 6 is. (the 6 is still a very stiff car, mind you). As Ascariss pointed out, and which I refused to believe until he showed me a comparison of the two, the doorframes and doors of the Fusion are shared with the European Mondeo and are changed only in length since the Fusion is longer.

LEXUS FAN!
01-08-2005, 11:57 PM
surprisingly beautiful...go ford<p>i like the back...it's different

RS
01-09-2005, 12:09 AM
Ford should have talked to me about that front overhang. I could have helped them disguise it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>But seriously, you can't have headlights stretch vertically like on the Infiniti G35 or the Mercury Mountaineer coz they have a very short overhang unlike the Fusion's overhang, which is really long. <br>I would suggest to stretch the headlights horizontally like the Acura did with the TL or Audi A6.<p>Otherwise, the interior is excellent.<br>The rear looks good - not from every angle, but it's good enough.<br>The shape of the whole body is also excellent- sleek and muscular <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

whipster
01-09-2005, 12:59 AM
Here in Europe Fusion is name of a minivan based on Fiesta. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

Dan J.
01-09-2005, 01:20 AM
Since I own a Mazda 6 I was especially interested in this car. After looking at it and the Zephyr I can certainly see the Mazda roots. From the photos I think the car looks nicer than the 6. I'm not sure about the tail lamps yet.<br>Is it just me or does the interior look alot like the Mondeo?<p>Any info on when the Milan pics will be available?

piokor
01-09-2005, 01:20 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.ford.bg/mo/mondeo/foto5.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>The actuall shape of the door may be the same but a little longer, but I don't think they are the same. The shoulder line is at a completely different angle, it's more parallel to the ground in the Mondeo.

nstreet16
01-09-2005, 05:44 AM
Welll looky here...ford actually managed to make a sedan that doesnt look half bad. It needs to grow on u but it works... Very nice lines (perfect for where its at) at certain angles it can be seen as a caddy but thats all good in da neighborhood.... Also two things that bothers me about the car.... 1) The rear lights, the turn signals and the reverse lights are too big and should have been stretched longer and flatter. 2) The speedometer only goes up to 120mph....what type of crap is that?!? I thought Ford by now would change the maximum MPH. O well it is <B>F</B>.ixed <B>O</B>.r <B>R</B>.epaired <B>D</B>.aily <IMG SRC="http://autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/ford/fusion/images/6FordFusion_17_hr.jpg" BORDER="0"> source: Autoweek

Shomare
01-09-2005, 06:02 AM
Havn't I said that the car would be stunning!<p>Glad it's out for public viewing now. The interiour looks great in the photos but wait until you see it in person.<p>Great work Ford. Now if quality is up to par with Honda and Toyota, they are going to loose sales to this car in a major way.

-Peter-
01-09-2005, 06:11 AM
very nice looking Ford <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I see a lot of Mondeo in it, but they have managed to make it even better. Only thing that makes it look little akward are those headlights. maybe they should have made those wider and lower, like in Mondeo<p>I see where they get their inspiration when they designed the interior<p>Mondeo<br><IMG SRC="http://www.ford.fi/mondeo_galleria/mondeo-03-f.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Fusion<br><IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss/fusion02.jpg" BORDER="0">

NDG
01-09-2005, 07:03 AM
I think its very nice. I can't wait to see this on the road. One thing, it looks stunning in black. Imagine if they photographed it in the same color as the Lincoln Zephyr photos? I think the color they chose for the Zephyr photos is crap - I don't think caramel is a luxury car color.

Charger
01-09-2005, 08:06 AM
It would be better with a different grille and back lights.

myredhotcar
01-09-2005, 08:12 AM
It looks okay; should sell ok too. However, just like the five-hundred mimics the old Passat, likewise the fusion (especially the front fenders and profile) copies the old jetta. Should compare favourably with Malibu, Accord and Camry.

jasmo
01-09-2005, 10:42 AM
The new Ford Fusion or the upcoming Saturn Aura...what is a boy to buy??? I love them both!

Roadster44
01-09-2005, 10:56 AM
I see IS300 in the back. We'll see what this car is all about, I hope it will be a lot of fun to drive. Interior looks surprinsgly better built and I sort of like it. Hopefully quality of plastics are good. Ford needs to make sure they extract every advantage possible from their budget to make great cars. Yes they are short on money, but they must do best they can and in 2008 really start to go after the sales with best products possible.

Naga Royal Guard
01-09-2005, 11:07 AM
run go hide time for the Camry, toyota had it coming to them anyway

StephenKHone
01-09-2005, 02:46 PM
I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. The doors look similar to the Euro Mondeo, but I do not think they are the same. Also isn't the Mazda 6 a totally different platform? If so, why would they use the doors from the European car? That doesn't make much sense.

syclone
01-09-2005, 03:04 PM
The V6 needs more than 210hp, but overall I love it.

Ascariss
01-09-2005, 03:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StephenKHone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. The doors look similar to the Euro Mondeo, but I do not think they are the same. Also isn't the Mazda 6 a totally different platform? If so, why would they use the doors from the European car? That doesn't make much sense.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Glasshouse is almost identical to mondeo, the frame of the glasshouse seems to be same as the mondeo version. If it is shared Ford won't say anything is my feeling.

spwolf
01-09-2005, 03:24 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see IS300 in the back. We'll see what this car is all about, I hope it will be a lot of fun to drive. Interior looks surprinsgly better built and I sort of like it. Hopefully quality of plastics are good. Ford needs to make sure they extract every advantage possible from their budget to make great cars. Yes they are short on money, but they must do best they can and in 2008 really start to go after the sales with best products possible. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>looks a bit weird here and there but it is much better than what they had before... Hopefully it will sell up to their expectations...

VexedandGlorious
01-09-2005, 05:00 PM
this the best ford ive seen since i was born!

Krypton
01-09-2005, 05:15 PM
the rear looks really good but something about the fron bothers me, it might be that the bottem half of the front is so short or the front overhang is really short. OVerall for a ford <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
01-09-2005, 07:04 PM
the. best. ford. ever. and i mean it. the interior looks good; the graining on the plastics seem to remind me of the chrysler sebring's, but if it's soft touch then it's all good (i think the buttons along with the graining of the plastics on the fusion come together to remind me of the sebring, but i'm sure the quality is better on the ford; the new EU focus has similar graining judging from the pictures but it's soft touch and good quality) anyway, i simply LOVE this car, 210hp is a bit lacking but at least it's more than the 200hp in the bigger five hundred (210 will do for now until the duratec 35 finally comes). the styling is awesome, which i could already tell from the undisguised pictures, the interior looks good, the engines are actually decent this time, and since it's based on the mazda6 it should have excellent handling. overall this should be a hit for ford, and a more than worthy replacement for the taurus.

RS
01-09-2005, 07:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SLR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...or the front overhang is really short. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Why do you like long front overhangs. Just curious.

Hornbag
01-09-2005, 08:29 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<p>Im so happy im crying, its looks amazing, OMG, Ford have finally done it!! FINALLY!<p>I had a dream mum baught one of these and it was a week before their release, god danm i wish that dream was true. I love Ford, Ford rox, OMG this car looks amazing, im still crying. The quality, the style, its all there. OMG, i want one! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Hornbag_1 at 1:50 PM 1/10/2005</i>

Dodger
01-09-2005, 08:45 PM
I know what you mean. This car is such a departure from normal Ford styling. I think it looks amazing. It puts the new Impala styling to shame. The interior is very nice. The tail lights look good in some pics but then not so good in others. They just need to grow on me a little. I think the AWD version will be a big seller. I can't wait for the reviews on it. I want to see it in a different color than black though.

Top Secret
01-09-2005, 08:46 PM
The question is, will it come to Australia? It <I>could</I> come to challenge the Subaru Liberty and the Accord Euro, and obviously the Holden Vectra. But we wil have to see how Ford Australia thinks of it - but then again, the Ford Mondeo has been out in Europe for ages and I don't see Ford Aus. importing it..

Hornbag
01-09-2005, 08:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The question is, will it come to Australia? It <I>could</I> come to challenge the Subaru Liberty and the Accord Euro, and obviously the Holden Vectra. But we wil have to see how Ford Australia thinks of it - but then again, the Ford Mondeo has been out in Europe for ages and I don't see Ford Aus. importing it..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well if it doesnt come to Australia, then im importing one!!! I want this to be my first car, im about to ring up my nan!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>OMG, i love this car!!!!!!!

StephenKHone
01-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Well let's just agree to disagree shall we? I say they look similar, but there the relationship ends imo. People are also saying that about the Saturn Aura. That it is an Opel/Euro GM design. In fact I believe that is 100% the work of GM North America. However they share certain stylistic similarities, but beyond those they aren't related, other than the fact the platform lurking underneath might have some commonality. <p>Back to the Fusion though. It really is quite a nice piece of work on Ford's part. And the front looks quite original. Ford would do well to develop this frontal design for some of their other cars. It is very distinctive.

Naga Royal Guard
01-09-2005, 09:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>OMG, i love this car!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>im going to the dealer w/ a baseball bat just for you! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
01-09-2005, 10:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StephenKHone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well let's just agree to disagree shall we? I say they look similar, but there the relationship ends imo. People are also saying that about the Saturn Aura. That it is an Opel/Euro GM design. In fact I believe that is 100% the work of GM North America. However they share certain stylistic similarities, but beyond those they aren't related, other than the fact the platform lurking underneath might have some commonality. <p>Back to the Fusion though. It really is quite a nice piece of work on Ford's part. And the front looks quite original. Ford would do well to develop this frontal design for some of their other cars. It is very distinctive.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Aura was designed in Russelsheim Germany by Adam Opel AG. The Fusion likely had the same sort of european influence, since many of Ford's designers are from Europe.

Hornbag
01-09-2005, 10:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>im going to the dealer w/ a baseball bat just for you! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>IM NOT LAUGHFING AND I HAVE A VERY GOOD SENCE OF YUMOR! You should see what i did to the Landcruiser then......... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>arararararar (evil laugh) ahahahahahah <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

StephenKHone
01-09-2005, 10:25 PM
Okay I'll bite! Where did you read that the Aura was the work of Opels designers? I only ask because Ed Welburn who heads up GM design alluded to the fact it was designed stateside. I could be wrong on this issue of course, but could you cut and paste the article where you read that particular tidbit of info? I realize it has a lot of GM euro detailing but could the North American Stylists perhaps have whipped this together with their own specific bodyshell? Just curious as in todays world it seems that it is getting harder and harder to attribute a design soley to one region. The Head of Opel Design is an American right? And before him it was Martin Smith I believe, a Brit.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by StephenKHone at 9:33 PM 1/9/2005</i>

StephenKHone
01-09-2005, 10:35 PM
BTW who ever designed them they are both pretty nice cars imo! Okay back to the Fusion lol!

AM2
01-10-2005, 03:04 AM
The new Ford Fusion will give Chevrolet sleepless nights....<p>Time to give the Malibu a major facelift!

AM2
01-10-2005, 03:08 AM
By the way... Will the Escape, Fivehundred and Freestyle get the slightly stronger 210bhp 3-liter Duratec of the Fusion?<br>

ll0ll
01-10-2005, 06:26 AM
It's no trendsetter. For me the car is to anonymous, the rear is too long and gives me an ford focus 4 door feel, which i think doesnt give me the class i want with a car in this pricerange. The lights and the grill look good, but overall i think the car is too plain.

Monkey
01-10-2005, 06:27 AM
I'm not a Ford fan by any stretch. This one looks plain, except the headlights. However, comparing it to current competitors, and the last Ford in this segment (Contour), I can say it is a step in the right direction.<br>It is better than the overly bland Five Hundred too.

Krypton
01-10-2005, 01:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RS Genesis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Why do you like long front overhangs. Just curious.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>not really, theres something about the front that doesnt look right

RS
01-10-2005, 02:12 PM
oh, I think I know what you mean.<br>Somehow it looks like there is no bumper. The bumper needs to prone forward, but istead it's pulled back and the upper part of the front end leaps forward. Makes it look weak IMO. <br> <br>Should have looked more like this car, which has bigger a bumper :<br><IMG SRC="http://92lude.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/normal_5th_gen_chick.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RS Genesis at 3:31 PM 1/10/2005</i>

Gian86
01-10-2005, 11:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well if it doesnt come to Australia, then im importing one!!! I want this to be my first car, im about to ring up my nan!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>OMG, i love this car!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm really sure this car will not be build in right-hand drive so this car will not be here but well see what happens later.<p>BTW: Last week, i saw the latest mondeo across the road (rear side only) maybe because either someone imported from NZ or ford might import only 1 model for a test drive if people loves it. I dont know??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"><br>Also i don't know if the model i seen is original or facelift version of new mondeo????<br>

Hornbag
01-11-2005, 12:38 AM
<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Gian05</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I'm really sure this car will not be build in right-hand drive so this car will not be here but well see what happens later.<p>BTW: Last week, i saw the latest mondeo across the road (rear side only) maybe because either someone imported from NZ or ford might import only 1 model for a test drive if people loves it. I dont know??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"><br>Also i don't know if the model i seen is original or facelift version of new mondeo????<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>But they might offer right hand drive conversions???<br>Plus, if they bought the Mondeo to Australia then it would effect the sales of the Falcon (the Territory has already done that).<p>But, for now, lets just hope some kool person posts heaps more pictures of the kool Ford Fusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WOHOOOOOO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I love this car...... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

Gian86
01-11-2005, 01:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>But they might offer right hand drive conversions???<br>Plus, if they bought the Mondeo to Australia then it would effect the sales of the Falcon (the Territory has already done that).<p>But, for now, lets just hope some kool person posts heaps more pictures of the kool Ford Fusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WOHOOOOOO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I love this car...... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, i've understand now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

MrMGMan
01-11-2005, 05:57 AM
I'm pleasantly surprised at how this car turned out. Unlike GM, it seems Ford is actually pouring the same amount of effort into its American range as it pours into Europe. Also nice to see a Ford that isn't afraid to use its own unique styling cues, marrying the look of the 427 concept with hints of Mondeo, rather than dipping into 'The Big Book of VW Styling Cues' like the Five Hundred does.

Krypton
01-11-2005, 04:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RS Genesis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh, I think I know what you mean.<br>Somehow it looks like there is no bumper. The bumper needs to prone forward, but istead it's pulled back and the upper part of the front end leaps forward. Makes it look weak IMO. <br> <br>Should have looked more like this car, which has bigger a bumper :<br><IMG SRC="http://92lude.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/normal_5th_gen_chick.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><i>Modified by RS Genesis at 3:31 PM 1/10/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><br>

Hornbag
01-11-2005, 11:10 PM
I said 'lets hope some COOL person posts more pictures of the Fusion'.<p>I cant find any anywhere apart from the 6 that have been posted???

jro4566
01-12-2005, 07:09 AM
210HP is definitely a OK for the class - something that the 200HP Malibu and G6 have taught us. Plus that 6-speed automatic should help significantly. Good job Ford.

Dan J.
01-12-2005, 07:52 AM
I have an 05 Mazda 6 S five door hatch with the 6 speed manual trans. I really enjoy driving the heck out of that thing. I bought it on Dec 8 and already driven 2500 miles in it. It is a great improvement over the 04 Mazda 6 S sedan I had to replace due to a car accident. I am looking foreward to seeing the Fusion, Zypher and Milan in the metal. Has anyone notice that the 6, Fusion and Zypher use the same sheet metal to cover the doors. At least thats what it appears to me.

Kennybr
01-12-2005, 08:17 AM
This is my first time posting so hope this works. <p>Here is a link to some new pics of the Fusion in another color (red or dark orange?). I really like the 2 shots of the grille and headlights. This is going to be a nice seller for Ford.<p>&lt;http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtml/2005/01/10/automobiles/20050111_AUTOSHOW_AUDIOSS.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1105463295-pAWN+2IKmE3VGh0kE9Afyw&gt; <br>

Innotech
01-12-2005, 08:42 AM
wait, so now youre saying make this have a Prelude bumper. but I thought people were screaming at Ford to "be original" SO how could htis car be original if it lookedl ike a Prelude? then people would be scremaingl ike little girls saying it is a Prelude ripoff. I hope you guys see whereI m coming from here.<br>Damned if ford does, damned if Ford doesnt. It just cant win according to you people.<br>

Krypton
01-12-2005, 02:01 PM
he was just saying that the fusion should have had more of a pulled out bumper not make it a clone of the preludes. The car looks better in videos. It might be a problem in just the pictures

Dodger
01-14-2005, 01:13 PM
Ford has a page up now for the Fusion in there 'New and Future Cars' section. There are a few new pics there.

megadethmartyr
01-14-2005, 04:13 PM
No bad looking at all. Nice interior. Only thing that bugs me is that this, like the 500, is grossly underpowered compared to other in the class (the leaders anyway). The 6-speed tranny should be interesting to see. Hopefully Ford will be smart enough NOT to sell a bunch of these to rental companies (we all know they will) and try and generate a resale value. Chevy needs to be worried. Dodge and Ford are catching up with the imports and chevy isn't in anyones league.

SV
01-14-2005, 08:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No bad looking at all. Nice interior. Only thing that bugs me is that this, like the 500, is grossly underpowered compared to other in the class (the leaders anyway). The 6-speed tranny should be interesting to see. Hopefully Ford will be smart enough NOT to sell a bunch of these to rental companies (we all know they will) and try and generate a resale value. Chevy needs to be worried. Dodge and Ford are catching up with the imports and chevy isn't in anyones league.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>actually the malibu has been getting good reviews; it was consumer reports' highest-rated domestic sedan, and was also rated as highly as the nissan altima and the mazda 6. of course, i'm sure the fusion will do at least as well.

kevinb120
01-14-2005, 09:02 PM
I think the Fusion will be fine with the duratec 30 with VVT. The 500 is only stuck with the current D30 for one year. It is actually not that bad and acellerates faster then most drivers of that type of car will ever ask of it. The D35 finally comes next year, with a cvt, 250-260 hp=320'ish equivilent performance. The 500 was never intended to go against the 300 line. They top out with all options and awd at $30k, its not even in the same price class. It does have a fantastic chassis though, the bump next year will do wonders for the car. The as of now completely ignored panther replacement will most likely go against the 300. The less anyone can find out about it, the more likely it will be a hot car. The most logical replacement should be a stretched s-197 based car with access to every planned Mustang powerplant.

Snake Vargas
01-15-2005, 08:39 AM
I like the appearance in general, except for the lower front bumper chrome bits, and the weird white outline on the rear lights - all the worse on a black car.<p>I expect that although the doors look very similar to the Mondeo's, I highly doubt they are <i>the same</i>.<p>A 210hp V6 and 6-speed auto is fine, it's likely to be more power than anyone needs in a car like that. People in Australia have only the 2.3 Mazda 6; and you don't often hear complaints about it being underpowered. A 3.0 V6 would be nice; but I expect a 3.5 in a car of this size would be a bit overkill. Nevertheless, with AWD it could become a bit of a performance car sleeper..<p>All in all, although I usually dislike Fords, this could be the Ford I actually like. Too bad that, with new European cooperation, American companies have even less motivation to make RHD versions - can sell well enough in Europe as opposed to only UK - and thus we likely won't see an Australian version.

KaRaceR
01-16-2005, 10:53 AM
i like that style but the europe verion will not look like that

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 01:53 PM
<IMG SRC="http://1.im.cz/n/photo/00/56/86orcql-original.jpg" BORDER="0"> (source: novinky.cz)<br>I loved the 427 concept and I love the Fusion. The name is a little hokey but the design is very clean, and I never get tired of the front end. Smoke the rear lenses and bump up the power and you've got a real winner.<p>

Hornbag
01-19-2005, 09:07 PM
Thank god, more pictures!!!! MMMM, i want one! The front is so kool, it looks just like the 427 concept!!!

Top Secret
01-20-2005, 04:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank god, more pictures!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's a picture of the 427 concept... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

_PiCASSO_
01-21-2005, 09:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That's a picture of the 427 concept... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think he was sacrastic...

SV
01-22-2005, 10:02 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>_PiCASSO_</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I think he was sacrastic...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>let's hope so... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>but really, are there any more pictures out there?

Hornbag
01-24-2005, 12:19 AM
LOL, i meant on the ford website...they are very nice pictures....i do kno what the 427 looks like LOL!

Hornbag
01-24-2005, 12:39 AM
Here are a few pictures.<p><IMG SRC="http://img188.exs.cx/img188/9770/photogallerylarge13kl.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img186.exs.cx/img186/5192/photogallerylarge22xl.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.fordvehicles.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fordvehicles.com</A><p>I will post some of the orange car soon, the orange really looks good...<br>

Top Secret
01-24-2005, 01:51 AM
I still can't digest that rear - it still looks incredibly cheap and crappy. Those Altezza's really need to go - whatever happened to normal rear lights!!

-Peter-
01-24-2005, 08:30 AM
That rear is something that I would like to see in bland Mondeo <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-24-2005, 08:51 AM
I must say, the car looks nice, inside and out. <p>I know someone said the hp isn't adequate, I agree, but I am more concerned with the price you have to pay to get this car, from a overall value standpoint. I always think horsepower is over rated, but when you have to pay in the mid 20k for a 200hp Fusion, that is just a bit too much. About the same amount of money you can buy an altima with 250 horses, a regular accord with 240 hp, the new 06 Sonata with 237 horses (probably the most inexpensive and the best value - with the number of standard features), a Galant with 230 hp, a WRX (not the STi) with 225hp, a Camry with 225hp, the list goes on...<p>Same goes for the 500, too much price for what it offers. Even with the new engine offer starting next year, still won't be impressed and defn. nowhere near class leading.<p>But, i like where Ford's going...

Ascariss
01-24-2005, 10:08 AM
I'd buy it.

knicks125
01-24-2005, 10:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd buy it.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good choice...but i'm going to get the new Sonata sometimes this year. It would fit perfectly with my Solara <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>S O N A T A<br>S O L A R A

Dodger
01-24-2005, 10:58 AM
Ah, yes, very good methodology!! And good cars too! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Chicho
01-25-2005, 02:31 AM
it looks like a facelifted Mondeo <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pirate2.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
01-26-2005, 06:38 AM
The Fusion will do well because it's very attractive. It's too bad that Ford didn't put more 427 DNA into the Five Hundred. The Five Hundred / Freestyle would have been great looking 5-7 years ago but they are derivative now.

62Lincoln
01-26-2005, 07:22 AM
The Five Hundred gets a 427/Fusion front end in 2 years.

knicks125
01-26-2005, 07:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>62Lincoln</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Five Hundred gets a 427/Fusion front end in 2 years.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A bit too late...

Naga Royal Guard
01-26-2005, 07:28 AM
everything ford has done is a bit late

knicks125
01-26-2005, 07:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everything ford has done is a bit late</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Also Chevy <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

62Lincoln
01-26-2005, 01:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everything ford has done is a bit late</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Including the Mustang and F150?

Dan J.
01-26-2005, 02:06 PM
I beg to differ with you Naga. What about Saturn, Buick they need new product badly. NOW oh and Mitsubishi they need to send the Galant back from where it came.

ToronadoGT
01-26-2005, 05:59 PM
Wow. This, along with the Mustang GT and F-150, is a great looking vehicle. I think Ford finally may have hit a home run. Personally, I'm surprised it turned out looking that good. The interior is by far Ford's best. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
01-26-2005, 07:01 PM
I really prefer the looks of this to the Mazda6. Now I just hope that the reason SVT went away was to work on not just the new Cobra, but to work on stuffing the Cobra engine into the Fusion.

DoMiNo
01-26-2005, 07:02 PM
Just read an article on Edmunds.com that says the Fusion may be in for the SVT treatment! That is, if SVT survives.<p>How awesome would THAT be?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

Roadster44
01-26-2005, 07:12 PM
I think 500 and Fusion will get SVT treatment. And yes I do think 500 is going to undergo a surgery that will give it a much sharper look at the front, and more power.

DoMiNo
01-27-2005, 02:33 AM
500 SVT... that's a stretch. For my imagination anyway...

Andrey
01-29-2005, 09:59 AM
is this car bigger than five hundred because it seems to me that they are the same size and almost the same powerwise........Explain plz

SV
01-29-2005, 10:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andrey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this car bigger than five hundred because it seems to me that they are the same size and almost the same powerwise........Explain plz</TD></TR></TABLE><p>the fusion is closer in size to an accord or camry (188 inches in length i believe and similar width and height to the toyota and honda), and the five hundred is bigger; about 200 inches long, closer in size to the new toyota avalon and nissan maxima

Andrey
01-29-2005, 10:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV3</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the fusion is closer in size to an accord or camry (188 inches in length i believe and similar width and height to the toyota and honda), and the five hundred is bigger; about 200 inches long, closer in size to the new toyota avalon and nissan maxima</TD></TR></TABLE> THANX!<br>this Ford looks bigger than Sonata, Camry..may be it's just me

knicks125
01-29-2005, 10:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andrey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> THANX!<br>this Ford looks bigger than Sonata, Camry..may be it's just me</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Fusion is about one and half inches longer than the new Sonata but it weighs a little more. Sonata's got a bigger engine and more hp and torque but priced less than the Fusion with more std. features offered

Andrey
01-29-2005, 10:26 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Fusion is about one and half inches longer than the new Sonata but it weighs a little more. Sonata's got a bigger engine and more hp and torque but priced less than the Fusion with more std. features offered</TD></TR></TABLE> I am with Sonata! I am half Korean!

knicks125
01-29-2005, 10:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andrey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am with Sonata! I am half Korean!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Kool! I just posted my thoughts about both cars in the Sonata thread, have a look. I think both cars are great but I have to give the edge to the Sonata because of its value factors and number of std. features offered, especially safety features

Naga Royal Guard
01-29-2005, 11:06 AM
the fusion is too little too late, and they unveiled its design super early which isnt always the best idea<p>

JBlair
01-29-2005, 11:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the fusion is too little too late, and they unveiled its design super early which isnt always the best idea</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would disagree about the design, because people usually write off early sketches like the Fusion's as being 'optimistic', but the Fusion ended up looking almost identical to it. It is really late, but it should sell well considering the positive press exposure this car has gotten.

Andre
01-29-2005, 12:56 PM
There are rumors the 500 and Freestyle will recieve a V8, so a Five Hundred SVT is not impossible to imagine for me<p>As for the size, it's comparable to the Mazda6 in most dimensions, it should have more interior space and trunk space because it's not as contoured as the 6. So comparing the known dimensions and performance of the Mazda6 should give you an idea how this car will operate.

Naga Royal Guard
01-29-2005, 01:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would disagree about the design, because people usually write off early sketches like the Fusion's as being 'optimistic', but the Fusion ended up looking almost identical to it. It is really late, but it should sell well considering the positive press exposure this car has gotten.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>but the Sonata is much better in almost every respect, that was the point of the argument <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>and the 500, Montego and Monterrey sketches really were too "optimistic", even if you disagree <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>by virtue of its Mazda sourced design and their success w/ the Five Hundred ( volvo sourced designs, but a great car still ) the Ford Fusion does indeed promise to be a good car<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Naga Royal Guard at 3:44 PM 1/29/2005</i>

ToronadoGT
01-29-2005, 01:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>...but the Sonata is much better in almost every respect...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>In some ways I actaully agree. (Although I prefer the styling and interior of the Fusion to the Sonata.)<p>Back in the early 90's when the Hyundai Sonata first came out, saying that that car was better than a Ford Taurus was written off as clear insanity. Who would have thought that Hyundai would pass Ford in engine and drivetrain refinement. It's actually amazing how far along Hyundai has come along in the past decade or so with their cars. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-29-2005, 01:58 PM
HHyundai can never have the stigma as bad as <b>F</b>ire <b>O</b>n <b>R</b>oad <b>D</b>aily<p>Hyundai got my attention w/ the XG300, it wasnt superior at anything, but it is a very good car - it proved what hyundai was capable of doing<p>I would be willing to bet the Sonata has better interior quality than the Fusion and better drivetrain response and refinement as you have said. <p>The next Accord, Civic, Corolla and Camry will speak volumes for how serious Honda and Toyota ( some say they are arrogant these days ) will take Hyundai's recent strides<p>

Hornbag
01-29-2005, 08:04 PM
I still think as Hyundai as the cheap car maker who made the Excel (stupid name as all is Excelled at was sales). <p>Ford do have a major identity crisis, but IMO Hyundai will never FULLY move away from that cheap car image.

knicks125
01-29-2005, 09:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I still think as Hyundai as the cheap car maker who made the Excel (stupid name as all is Excelled at was sales). <p>Ford do have a major identity crisis, but IMO Hyundai will never FULLY move away from that cheap car image.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, I guess I would say to you to think again...we are no longer in teh 90s <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
01-29-2005, 10:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well, I guess I would say to you to think again...we are no longer in teh 90s <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Like i said in the Sonata thread, sorry, forget about the stupid Fords and continue to rave on about the Sonata. Thats just how i percieve things...

knicks125
01-29-2005, 10:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Like i said in the Sonata thread, sorry, forget about the stupid Fords and continue to rave on about the Sonata. Thats just how i percieve things...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Now see, why are you doing this to yourself. We all know you like Fords, which is good, everyone has their own tastes and preferences, don't let others make you change who you are, what you do, and what you likes are. Personally I like imports more than domestics (cars from detroit), there, I said it, does that make you happy?<p>Cheer up! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

ohme467
01-30-2005, 09:26 AM
will the fusion get the mazdaspeed6 engine as an svt or a reworked 3.5? and will the 500/montego get the 4.4 yamaha v8 that does fit them?

JBlair
01-30-2005, 09:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ohme467</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will the fusion get the mazdaspeed6 engine as an svt or a reworked 3.5? and will the 500/montego get the 4.4 yamaha v8 that does fit them?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There were a few magazines (automobile and Road and Track, I believe) that think the Fusion will get a high-power version of the Duratec 35, but they didn't say anything about the 500. IIRC, Automobile was predicting between 260-290 hp.

skoochythatone
01-30-2005, 11:24 AM
This car looks okay, too bland maybe if you ask me. The only thing that bothers me about it a lot are the rear lights! They look like some sort of after market Honda or Lexus-wannabe-pimp-my-ride lights..what the heck did the Ford designers smoke when they designed them?

SV
01-30-2005, 05:33 PM
i saw a silver fusion at the auto show. it looks very nice, and had a black-on-tan interior. for an american car (or for any car in its class), its <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
01-31-2005, 04:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV3</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i saw a silver fusion at the auto show. it looks very nice, and had a black-on-tan interior. for an american car (or for any car in its class), its <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Any pictures?

SV
01-31-2005, 04:03 PM
oh yea, i forgot to post them. here they are:<p><IMG SRC="http://img103.exs.cx/img103/5116/fordfusion00rv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img103.exs.cx/img103/3646/fordfusion10rr.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img103.exs.cx/img103/2672/fordfusion25bl.jpg" BORDER="0">

Dodger
01-31-2005, 09:39 PM
Now this isn't too bad, it kind of hides the tail lights...

Hornbag
02-01-2005, 12:52 AM
OMG, thanks so much SV3! They r amazing. That has truly made my day! If only it wasnt so danm expensive to import and get changed, then i would buy one!

Top Secret
02-01-2005, 01:27 AM
Does anyone have pics of the Fusion in white? I reckon it will look susprisngly good in a more lighter shade, as it does seem to hide the Altezza-style of the lights - so white anyone?

nstreet16
02-01-2005, 02:11 AM
hey SV3 i hope you werent on the display stage... cuz it says to please keep off displays! hahaha jk!

sunny7
02-01-2005, 03:00 AM
i am actually very impressed by ford on this one, especially with the level detail on the nose. although the trunk lid screams saab.

knicks125
02-02-2005, 10:23 AM
Ford needs to hit a home run with the Fusion (which I believe it will), because in the past month, its three new models - the 500, Freestyle, and Mecury Montego, combined, sold less cars than the Taurus, which is getting up there in its age. That says a lot about what Ford needs to do to revitalize itself.

JBlair
02-02-2005, 11:02 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ford needs to hit a home run with the Fusion (which I believe it will), because in the past month, its three new models - the 500, Freestyle, and Mecury Montego, combined, sold less cars than the Taurus, which is getting up there in its age. That says a lot about what Ford needs to do to revitalize itself.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>None of those vehicles were meant to replace the Taurus, and Ford has never said that they wanted them to have sales as high as the Taurus. Fusion does replace the Taurus, but Ford will be using both Fusion and 500 to compete against the other midsize rivals.

knicks125
02-02-2005, 11:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>None of those vehicles were meant to replace the Taurus, and Ford has never said that they wanted them to have sales as high as the Taurus. Fusion does replace the Taurus, but Ford will be using both Fusion and 500 to compete against the other midsize rivals.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No need to get defensive...i just meant that if three new cars combined, can't attract to general public than just one aging car, Ford must be doing something keeping those potential customers away. Taurus is a very nice car, but by no means it's still selling a ton, I find it hard to believe these three news cars (better in many ways than the Taurus) combined can not outsell the Taurus, in a way, it is kind of sad, but most defn. that does not sit well with Ford.

JBlair
02-02-2005, 11:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No need to get defensive...i just meant that if three new cars combined, can't attract to general public than just one aging car, Ford must be doing something keeping those potential customers away. Taurus is a very nice car, but by no means it's still selling a ton, I find it hard to believe these three news cars (better in many ways than the Taurus) combined can not outsell the Taurus, in a way, it is kind of sad, but most defn. that does not sit well with Ford.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>The Taurus and 500 aren't meant for the same people. Sales have actually started to pick up for all of the new large cars. Ford only predicted between 200,000 sales for all Three vehicles, so the sales shouldn't be as high as the Taurus'. And besides, sales are picking up enough that there should be higher demand than supply in just a short period. As I said earlier, the Taurus will be replaced by both the 500 and the Fusion, which together should result in close to the same number of sales as the Taurus, if not more. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JBlair at 10:28 PM 2/3/2005</i>

boston
02-05-2005, 08:52 AM
Many 500/Freestyle elements in this. Is it being built in Chicago or elsewhere?

spwolf
02-05-2005, 08:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>No need to get defensive...i just meant that if three new cars combined, can't attract to general public than just one aging car, Ford must be doing something keeping those potential customers away. Taurus is a very nice car, but by no means it's still selling a ton, I find it hard to believe these three news cars (better in many ways than the Taurus) combined can not outsell the Taurus, in a way, it is kind of sad, but most defn. that does not sit well with Ford.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>lol. It is not about how many sales are possible, but how much profit is possible. Ford probably decided it is better to build 2 different cars and hence make more profits per car than sell one car at large discounts... It is called "strategy".<p>Big manufacturers understand that volume is not all, which is why Ford will not compete at sales levels anymore at any price... GM would like to do that as well but they have even more capacity than Ford.<p>If they could someone get rid of overcapacity with an wave of magic hand, both companies would preffer selling lower numbers of cars at higher profits..

ohme467
02-27-2005, 12:35 AM
someone should start a a topic naming most car PLATFORMs and what rides on them, and how dated or new they are.

PBH
02-27-2005, 04:18 AM
hmmm they should so bring this to Europe as the facelift for the ford mondeo, this sector is declining in europe and with something as fresh and different as this, ppl would love it

summersun54
03-01-2005, 06:53 AM
it looks too much like the mondeo as it is..anyway ford of europe have a new plafrom for future midsize fords and the next generation large volvos..and mazda 6 prob very similar in fairness ot the 500's chassis<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by summersun54 at 5:24 AM 3/3/2005</i>

Pavilion
04-05-2005, 04:53 PM
Has ther been any more word on the sale date? I am itching to take this car for a spin. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
04-06-2005, 12:35 AM
Take sum photoes when u eventually do Pavilion!!!

AM2
04-06-2005, 01:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PBH</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm they should so bring this to Europe as the facelift for the ford mondeo, this sector is declining in europe and with something as fresh and different as this, ppl would love it</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, it is bigger than a Mondeo... similar in size to the Omega. New Scorpio(Granada) perhaps?<p>But I guess people in europe would prefer the RWD Australian Falcon... too bad the base engine is a big 4-liter 6-cylinder engine.

dukedb9
04-06-2005, 05:51 AM
Any price announced? <p>I have to say, I think the Fusion looks pretty good. And since it's based on the 6 (yet wisely doesn't look like the 6) the Fusion should drive well.<p>Kudos to Ford.

Ascariss
04-06-2005, 09:03 AM
Saw it at the show here, it was closed and on a platform, but it looks great, rear lights don't look so large in person.

summersun54
04-29-2005, 03:13 AM
How much bigger in length outside, inside and wheelbase is this car than the mazda 6 upon which it is based? does anyone know?

carlisimo
04-29-2005, 05:01 AM
The first of those pictures, the one taken almost from the front, reminds me of the current Accord. Of the Accord's worst design features, unfortunately. Maybe it's just the color; black is definitely better on this car. Hopefully other people agree and we see less silver (I'm sick of that color).<p>Overall I love it.<p>But...<br>I thought that since Ford was going to make a big car (500) and a smaller car (Fusion), they'd use the Fusion in Europe to replace the Mondeo. They should be about the same size, right? After all the Mazda6 is midsized in Europe. I thought they'd save money by using the same car here and there, and the size would let them do it.

CalinG7
04-29-2005, 09:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>summersun54</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much bigger in length outside, inside and wheelbase is this car than the mazda 6 upon which it is based? does anyone know?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>All I know on measurements is that the wheelbase was stretched about 2 inches to 107", and the overall length was stretched to the norm for American midsize sedans, which is 190". <p>The difference between Euro and American midsizers used to be greater, but the Euros have been growing considerably in the last few years. Maybe the next gen midsizers will be the same on both sides of the Atlantic.

nismo
04-29-2005, 06:21 PM
This is more Camry/Accord sized while the Mazda6 is slighty smaller. They won't drive exactly the same.. the increase in size and completely different suspension settings will give both cars different characters. The Mazda6 is for a more sport oriented audience while the Fusion will be an American bread and butter sedan in the fashion of the Camry. Ford definately made major improvements with this over the Taurus.<p>After seeing it in person at an Autoshow I find it nice but I think the Mercury version would get my money. I'm definately going to check the Milan out when it goes on sale. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Is there any news on the Fusion/Milan? ...new pics?

Hornbag
04-30-2005, 03:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the Fusion will be an American bread and butter sedan in the fashion of the Camry. <p>After seeing it in person at an Autoshow I find it nice but I think the Mercury version would get my money. I'm definately going to check the Milan out when it goes on sale<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Ford better be more than a bread and butter Camry with a Ford badge. It is <I>supposed</I> to be relativly sporty, not the the extent of the Mazda 6, but much more than a Camry. And i believe the Camry would be bigger than the Fusion...just a though<p>But i agree with you on the Milan, mabey not so the back, it has grown on me, but it is still too Seat, but the front is amazing! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> Full thumbs up for the Milan

AM2
04-30-2005, 10:37 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>summersun54</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much bigger in length outside, inside and wheelbase is this car than the mazda 6 upon which it is based? does anyone know?</TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/cars/1211/1293/norm_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><B>Mazda 6 sedan</B><br>Wheelbase 2675 mm <br>Length 4670 mm (4745 mm, US version with extended bumper)<br>Width 1780 mm <br>Height 1435 mm <br>Track (front) 1550 mm <br>Track (rear) 1550 mm <br>Tyres 205/55R16 or 215/50R17<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/cars/4072/4680/norm_10_Ford_Fusion_2005_USA.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><B>Ford Fusion sedan</B><br>Wheelbase 2728 mm <br>Length 4831 mm <br>Width 1834 mm <br>Height 1417 mm <br>Track (front) 1565 mm <br>Track (rear) 1557 mm <br>Tyres 205/60R16 or 225/50R17<br>

Hornbag
05-01-2005, 03:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>Length 4831 mm <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Holy HELL! I didnt think it was that long! I thought this was the 500's <B>little</B> brother? Thats like similar to Falcon size!

AM2
05-01-2005, 06:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Holy HELL! I didnt think it was that long! I thought this was the 500's <B>little</B> brother? Thats like similar to Falcon size!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats because the Fivehundred is only 42mm shorter than the LTD/Fairlane.<br>The Ford Five Hundred is 5098 mm long

Hornbag
05-02-2005, 03:18 AM
HOLY HELL! The the 500 must be roomy! How big is the 300 or Avalon then...<br>

SV
05-02-2005, 05:40 AM
the 300 and avalon are about the same size, i think they're both about 2 inches shorter (in length) though

AM2
05-02-2005, 06:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HOLY HELL! The the 500 must be roomy! How big is the 300 or Avalon then...<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>300 and Avalon are roughly the same size as the Fivehundred. The Chrysler 300 has short overhangs making it around 3 inches shorter than a Ford Fivehundred, but the 300's interior is roomy. <p>Haven't sat in the Avalon yet, but the 300's interior felt bigger than the Opel Omega( similar in size to the Commodore) and much bigger than the USDM/ASEAN Accord.<br>

Hornbag
05-04-2005, 03:19 AM
Thanks for all this info guys! Im learning something here!

summersun54
05-05-2005, 08:55 AM
Thanks guys for getting the size figures. It makes for interesting reading what car companies can do with modern architectures..<br>Now if only they would differentiate their cars the same way VW group now does..look at A3/golf/skoda octavia/new seat lyon<br>

nstreet16
05-05-2005, 03:31 PM
how much is this projected to cost at?

FordRules
05-06-2005, 03:00 PM
ide say 25k canadian

nismo
05-06-2005, 04:31 PM
the top of the line Focus goes for around $17.5USD so I would guess that would be the base price for the Fusion in the US.<p>I hope Ford releases more info on the car soon... the attention it was getting from the autoshow is dying down fast.

Dan J.
05-06-2005, 08:38 PM
You can build and price one now at the ford website. Plus they have a section of options they may offer in the future. Depending on customer interest. The one I priced out was completely loaded came to $27,000.00.

nismo
05-07-2005, 06:24 PM
Thanks...<p>I just priced out a decent commuter Fusion S with 5spd Auto and ABS for $19,265, not bad... and they had that nice Charcoal color.<p>They ask whether you would be interested in a Manual V6 model, I checked it just for the ones who would <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> ..

bolita
05-16-2005, 12:36 PM
I also checked the V6 manual option!<p>It should definitvely be offered with a manual V6 IMO

Dodger
05-16-2005, 01:25 PM
2006 Fusion SEL <br> 3.0L 4V V6 Duratec - 6-Speed Auto <br> <br> Total Price: $24,955.00 <br> <br> Prices are for survey purposes only and are not official pricing. Prices may vary from visit to visit and will change before the Fusion is launched this fall. <br> <br> <br> <br> Model: SEL <br> Engine: 3.0L 4V V6 Duratec <br> Transmission: 6-Speed Auto <br> <br> <br> Exterior Color & Interior Trim <br> <br> Redfire (exterior)<br> <br> Camel (interior)<br> <br> Wheels <br> <br> - 17" Machined Aluminum Wheels <br> <br> Tires <br> <br> - P225/60VR17 All-Season <br> <br> Seats <br> <br> - Leather Front Bucket Seats <br> <br> Radio <br> <br> - Premium AM/FM In-dash CDX6/MP3 and 6 Speakers <br> <br> Special Packages <br> <br> - Safety and Security Package <br> - SEL Premium Package <br> <br> Options/Upgrades <br> <br> - Anti-Lock Braking System <br> - Traction Assist <br> - Anti-theft Perimeter Alarm <br> - Fog Lamps <br> <br> Future Options (not included in Total Price) <br> <br> - Electronic Stability Control ($510)<p><br>This is a very decent price for what you get. Even though the prices are not final, I doubt they will change that much from the posted.<br> <br> <br>

knicks125
06-23-2005, 06:00 PM
<A HREF="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050623/deth014.html?.v=15" TARGET="_blank">http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/05....v=15</A> - pricing P/R<p>Good job by Ford, this should be a good seller. <p>However, since they put it bold letter "class leading" and then put it a chart, and being i am biased, how is it class leading and undercut rivals when another car in that chart offers so many safety features and equipment standard, even on the base model. Then again, if consumers buy it, then i guess good marketing on Ford's side <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 9:10 PM 6/23/2005</i>

SV
06-23-2005, 06:20 PM
hopefully this car'll get good reviews, which it should given it's mazda 6 underpinnings. the only thing holding the fusion back is space, apparently most interior dimensions are about an inch less than the accord/camry/altima/malibu/etc. that grille, though, will at least ensure some more interest in it than the five hundred, a car which IMO is way better than the attention it gets (it's boring, yes, but it's also a great all-around car)

syclone
06-23-2005, 07:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only thing holding the fusion back is space, apparently most interior dimensions are about an inch less than the accord/camry/altima/malibu/etc.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think Ford is planning on getting people thinking of buying those cars who care about space into the 500 and making the Fusion more of either the driver's midsize or a really big compact. I'm not sure how it will work out, but personally, I think the current Accord, Camry, and Altima are actually too big for my tastes. I like something a little bit smaller and flingable like the previous gen Altima. Then again, that never sold too well, because it ended up competing with cars it was way smaller than, which doesn't bode too well for the Fusion. Then again, maybe there are a lot of people who share my believe that the current crop of family cars are bigger than they really need to be.

knicks125
06-25-2005, 06:16 AM
This is by far the funniest thing I have read in this P/R:<p><B>"Major standard equipment includes:<p>* Signature 3-bar chrome grille with integrated "Ford" oval"</B><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Not enough standard equipment to include???<p>On a more serious note, I am surprised that the Fusion doesn't come standard with ABS...that is a feature where most (comparable) midsize sedans offer as standard equipment <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

nismo
06-25-2005, 10:10 AM
The pricing is pretty good. Should get it some attention. I don't know how GM prices the Malibu anywhere near competition with its lackluster engines....

SV
06-25-2005, 11:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The pricing is pretty good. Should get it some attention. I don't know how GM prices the Malibu anywhere near competition with its lackluster engines....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>the malibu is actually a good car, i dunno about sales figures, but it is priced below the japenese competition apparently...anyway, i'm really impressed by this car, with the exception of the freestar ford's been consistently coming out with well-rounded, nicely executed cars.

Hornbag
06-26-2005, 11:15 PM
Styling still looks good, but no standard ABS...i cant wait for the reviews!!!

FerrariKid
06-29-2005, 01:10 PM
Hopefully, by the looks of it, this will finally be a truly good car for Ford. I can't wait till it comes out...I'll tell my dad to go test drive it just to see what it seems like!

bolita
06-29-2005, 01:24 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Styling still looks good, but no standard ABS...i cant wait for the reviews!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>ABS only standard with V6 SEL trim... rest is optional.<p>

nismo
06-29-2005, 06:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the malibu is actually a good car, i dunno about sales figures, but it is priced below the japenese competition apparently...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm just saying for a car that offers probably the least in its class its a little too pricey... Remember the Malibu offers a 140hp ecotec and a 200hp pushrod V6, it is out spec'd by all its competition except the Suzuki Verona and Kia Optima(which will get redesigned this fall) which are both priced below the Malibu already. Its a great car but the fact remains that theres better cars you can get for the same price if not cheaper. Hopefully GM will lower the prices like they said, not including rebates and employee discounts.<p>Back to the topic though, has anyone heard the release date for the Fusion?

Hornbag
06-29-2005, 10:45 PM
Well the first day of Fall i heard...well thats what im under the impression of, at least thats what has been said...it could be delayed, i mean not a lot has been said about it since it was shown?

Hornbag
06-29-2005, 10:53 PM
Just found something...<p><A HREF="http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_display.cfm?release=21051" TARGET="_blank">http://media.ford.com/newsroom...21051</A><p>The Ford Fusion will be shown at a public event for the Rord Racing Innovation drive July 16 and so on... i presume this could be a start for marketing the car, so it couldnt be that far off

Dodger
07-03-2005, 12:18 PM
Just a quick note- Ford has updated the Fusion website with a few new pics. Also, the Fusion website now says the V6 models make 221 hp. I know earlier specs put it at 210 hp. I hadn't heard anything about this until I read it in an article on the Detnews website which can be found here: <A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0507/03/A01-235800.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/au...0.htm</A><p>I know it is only an extra 11 hp but it should make it a better player in the segment. Good luck Malibu!

Hornbag
07-03-2005, 10:30 PM
Thanks for that Dodger man! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Not much difference, but still...<p>Here is the link...nice pictures of the car as well...and um lots of other pple...lol<p><A HREF="http://www.fordvehicles.com/futurevehicles/2006fusion" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fordvehicles.com/fu...usion</A>/

RGAddison
07-04-2005, 09:04 AM
I am so proud of ford!,they made a good looking car,it looks hot in that grey color,hopefully they get the bugs out before introduction.

knicks125
07-10-2005, 02:23 PM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Industry/Industry_News/Net_Gives_Ford_Fusion_Pricing_Clues.S175.A8893.htm l" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><p>Look at the 1st paragaph, that was the first thing i noticed when i saw the press release<p>This is a good car, good styling, although it falls short, the combination of pricing/features (lack thereof) when compared to its competitors

SV
07-10-2005, 02:40 PM
i wouldn't say the fact that it doesn't have ABS and a few other features throws it out of contention or causes it to "fall short"; i have a feeling ford will add those features later on, if enough people complain. until then, you'll just have to pay extra.

knicks125
07-10-2005, 02:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldn't say the fact that it doesn't have ABS and a few other features throws it out of contention or causes it to "fall short"; i have a feeling ford will add those features later on, if enough people complain. until then, you'll just have to pay extra.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>In saying falling short, I didn't not mean it fell short of contention compared to the other midsizes; falling short was meant to be a pure pricing/features combination comparison...I guess I should've used something else <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
07-11-2005, 04:45 AM
Ford will realise that the car needs some extra added features, thats why they have the make a Fusion thing...<br>

caarmike
07-17-2005, 07:11 PM
There's some photos from the Ford Innovation drive here:<br><A HREF="http://www.elucas.com/personal/jcl/photos/fusionpics" TARGET="_blank">http://www.elucas.com/personal...npics</A>/<br>Some one named J. Lucas took them.<p>They are the first photos showing all the trim levels.<br>The SE is the silver one without the chrome beltline and the non-split 5-spoke wheels.<br>The S is the blue one with the wheel covers. They all look good.<br>There wasn't much of a driving impression with these photos. Apparently Ford was giving people only 1.5 minutes behind the wheel.

Hornbag
07-18-2005, 03:52 AM
Fantastic, thanks caarmike!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> And sooooo many, rock on man!!!<p>The silver one shows off the Mazda ties IMO...<br>This car looks absolutly amazing, but the maroon one looks the best. Makes the front realy stand out. Another thing that stands out is the GREY interior, might be pictures but it looks very cheap... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Hornbag at 10:03 PM 7/18/2005</i>

Santeno
07-18-2005, 06:22 AM
Is anyone else reminded of the last generation VW Golf when viewing this car from the side. Very similar but longer lines.

DoMiNo
07-18-2005, 08:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is anyone else reminded of the last generation VW Golf when viewing this car from the side. Very similar but longer lines.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I see Jetta. <p>I was on the Fusion site the other day, and at the end stage of the car configurator they have a "possible options" list, of stuff that--per consumer demand--could make it to the Fusion, including AWD, 6-speed with the V6, and all sorts of other stuff. So everyone go put in their two cents.

bolita
07-18-2005, 08:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fantastic, thanks caarmike!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> And sooooo many, rock on man!!!<p>The silver one shows off the Mazda ties IMO...<br>This car looks absolutly amazing, but the maroon one looks the best. Makes the front realy stand out. Another thing that stands out is the GREY interior, might be pictures but it looks very cheap... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by Hornbag at 10:03 PM 7/18/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><br>My thoughts exactly. I hope its just the pix, bu that interior does look cheap!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
07-18-2005, 08:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see Jetta.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I'm sorry that's what I meant to say.

SV
07-18-2005, 12:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>This car looks absolutly amazing, but the maroon one looks the best. Makes the front realy stand out. Another thing that stands out is the GREY interior, might be pictures but it looks very cheap... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>i think that's because it's, you know...grey <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> IMO grey interiors never look very good (black-on-grey is much better though). the plastics on the dashboard seem to have the same graining and everything as the five hundred, which is a good thing. i might check out this car soon to see what the inside is like though, there's no way to know for sure from pictures.

jlucas3
07-18-2005, 03:43 PM
Hey! I'm the guy that took the pictures so i can try to answer any questions.<p>It did have the plastic on the dash that was in the 500 category.

SV
07-18-2005, 06:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jlucas3</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey! I'm the guy that took the pictures so i can try to answer any questions.<p>It did have the plastic on the dash that was in the 500 category.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>that's good, so it's soft to the touch then. it looks like alot of the bottom half is too, since it looks exactly the same as the top's texture and everything. it looks like the fusion will be a nice, quality-built car. let's just hope it'll be reliable, but since it's on a mazda platform that (hopefully) won't be a problem. anyway, nice pictures!

ohme467
07-18-2005, 06:43 PM
when exactly can we expect to see them show up on lots?

knicks125
07-18-2005, 06:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ohme467</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when exactly can we expect to see them show up on lots?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sept.

Hornbag
07-19-2005, 03:16 AM
Another thing that looks absolutly cheap is the controls surround, the black grey peice of crap...sorry CHEAP PLASTIC...

Monkey
07-19-2005, 05:46 AM
I just realized yesterday why those headlights looked familiar...they are from the 90's era Prelude

SV
07-19-2005, 08:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another thing that looks absolutly cheap is the controls surround, the black grey peice of crap...sorry CHEAP PLASTIC...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>you mean the buttons themselves or the black glossy trim? the buttons are ford USA's new "corporate buttons", they're not bad quality actually IMO...

jlucas3
07-19-2005, 09:00 AM
It definately was a real glossy plastic for that center piece. The picture kind of exaggerates it but it didn't look too bad.

Hornbag
07-20-2005, 04:08 AM
I ment the glossy plasic...very un-easy to the eye, and it looks so bland...and simple?

SV
07-20-2005, 09:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ment the glossy plasic...very un-easy to the eye, and it looks so bland...and simple?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i dunno, the mondeo has that too, or at least the pre-facelift model did...i kinda like it, but then again, that's why they have different trim options, to suit different tastes

DoMiNo
07-20-2005, 09:59 AM
Perfect spot for some Carbon Fiber trim in an SVT model though, eh?

knicks125
08-05-2005, 10:15 AM
Spotted a Fusion roaming around today during lunch, actually twice. I assumed it was either a pre-production or a dealer car. One thing, the car looked a lot smaller in person.

MineralMan
08-05-2005, 11:41 AM
This car should come standard with the foglights. The black plastic plugs in the front bumper look really odd.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.elucas.com/personal/jcl/photos/fusionpics/images/101_1877.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Also, about the black shiny piece in the center stack, this was taken from the Ford Website:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ford Vehicles.com</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fusion's attention to detail also extends to the instrument panel - which features carbon-fiber accents on the SE models and wood applique or piano black finish on SEL models<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That must be the Piano Black that was featured in the photos. The photos on the Ford website do show the wood applique, it looks like it was pulled from the side of an 83 Colony Park wagon. I couldn't find a photo of the carbon fiber look from the SE model.

FordRules
08-06-2005, 08:46 AM
black fusions look the best because you cant see the air vent below the 3 bar grille

against the wall
08-06-2005, 10:29 AM
looks like the fusion needs a 4th chrome bar in the grille. it looks funky wiht 3 chrome strips and empty black space at the bottom.

SV
08-06-2005, 10:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like the fusion needs a 4th chrome bar in the grille. it looks funky wiht 3 chrome strips and empty black space at the bottom.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>that might be because the chrome bars take up too much space and blocks the airflow, so they just added a space at the bottom. it still looks good IMO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Krypton
08-06-2005, 11:14 AM
I like the back but something about the front bothers me, i think it might be becuase the top half is bigger than the bottom but i dont know

justfrancis
08-07-2005, 06:41 PM
Hey guys... I just saw a new Fusion in person on display in montreal... all I can say is this is an insane looking car... even though it is based on the mazda 6 this car looks 100 times better

justfrancis
08-07-2005, 06:42 PM
oh and for those who are wondering it was in magnesium... so I'm sure thats one color that will be offered

against the wall
08-07-2005, 06:54 PM
where in montreal was it?

Hornbag
08-08-2005, 03:01 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Fusion...<p>Cars look HOTT is silver

justfrancis
08-09-2005, 04:55 PM
The car was being shown at Place Des Arts in montreal in the Metro Level on display for the Fracofolies (french music) It seemed like it was a production version since it was being given away as a contest prize.

knicks125
09-01-2005, 09:12 PM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=106996" TARGET="_blank"><B>First Drive: 2006 Ford Fusion</B></A><p>Including pics, clips, and article

Hornbag
09-02-2005, 03:03 AM
Well...after all that exitment, i guess it comes down to one thing. Its a Ford. I had such high expectations. Although the review is good, its that sad engine and transmission that leave me thinking did Ford do their homework? In a world where Toyota is selling off the fact its cars are smooth, here comes Ford with a gutless (mabey thats not the best word) and gear-hunting transmission.<p>Still, its a start. At least it looks good, and so far from the test it had good quality!!!

Nodnarb
09-02-2005, 04:30 AM
Eh, I wouldn't be too worried. I hate how every American car launch comes with the wait a couple years, then it will get good. Since this is an all new transmission, I am sure there are things still being sorted out. And the engine is in there until the Duratec 35 gets here next year, so that will help acceleration. It is too bad they needed this car now, so it got stuck with the crappy powertrain, rather than wait and give it a good, propper launch.

knicks125
09-02-2005, 05:52 AM
Ford needs this product to do well, badly. Despite the so-so engine, as pointed out, it just needs a successful product to regain its momentum.

62Lincoln
09-02-2005, 06:55 AM
The new issue of Car & Driver has a test impression, and gives a very favorable review. The writer at Edmunds sounds more like a refugee from Consumer Reports than someone who actually has a good working knowledge of cars.

autoverhoeven
09-02-2005, 07:14 AM
I am confused,<br>I thought they never used the same name for a different car, specially<br>when it is the same brand. We in Europe have a small (ugly) car called<br>Ford Fusion:<br><A HREF="http://www.ford.nl/ie/fusion/fus_experience/fus_gallery/#" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ford.nl/ie/fusion/f...ery/#</A><p>

StevenZoz
09-02-2005, 08:59 AM
yea... i noticed that a while ago.. it very weird that they would do something like that.

Santeno
09-02-2005, 09:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>autoverhoeven</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am confused,<br>I thought they never used the same name for a different car, specially<br>when it is the same brand. We in Europe have a small (ugly) car called<br>Ford Fusion:<br><A HREF="http://www.ford.nl/ie/fusion/fus_experience/fus_gallery/#" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ford.nl/ie/fusion/f...ery/#</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Don't forget the Ford Escort - same name, 2 very different and unrelated vehicles. I think GM does the same thing with at least one chevrolet model they sell in the US, compared the the very different model of the same name they sell in the middle east.

nismo
09-02-2005, 06:53 PM
are these on sale yet? I want to sit inside it... I saw the exterior when I was at an autoshow and it was alright. The Milan actually looked better IMO and my friends felt the same way.<p>I think Ford did a better job with its mid-size model compared to Chevy's Malibu or even Pontiacs G6...

Hornbag
09-03-2005, 04:03 AM
Well, i think cos they bave to follow the F name idea, and they couldnt call it Futura, Fusion was the nest best thing...<p>See, that saves Ford from spending so much money trying to find a new name (i mean, they spent so much money when they named the 'Town-Car' they didnt have any left!) lol<p>I hope it does well. They have the looks right, its a great looking car. And a new engine sounds great!!!

galv
09-04-2005, 06:22 PM
it just doesnt seem right that their using the mazda 6 platform, i hate it wen these things happen.<p>can some one please list out all the differences between the fusion chassis/architecture and the 6's<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by futuredriver at 7:42 PM 9/4/2005</i>

nismo
09-04-2005, 07:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>futuredriver</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it just doesnt seem rigt that their using the mazda 6 platform, i hate it wen these things happen.<p>can some one please list out all the differences between the fusion chassis/architecture and the 6's</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For the Fusion they stretched it I believe.... and suspension is completely different. This is no reskin if thats what your thinking.

Hornbag
09-06-2005, 03:32 AM
Personally, i dont see anything wrong in using a great chassis! The Mazda 6 rocks, and always will. And since Ford and Mazda are in the same bed, i dont see why Ford cant use their amazing chassis...

SV
09-06-2005, 04:11 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>futuredriver</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it just doesnt seem right that their using the mazda 6 platform, i hate it wen these things happen.<p>can some one please list out all the differences between the fusion chassis/architecture and the 6's</TD></TR></TABLE><p>what's so wrong with the mazda6 platform? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
09-06-2005, 06:09 AM
well Ford is doing it right - unlike GM, which would have Mazda6 with different tail lights and new badge up front...

bucket
09-06-2005, 08:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well Ford is doing it right - unlike GM, which would have Mazda6 with different tail lights and new badge up front...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>not to mention the same interior...<p>i think the fusion/milan/zephyr/6 are great vehicles for FoMoCo. <p>the fusion and milan compete with the G6 and malibu, and also gives those who want to buy american a much cheaper alternative to the camry, accord, altima, and sonata.<p>the 6 competes with the accord/camry/altima by giving those who refuse to buy american cars an alternative. <p>even the zephyr competes with the ES330. it may not be as refined or well-made, but it probably won't be as expensive either.

galv
09-06-2005, 01:09 PM
i read in the newspaper (Tornto Star) that ford wants owners of camrys, accords, altimas, and MAZDA 6 s to ditch their cars for Ford Fusions.

Nodnarb
09-06-2005, 01:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well Ford is doing it right - unlike GM, which would have Mazda6 with different tail lights and new badge up front...</TD></TR></TABLE><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bucket</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to mention the same interior...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just like what they did with the Solsitce/Sky and the Malibu/G6 and the rest of their lineup minus the Torrent/Equinox and the CSV's. <IMG SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">

FordRules
09-06-2005, 08:42 PM
CSV's well thats a different story!

Rugbyplaya91
09-07-2005, 08:13 PM
it's nice, i wouldn't buy it but its nice

Naga Royal Guard
09-07-2005, 08:20 PM
The sonata is a more practical alternative to this. <p><br><i>Modified by Naga- Captain Funky at 10:17 AM 9/8/2005</i> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Naga- Captain Funky at 10:17 AM 9/8/2005</i>

Hornbag
09-08-2005, 03:21 AM
Reasons?

62Lincoln
09-08-2005, 09:17 AM
Another favorable review: <A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/insiders/0509/08/0auto-304565.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/in...5.htm</A>

Nodnarb
09-08-2005, 10:39 AM
And another. And this one is from one of the most jaded bunch of critics I've ever read. <A HREF="http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-neil7-sep07,0,2949445.story?coll=la-home-highway1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/classif...hway1</A><p>And another. <A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sedans_and_Coupes/2006_Ford_Fusion.S180.A9208.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><br>

Hornbag
09-09-2005, 12:58 AM
Thanks for the reviews guys!<p>So far so good, mabey this is the start of something big?

Dodger
09-09-2005, 05:38 AM
I am really glad this car is getting favorable reviews. I know a lot of people were doubting this vehicle so it's nice to see it doing better than expected.

hok_man
10-22-2005, 07:41 PM
I like this car but the 2.3 is too weak for the weight and the 3.0 is much more powerful but just a bit heavier. The gearbox is good 6 speed, but I would prefer more options than just the L selector.<p>And if look at this picture you'll see one tailpipe is fake, it's useless other than looking more cool.<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fordfusion.net/photos/data/2/106Fusion_drivetrain.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>I don't know if this picture is of the V6 or I4, the V6 should really have 2 real exhaust pipes.<p>Does this car like a mazda 6 but doesn' t have the harsh ride, noisyness, and cheap materials? That sounds like a perfect car, but does it keep the 6's perfect handling?<p>And where's the estate and hatchback version?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hok_man at 8:15 PM 10/22/2005</i>

FordRules
10-23-2005, 08:22 AM
The ford fusion is suposed to have great interior materials.And it does suposed to have a 6's Handling.

knicks125
10-23-2005, 09:41 AM
Launch of Ford Fusion hits glitch<p><A HREF="http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw122854_20051020.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.freep.com/news/stat...0.htm</A>

boston
10-23-2005, 02:05 PM
Saw one on the road, and it looks great in person. That Gillette razor grill is seriousl good.<br>If ford had put this engine tranny combo into the Freestyle, I might be driving the blue oval....

FordRules
10-23-2005, 06:48 PM
Now I have somthing to brag about,And theres zFusion ads on CSS now too Look at the bottom.

knicks125
10-23-2005, 07:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>boston</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If ford had put this engine tranny combo into the Freestyle, I might be driving the blue oval....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ford Freestyle = 3.0 V6 CVT <br>Ford Fusion (v6) = 3.0 V6 6spd auto<br>

Hornbag
10-24-2005, 04:07 AM
Well fingers crossed it gets fixed soon, Ford need this car to sell sell sell!

FordRules
10-29-2005, 04:03 PM
The Mercury Meta-1 Will get the 3.5L and 6 speed.<br>Its a Mercury version of the freestyle.<br>But the Freestyle might just be continued.

StevenZoz
10-29-2005, 04:15 PM
Freestyle is being discontinued and mercury is recieving it.

Hornbag
10-30-2005, 02:48 AM
When do they kill the Ford Freestyle? Mercury better do a good job at making it look cool....

knicks125
10-30-2005, 06:43 AM
Just to clear the air a bit...<p>Freestyle is 95% confirmed being killed off after 07MY; however, the name will likely to stay, and to be used on another Ford group product. As others have said, a Mecuruy version of the Freestyle is planned to be produced sometimes in 2007 to take its place, of course, with a new name.<p>I left 5% there in case Ford decides to keep the current Freestyle and remodel it for the 08MY <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> ...but the shift in Ford's strategy is apparent after the struggling sales of the Freestyle.<p><B>If you would like to discuss more on the Freestyle, this isn't the thread to do it...please stay on topic.</B>

FordRules
10-30-2005, 08:00 AM
well it sucks for canada because we dont have mercury up here,Mabye in canada they still make em.

turbonium959
10-30-2005, 10:17 AM
The picture of the exhaust piping is not fake. The pipe splits in two right behind the rear suspension setup, which in this picture completely blocks the y-pipe split.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hok_man</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>And if look at this picture you'll see one tailpipe is fake, it's useless other than looking more cool.<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fordfusion.net/photos/data/2/106Fusion_drivetrain.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>I don't know if this picture is of the V6 or I4, the V6 should really have 2 real exhaust pipes.<p><i>Modified by hok_man at 8:15 PM 10/22/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE>

FordRules
10-30-2005, 11:56 AM
Im pretty sure thats the I4.

Naga Royal Guard
10-30-2005, 03:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>turbonium959</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The picture of the exhaust piping is not fake. The pipe splits in two right behind the rear suspension setup, which in this picture completely blocks the y-pipe split.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>dont worry with that imbecile

Dodger
10-30-2005, 07:27 PM
Are they still planning on offering AWD on these in the near future?

Naga Royal Guard
10-30-2005, 07:38 PM
yeah, likely when they upgrade to the duratec 35<p>test vehicles are still running around so its very likely

FordRules
10-31-2005, 05:01 PM
AWD 3.5L,Its definatly possible!<br>255Hp anyone?

Hornbag
11-01-2005, 12:52 AM
As long as its more powerful that that current engine mated to the 5 speed, i'll be happy :)

knicks125
11-01-2005, 06:25 AM
I believe the optional V6 comes with 6 speed auto tanny.<p>As others have said, horsepower could be a bit higher to make a good competition with the rivals (in the power dept)

megadethmartyr
11-01-2005, 07:34 AM
Extra power would be nice, even with the extra weight from the AWD it should make it run with the rest of the class. Come on GM, Ford figured it out.

GoLeafsGO
11-01-2005, 07:42 AM
At a Ford event a few weeks ago, a marketing employee told me the duratec 35 wasn't going in the regular fusions but was to be "saved for other applications." This could mean for an SVT fusion, or just for the Five Hundred. This could have also changed since I spoke with him. Does anyone have any up to date info on the Duratec 35 and the Fusion?