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JBlair
01-04-2005, 10:38 PM
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<i>Modified by JBlair at 11:59 PM 1/4/2005</i>

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 10:46 PM
definately well ironed shape and execution; but if the pics are courtesy of autoweek, why have they been marked w/ carspyshots.tk ( especially since we have gotten a .net domain) <p>best of luck to GM w/ this

Rugbyplaya91
01-04-2005, 10:47 PM
now it's just another boring family sedan...

JBlair
01-04-2005, 10:57 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">definately well ironed shape and execution; but if the pics are courtesy of autoweek, why have they been marked w/ carspyshots.tk ( especially since we have gotten a .net domain) <p>best of luck to GM w/ this</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Temporary lapse of typing fingers.

ricerammer
01-04-2005, 11:07 PM
don't look too bad in these pics. Good find.

Nick
01-04-2005, 11:09 PM
Thats a pretty good looking car!...Can't wait to see some interior shots...

autodanse
01-05-2005, 12:18 AM
nice! definitely a relief after those original grainy scans. the headlights still look like they're from the G6 parts pin, but that character line stemming from the tailights onto the body is a nice touch.

MrMGMan
01-05-2005, 02:59 AM
This is a reasonable enough stab at a car, but it just smacks of too little, too late, like it arrived at the party 10 years late. I'm sure it would have been a decent looking car in 1995, but this is 2005, and we really should expect better from the world's largest car company, particularly when designing a car to satisfy their home market. If this is the best America's domestic producers can come up with, no wonder the US consumers are voting with their feet and rushing into the nearest Honda, Nissan, Toyota or Hyundai dealership.<p>If GM wants to see its fortunes improve, it should put the same effort into its domestic ranges as it does into its European models. If it doesn't, it'll continue to get its ass handed to it by Honda, Toyota and co.

The Water Is Poison
01-05-2005, 03:11 AM
I still think it looks like a cavalier

cowboysnkisses
01-05-2005, 04:12 AM
I totally agree. Nice looking, if not slightly boring, family sedan. The front looks like an evolution of the last Accord to me, and the tail reminds me of the old chrysler 300M... GM needs to dare much, much more than this. But then again, many americans like these boring designs... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sleep.gif" BORDER="0">

Monkey
01-05-2005, 06:23 AM
Lutz is still at GM, right?

Dodger
01-05-2005, 06:48 AM
Lutz is still there--&gt; and everyone thought he would turn GM around.<p>At this point, I think the interior could make or break the car. The exterior looks promising and GM's interiors of late have been pretty good so lets hope.

Roadster44
01-05-2005, 10:28 AM
Get rid of the spoiler...now!!!!! Instead it needs a mild lip spoiler like on M3 or S4 or Mazda 6 MPS. On the SS version of course.

Ascariss
01-05-2005, 10:31 AM
Only sales will tell us if its a success or not.

Santeno
01-05-2005, 11:25 AM
Police departments and fleet buyers everywhere rejoice!!! Your new impala has arrived. I must say that for a restyling it is very extensive. Even if a bit generic, It definitely an improvement over the styling of the outgoing vehicle.

KebabGud
01-05-2005, 11:32 AM
did they take the frontlights from a camry?<br>i dont like it ..<br>but its good to see a new car .. that is a CAR and not a truck/SUV..<br>

Banker
01-05-2005, 11:39 AM
I think this is one of the cleanest designs out of Chevy in a long time. I predict a huge sales success. The interior looks good. The LTZ and SS packages look great. The engine options should compete well against the Ford 500.

Dodger
01-05-2005, 12:51 PM
Where are you seeing the interior? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
01-05-2005, 01:06 PM
It is a bit boring. Kinda reminds me of a larger Stratus. Still though, its a clean design, and I like that. Much better than the outgoing model. Really glad they have done away with sticking that chrome bar from their trucks onto cars. It always looked out of place. I'm excited to seethe interior. Chevy's materials have been getting much better recently, but they still seem obsessed with grey for some reason. Hopefully they will spice it up a bit, at least in the more expensive versions. Still, stick a V8 in the SS, and I'd take it over the weird looking Charger any day.<p>As for those complaining about boring cars being the death of American car companies, they still play a very major role in sales. The Accord and Camry are both very boring designs, and are consistently tops in sales. The old Lumina, which the Impala replaced was also very boring, but a huge seller for Chevy. The Impala was quirky and put off a lot of potential buyers who like anonymous vehicles. I think the materials inside, build quality, and price will make or break this revised Impala more than the styling will.

Dan J.
01-05-2005, 01:08 PM
I like this more than than the BuicK Lecrosse or Pontiac Grand Prix. Definantly one of the better looking sedans Chevrolet has come out with in a very long time . Clean contemporary and it still looks like a Chevy. A more expressive front end would have been nice but I can live with it. Reminds me of the Accord more than Camry. Get used to seeing them cause alot of cops will be driving them.

jro4566
01-05-2005, 01:15 PM
Over at GMI, we have one pic of the dashboard. Cobalt steering wheel and Cobalt-style vents. It looks classy, but not exactly as nice as the Honda Accord's.

Charger
01-05-2005, 01:37 PM
I would prefer the old one with the new back end

Santeno
01-05-2005, 01:45 PM
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Flagship
01-05-2005, 01:46 PM
To me it looks like the 1992-1996 Toyota Camry and current Honda Accord. Over all I think the older one looks better.<p>For the future police car in the U.S it looks very week against the Ford Crown Victoria. <br>

Player4
01-05-2005, 02:00 PM
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Krypton
01-05-2005, 02:02 PM
i like the back but not the front. The first one was even uglier and sold so will this

knicks125
01-05-2005, 02:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Flagship GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To me it looks like the 1992-1996 Toyota Camry and current Honda Accord. Over all I think the older one looks better.<p>For the future police car in the U.S it looks very week against the Ford Crown Victoria. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree, it looks like an older generation car. Not what we expected to see from a 2005 car.<p>I hate to say this but all of the latest GM releases all should have been released in the 90s, if not earlier. GM had a good year in 2004, and I expected them to continue that way as we enter the new year, but I have to say I am disappointed, so far <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
01-05-2005, 02:47 PM
Here are some high-res pictures I was able to find on GM Media:<br><A HREF="http://img151.exs.cx/img151/5690/impala18mp.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.exs.cx/img151/5690/impala18mp.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img151.exs.cx/img151/9660/impala35zh.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.exs.cx/img151/9660/impala35zh.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img151.exs.cx/img151/9067/impala52rh.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.exs.cx/img151/9067/impala52rh.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img151.exs.cx/img151/6154/impala21kr.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.exs.cx/img151/6154/impala21kr.jpg</A><p>There are a bunch more like that, but I just thought I'd post a few of them in high-res in case any of you choppers want to tinker with it.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JBlair at 3:53 PM 1/5/2005</i>

Speedstick
01-05-2005, 03:01 PM
Is it just me or does the rear end look a lot like newer Opel Astras and Holdens?<p>More info:<p><A HREF="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05la/06impala-monte.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.canadiandriver.com/...e.htm</A><p>"The 2006 Impala sedan and Monte Carlo coupe unveiled today feature revised styling inside and out, but the big news is what's under the hood: Impala SS and Monte Carlo SS receive the new LS4 5.3 litre V-8 with Displacement On Demand (DOD) technology to regulate between eight-cylinder and four-cylinder operation - providing up to 12 percent improved fuel economy in certain light-load driving conditions. The 5.3 litre V-8 produces 303 horsepower and 323 lb.-ft. of torque. <p>A new family of high-tech V-6 engines, which features cam phasing to optimize performance and economy, is standard in both vehicles, with the base models receiving a new 3.5 litre V-6 that produces 210 horsepower and 220 lb.-ft. of torque. Uplevel models are available with a 240-horsepower 3.9 litre V-6 built on the same architecture as the 3.5 litre engine. <p>"The '06 Impala and Monte Carlo deliver more of what customers want from a large sedan or coupe - uncompromising roominess, but with the performance and styling of a sports car," said Brent Dewar, Chevrolet general manager. "Mid-car represents the largest segment of the industry, and the '06 Impala and Monte Carlo will continue Chevy's leadership there." <p>The Impala SS and Monte Carlo SS models receive distinct front-end appearances separate from other models, including dual-split grilles that have a black-diamond crosshatch pattern. Monte Carlo models feature a rear decklid spoiler, with the Monte Carlo SS featuring a separate design suggestive of NASCAR-style spoilers. Impala SS and Monte Carlo SS models feature Corvette-inspired bright exhaust outlets. Impala LTZ and SS have a standard rear spoiler. A spoiler is available on the LT. <p>The Impala features a unique flip-and-fold rear seat. The forward-flip rear seat cushions create a covered storage area beneath the seat with cushions down and offers convenient grocery bag hooks when the cushions are flipped forward. The seat back also folds down to create a generous pass-through from the trunk when seat backs are folded flat - an exclusive feature in its segment. <p>The Impala also offers standard side-curtain air bags, which provide optimum head protection for outboard passengers. The side curtain air bags are mounted in the side roof rails and deploy down to the lower edge of the windows from the A-pillar to the C-pillar. The Monte Carlo offers new optional side seat-mounted air bags, which help optimize head and torso protection for the driver and front passenger."

SV
01-05-2005, 04:12 PM
well, this will definitely sell. i congradulate GM with this, even though it's still on the old platform they completely redid the exterior and made it look infinitely better, and the interior is nice-looking (athough i have a feeling the magazines will say it's still too cheap). way better than the lame update they did to the monte carlo (why couldn't they have just dropped two doors off the new impala skin instead of keeping the old styling on the monte carlo but with the impala front?)

LEXUS FAN!
01-05-2005, 04:34 PM
the grill really bugs me

Dodger
01-05-2005, 04:59 PM
I must say that I am impressed with this car. The interior seems to be very ergonomic and clean and simple. I like the center stack and the blue lighting. I think the Grand Prix could use a redesign already because this new Impala puts it to shame.<p>GM did good with this car and I hope to see it at the Minneapolis auto show in March.

toasteroven
01-05-2005, 05:13 PM
Lumina front end, Stratus back end.<p>Personally, I think Chevy is making a big mistake by moving back to bland looking cars whose only identifying feature is the logo on the hood. They did a good job on the previous Impala - just need to modernize and update it.<p>And would someone please tell GM other interior colors other than "Blandest Grey on Earth" are available?! Every GM that's been splashed on the web this week from the auto shows has had the most drab interior colorings I've ever seen. It's like the car is trying to depress the driver with a putty-bland taupe look.

gkracer98
01-05-2005, 05:37 PM
this reminds me vaguely of the 99-01 Cadillac Catera, especially the rims on the SS. Although i don't like it too much, it looks better than the previous model IMO.

Speedstick
01-06-2005, 06:16 AM
Anyone notice the last gen Impala looks like a 4 door Skyline? If you don't believe me, take a look (especially with the body colour surround on the tails).

Top Secret
01-06-2005, 06:25 AM
It already looks dated. GM really need to bump up their designs to the new millenium, follow Chrysler/Dodge's plans and be more 'out there'.

Monkey
01-06-2005, 06:41 AM
---fingers crossed---<br>RWD 2008....please be better....

Banker
01-06-2005, 07:45 AM
I want a black SS. It looks much better than the Gran Prix. Good job GM.

jro4566
01-06-2005, 08:18 AM
The more I see it, the more I like it - in a bland, family-sedan point of view. I do wish GM had upped feature content though...seems a step behind the competition. Where's the stability control and thorax airbags GM!?!<p>Oh and BTW I made a mistake saying it had the Cobalt's steering wheel - it actually has the new steering wheel of the upcoming Lucerne and DTS.

Banker
01-06-2005, 09:46 AM
The one thing I don't like about the interior is the fact that there is no gear shift indicator on the center console. There appears to be one in the dash but there also needs to be one next to the gear selector.

Bluesman
01-06-2005, 02:10 PM
I have a 96' Lumina and I think this new Impala looks very similar. I'm trying to replace that car with a new look, not buy the same damned thing only 9 years newer! <p>I also dislike the blue dash and radio lights, I think it looks cheap and it reminds me of the Corsica / Beretta era.<p>Sorry Chevy, I'm sure this car will provide value for it's owners but I've got to shop elsewhere...

Bluesman
01-06-2005, 04:33 PM
Chevy has some info. on the web.<p><A HREF="http://www.chevyimpala.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.chevyimpala.com</A>

knicks125
01-06-2005, 04:52 PM
thanks for that link<p>I looked at every pics available and try to like it but i just couldn't. At least the appealing process hasn't sink in yet, the car is very outdated and should have been released in the 90s (the last generation impalas look better, i think)

Soul Man
01-06-2005, 05:13 PM
what i find awfully peculiar is how chevrolet seems to have ditched the barred grille on this and the monte carlo

gkracer98
01-06-2005, 05:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dooey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what i find awfully peculiar is how chevrolet seems to have ditched the barred grille on this and the monte carlo</TD></TR></TABLE><p>leaving out the chrome bar must be something there moving towards..the 2005 Silverado HD has no full-faced chrome bar, but a double chrome bar spread across the grille, and emptiness between the lights....<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/gkracer98/3500_home.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><i>Modified by gkracer98 at 6:09 PM 1/6/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by gkracer98 at 6:09 PM 1/6/2005</i>

StephenKHone
01-06-2005, 11:40 PM
I don't think this looks bad at all. It is conservative like most cars in that particular market segment, (Accord, Camry) and that sells. Overall it is very tidy and handsome. The Grille is actually reminiscent of Chevy's of the early seventies. The Camaro and Vega come to mind. (pre 5 mph bumpers) No matter what any one thinks of the Vega when it was released, stylistically, it was also very handsome. (it was just crappy in other areas unfortunately) This looks like GM is mining some of that heritage. In fact iirc a lot of GM products sported this split grille look around that time. With some really nice aftermarket wheels, the latest Impala should look very nice. I predict this car will do quite well especially if the fit and finish is as good as that of the current Malibu.

AM2
01-07-2005, 02:27 AM
The Impala is heavily modified inside and out, but the Monte Carlo's exterior looks like a simple facelift.<br>2006<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/news/1018/norm_4_orig.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/news/1018/norm_5_orig.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>-autoindex<br>the rear is almost untouched.<br>2004<br><IMG SRC="http://media9.motorcities.com/02JSA472561557A.jpeg" BORDER="0"><br>

Santeno
01-07-2005, 10:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dooey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what i find awfully peculiar is how chevrolet seems to have ditched the barred grille on this and the monte carlo</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Funny you should say that. Go look at Saturn's new batch of products. I think the bar simply fell back into the GM parts-bin.

spwolf
01-07-2005, 09:15 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> I think the bar simply fell back into the GM parts-bin.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>gotta love the bin... Will rent the car next time I am in states...<br>It is not bad looking, but it is already dated and bland... Both Ford and GM are now trying to be bland like Toyota while Toyota is moving away from that... How big will the discounts be? B I G

Naga Royal Guard
01-07-2005, 09:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gkracer98</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">leaving out the chrome bar must be something there moving towards..the 2005 Silverado HD has no full-faced chrome bar, but a double chrome bar spread across the grille, and emptiness between the lights....<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/gkracer98/3500_home.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><i>Modified by gkracer98 at 6:09 PM 1/6/2005</i><p><br><i>Modified by gkracer98 at 6:09 PM 1/6/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>yo, that looks GOOD! i want one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2
01-08-2005, 01:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Both Ford and GM are now trying to be bland like Toyota while Toyota is moving away from that... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ford could also be moving away from bland with the new Fusion and its Mercury version... which should influence the styling of the facelifted Fivehundred.<br>Chevrolet has nice new designs(Cobalt and Impala)... but they are still kind of generic.

rman5001
01-08-2005, 09:15 AM
I'm not sure what else was to be expected from this model???<p>Its a Chevy which means its intended directed at people who are more interested in features, reliability and a good price than performance. They moved almost 300K of these last year, and not just to police and rental fleets. GM also made a good profit on these as the Impala was a bit of a surprise success. They never thought it would sell this well and even had to add a production shift.<p>The interior looks to be much improved over the embarassement that was the old interior. Reliability has always been at or near the top of the class. This car should continue to sell well. <p>Of the W-Cars, I think this is the only one that does what it is intended for. Its the Grand Prix (the one that should appeal to people on this site) and to a lesser extent the Lacrosse that needs the most work and definately a new platform.<p>Having said all that.... does anyone else think the new grille looks like Audi's old grille???

syclone
01-08-2005, 12:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rman5001</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Having said all that.... does anyone else think the new grille looks like Audi's old grille???</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its a bit of a stretch, but I can see where you're coming from.

HondaTech
01-08-2005, 04:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p> Both Ford and GM are now trying to be bland like Toyota while Toyota is moving away from that... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I guess we're always trying to be someone else, aren't we? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

StephenKHone
01-08-2005, 05:11 PM
Yes but GM products had this split grille look back in the late sixties and seventies. Who copied Whom? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

jasmo
01-09-2005, 10:37 AM
While the new design is a bit generic and a mix of everybody else's designs, I think it is a vast improvement (albeit a few years late). I too think that Chevy will move alot of these things just by looking at the sales success of the current model. And, anyone who thinks that the old Impala looks better should just go sit in one. That interior....YEESH! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

Krypton
01-09-2005, 05:19 PM
Chevy sold a lot of the old generation and no matter how ugly or bland the new version people will still buy it even though theirs proabably much better choices which i cant understand

Nick
01-09-2005, 07:43 PM
that occurs with any type of car though...take the f150 for example...before the recent new model came out, the silverado IMO was better than the f150 in every way, but it still sold better than the silverado...the taurus was butt ugly imo, but that sold well also...Japanese cars sell well, but personally I am not a fan of their looks, or performance...everyone has their own tastes, and just because one car might sell better than another, people will buy based on what suits them...if there was one perfect car for everybody, everyone would be driving the same car...obviously that isnt the case...

GerjurdKing
01-13-2005, 12:30 PM
The styling is so bland and overdone. This thing could have come out in 1998 and it still would have looked outdated. The added power is nice but come on...

knicks125
01-13-2005, 12:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SLR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chevy sold a lot of the old generation and no matter how ugly or bland the new version people will still buy it even though theirs proabably much better choices which i cant understand</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep...I think many people just aren't ready to make the switch, even though other compeitors' brands maybe better, cheaper and more useful. They are just so used to them they don't want to switch.<p>Like my neighbor, his whole family grew up with "true" American cars, I know his next car will probably be either Ford or GM. Not that he doesn't like imports (foreign-badged cars - politcally correct name), he doesn't even give them a chance <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> no matter how much I drill it to his head <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
01-13-2005, 03:14 PM
Whoever posted the high-resolution pictures: thanks.<p>As usual, you can see where GM did some cost-cutting, though they are doing a great job at getting away from that. Some things I would like to see in the future are:<br>-side thorax airbags<br>-rear adjustable headrests<br>-digital climate control<br>-electroluminescent gauges<p>Granted, my C doesn't have rear adjustable headrests, side thorax airbags, nor digital climate control, but it does make up for it in the styling department.

syclone
01-13-2005, 06:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SLR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chevy sold a lot of the old generation and no matter how ugly or bland the new version people will still buy it even though theirs proabably much better choices which i cant understand</TD></TR></TABLE><p>a good deal of the people who bite on vehicles like this are current gm owners. after you've had a gm for about a year or two you start to get bombarded with letters in the mail offering somewhere between $2000-$3000 off on a vehicle like this for customer loyalty plus about $400 for college grad and other incentives as well. the msrp might be the same as a camry or accord, but when you factor in those savings, that gm has delivered right to the mailbox, many people are willing to forgive some faults.

rman5001
01-13-2005, 08:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Yep...I think many people just aren't ready to make the switch, even though other compeitors' brands maybe better, cheaper and more useful. They are just so used to them they don't want to switch.<p>Like my neighbor, his whole family grew up with "true" American cars, I know his next car will probably be either Ford or GM. Not that he doesn't like imports (foreign-badged cars - politcally correct name), he doesn't even give them a chance <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> no matter how much I drill it to his head <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>There are just as many people who wouldn't touch an American car no matter how good it is. I have a friend who bought a Matrix but wouldn't even consider a Vibe. Not because of the styling, but because it was a Pontiac regardless of the fact that GM had nothing to do with the design/engineering. I have another friend who won't stop talking about the quality of German cars even when I was driving him to work once a month while his Jetta was in the shop.<p>In any case, it may not be the car for me, but if you like conservative styling, want good reliability (which this has) and features the Impala's a pretty good deal. If GM is going to have 3 cars in this segment, you might as well have one that's geared towards the value-oriented segment.

rman5001
01-13-2005, 09:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoever posted the high-resolution pictures: thanks.<p>As usual, you can see where GM did some cost-cutting, though they are doing a great job at getting away from that.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I;m curious where you see the cost cutting. (apart from the obvious use of an old platform). I always have a hard time gauging interior materials in pictures and need to see the fits and feel the material in person. <p>Having said that, this is the SS model, it will be interesting to see what on this car is "up-level" and what has been dumbed down on the base version.

summersun54
01-14-2005, 03:27 AM
I think this car is very smart. I like the interior a lot... The last model was a success for chevy so why radically change it.. it styling may be a bit bland but it is elegantly bland. The interior looks great the blue backlight is copied from vw golf/jetta( i like it) The plastics on the dash look great IMO. <br>It may be an update of the w body platform but so what who drives the sh** out of their Toyota Camrys or Avalons or Nissan maximas etc...?? Very bloody few people The buttons for opening the door look cheap and the back door trim may not be the most stylish but you can live with that.the fromt of the car is where the drives spends his/her time<br>Well-done gm, a nice car (in top speck anyway) a vast improvement. it will sell, and hopefully not because of its rebate cheque...<br>

Bluesman
01-14-2005, 06:31 AM
The fact is that these cars can be very reliable and cheap to own. I have a Chevy Lumina with 210,000 miles on the clock and still going strong. I'll be between 230 to 250K before I make a change, probably late this year or early in 2006.<p>Not bad!

jro4566
01-14-2005, 07:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rman5001</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I;m curious where you see the cost cutting. (apart from the obvious use of an old platform). I always have a hard time gauging interior materials in pictures and need to see the fits and feel the material in person. <p>Having said that, this is the SS model, it will be interesting to see what on this car is "up-level" and what has been dumbed down on the base version.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Read my post and see what I said...granted, those are small-features which is why I said GM is getting better at cost-cutting. Those small cost-cuts won't keep me from looking at one though.

rman5001
01-14-2005, 05:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Read my post and see what I said...granted, those are small-features which is why I said GM is getting better at cost-cutting. Those small cost-cuts won't keep me from looking at one though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Gotcha... I thought there was something else you saw in the pictures with the trim/fits (the usual GM problems)

southjersey600r
01-14-2005, 07:12 PM
This car looks like a typical gm car kinda bland but at the same time stays with the typical styling that keeps its customers coming back. The rear looks like a stratus to me with the front end some kind of import mixup. I like the last few years impala with the black surround headlights and the kinda square design. This design seemed to be fit good with larger rims and dual exaust etc.. now this one just looks like its floating higher off the ground.

AM2
01-15-2005, 05:02 AM
How big are those wheels?<br>are those fat 18in wheels on the Impala SS?

DoMiNo
01-17-2005, 01:04 PM
Yet another rape of a name that had tremendous potential. The only compliment I can give this car is that it's not as bad as the Monte Carlo.

syclone
01-21-2005, 10:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yet another rape of a name that had tremendous potential. The only compliment I can give this car is that it's not as bad as the Monte Carlo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Since when did it have tremendous potential? This is a FACELIFT not an all-new design.

Dodger
01-21-2005, 12:13 PM
I think he is refering to the old Impalas from way back <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-21-2005, 01:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Since when did it have tremendous potential? This is a FACELIFT not an all-new design.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I just think corporations should be smarter about recycling classic names with certain respect or nostalgia attached to them...<p>Perhaps, being as you are from the United Kingdom, you don't realize the way people remember the old impalas.

knicks125
01-21-2005, 01:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Since when did it have tremendous potential? This is a FACELIFT not an all-new design.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>On some levels, I agree with syclone. If the new impala has potential and sells really well, then I am really going to go crazy. And, if the above happened to be the case, then people must have yet to look "outside the box", I can come up with at least half of dozen sedans (foreign badged) that are better than this. As I said before, IMO, this car is outdated and does not have potential, at least not yet.

DoMiNo
01-21-2005, 01:47 PM
I was referring to the NAME, not the CAR. The car is rubbish, obviously. Did you <I>read</I> my post above yours?

Santeno
01-21-2005, 02:01 PM
Alright everybody, lets start respecting each other's opinions and please stop the bashing.

SV
01-21-2005, 04:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Perhaps, being as you are from the United Kingdom, you don't realize the way people remember the old impalas.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>isn't syclone american but is living in the UK for right now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-21-2005, 06:49 PM
If so, my bad.

Nick
01-22-2005, 03:37 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was referring to the NAME, not the CAR. The car is rubbish, obviously. Did you <I>read</I> my post above yours?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>if the car is "rubbish" as you put it, then how can you explain how it sells as well as it does?

piokor
01-22-2005, 08:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>if the car is "rubbish" as you put it, then how can you explain how it sells as well as it does?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Probably because its so inexpensive and due to all the fleet sales. This car may look better, but it's still the same old Impala we've known for the past few years.

Dodger
01-22-2005, 09:10 AM
It sells well because people who buy Chevy just buy Chevy again. They don't cross-shop and don't know there are better options out there

DoMiNo
01-22-2005, 12:54 PM
GM gives out MASSIVE incentives... especially to GM owners, to get them to come back. <p>Plus, how many rental fleets is this thing in? That accounts for plenty of units in itself!<p>It's about the money, not the product, that people buy this car.

Flagship
01-22-2005, 02:01 PM
As a Chevy Malibu owner, once someone has a Chevy I have no idea why they would buy a second one!<p>Maybe its because the Impala is big and cheap <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

Naga Royal Guard
01-22-2005, 03:25 PM
the new Malibu is well assembled and the interior quality is quite fine actually :)

Flagship
01-22-2005, 03:39 PM
Sorry I was talking about my 1999 Malibu. 30,000 miles and 5 recalls <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The only good feature in the entire car are the automatic lights(they go on automatically when it is night time <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0"> ) and from a distance it looks like a Cadillac Catera.

ToronadoGT
01-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Hey, know what? Let's just start refering to any Impala as a Lumina. That's what it replaced, and until the next generation comes out and may provide redemption, that's all it will be. <p>The old Impala was about as exciting as <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/spam.gif" BORDER="0">. At least this new one tries to throw the old car's crappy design in the trash where it belonged.

knicks125
01-24-2005, 06:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dodger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It sells well because people who buy Chevy just buy Chevy again. They don't cross-shop and don't know there are better options out there</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well said...and that goes to tell you the homework the avg. consumers do <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>FYI - the above also applies to owners of other makers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick
01-24-2005, 11:16 AM
and it makes sense too...regardless of whether or not there is something better on the market...if you like a product, and you are happy with it, wouldn't it make sense to purchase from the same maker again? Thats why GM has the highest customer loyalty...which explains why GM has so many repeat buyers, but hey, there is obviously a reason for it...people like the products GM has to offer, and after owning one GM, it has obviously been good enough to carry the owner over to the purchase of anohter GM...

knicks125
01-24-2005, 11:31 AM
I wouldn't go that far.<p>I'm happy that GM had the highest customer loyalty. That's great, but as you said, there are a lot of other cars that are better and less pricey.<p>I congrat all GM owners for repeat purchases, but many stick with GM cars no matter how bad they are, or many recalls they had. That's not loyalty, that's non-awareness and ignorant of all other carmakers.

knicks125
01-25-2005, 08:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and it makes sense too...regardless of whether or not there is something better on the market...if you like a product, and you are happy with it, wouldn't it make sense to purchase from the same maker again? Thats why GM has the highest customer loyalty...which explains why GM has so many repeat buyers, but hey, there is obviously a reason for it...people like the products GM has to offer, and after owning one GM, it has obviously been good enough to carry the owner over to the purchase of anohter GM...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nick, came across a study done by JDPower on customer rentention in 04:<p><A HREF="http://www.jdpa.com/presspass/pr/pressrelease.asp?ID=2004202" TARGET="_blank">http://www.jdpa.com/presspass/...04202</A><p>I only see one GM brand in top five (Chevy), and only two in the top ten (Chevy + Cadillac). What happened? GM owners aren't loyal after all? WOW...you've got to be kidding me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Results - Top 5:<p>Toyota<br>Lexus<br>Chevrolet<br>Hyundai<br>Honda

mzoltarp
01-26-2005, 06:17 AM
This is far better than the last Impala but it's just a cheap restyle over an old and outdated chasis. I guess boring is better than Malibu ugly, but this Impala is destined for fleet use and little else.

407
02-20-2005, 03:37 AM
This is definate;y boring in design.

ohme467
02-20-2005, 12:15 PM
is chevy stepping on its feet by having 4 bland four-door cars to choose from?

syclone
02-21-2005, 11:26 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I congrat all GM owners for repeat purchases, but many stick with GM cars no matter how bad they are, or many recalls they had. That's not loyalty, that's non-awareness and ignorant of all other carmakers.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>We've been over this before. Its the money GM gives you to keep buying their products that does it. I dunno if you've ever owned a GM vehicle but once you do, you get pretty decent rebates in two years on the next one - especially if you move up from a Chevy to a Caddy or a slow selling Buick.

knicks125
02-21-2005, 12:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>We've been over this before. Its the money GM gives you to keep buying their products that does it. I dunno if you've ever owned a GM vehicle but once you do, you get pretty decent rebates in two years on the next one - especially if you move up from a Chevy to a Caddy or a slow selling Buick.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yes i have owned a GM car before and it sucked...simply put <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick
02-21-2005, 12:38 PM
so the fact that you are against GM is based solely on that one GM car that you purchased? I mean, times have changed, if the car happened to be a model year form the late 70's to the later 90's up until around recently I would have to agree with you that GM wasn't in great shape, but things have changed believe it or not...unless you're giving me something out of the 50's or 60's personally i wouldnt buy a domestic car/sedan (unless of course it is one of the new caddy's excluding the dts) anyways...if I would buy domestic it would be because of pickup/SUV or the corvette...I wouldnt buy Japanese either because they are just not my cup of tea...so not like their styling too much and it's just not my type of car...my main choice as far as cars and sedans go are the germans...preferrably the pre-bangled bimmers, but thats just my opinion, not that it really has to do with anything...I can't really comment on GM cars as I have never actually owned one, now as for the trucks and SUV's I can comment on those and I can say without being biased that they are very good vehicles...my truck for example has about 150,000 miles on it and I haven't encountered one problem with it...it's been a great vehicle, as well as our suburban which has also been a really nice solid vehicle...now, I come from a GM family (mostly chevy) where the only cars we have are from the 50's and 60's and the rest are all newer GM trucks, SUV's with the exception of my grandma's 4th gen Z/28, which i will admit has not so great quality, but personally, i dont care because its a muscle car and its made for one thing and one thing only, to go fast in a straight line (I wouldnt suggest taking one out on a mountain road, believe me, I did once and the results weren't too great...now that I think of it, that would have been the only GM car I have driven...but yea anyways...while i don't think its right to base your opinion of an entire car manufacturer solely on one car (which i doubt you are but it seems like it), everyone is entitled to their own opinion i guess, but it's like if I were to hold a grudge against all of ford for producing the pinto...but again, whatever, I don't want to get in arguments anymore because i find that arguing on the internet is like the special olympics in that even if you win, you're still retarded...

Flagship
02-21-2005, 03:59 PM
I understand what you are saying but GM does not stand behind its products. If you are waiting to talk to a sales rep about leaking transmission fluid and leaking anti-freeze which is coming from a car with only 30,000 miles on it you would expect the sales rep to be nice and polite and apologize about the problem. Well guess what first they let the more important costumers go first who have more expensive cars then when the sales rep finally talks about problem he said that is WAS NO BIG DEAL. Plus he does not apologize and is very rude and impolite, talking on the phone and working on the computer most of the time instead of talking to me. Not only that but their price was $300.00 more than what my mechanic said it would be. <p>My dad also had problems with his Pontiac Bonneville and his Oldsmobile Aurai????? . (Which were the Last GM cars he ever owned)

Nick
02-21-2005, 09:47 PM
well I definately can't argue with that because it's the truth...I hate my local chevy dealership because of those same exact reasons...I no longer go to them anymore...

knicks125
02-22-2005, 07:50 AM
i thank you for your reply and just finished reading it now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I am not going to start an argument either by I just would like to clear the smoke a little bit by saying the GM I owned (a new one) broke down so many times, the first year of driving was fine. The second year, I believe I took my car to the dealer at least half a dozen time and that was frustrating, also the service department was terrible.<p>When I purchase a car, i don't just look at the badge, the brand, or the price, i look at all factors, and every single car available in the class I am looking. The last few had been Asian cars because they are more than adequate in just about every factor, price, power, comfort, luxuriness, reliabilty, warranty, safety, etc. I know this might sound a little harsh but I came to the conclusion that most European cars (BMW, MB, VW, Audi, etc) are WAY overpriced, and domestic offerings are just a tad underpowered while the price is still high.

knicks125
02-22-2005, 12:05 PM
BTW, we all know that GM cars (sales) are slipping, but if they are going to slash up to 2K off its most popular SUVs, then what is that telling you, obvisouly less people are buying GM cars (otherwise they wouldn't have to come to this tactical action), for at least one or two reasons, probably more, which we know most of them, I am sure

Nurburgring
07-17-2005, 06:47 PM
<A HREF="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/050715-1.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/050715-1.htm</A> <br>These are the prices for the Impala for Canada.

StevenZoz
07-18-2005, 08:16 PM
well it should be cheaper for the U.S. because of the exchange rate

knicks125
07-19-2005, 05:22 AM
As I recall, the 06 prices for US have been announced for a while now:<p>LS: 21,330<br>LT: 21,860<br>3LT: 24,760<br>LTZ: 26,870<br>SS: 27,130

Bluesman
07-19-2005, 11:26 AM
Edmunds has had pricing up for the 06' Impala for a few weeks now. <p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/chevrolet/impala/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/new/200....html</A>

StevenZoz
07-21-2005, 07:12 PM
ss is cheaper with this model-- thats good. i was on chevrolet.com today and the pricing for the 05 is 30k.

syclone
07-21-2005, 07:28 PM
Maybe they are just gonna try to sell it with less rebates.

AM2
07-22-2005, 09:59 AM
Other than the engine what is the difference between the LTZ and SS Impala?<br>They seem to be priced so close to each other.<br>Impala LTZ MSRP: $27,530<br>V8 Impala SS MSRP: $27,790<br>Difference of only $260?

haji
06-05-2011, 03:35 PM
MY2011
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/06/2012-chevrolet-impala-first-photos-and.html
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LjOSqOZ0cDk/TejyB3UnUWI/AAAAAAAEfZc/vMVD7OUXIPI/s1600/2012-Chevrolet-Impala-2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VaZsgUxYDNU/TejyCOY92hI/AAAAAAAEfZk/CHHKJ7bpoN8/s1600/2012-Chevrolet-Impala-3.jpg

swizzle
06-05-2011, 04:20 PM
I didn't think the Impala could be more vanilla, but they succeeded. Fleet queen!

cuisine
06-05-2011, 05:09 PM
looks like it comes from 90s

Superamerica
06-05-2011, 05:32 PM
looks like it comes from 90s

Close. This chassis dates back to 1988.

It is clear that GM intends that most Impala sales be destined to fleet, such as car rental companies, other businesses and police.

Personally, I think Chevy's largest car should be the Malibu. GM customers in the market for a larger car should move to Buick. Most buyers considering a domestic car larger than a Malibu would most likely choose a Buick over a full-size Chevy anyway. Also, the market for full-size cars has been shrinking at a fast pace, leaving no room for a bunch of large sedans in GM's lineup.

SV
06-05-2011, 05:56 PM
Bland, but it does have an honest simplicity to it. And at least it has a modern powertrain now.

I wouldn't mind one as a rental at all, anyway. Now if they would just replace this with the Commodore...

Rob
06-05-2011, 06:23 PM
Looks pretty dated but I quite like it... my kind of car, but unfortunately we don't get big mainstream saloons in Europe anymore.

DoMiNo
06-06-2011, 03:53 AM
I didn't think the Impala could be more vanilla, but they succeeded. Fleet queen!

300-standard-horsepower fleet queen, at least.

63Bonneville
06-06-2011, 05:47 AM
Yes, this current (and lame-duck) Impala is a bit vanilla, a fleet-queen, somewhat Jurassic for it's built on a chassis that started as a 'GM-10" from MY1988 (the only GM product now on this chassis), but I'll have to say in it's favor that giving it a standard 3.6L D.I. V6, with some 300HP and a six-speed tranny certainly is a major step in the right direction, as it's basically a place-holder, until the "super"Epsilon2 successor arrives. This 3.6L V6 appears to have similar HP to the old 5.3L LS V8 from the now-defunct Impala SS, though it would have lesser torque.

What I would like to see in the next-generation is it to be Cadillac XTS-sized, for it will be a cousin, and to have the 3.6L V6 as base, and have an upgrade to a reported 3.0L twin-turbo V6, which would give it a level to pit against the Taurus SHO.

swizzle
06-06-2011, 01:39 PM
300-standard-horsepower fleet queen, at least.

As the steering wheel does the lambada in your hands under acceleration...This is a 24 year old platform! GM why is the new Impala taking so long?

boston
06-06-2011, 04:15 PM
As the steering wheel does the lambada in your hands under acceleration...This is a 24 year old platform! GM why is the new Impala taking so long?

We bailed them out and all we get is this pos?

mick78
06-06-2011, 10:09 PM
As the steering wheel does the lambada in your hands under acceleration...This is a 24 year old platform! GM why is the new Impala taking so long?

A combination that really doesn't sound good. Even in an advanced and modern FWD paltform with multilinks all around, 300hp is quite a lot to handle. But in that ancient PF? Good lord...

Seriously, are fleet deals that impressive? I mean even a Toyota Avalon is space technology in comparison, and can't cost that much more for a fleet. Leav alone that large new Hyundai or a Ford Taurus.....

swizzle
06-07-2011, 01:38 PM
A combination that really doesn't sound good. Even in an advanced and modern FWD paltform with multilinks all around, 300hp is quite a lot to handle. But in that ancient PF? Good lord...

Seriously, are fleet deals that impressive? I mean even a Toyota Avalon is space technology in comparison, and can't cost that much more for a fleet. Leav alone that large new Hyundai or a Ford Taurus.....

Fleet sales kept the Crown Vic alive. To he honest, the Malibu and Cruze are the essential sedans and the Impala is just an OK seller mostly to fleets. Too bad the Commodore was wasted on the stupidly named G8 when it should have been an Impala.