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Player4
01-04-2005, 03:14 PM
<I><B>2005 Hyundai Tiburon Sports Coupe</B><br>Styling, Performance & Value<p><br>October 15, 2004 -- Fountain Valley, Calif. -- Three words describe the exciting 2005 Hyundai Tiburon - Styling, Performance and Value. The second-generation Tiburon was all new for 2003 and went on sale during the first quarter of 2002.<p><B>CHANGES FOR 2005</B><p>When you already have a powerful, high-styled vehicle you stay with the winning combination. The changes for 2005 include design enhancements and packaging adjustments. There is a new, entry-level version of the Tiburon called the GS. There is a new ultimate performance edition of the Tiburon called the SE, which builds on the Special Edition package introduced last year. And there is the value-packed high-performance GT model.<p>The exterior of every Tiburon has been revised for 2005. The front end features a new grille and lower fascia, new headlamp and foglamp design. In addition the side garnish has been changed from the original gill design to a horizontal slot style. The side mirrors have been redesigned to improve aerodynamics and provide even better vision for the driver. There is also a new taillight treatment and new badging that reflects the three trim levels.<p>There are three Tiburon models offered for 2005 - the stylish and affordable GS, the refined performance Tiburon GT and the ultimate performance Tiburon SE.<p><B>TIBURON GS</B><p>The Tiburon GS is fitted with Hyundai's high-tech 2.0-liter, 16-valve DOHC, four-cylinder engine. For 2005, Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) has been added for even more precise control of engine emissions.<p>The CVVT unit is mounted on the front of the exhaust camshaft but controls the intake valve timing by advancing or retarding the intake camshaft in relation to the exhaust camshaft. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) controls the amount of timing advance up to 40 degrees of crank angle (20 degrees of cam angle). The CVVT system delivers improved performance at high RPM and increased torque at low RPM through increased volumetric and thermodynamic efficiencies.<p>By optimizing valve overlap the NOx emissions are reduced due to the EGR effect. The 2.0-liter CVVT engine is rated at 138 horsepower at 6,000 RPM and delivers 136 lb-ft of torque at 4,500 RPM.<p>The Tiburon GS is fitted with a smooth-shifting 5-speed manual transmission and the available 4-speed automatic is fitted with Hyundai's Shiftronic manumatic control.<p>The Tiburon GS sound system is an AM/FM/CD stereo system with six speakers.<br>Tiburon GS is fitted with restyled 16-inch alloy wheels and 16-inch Michelin tires. A handsome 17-inch wheel and tire package is available for the first time with the four-cylinder powertrain for 2005.<p><B>TIBURON GT</B><p>The Tiburon GT model is fitted with Hyundai's all-aluminum 2.7-liter V6 engine and a 5-speed manual transmission. The DOHC V6 engine is rated at 172 horsepower at 6,000 RPM and 181 lb-ft of torque at 3,800 RPM.<p>The Tiburon GT is fitted with the standard 5-speed manual transmission; the 4-speed Shiftronic automatic is available. All GT models are fitted with a rear decklid spoiler and 17-inch Michelin all-season tires mounted on handsome 17 x 7.0-in alloy wheels. In addition, the sporty GT is fitted with a leather-wrapped steering wheel, leather-wrapped transmission gear selector knob and leather door inserts. New for 2005 is the efficient HVAC unit features air conditioning with automatic temperature control.<p>The Tiburon GT is also fitted with new seats that feature leather bolsters with cloth inserts that help the driver stay in place while exploring Tiburon's performance envelope. Leather door inserts are also part of the interior upgrade for model year 2005. All of the trim is highlighted with contrasting red stitching on the seats, door inserts and the leather-wrapped steering wheel for high performance styling.<p>Tiburon GT is fitted with an AM/FM/CD/cassette sound system with six speakers. However, Tiburon buyers who want even higher fidelity can take their choice of two available sound systems: a 360-watt Infinity AM/FM/CD/cassette sound system with six speakers and a subwoofer; or a 440-watt Infinity AM/FM/6-disc CD changer/cassette with six speakers and a subwoofer.<p><B>TIBURON SE</B><p>The Tiburon SE is the sportiest Tiburon. It is fitted with the 2.7-liter DOHC V6 engine matched to the smooth-shifting six-speed manual transmission. Drivers who demand the best and love the "snick-snick" sound and precise feel of a precision 6-speed transmission will appreciate the transmission fitted to the Tiburon SE.<p>The SE also comes with a high rear deck spoiler, sport red front brake calipers, ABS, fog lights, aluminum pedals, manual air conditioning, Kenwood AM/FM/CD/MP3 audio system with six speakers, and an auxiliary instrumentation unit with torque meter, fuel consumption gauge and voltmeter.<p>The new Tiburon SE model will be available later in the 2005 model year.<p><B>TIBURON TIMELINE</B><p>Hyundai's first generation Tiburon, introduced in 1996 was a direct descendent of the HCD-I and HCD-II concept cars with flowing lines and lots of curves. The revised first-generation Tiburon, introduced in 2000, brought a harder edge to the original lines. The all-new second-generation Tiburon was first shown at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September 2001 and made its North American debut at the South Florida International Auto Show in October that same year. It went on sale in the U.S. in the spring of 2002 as a 2003 model.<br></I><p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by J.B. at 5:30 PM 1/4/2005</i>

knicks125
01-04-2005, 03:28 PM
Nice, love the whole refreshened front and back <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>thanks...

Player4
01-04-2005, 03:32 PM
<I><B>WORLD-CLASS STYLING</B><p>A vehicle's exterior styling is key to the all-important first impression and the 2005 Tiburon makes a memorable first impression with it's clean, bold design. The design enhancements incorporated in the 2005 Tiburon build on the original theme.<p>The exterior of every Tiburon for 2005 is updated with a new grille, new lower fascia with new fog lamp design, new headlamps, new side view mirrors that are slightly larger to provide a larger viewing area, new horizontal-design side trim, new rear tail lamps, new 16-inch wheel design for the GS model, new badging, new GS seat cloth, new SE and GT seat cloth with leather bolsters and contrasting red stitching. Optional GT leather seating features black leather seating surfaces with contrasting red stitching.<p>Large, low profile high-performance tires mounted on alloy wheels fill the wheelwells, and give the Tiburon an aggressive stance, while both the windshield angle and the backlight angle are steeply raked. Those features, combined with the vehicle's high beltline and "chopped" greenhouse, make the Tiburon look fast even when it's parked.<p><B>AN EXCLUSIVE CHASSIS</B><p>The previous version of the Tiburon was built on the same platform as the Elantra, but the current Tiburon has its own chassis, dubbed the GK.<br>The platform features a slightly longer wheelbase (99.6-in. vs. 97.4-in.) and is slightly longer (173-in. vs. 170.9-in) than the previous version. As a result, there is more room inside for the driver and passengers -- and the extra room provides extra comfort. Headroom, legroom and shoulder room have all been increased to make the Tiburon even more comfortable.<p>The Tiburon chassis is also stiffer and more refined than the previous generation. A front subframe was added for improved strength and revised, third-generation hydraulic engine mounts help isolate engine vibration from the cabin.<p><B>INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION</B><p>The Tiburon features independent suspension both front and rear. In front, MacPherson struts are used with offset coil springs, gas-filled hydraulic shock absorbers and anti-roll bar. The anti-roll bar mounted directly to the strut for more efficient operation. At the rear the Tiburon is fitted with a strut-type multi-link rear suspension, gas-filled hydraulic shock absorbers and anti-roll bar.<p><B>A ROOMY, COMFORTABLE COCKPIT</B><p>From the start, each generation of Tiburon has provided the driver and front seat passenger with a comfortable cockpit environment from which to enjoy the driving experience. The 2005 Tiburon carries on this tradition of driving control and comfort with a spacious, ergonomic cockpit and the protection of driver and passenger front and side impact air bags.<p>The seating position is designed with the driver in mind. The seats offer ample side support for enthusiastic driving, but also allow for easy entry and exit. The controls are intuitive; in the place the driver expects them to be and easy to use. The instrument panel features two large, easy-to-read analog gauges with the speedometer and tachometer placed directly in front of the driver. Leather seating surfaces are optional on the Tiburon GT.<p><B>THE HYUNDAI VALUE STORY CONTINUES</B><p>The standard equipment list includes many features that are either not available or available only as options on other sport coupes. Key items on the standard equipment list for the Tiburon GS include: air conditioning, AM/FM/CD stereo with 6 speakers, body- color rear decklid spoiler, keyless remote entry system with alarm, power windows and door locks, power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering, 4-wheel disc brakes, P205/55-16 Michelin all-season tires mounted on 16 x 6.5-in alloy wheels and tilt steering column.<p>The Tiburon GT includes all of the equipment from the Tiburon plus the 172-horsepower V6 engine, P215/45-17 Michelin tires mounted on 17.0 x 7.0-inch alloy wheels, cruise control, metal-grain interior trim, AM/FM/CD/cassette with six speakers, leather door inserts and leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift lever knob. Options include anti-lock brakes, power-operated moonroof, leather seating surfaces and a choice of two outstanding premium audio systems.<p>The Tiburon SE, scheduled to debut later in the model year, is fitted with the 2.7-liter V6 engine, six-speed manual transmission, red front brake calipers, ABS, manual air conditioning, leather-wrapped steering wheel and transmission shift lever, high rear decklid spoiler, aluminum pedals, cruise control, fog lights, Kenwood AM/FM/CD/MP3 audio system with six speakers and subwoofer and special instrumentation package with voltmeter, torque meter and fuel consumption gauge, leather door inserts and metal-grain interior trim.<p><B>SAFETY FEATURES</B><p>The Tiburon carries a full complement of safety features, starting with the car's strong unibody construction, integrated crumple zones, high-strength steel side impact beams and front and rear five-mile per hour energy absorbing bumpers. Driver and passenger front and seat-mounted side impact airbags are standard.<p><B>AMERICA'S BEST WARRANTY</B><p>Tiburon buyers also benefit from the Hyundai Advantage, America's Best Warranty that includes 10-year/100,000-mile powertrain protection and 5-year/60,000-mile bumper-to-bumper coverage as well.<p>In addition, Tiburon buyers receive 24-hour roadside assistance at no extra charge for five full years (no mileage limit). The warranty also includes emergency towing, lockout service and limited coverage for trip-interruption expenses. Anti-perforation is provided for five years or 100,000 miles. There is no deductible on any of these coverages.<p>Styling, Quality, Value and the protection of America's Best Warranty are all reasons why Hyundai sales in the U.S. have more than tripled since 1999. The 2005 Tiburon is sure to keep Hyundai's sales accelerating.</I><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.AutoDeadLine.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AutoDeadLine.com</A><br>

Player4
01-04-2005, 03:33 PM
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megadethmartyr
01-04-2005, 04:19 PM
They are on dealer lots now. The facelift is great. Two-tone interior helps take away from the drab black everything of the last two years. Made something great ever better.

Rugbyplaya91
01-04-2005, 04:42 PM
hot... thumbs up

megadethmartyr
01-04-2005, 05:51 PM
I am loving the new system in the GT's. 440 watt (up from 360) w 6 disc indash changer and cass. with trunk mounted subwoofer.

Rymanrph
01-04-2005, 06:56 PM
Well it looks great, but I would never buy it. If I am buying a 2 door sports coupe, its gonna have more than 172 hp. Its five years behind in the power department. I don't know how much this thing wieghs, but sheesh. My little 4cyl PT cruiser has 150 hp.

Innotech
01-04-2005, 07:01 PM
wow. Hyundai has turned hte Tiburon into a real dreamcar now. I love it! I have such bizarre tastes dont I?

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 07:07 PM
what is bizzare about a sport coupe?

sono81
01-04-2005, 07:47 PM
This car is really beautiful. I just don´t like the grille. There is any tune shop able to spice up this car´s power?

megadethmartyr
01-05-2005, 01:02 AM
Your PT has no torque comparably. The best 0-60 on the Tib I have seen is 6.9 sec. You PT ain't in the ball park. Please don't ever compare an over grown Neon to a Tib. Have some respet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Alpine Development makes a bolt on supercharger that puts power well over 200 when combined with cold air intake. Rumor is we have a few of those running around. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

Fangorious Reborn
01-05-2005, 01:22 AM
a nice improvement EXCEPT for those fugly mirror oh my god i hate them so much it makes me angry just looking at them, mega u gotta tell someone at hyundai about the mirrors the car looks great everything flows really well but those mirrors are just so abrubtly ugly.....

DaDesign
01-05-2005, 07:51 AM
Thats a way better front end, those new bumpers rock.

r0b
01-05-2005, 09:22 AM
I like the car but I love the interior changes!

megadethmartyr
01-05-2005, 09:43 AM
Believe it or not the mirros are actually different. The overall mirror is smaller but the visable area has been made larger. The aren't the prettiest things but on the other hand, the TIb has the same sort of blind spots as most fast backs, so those mirrors, although not everyone's cup o tea, work excpetionally well. They definately serve their purpose.

Roadster44
01-05-2005, 10:57 AM
Hope they fixed the feel and quality of interior, manual box feel and hope those doors close with sound of those of fort knox!

jro4566
01-05-2005, 01:12 PM
It sure does sound impressive. I do wish however that it had the new 3.3L, but the 6-speed manual should help the performance of the 2.7.

toasteroven
01-05-2005, 05:06 PM
I like the new styling - very sharklike and aggressive. Although I think the pricepoint is still high for a Hyundai. And I'm also surprised there's no big HP boost for '05. Oh well.<p>I've never understood why Hyundai continues to price this car simularily to a Civic Si hatch - with much more aggressive pricing they could get a real slice of the market. Lots of people are still on the fence about long-term durability as well.<p>Especially looking at the '04 car next to an '05 - you wonder why the Tibby didn't look this good all along.<p>As for megadethmartyr's comments about an overblown Neon vs. the Tibby, you obviously don't know what a PT GT is, or what an SRT-4 is. You can mod your Tibby to death, but kiss your 10-year warranty goodbye when you add a blower. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
01-06-2005, 10:00 AM
Yes I do. Just a hopped up PT and Neon. At the end of the day, you still have a neon and a pt. Don't believe I would go shouting to the hills about that.

Roadster44
01-06-2005, 11:54 AM
In all due respect, I'd much rather have the Tiburon than any of Chrysler products within the price range. PT Cruiser and SRT-4 just have lots of power, but not much else to offer. Maybe Neon is a decent road handler, but it crashes over every single bump it touches. Tiburon is way smoother.

spwolf
01-06-2005, 03:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes I do. Just a hopped up PT and Neon. At the end of the day, you still have a neon and a pt. Don't believe I would go shouting to the hills about that.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>lol, I dont care much for PT or Neon SRT, but bashing is never good... Hyundai guys should have learned long time ago that bashing is bad... You could say Tiburon is just another Hyundai, nothing special performance all around...

knicks125
01-06-2005, 05:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>lol, I dont care much for PT or Neon SRT, but bashing is never good... Hyundai guys should have learned long time ago that bashing is bad... You could say Tiburon is just another Hyundai, nothing special performance all around...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mega wasn't bashing, he was just trying to set the other guy straight, about his comments. I totally agree, as a tiburon can easily smoke a PT (I've done it before, on my friend's tibby) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

coolbluelb
01-06-2005, 10:50 PM
Personal opinion, but it seems that the Tiburon has gone the way of late 90's Pontiac (bat-mobile styling with a heavy, underpowered V6). A redesign will be needed in less than two years when the general public realizes the "new" styling is out of date. It is further disappointing that the new world engine has not yet made its debut, as the 2.4l four is rumored to have legs well in excess of the 2.7l six currently offered.

Roadster44
01-06-2005, 10:59 PM
True I'm not a fan of that engine, but all in due time. I'm sure in 2.5 years when new Tiburon will come out we'll see a new engine. Like I say all the time, keep on pumping money back into R&D. Develop new engines, establish new relationships for co-development. Don't worry about profits right away, first a lot of money has to be pumped into cars. That's why GM, Ford and DCX have suffered for a long time, they saved money, made money and kept it.

megadethmartyr
01-07-2005, 01:30 PM
The biggest problem I see as far as the engine goes, and I own a Tib for the record, is the torque steer. Ususally a 3 piece chasis will help with the torque steer, as far as transfering goes. By tweeking the engine to more power torque steer goes up then you have to redo your front suspension setup altogether. The Grand Am rally TIb uses the same engine tuned to 250 hp (natural). Thing that saves that is the monster slicks it wears. Everything elses is stock. So the ability is there, it's just a matter of Hyundai not wanting to price itself out of competition. BTW, the 3.3L are being already being tested for high end output for the next Tib. Look to the HCD-8 for design cues. It won't be out of date. That design is already ahead of it's time. When it gets here, it probably still will be. Except for the LED headlights. FOT won't allow more than 4 fixed lights on the front of any car.

StuckInNYForever
01-07-2005, 06:37 PM
"And I'm also surprised there's no big HP boost for '05. Oh well."<p>I'm sure the next Tiburon model based off the new Elantra platform coming in a year will be able to take the 3.3L V6 from the factory. I wonder if Hyundai is hesitant to put that kind of HP in a sports sedan while keeping their amazing warranty. I would imagine some structural improvements will be necessary for a V6 with around 60 more horsepower.

megadethmartyr
01-08-2005, 09:08 PM
I'm sure where the idea that the Tib is based off the Elantra platform or will be in the future, but as of right now, the 3rd gen Tib (current version) is on it's own platform. There is no current plans to use the next gen Elantra's platform for the Tib. Generally speaking, automotive media usually don't have all the info so they make it up. THE TIBURON IS NO LONGER BASED ON THE ELANTRA AND HAS NOT SINCE THE 03 MODEL.

nstreet16
01-09-2005, 05:53 AM
So wait whats the difference? I dont see it.

megadethmartyr
01-09-2005, 09:36 AM
on the looks? look at the front end the side and the rear. That's what's been changed that easy to see.

knicks125
01-11-2005, 06:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure where the idea that the Tib is based off the Elantra platform or will be in the future, but as of right now, the 3rd gen Tib (current version) is on it's own platform. There is no current plans to use the next gen Elantra's platform for the Tib. Generally speaking, automotive media usually don't have all the info so they make it up. THE TIBURON IS NO LONGER BASED ON THE ELANTRA AND HAS NOT SINCE THE 03 MODEL.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was under the same impression...I guess that's why we are so glad to have you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

southjersey600r
01-14-2005, 07:41 PM
looks good, still a car that put a dent on celica, rsx, eclipse sales when it was redesigned in 2003. Keep up the good work hyundai.

kevinb120
01-14-2005, 08:31 PM
The 2nd gen tib was a really well executed design, if it had any other name plate on it it would sell 3 times as many units as it does. The facelift finishes it off nicely. I have driven a few of the V6's and must say that if people can get over the 'Hyundai' hump for their egos, its one of the better values out there in the compact sport coupe class. They flock to cars like Scion tc's which have been lambasted for lack of any sportiness whatsoever and could of ended up with a much better 'fun car' if they would simply bring themselves to stop by a dealer.

kevinb120
01-14-2005, 08:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The biggest problem I see as far as the engine goes, and I own a Tib for the record, is the torque steer. Ususally a 3 piece chasis will help with the torque steer, as far as transfering goes. By tweeking the engine to more power torque steer goes up then you have to redo your front suspension setup altogether. The Grand Am rally TIb uses the same engine tuned to 250 hp (natural). Thing that saves that is the monster slicks it wears. Everything elses is stock. So the ability is there, it's just a matter of Hyundai not wanting to price itself out of competition. BTW, the 3.3L are being already being tested for high end output for the next Tib. Look to the HCD-8 for design cues. It won't be out of date. That design is already ahead of it's time. When it gets here, it probably still will be. Except for the LED headlights. FOT won't allow more than 4 fixed lights on the front of any car.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Worst torque steer out there is on the Altima 3.5 SE. Way too much engine for such a poorly engineered(and skimped) chassis. There is nothing sporty about it at all, it just feels like a tin box being towed around its front wheels. It will actually pull the wheel out of your hand accelerating out of a turn if you are not carefull. I didn't think the Tib's with the 6 were that bad at all.

nstreet16
01-14-2005, 09:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the looks? look at the front end the side and the rear. That's what's been changed that easy to see.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i see the front bumper change but nothing else....

Snake Vargas
01-15-2005, 07:56 AM
I like it, I think it's a nice looking car. As kevin said, it would be a good car for many if they could get over the Hyundai bit. (for the record, I guess I'm still fighting it myself =p )<p>The front grille could just be a bit wider, meeting the headlights where there is also the join with the bonnet shut line; and maybe the two middle strakes on the gills could go; but it's a very good looking car in its own right. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

jberrer
01-15-2005, 08:24 AM
the worst torque steer is with the automatic trans. the 6 speed car does a lot better.

KaRaceR
01-16-2005, 10:54 AM
looks like the coupe which is the only hyundai i like, so its ok

knicks125
01-17-2005, 07:08 AM
waiting for the convertible to drop... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
01-17-2005, 06:50 PM
Most likely be waiting for 07 model tibs for the convert.

knicks125
01-17-2005, 08:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most likely be waiting for 07 model tibs for the convert.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I know...I am willing to wait <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Rymanrph
01-17-2005, 09:14 PM
Ok, so I think you completely missed my point on the PT. Obviously that car could smoke my PT (its an auto anyway). I'm just saying that the hp numbers are kinda low. I think its a great looking car and I'm suprised I don't see more of them. Now I haven't ever driven one so I can't say for sure that 172 hp isn't enough, but not much more money would get you a 210 hp v6 Mustang that is arguably just as good looking. And the comment on the PT not having much to offer... well that's just wrong. Pretty much everyone that has told me that they don't like PT cruisers likes them now after riding in mine (and its not even a GT). For what I paid for it and the amount of stuff it has and the stuff I can put in it, I think it offers plenty. Just won't be racing it anytime soon. With all that said, I hope it sells well because I wouldn't mind seeing more of these on the road.

knicks125
01-18-2005, 06:52 AM
I am assuming you are address someone else's point.<p>Okay, I am not going to argue with you about which one's better, whether the PT or the Tibby, as I think everyone's entitled to their own opinions. But, I just wanted to make it clear that this horsepower thing is way overated:<p>- Factors that influence the speed of the car, in addition to hp: weight, engine placement, torque, etc (ex: a Lotus Elise is at least 5 secs. faster than a H2 SUT from 0-60, while its engine is a lot smaller, while the H2 SUT has 100 more hp than the Elise)<p>- Having a fast car doesn't mean a thing unless you know how to drive it, you can ask anyone in the industry.<p>- There are so many cars on the road these days, or at least where I am, there is no need of having a fast car, unless you can get a huge military truck and drive over everyone <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Don't put too much on a car's hp, it's about the overall factors!

megadethmartyr
01-18-2005, 12:27 PM
The thing that makes the Tibby fast is it's torque. Readily available throughout the power band. Some people way too much of a premium on HP and forget that without torque, HP means jack. The Acura RSX runs the same 0-60 tiime as the Tib (motor trend tests) but 17 Hp more. Why? The Tib has roughly 50 lbs (I believe) more torque. And unlike 4 cyl, the V6 doesn't have to be wound to the sky to produce power.

Rymanrph
01-18-2005, 02:07 PM
You have a point about the torque, that is really what matters. The numbers I was comparing it to was my brother's Stratus R/T (200 hp 7.4) and the new 05 Stang (210 hp, 7.5 est.) I think both of those times were with auto transmissions while the tibby had a 7.2 with a manual, so I take back what I said, I was wrong. My brother's car seems plenty fast for what it is, so I'm sure the Tiburon is equally adequate.

megadethmartyr
01-18-2005, 09:10 PM
The fastest Tib time I have seen is 6.9

drugmirko
02-14-2005, 01:40 PM
<br>here are some pictures I havent seen before. the size is bit larger so you can see it better. it looks nice, restyle is minimalisticaly decent (regarding to what they did with previous model restyle):<p><A HREF="http://www.km77.com/marcas/hyundai/coupe_05/0primera/gra/03.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.km77.com/marcas/hyu...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.km77.com/marcas/hyundai/coupe_05/0primera/gra/22.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.km77.com/marcas/hyu...2.jpg</A>

knicks125
02-14-2005, 02:09 PM
very nice pics...thanks for sharing<p>good for wallpapers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
02-14-2005, 03:06 PM
Glad mine doesn't have the european reflectors on the back. I think it kinda destroys the clean look.

r0b
02-14-2005, 03:10 PM
Sorry! I know it's not the new one, but it's damn HOT! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/308000-308999/308143_134_full.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <A HREF="http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/308143" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/308143</A>

ricerammer
02-14-2005, 03:42 PM
I really like this design. The front is loads better. The back is nice looking too. Great job Hyundai. The minimal changes make for a better all around looking car.

knicks125
02-14-2005, 08:37 PM
Yep...perfect<p>still waiting for the slk like convertible <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
02-14-2005, 11:06 PM
Patience is a virtue. Should mention, if anyone does live in southern Cali, there is rumored to be a convertible, convered with the hard top, running around testing the roof. It's basically the CCS, not so dressed up, but the basics.

knicks125
02-14-2005, 11:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Patience is a virtue. Should mention, if anyone does live in southern Cali, there is rumored to be a convertible, convered with the hard top, running around testing the roof. It's basically the CCS, not so dressed up, but the basics.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have a lot of patience <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> As I said, I am willing to wait... this is going to be a great car, can i pre-order one now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>now there's some interesting news, i only hope somebody can get some spy shots of it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
02-15-2005, 08:06 AM
Bad thing about trying to get a spy pic of that car is that it's tough to tell the difference with camo on it. Unless you can get a pic from on top and see the glass roof

spwolf
02-15-2005, 05:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Don't put too much on a car's hp, it's about the overall factors!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am sure you will work on that argument until they put that new v6 in tibby (237hp!!!) and from then on, it will be great engineering and 237hp... :-).<p>lol<p>Nevertheless, it is fairly weak for V6 engine, that can not be denied... looking at what Mitsu did with next gen Eclipse....

knicks125
02-15-2005, 09:20 PM
What's wrong with you? you are bringing back something I wrote almost a month ago. I am not going to make the argument about the 237hp but I found it funny you are always the one who likes to instigate and start everything, man you get people on their nerves, I am not going to argue with you, espeically since you have no respect for Hyundai, what's the point, really <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>This is all I am going to post and I don't want to hear anymore about it from you - I had the chance to drive the Tibby last summer, my friend's, it was perfectly fine. like Mega said, the torque is what's helping to pick up the time for the Tibby, so what if it's hp is low, it still gets 0-60 in the high 6, and that's a good number for me, i guess that's not enough for you.<p>You need to stop instigating about everything I post, go worry about yourself. I know what I said b/c I personally have driven all these cars, and I am just telling my opinions. I'd invite you to do the same and stop flooding this place with your nonsense (espeically trying to start with people and having to argue with you pages after pages, go find something better to do) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
02-15-2005, 11:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>Nevertheless, it is fairly weak for V6 engine, that can not be denied... looking at what Mitsu did with next gen Eclipse....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep, they made it heavier and uglier. Moving one step forward, three steps back to bankruptcy. Goodbye Mitsu, it's been funny.

knicks125
02-16-2005, 05:10 AM
affirmative <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Buster
02-17-2005, 09:14 AM
I liked the Tiburon so much that I considered buying one. Then I opened and shut the door. It just felt so darn cheap and flimsy. I could never drive that everday. I guess you do get what you pay for.

r0b
02-17-2005, 10:25 AM
How can U judge about quality by opening and closing the door? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
02-17-2005, 11:30 AM
I'd bet buster didn't even open/close the door. Another one of those people cared too much about image (badge, brand, etc). <p><B>I hope I didn't hurt your feelings too much becuase you don't judge a car by the feeling of door operation <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </B><p>I can tell you, for what is worth and how much you have to pay, the tibby is probably one of the best coupes under 30k

spwolf
02-17-2005, 12:11 PM
best coupe under 30k? heh. Too much competition these days...<p>Its not quality but perception of quality, it is pretty important in Europe and in US as well (although a bit less)... people close the doors, kick the tires, feel the plastic on console, etc, etc. Obviously perception of quality is higher with every new model, so next Tib will probably taut how interior quality has been improved (same as how new Sonata does it).<p>It seems to me that Hyundai fans on these forums are getting more protective that BMW ones :-)

Naga Royal Guard
02-17-2005, 12:19 PM
you said it, and a good few like to vent their angst on Honda/Toyota<p>then it becomes " oh my gosh im so glad to see people being nice to hondai, nobody every has anything good to say about them, OMG THAT STUPID HONDA CIVIC SI CONCEPT IS JUST AN OVERPRICED SH*TBOX!!"<p>its all good tho, if there was a little bit more tolerance on all fronts we wouldnt have this problem <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Naga Royal Guard at 2:30 PM 2/17/2005</i>

knicks125
02-17-2005, 12:40 PM
spwolf...i agree with you but buster's statement about judging a car based on his feelings (on door operation) is ridiculous<p>naga, your point on hyundai fans venting their anger on honda/toyota, I am not sure if I'd agree with that. I guess you can say I'm a hyundai fan, but at the same time I own a toyota brand car and also a honda brand car (acura). I don't favor one or the other, I say what I see and tell the truth...i think that goes for other Hyundai fans<p>Hyundai fans are not protective, they complement and critize on what they see, not only complements on Hyundai products<p>PS: I never said Tibby is the best coupe under 30k, rather, I said it's one of the best, no questions about it, you can take that to the bank. Further, I'd say it is the best coupe under 20k <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
02-17-2005, 12:45 PM
yeh, i didnt mean to fire off a blanket statement; but i does have base w/ others<p>and i would like the tiburon if its headlamps werent so HUGE ( and you have to admit they are huge ) :)

knicks125
02-17-2005, 12:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeh, i didnt mean to fire off a blanket statement; but i does have base w/ others<p>and i would like the tiburon if its headlamps werent so HUGE ( and you have to admit they are huge ) :) </TD></TR></TABLE><p>really you think the headlights are too big?<p>quick, someone photoshop a tibby with smaller headlights so Naga can take it home <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>in all honesty, i think they are okay...not too big, not too small, just right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Buster
02-17-2005, 02:32 PM
The Tiburon looks good but FEELS like it is built to a very low price. It might actually be the best built car in the world, I don't know. What I do know is that the doors are lightweight and cheap FEELING. And that's being objective. Remember, I wanted to buy the thing. It's not my fault that it was a disappointment. If you don't possess a sense of touch, I say go for it. Buy one. BTW calling the car "Tibby" is just hebetudinous. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Buster at 1:51 PM 2/17/2005</i>

knicks125
02-17-2005, 02:49 PM
the better question is that, have you actaully drove the car yet?<p>I still don't get why you put so much emphasis on the door, instead of the whole car and the actual experience of driving it. if you wouldn't mind, please ellaborate on what is it that keep you focusing on the door and the door only.<p>thank you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-17-2005, 03:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Buster</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Tiburon looks good but FEELS like it is built to a very low price. It might actually be the best built car in the world, I don't know. What I do know is that the doors are lightweight and cheap FEELING. And that's being objective. Remember, I wanted to buy the thing. It's not my fault that it was a disappointment. If you don't possess a sense of touch, I say go for it. Buy one. BTW calling the car "Tibby" is just hebetudinous. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I own a Hyundai, and I think I know what you meant...When you open the doors of VW or Audi and then later the doors of a Hyundai, it feels strange. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> They're really lightweight, but I don't think thats bad?! Or?<br>

Naga Royal Guard
02-17-2005, 04:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really you think the headlights are too big?<p>quick, someone photoshop a tibby with smaller headlights so Naga can take it home <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>in all honesty, i think they are okay...not too big, not too small, just right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>they are huge and remind me of the previous generation toyota celica, tho entirely different, the same awful hugeness <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> - too bad the current celica is overpriced and dead <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
02-17-2005, 06:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>r0b</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I own a Hyundai, and I think I know what you meant...When you open the doors of VW or Audi and then later the doors of a Hyundai, it feels strange. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> They're really lightweight, but I don't think thats bad?! Or?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>that may or may not be the case, I just think buster is putting too much emphasis on the doors. I am sure he has his reasons so I'd like to hear why he doesn't want to buy a car just b/c of the doors<p>just a little weird to me but hey everyone's different<p>say you are buying your <B>dream</B> car, whatever that may be, if something didn't FEEL right, which has nothing to do with the phsyical attributes of the car, rather, just your own superstious, would you give up your dream car and settle for something else? I certainly wouldn't, if physically there's something wrong with the car, then I would think twice, if say the door was too light or too heavy, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most likey the reason why the doors feels light b/c Hyundai wants to reduce the weight of the car as much as possible. I certainly did not feel it on the tibby, neither have I felt it on any other Hyundai models, for that matter.

Buster
02-17-2005, 11:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>say you are buying your <B>dream</B> car, whatever that may be, if something didn't FEEL right, which has nothing to do with the phsyical attributes of the car, rather, just your own superstious, would you give up your dream car and settle for something else? I certainly wouldn't, if physically there's something wrong with the car, then I would think twice, if say the door was too light or too heavy, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most likey the reason why the doors feels light b/c Hyundai wants to reduce the weight of the car as much as possible. I certainly did not feel it on the tibby, neither have I felt it on any other Hyundai models, for that matter. <p> </TD></TR></TABLE>If my dream car did not feel right, then I would not buy it. Simply because it would not be a dream car to me anymore. It would be more of a nightmare to have to open and shut something that felt so bad every day. Over and over and over, I would have a constant reminder that I bought a cheap feeling car. That does not inspire confidence in the quality, durability, or crash protection. It also does not make me proud to own it. If the trunk or the antenna did not feel good then I might still buy it. But something that I have to touch constantly I could not live with. None of our senses is more physical than touch. So the Tiburon does have a physical flaw. It offends my sense of touch. At least it makes my eyes happy.

megadethmartyr
02-19-2005, 04:10 PM
Tell you all what, if a Ford GT's door went "ting!", there would 550 reasons to ignore that.

knicks125
02-20-2005, 11:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Buster</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If my dream car did not feel right, then I would not buy it. Simply because it would not be a dream car to me anymore. It would be more of a nightmare to have to open and shut something that felt so bad every day. Over and over and over, I would have a constant reminder that I bought a cheap feeling car. That does not inspire confidence in the quality, durability, or crash protection. It also does not make me proud to own it. If the trunk or the antenna did not feel good then I might still buy it. But something that I have to touch constantly I could not live with. None of our senses is more physical than touch. So the Tiburon does have a physical flaw. It offends my sense of touch. At least it makes my eyes happy.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>every car has flaws...there's nothing such as perfection...and you just have to deal with that

knicks125
05-18-2005, 11:17 AM
<A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/autosconsumer/autoreviews/index.cfm?id=19488" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/autosc...19488</A>

Uberwagon
05-18-2005, 12:35 PM
I think this was the first Hyundai that made people sit up and take notice. It may be getting a little old but it's a tremendous value and damn good looking. Some might say it's derivative of the Ferrari 456GT; I say you could do a LOT worse than copying a Pininfarina design and selling it for $21k!<p>However (and this is not meant to be inflamatory), I think Honda's 2006 Civic Si is going to make this Tiburon old hat soon. Yes, the Hyundai will have the warranty, the leather and a V6 (if slightly weak) but, having driven this Si, I can tell you there is no comparison. For those that enjoy driving, the suspension, powerplant, gearbox and dynamics of the Si will date this Tiburon, fast.<p>That said, I think the RWD Tiburon that is rumored to be coming will be a big blow to Honda. I doubt Hyundai will screw that up. I just hope they don't make it too pretty. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
05-18-2005, 01:13 PM
Agreed...this is a great car from Hyundai (it's derived from the HCD concept, I believe). The upcoming civic si is going to turn some heads, from the early rendering...<p>Wait for the next gen Tibby, late 06 or early 07 puts it at a good timetable...wait for Hyundai drop the new lambda engine, 3.3L or 3.8L, that's going to be something...<p>not to mention the much talked about (rumored) tibby convertible <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 7:09 PM 5/18/2005</i>

nismo
05-18-2005, 01:43 PM
I love the current Tiburon. It is a good package all around.<p>I really don't see why people are reading so much into the "RUMOUR" of the next Tiburon being RWD. No hard info has been released on the Tiburon.. A hyundai exec mention RWD and everybody automatically thinks Tiburon(theres only one article that says the Tiburon will be RWD, that doesn't make it true) but at the same time they hinted that the next Tiburon will be Sonata based. I'm not trying to ruin the party I just don't want everyone to get mad if the Tiburon is FWD.

knicks125
05-18-2005, 01:53 PM
put the 3.8L lamda engine in the Tibby, everybody goes home happy, by then, I think only a few critic would still complain...<p>I am thinking there is a good chance the rear-wheel drive be Hyundai's first attempt at luxury/premium cars, based on the equus (and first car of its luxury line, not counting the Azera).

Superfresa
05-18-2005, 03:55 PM
What cars does this compare to in a country such as USA or Australia?? I was wondering since we don't get this car here any more, and it looks awesome if it's in a low price range...

knicks125
05-18-2005, 04:06 PM
For NA, I would say this car competes most closely with the mitsu eclipse but also Acura RSX, you may also throw in saturn ion quad coupe, scion tC, mustang v6 if you'd like.<p>I also think this car is great for its price. While some might say it lacks the hp, but it has plenty of torque. And, it's very light, under 3,000lb curb weight, while the new eclipse weighs over 3,500lb.<p>In my opinion, this is the most styling car in hyundai's lineup <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>As for the next gen, toss in the 3.8L, you are all set to run wild <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Excellerator
05-18-2005, 04:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/autosconsumer/autoreviews/index.cfm?id=19488" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/autosc...19488</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Loved the link. "Going to Hell in a Hyundai"... by the way she talked, that sums up her experience pretty nicely. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
05-18-2005, 04:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hyundai_Fan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Loved the link. "Going to Hell in a Hyundai"... by the way she talked, that sums up her experience pretty nicely. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>No offense but every driver I have seen with the Tibby is under 30 (my neighbor has one - black on black)...I am sure the reviewers have lots of experiences but I doubt they fit in the above category. The Tibby is mainly a car the young crowd and enthauists sought after<p>FYI - the Tibby in other regions are callled either the Tuscani, or simply the Copue.

megadethmartyr
05-18-2005, 08:26 PM
Don't mean to stomp on everyone's parrade, but don't expect the 3.8L. Currently they are testing both a supercharged 2.7L and the 3.3L V6's in the new TIb. Also, Unless I missed a huge message, the RWD platform being made is not currently for the next gen Tib. It still is going to be FWD. Then again, Hyundai could be lying their pants off to hide it. Should mention the idea of a rally accent is gaining alot of movement.

knicks125
05-19-2005, 05:17 AM
no 3.8L...I sure would like to see that!!<p>Is it because the that would make the car too heavy (heavier)?

megadethmartyr
05-19-2005, 07:43 AM
That's what I think. I also think they should forget about the 2.7L supercharged. The 3.3L will have the same power and you won't have to use premium. I am still holding out for a rally version. Twin turbo w? the borgwarner 4wd. Hell yes.