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Ascariss
01-04-2005, 01:02 PM
<IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss/g6cab.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>It's on wieck so here is the bigger version.<p><I>The unusual weather that has plagued California provides an unusual backdrop for the new 2006 Pontiac G6 hardtop convertible on the beach in Malibu, Monday, January 3, 2005 just prior to its worldwide introduction at the Los Angeles Auto Show on Wednesday. The G6 convertible's retractable hardtop operates with the touch of a button and takes less than 30 seconds to transform from coupe to convertible. (General Motors/Joe Polimeni)<br></I>

Redline
01-04-2005, 01:10 PM
It loos like a chop, but its clearly real. I guess its just that predictable, either that or the red is just looking weird like it does on chops. Not bad, but nothing special. Too bad about the picture settings though, the sky really ruined the shot.

knicks125
01-04-2005, 01:17 PM
I see a lot of Solara cues <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

The Water Is Poison
01-04-2005, 01:18 PM
Except the solara looks 10 times better

knicks125
01-04-2005, 01:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>...DamagedProphet...</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Except the solara looks 10 times better</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly. Without a doubt<p>The coupe looks even more like the Solara coupe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Pontiac needs <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 01:25 PM
FINALY A DEBUT!!<p>it looks ok, should be a good coupe given the 9-3 vert's preformance <p>wonder what promotion scheme they will use to give this away

Redline
01-04-2005, 01:34 PM
I really don't see any Solar in this. What cues does this or the regular G6 have in common with the Solara?<p>By the way, I did a (very) quick chop to fix up the sky for GM, it looks better with a blue sky.<p><A HREF="http://img27.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img27&image=g6intendedshot3nd.gif" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img27.exs.cx/img27/1568/g6intendedshot3nd.th.gif" BORDER="0"></A>

Charger
01-04-2005, 01:36 PM
The lower air intake looks terrible

knicks125
01-04-2005, 03:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Redline</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really don't see any Solar in this. What cues does this or the regular G6 have in common with the Solara?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here is the Solara<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2004_chicago/solara/images/15-2004-Solara-Convertible.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>G6<p><IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss/g6cab.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>The taillights, for one.<p>Wait for the coupe, Pontiac took even more cues from the Solara <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

bm88
01-04-2005, 03:49 PM
I hate that lower front fascia, but the rest of the car looks great!<p>Does anyone have a shot of the rear because it looks like it could be very interesting.

Rugbyplaya91
01-04-2005, 04:44 PM
i think it's a chop also...

Charger
01-04-2005, 04:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rugbyplaya91</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think it's a chop also...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not, it's on GM's media website

Dodger
01-04-2005, 04:52 PM
I like the G6 sedan but the design just doesn't seem to flow on this

JBlair
01-04-2005, 04:53 PM
It is genuine, there just aren't any other pics out yet.

ricerammer
01-04-2005, 05:02 PM
the sedan looks great. I'm not feeling this one yet. Maybe once I see it in person, I'll like it more.

RS
01-04-2005, 05:07 PM
I like this convertible.<br>And it looks better than the Solara where the headlights stretch to nearly above the center of the wheel arches <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Justnoticed the weird G6 's lower grill <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

Mr.D
01-04-2005, 05:21 PM
I'll be looking forward to seeing more images of this car, and of the top in action. Any ideas what pricing will be?

Top Secret
01-04-2005, 05:24 PM
I prefer the sedan version of this. Anyway, since there's a convertible version of this, does that mean a coupe version is already out/waiting to come out?

Dodger
01-04-2005, 05:27 PM
I think a coupe version is supposed to debut around the time this does isn't it?

Redline
01-04-2005, 08:11 PM
I guess the tail lights are close, but thats it. Unless you want to say the basic shape is too close, in which case I can say that the Solara stole its design from the Accord coupe. But I do see the tail light thing.

bluvr6
01-04-2005, 08:11 PM
I was in Malibu yesterday when GM was photographing this car and was able to take a few of my own shots. Here is a view of the rear.<p><IMG SRC="http://img33.exs.cx/img33/5198/g6rear0du.jpg" BORDER="0">

Charger
01-04-2005, 08:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bluvr6</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was in Malibu yesterday when GM was photographing this car and was able to take a few of my own shots. Here is a view of the rear.<p><IMG SRC="http://img33.exs.cx/img33/5198/g6rear0du.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nice pic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>But I dont like the car<br>Maybe if you want you should put Car Spy Shots on it and then put your name on it.

Andre
01-04-2005, 08:18 PM
I, too, strongly recommend taking it down and putting a watermarked image up<p>something simple, but in such a way it would be complex to photoshop off (some people are desperate enough .....) That's done by posting medium sized print (about the size of your pinky) across something like the wheel well.<p>That is a GREAT spy shot!! Feel free to post any other shots you have. Any with the top up?

knicks125
01-04-2005, 08:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Redline</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess the tail lights are close, but thats it. Unless you want to say the basic shape is too close, in which case I can say that the Solara stole its design from the Accord coupe. But I do see the tail light thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Alright I agree...after a few closer looks, maybe there aren't as many similarities as I had first thought, but the basic shape is very close between the two. Overall, in my opinion, I still think the Solara looks better.<p>"Solara stole its design from the Accord coupe" - I am just not following your argument, and I am not convinced. I am not saying you are wrong, you may or may not be, I just want to see something that you can back up that statment. Thanks!

autodanse
01-04-2005, 09:09 PM
the rear is very sexy, but i can't get over that split lower fascia. it looks terrible.

anonms
01-04-2005, 10:27 PM
The G6 line really resembles the Camry line. Bob Lutz sure choose a great candidate to mimick.<p>But I'd have to say I like the Solara's rear end much better. For such a big ass, the G6's lights seem way too puny.

Rugbyplaya91
01-04-2005, 10:57 PM
If it is a chop it looks pretty damn good

Andre
01-04-2005, 11:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rugbyplaya91</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it is a chop it looks pretty damn good</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not, we confirmed it when a member delivered a personally taken photograph of the car as it was being prepped to be shot<p>but It does look pretty damn good. I personally like this more than the Solara Vert

bluvr6
01-04-2005, 11:52 PM
Thanks for the info about the watermark. I figured I didn't need one since GM has already released a pic of the car and it will be officially released tomorrow at the LA auto show. Unfortunately, I don't have any shots with the top up and the other ones I took are not as clear as the one I posted. Glad you enjoyed the rear view pic. <p>And, for what it's worth.... from further away, it really does resemble the Solara. That's what I thought it was when I first saw it.

Nick
01-05-2005, 12:05 AM
Here are the G6 coupe and vert...<br><A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10668&hl=" TARGET="_blank">G6 coupe/vert</A><p>if someone else would like to transfer everything from the page, then feel free to do so...but its too large to fit in CSS so it needs to be broken down and whatnot and i do not feel like doing it... <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Nick at 11:10 PM 1/4/2005</i>

jro4566
01-05-2005, 01:08 PM
It looks good...bland good. Still 245HP should be fun!

syclone
01-05-2005, 01:23 PM
It does look a lot liek the Solara. But the Solara is a softtop and this has a folding hardtop, which should work in its advantage.<br>

Speedstick
01-05-2005, 03:09 PM
"Pontiac unveiled its new G6 Coupe and G6 hardtop convertible models today. Compared with the four-door, five-passenger G6 sedan, the G6 coupe and convertible models are two-door, four-passenger vehicles with all-new body panels rearward of the A-pillars and large, wraparound tail lamps on both models. <p>The 2006 Pontiac G6 hardtop convertible is built on the same platform as the coupe, but was strengthened in key areas to bolster vehicle rigidity. It features a unique two-piece clamshell-style retractable hardtop engineered with input from renowned German coachbuilder Karmann. It is the world's largest retractable hardtop. A long top was necessary to enclose the spacious interior. A double-hinged trunk lid opens like a conventional trunk for cargo storage, but is reverse-hinged to accept the folding hardtop. A hard tonneau cover automatically appears as part of the hardtop retraction process, and there is no visible "stack" when the top is down - it simply disappears into the storage compartment. <p>The convertible hardtop operates with the touch of a single button, and takes less than 30 seconds. When the top is stowed, the trunk size is very small: 1.8 cubic feet (61 litres) of cargo space. With the top up, trunk capacity increases to 5.8 cubic feet (164 litres). That compares to 14 cubic feet (396 litres) in the coupe. <p>"The G6 coupe delivers outstanding performance and generous interior room, and the G6 is the only hardtop convertible that has room for four adults," said Jim Bunnell, Pontiac-GMC general manager. "They're great because they fit so many of us. Families living in the north can justify even the convertible - there's room and the top will keep out the elements." <p>The G6's extra-long 112.3-inch wheelbase provides optimum interior space and improved ride and handling characteristics. Both the coupe and convertible have longer doors than the sedan: they're 6 inches (152.4 mm) longer than the G6 sedan's front doors and are about 2 or 3 inches longer than doors on most competitors' coupes. Also aiding rear seat access is the front passenger seat, which slides forward when the seatback is released. Both the coupe and convertible offer approximately 35 inches (889 mm) of rear legroom. Headroom, too, is comparable to the G6 sedan. <p>G6 coupe and convertibles will be available in GT and GTP models. The GT models feature a 200 horsepower 3.5 litre OHV V6 and four-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode, while the GTPs feature a 240 horsepower 3.9 litre OHV V6 coupled to a 4-speed automatic with manual shift mode, or a 6-speed manual in the coupe model - a package that targets driving enthusiasts. <p>17-inch wheels are standard on G6 GT and GTP coupe and 18-inch wheels standard on G6 GT and GTP convertibles. All G6 models feature independent sport-tuned suspensions, four-wheel disc brakes with four-channel ABS, standard enhanced traction system and optional Vehicle Dynamic Control System. Inside are leather-wrapped steering wheel and highly-bolstered sports seats, optional leather and heated seating, premium audio system with in-dash six-CD changer, available side and head curtain air bags (coupe only), optional remote start and sunroof (coupe only), and OnStar."<p><A HREF="http://www.canadiandriver.ca" TARGET="_blank">http://www.canadiandriver.ca</A>

Speedstick
01-05-2005, 03:14 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05la/images/06g6_gtp_c_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05la/images/06g6_gtp_c_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05la/images/06g6_gtp_c_3.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05la/images/06g6_gtp_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05la/images/06g6_gtp_2.jpg" BORDER="0">

bucket
01-05-2005, 03:44 PM
both the coupe & convertible look infinitely better than the sedan. the next logical step would be for GM to find some decent engines and put them under the hood. offering the coupe with a turbocharged dohc V6 would be a good start.

Dal
01-05-2005, 04:52 PM
i think this car looks great

nstreet16
01-05-2005, 06:49 PM
So wait...its not like the Thunderbird rite? where u gotta take off the top and fold it in the trunk urself? Its like another SLK rite? Im sooo confused.

Player4
01-05-2005, 08:56 PM
<IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010564157_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010564157_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><I>General Motors Vice Chairman Bob Lutz gets behind the wheel of the new 2006 Pontiac hardtop convertible after its introduction at the Los Angeles Auto Show Wednesday, January 5, 2005. The G6 convertible's retractable hardtop operates with the touch of a button and takes less than 30 seconds to transform from coupe to convertible. (General Motors/Joe Polimeni)</I><p><br><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010564119_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010564119_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><I>Media crowd around the new 2006 Pontiac G6 hardtop convertible as General Motors Vice Chairman Bob Lutz is interviewed by reporters after introducing the car at the Los Angeles Auto Show Wednesday, January 5, 2005. (General Motors/Joe Polimeni)</I><p><br><IMG SRC="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010562943_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA200501/WKA2005010562943_pv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i.tnpv.us/2005/WKA20050...v.jpg</A><p><I>General Motors Vice Chairman Bob Lutz introduces the new 2006 Pontiac G6 hardtop convertible at the Los Angeles Auto Show Wednesday, January 5, 2005. The G6 convertible's retractable hardtop operates with the touch of a button and takes less than 30 seconds to transform from coupe to convertible. (General Motors/Joe Polimeni)</I><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.AutoDeadLine.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AutoDeadLine.com</A>

Speedstick
01-06-2005, 06:19 AM
Read the article - it's a folding hardtop like the SLK. In fact the world's biggest as of yet so they say, and the only on a 4 seat convertable.

Top Secret
01-06-2005, 06:31 AM
I don't like the rear on the coupe, something about how the roofline tapers off into the boot really bugs me - it just looks awkward.

Dal
01-06-2005, 06:37 AM
lexus sc430 has folding hardtop and has 4 seats

Dodger
01-06-2005, 06:47 AM
The coupe just does not look right. Everything about the rear end (except the dual exhaust) looks wrong. The tail lights are way too small and nothing flows. The molded incorporated spoiler thing looks ugly. I can also see some accord coupe lines in the greenhouse. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

Dodger
01-06-2005, 06:50 AM
Just looking at it, the coupe at least, looks like an Accord and Solara love child w/ a Pontiac front end.

jro4566
01-06-2005, 08:20 AM
It looks really good in red! And I'm glad GM showed the car with a beige interior for the media...instead of that sea of BLACK interior they did for the sedan.

Roadster44
01-06-2005, 11:17 AM
I think its a good car, although styling is okay it is a bit too dull for my taste. Lack of aggression and personality.

knicks125
01-06-2005, 11:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think its a good car, although styling is okay it is a bit too dull for my taste. Lack of aggression and personality.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree 100%. To be honest, it's an okay car to me, can't really get too excited about this one (usually I do when new cars are released). Even the GTP models can't get me that excited. Sorry <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Roadster44, you going to the NAIAS? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>what is this <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> doing here <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 3:09 PM 1/6/2005</i>

Dodger
01-06-2005, 02:00 PM
I really did not like this car at first but it really isn't that bad. I applaud GM for taking the chance with these. They will not doubt be good sellers. I just wish they had the three spoke steering wheel from the Torrent--&gt; that would make them a little more sporty on the inside.

Roadster44
01-06-2005, 10:45 PM
Yep I'll be at the show. Opening to public 15 through 22. <A HREF="http://www.naias.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.naias.com</A> Anybody can set me up with industry preview days? Or should I just wear a tux and sneak in. lol

nstreet16
01-07-2005, 12:22 AM
i just gotta see the whole retractable roof thing myself before i could ever imagine it on this car. And plus...i dont think it would leave much room for cargo.

Volkswagen AG
01-07-2005, 01:19 AM
Sure it looks like the Solara's baby brother, but I'm just happy that finally the US has a mainstream folding hard-top convertible. I do wish the front of the G6 was more aggressive though.

Volkswagen AG
01-07-2005, 01:29 AM
Hey Roadster44, what day are you going to NAIAS? I'll be there the first day on the 15th. My friends think I'm crazy because I go to Detroit just for the auto show, but I love it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-07-2005, 06:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volkswagen AG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Roadster44, what day are you going to NAIAS? I'll be there the first day on the 15th. My friends think I'm crazy because I go to Detroit just for the auto show, but I love it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You should make some new friends then...j/k<p>If I could get out a few days off from work, I would go to Detroit just for the auto show. I live for this <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>But defn. next year though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
01-07-2005, 09:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dodger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really did not like this car at first but it really isn't that bad. I applaud GM for taking the chance with these. .</TD></TR></TABLE><p>you applaud a lot dude, take it easy on your hands :-)<p>sorry could not resist... profile running to back and back looks like slightly toned down Solara...eh. Lutz sux.

nstreet16
01-08-2005, 10:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volkswagen AG</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sure it looks like the Solara's baby brother, but I'm just happy that finally the US has a mainstream folding hard-top convertible. I do wish the front of the G6 was more aggressive though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>but that means its gonna be expensive for the retractable hardtop for 4.

Nick
01-08-2005, 05:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you applaud a lot dude, take it easy on your hands :-)<p>sorry could not resist... profile running to back and back looks like slightly toned down Solara...eh. Lutz sux.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I dont undewrstand why you think Lutz sucks...he has doen a whole hell of a lot for GM andhe has really turned it around...look at the cars before lutz came into play, then look at what he has done now...definite improvement if you ask me...IMO Lutz is a great man and has done a lot of good for the company...without him it would be scary to see where GM would be today...

Naga Royal Guard
01-08-2005, 05:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO Lutz is a great man and has done a lot of good for the company...without him it would be scary to see where GM would be today...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hes a great man who said that women are good for nothing but " looking good" and cooking; which is what he said shortly after the highly acclaimed oprah G6 promotion <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Oslo
01-11-2005, 07:05 PM
They should've used oval tail-pipes coming out from the rear, I think it would've looked much nicer then the dinky Civic style ones...

AM2
01-14-2005, 07:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dal</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lexus sc430 has folding hardtop and has 4 seats</TD></TR></TABLE><br>and sc430 also has rear seats(tiny ones)....<br>True the convertible/hardtop looks like an SC430 and the coupe has a bit of Scion tC in it, because of its long wheelbase+cab forward proportions.

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 02:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dal</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lexus sc430 has folding hardtop and has 4 seats</TD></TR></TABLE><p>4 seats, pfft. For amputees, maybe.<p>Anyway, I'm really surprised at the lukewarm reaction the G6 coupe/convertible are getting. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> I was pleasantly surprised with the design... it may not be the most exciting convertible on the market, but it's a folding hardtop, and nothing in the design is particularly offensive, which for GM is a step forward. I do agree that it shares some elements with the solara, but it all seems like a logical extension of the G6 design.<p>I'd... rent it.

Rugbyplaya91
01-16-2005, 08:52 PM
lol sorry i kept saying it was a chop please forgive me<br>

KaRaceR
01-17-2005, 07:16 AM
i agree with charger the lower front intake did hav much effoet put into it it just looks like a gapping big hole, the front is a little to pointy for my liking, the rest is ok

knicks125
08-15-2005, 05:28 AM
Another GM product failure - not good:<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102977" TARGET="_blank"><B>Top troubles plague G6 convertible; parts fail on key Pontiac product</B></A><p>Did anyone catch how much this car would be going for <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:41 AM 8/15/2005</i>

Swallow Doretti
08-15-2005, 08:44 AM
I wouldn't touch this car at any price at this point. I have no faith that, even if GM does go ahead with production, that the technology will be fully worked out and that the top will actually work for the life of the car.<p>This project has turned into a disaster for GM: they're damned if they cancel the car, and I fully expect they'll be damned if they produce it.

Naga Royal Guard
08-15-2005, 12:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another GM product failure - not good:<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102977" TARGET="_blank"><B>Top troubles plague G6 convertible; parts fail on key Pontiac product</B></A><p>Did anyone catch how much this car would be going for <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:41 AM 8/15/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>hah, if they dont know how to make something properly, then DONT MAKE IT! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
08-15-2005, 04:42 PM
it's like the G6 is jinxed, first the sedan flops and now the convertible has horrible mechanical problems. GM's upcoming products look promising, but the G6 IMO is sort of like the "ghost of GM's horrors past" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
08-15-2005, 04:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's like the G6 is jinxed, first the sedan flops and now the convertible has horrible mechanical problems. GM's upcoming products look promising, but the G6 IMO is sort of like the "ghost of GM's horrors past" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Sedan did NOT flop, it just didn't get as much attention as GM had hoped. (IIRC, one of the dealers who frequents GMI even said that G6 sales are about the same as Grand Am sales were, if not more) The G6 stills sells a lot of units, and does pretty well for itself, it just didn't meet GM's ambitious sales targets for it. The coupe is going to help tremendously, because it is a good looking vehicle, and brings with it the new 3.9 liter V6 that will draw some new buyers into the G6 fold, and I believe the 4 cylinder version is coming soon as well. (if its not already out)<p>As for the cost of the G6 convertible, I just have one simple question for all of you: Can you name even one hardtop 4 seat convertible sold in the US that sells for $30,000, other than the forthcoming G6 and perhaps the Volvo C50 (more than that cost though, I believe)? I thought not..........<p>

Naga Royal Guard
08-15-2005, 05:02 PM
overall sales didnt justify all the whopla and promotion GM threw for it - i doubt the sonata has had so much promotion, and it is bound to outsell the G6 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

62Lincoln
08-15-2005, 05:06 PM
July 2005 YTD sales for the G6 are 63,562 units. July 2004 YTD sales for the Grand Am were 93,939 units. Has the G6 been on sale all year? If it has, it looks like it has lost some sales versus the Grand Am. Of course, this doesn't address sales trends, so perhaps the G6 is building momentum.

Naga Royal Guard
08-15-2005, 05:07 PM
wasnt this thing on sale last fall? when they were giving truckloads of them away on oprah ( pathetic scheme )

Redline
08-15-2005, 05:08 PM
I don't know about that, the 4-cylinder is probably going to be a big sales hit, and I didn't see as many ads for the G6 as I do the Sonata. Most of the ads that even had the G6 in it were just Chevy or GM ads, not for a specific model. I think you might be underestimating the G6. As for the 4-seat hardtop convertible, I can't even name a 2-seat, this is going to be a bargin of a hardtop vert.

Naga Royal Guard
08-15-2005, 05:12 PM
$30,000 for the same car w/ the deepfried plastic interior really isnt such a smashing deal

caarmike
08-15-2005, 05:38 PM
The G6 convertible is starting to remind me of the Beretta Convertible. They promoted that thing for over a year and never sold one.<p>As for overall G6 sales, I think one thing explains most of the difference - Fleet Sales. A huge portion of Grand Am output went to fleets, but how many rental G6s has anyone seen. In fact the Grand Am remained in production for fleets only through the first half of '05. So comparing' 04 Grand Am sales to '05 G6 sales is really not a fiar comparison.

Naga Royal Guard
08-15-2005, 06:11 PM
the local rental places have a few G6s, along with 300cs, magnums, avalons and the usual camrys and minivans

nismo
08-15-2005, 06:18 PM

Rugbyplaya91
08-15-2005, 08:05 PM
commercial says 24k for the coupe.

62Lincoln
08-16-2005, 06:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>caarmike</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>As for overall G6 sales, I think one thing explains most of the difference - Fleet Sales. A huge portion of Grand Am output went to fleets, but how many rental G6s has anyone seen. In fact the Grand Am remained in production for fleets only through the first half of '05. So comparing' 04 Grand Am sales to '05 G6 sales is really not a fiar comparison.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's a good point - I looked at sales totals again, and the Grand Am has YTD 2005 sales of 30,352, so total G6/Grand Am YTD 2005 sales are about equal to 2004 YTD Grand Am totals. July sales for the G6 in 2005 were 10,091 versus 10,004 for the Grand Am in 2004, so it appears the G6 is holding its own. I think GM expected big gains with the G6, not to tread water, so the jury is still out on the G6.

piokor
08-16-2005, 08:14 AM
We shouldn't really be comparing July sales because GM had the employee pricing during that month. Also, a while back, I read an article on Autoweek.com that said that dealers were unimpressed and dissappointed by the G6. They even wished that GM would have kept the Grand Am name because it has more brand recognition. So as of right now, Pontiac is hurting when it comes to the G6 and it is far from a success.

JBlair
08-16-2005, 10:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We shouldn't really be comparing July sales because GM had the employee pricing during that month. Also, a while back, I read an article on Autoweek.com that said that dealers were unimpressed and dissappointed by the G6. They even wished that GM would have kept the Grand Am name because it has more brand recognition. So as of right now, Pontiac is hurting when it comes to the G6 and it is far from a success.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You cannot draw conclusions about the success or failure of a model based on the reactions of dealers to the model in question. By all rights, the G6 has been a success......

piokor
08-16-2005, 12:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> By all rights, the G6 has been a success......</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Do you have any proof of this other than the July sales data?

synthesis
08-17-2005, 10:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>caarmike</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for overall G6 sales, I think one thing explains most of the difference - Fleet Sales. A huge portion of Grand Am output went to fleets, but how many rental G6s has anyone seen. In fact the Grand Am remained in production for fleets only through the first half of '05. So comparing' 04 Grand Am sales to '05 G6 sales is really not a fiar comparison.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've seen quite a few rental g6's around here (bay area, ca.) I personally rented one a few months ago, and was impressed by the improvement over the old grand am (1994, granted there should be alot of changes over an entire decade of evolution). The g6 interior is still cheap, but not nearly to the point of gm cars a few years ago. handling and power were very decent. But of course, there is no chance I would ever buy one.

G35audioman
08-23-2005, 12:00 PM
The problem is, people continue to compare new GM cars to old GM cars. The comparison should be between the new GM models and the rest of the industry. The G6 from that standpoint is a failure. If you compare it to other GM models (past and present), then it is a decent car...

Nodnarb
08-24-2005, 07:34 AM
How is it a failure compared to the rest of the industry? It has three engine choices, a 167 HP four cylinder,a 201 HP 6 cylinder and a 240 HP 6 cylinder. Doesn't seem to be failing there. Alright, how about fuel economy? 23-34 on the four cylinder and 22-32 from the six cylinder, so that's not the problem. Pricing? From $17,990 to $24,835 for a top of the line, without factoring rebates, so thats not it either. Disc brakes all around. Side airbags. 5 star frontal crash rating and 4 for the side. 14 cubic foot trunk. It might not have the prettiest center stack like a VW or perhaps an Accord, but that is far from being a failure compared to the rest of the industry. And does any other family sedan have a panoramic sunroof?

sanbar778
08-24-2005, 08:36 AM
Pricing and engine output are not at all good measures of failure status. The G6 doesn't just have an unattractive interior, it has a CHEAP interior. The panoramic sunroof, while a neat thing, is hardly something to get giddy over. No doubt the other car companies could have easily offered panoramic sunroofs on their family sedans as standard had they discontented their interiors as much as GM did with the G6. I am positive that any other car company could make a panoramic sunroof and offer it as an option that can't be very hard, but there probably really isn't that much of a demand for one. Fact is, when I sit in the G6 I can see why the interior alone makes it a failure.

knicks125
08-24-2005, 08:39 AM
Rebuttal based on your points:<p>$24,835 is simply the base price for the GTP version; the 3.9L only puts out 240hp, and of course, it suffers a horrible 18/26 EPA estimated mpg. Keep in mind that base price does not include any options; with added options, can get fairly hefty into sub-30k. How competitive with the rest of the industry is a subjective call and your call, but there are at least two other cars in the industry with its V6 puts out more hp than the G6 GTP trim, while there is at least another car who has a hp rating only a few hps lower than 240 but cost thousands less than the G6 GTP (from a power rating standpoint) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Back on topic, the failure does exist on the convertible version, which is still pending will be delayed on its release. I say, just push it back until late next spring, when most of the country actually have use for a convertible.

Redline
08-24-2005, 09:10 AM
It will still be the first affordable hard top convertible in the US, that pushes it far away from failure. If someone else can beat them to market with a cheap hard top convertible, then I'll agree they screwed up, but if they can't, then what does Pontiac lack that the other competitors have? Oh wait, there won't be any other competitors except for the Solara convertible that has a soft top.

knicks125
08-24-2005, 09:15 AM
I was talking about this:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another GM product failure - not good:<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102977" TARGET="_blank"><B>Top troubles plague G6 convertible; parts fail on key Pontiac product</B></A><p>Did anyone catch how much this car would be going for <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:41 AM 8/15/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE>

Nodnarb
08-24-2005, 10:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mark-Hans Richer, Pontiac Marketing Director</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> "There has been a lot of misinformation about the G6," he said. "Beside sales being up significantly over Grand Am, we're getting $5,000 more per unit than we did with Grand Am  after incentives. We have 75 percent fewer rental-fleet sales, which is a good thing, and our average buyer's age, in the low 40s, is three years younger than the average in the midsize segment. <p>"The truth is we are selling more and doing much better with this car than with the Grand Am." <p>"Comparing sales of the G6 to comparable models of last year's Grand Am, retail sales are up 75 percent through June."</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The numbers don't lie. This car is far from a failure sales wise. The performance numbers and diminsions show it is competitive in class, but yet you still discredit it because the high performance model prices touches the low 30's fully equiped. But when rebates and incentives are factored in, it brings it back below an optioned out Camry with less performance. And for the record, 18-26 is not horrible mileage. Yeah, it's two MPG below the Accord V6 in the City, but the highway mileage is acceptable. Just because the convertible is delayed doesn't mean it is a failure. And the interior bit is subjective. While yes, as I conceded in my first post, the center stack isn't pretty, it is far from cheap. Plus the new steering wheel does wonders for this car's interior. <br><IMG SRC="http://www.tuningnews.net/news/050106a/pontiac-g6-coupe-convertible-05.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>As you said, the interior is enough to turn you off, and that is fine, but it has done the opposite for others. And rhetorical question, if the panoramic sunroof is so easy to do, then why don't others do it? I know the demand suposedly isn't there, but still, why has no one else tried until this point?<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Canadian Driver</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A roomier, sporty interior is spoiled only by radio and heater controls.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Edmunds InsideLine</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The G6's smoothed exterior treatment carries into the cabin. The instrument panel sports a striking gauge cluster trimmed with bright chrome bezels, and every LED display across the dash and down the center stack is illuminated by catchy red backlighting.<p>The cabin is less plasticky and quieter than the Grand Am's interior, plus it's hipper than the Camry's stodgy cockpit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AutoBlog</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Inside the car is a terrific looking, quality piece. As always black plastic looks best in any car and in this model, the two-tone with the tan fabrics and leather seats is a nice combination. Inside I just love the G6. It is very cool looking.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And do I need to remind anyone about how the G6 won the Strategic Vision award for higest quality?

knicks125
08-24-2005, 10:38 AM
As someone mentioned, you are only comparing a few of the areas, e.g. hp rating, price, what draws people to cars such as the Camry and the Accord is very little of above; rather, reliablity and loyalty, maybe also styling. Anyway, if you still would like to argue about those points you started orginially, and since I didn't mention the specifics in my first post, why don't I just lay it out here:<p>G6: <br>4cyl - $17,990 (167hp)<br>6cyl - $20,655 (201hp)<br>GTP - $24,835 (240hp)<p>Altima:<br>4cyl - $19,500 (175hp)<br>6cyl - $23,500 (250hp)<p>Accord:<br><B>4cyl - $16,295 (160hp)</B><br>6cyl - $23,950 (240hp)<p>Sonata:<br>4cyl - $17,895 (162hp)<br><B>6cyl - $20,895 (235hp)</B><p>Camry (new model to come next spring so this shouldn't really count)<p>Above are all base starting prices. <p>So, based on the above, a base Accord would have the best price/hp combination.<p>And Sonata has the best V6 combination.<p>Again my failure is in regards to the convertible, technical side. You would have to ask G35audioman as to what he meant by "failure" in his post.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And rhetorical question, if the panoramic sunroof is so easy to do, then why don't others do it? I know the demand suposedly isn't there, but still, why has no one else tried until this point.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And you just answered you own question. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> There is no demand for such option. The thing is, the midsize market is so competitive that there is not really a big opening for price fluctuation, as in consumers are very very much price sensitive. While it's good to have a sunroof, most people actually purchase the base model, without the option of a sunroof, and that goes across the board, and not just for G6s.

sanbar778
08-24-2005, 10:45 AM
Ok well obviously anyone can see the interior is not terrific looking compared to anything else out there. It may be "terrific" in comparison to the Grand Am but then haha... For all the obscure reviews you find that actually like the G6 interior I can find a dozen that say how bad it is. I remember one review for either Motor Trend or Automobile that said how they thought it was stupid for Pontiac to let them test the G6 with the Mazda6, Altima and Accord around for comparison because their interiors were "markedly better" not to mention their handling dynamics. Also, the panoramic sunroof is such a non-issue, why can't Pontiac do dual zone climate control, or high quality plastics or, more importantly, a navigation system? Looks like the other manufacturers have their priorities straight. Nothing can hide that fact that when I drive by my local rental car companies there are MANY G6's over there.

Nodnarb
08-24-2005, 10:55 AM
I know what you guys mean, and if I were spending my money on a family sedan, I personally would go towards an Accord. I was more playing devils advocate since there seemed to be a bunch of unfounded GM bashing going on not only in this thread, but other threads as well. I just wanted to highlight some of the facts that have been glazed over when talking about this and other GM vehicles. <p>The seventies, eighties, and early nineties are over. They are in a new era and are competitive now. For instance, the Corolla is not the top of the compact class, but does that make it a bad car? Of course not. It is a similar situation with much of GM's line up. They aren't class leading, but they are competitive, solid values. Much like where Hyundai was in the late 90's.<p>The prices, when comparing stickers to stickers, others win, but out the door, with rebates and incentives, I think the G6 is a great value. And I have to admit, that is one of my main qualms with General Motors. I wish they would just lower the prices and drop the incentives. I think the initial sticker shock is one of the problems. <p>The JD Power long term reliability surveys have shown the General is making leaps and bounds over the last few years, while Honda and Toyota have shown miniscule drops of a point or so. So reliablity is becoming less of a factor. It is more of a perception issue that they have to overcome. <p>But this is turning more into a Voice your opinion type thread, so if the mods see fit, it would be nice to have one opened in General Automotive discussion and have these last few posts transfered there so discussion may resume on the G6 convertible in this thread. My appologies for my role in getting this thread away from the main topic here.<p>EDIT: I know this is one of those situations where it is best not to feed the troll, but Edmunds is hardly an obscure source. Canadian Driver is the largest, most respected Canadian online automotive publication. And AutoBlog is one of the top blogs on Weblogs Inc in terms of overall unique hits per day, so again, hardly and obscure source. If you could find direct quotes to help your case, that would be great as well. Because if I recall correctly, the magazines actually praised the handling performance of the car and said its European roots really shine through. Plus, I cannot really imagine a magazine calling the top automobile manufacturer in the world "stupid" for providing competitors for comparison.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Nodnarb at 11:04 AM 8/24/2005</i>

knicks125
08-24-2005, 06:27 PM
G6 Sales:<p>July: 10,091<p>June: 11,874<p>May: 9,065<p>April: 11,790<p>March: 9,565<p>February: 7,043<p>January: 4,104<p>So far YTD sales of the G6 has been disapointing, to say the least - 10k/month just doesn't cut it.<p>The YTD total, which is a lot less than the car it replaced - Grand Am, which last year (04) thru. July sold close to 94,000 cars (93,939).<p>The more interesting part: Grand Am is still selling and aren't doing that bad, comparing to the G6 sales <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Nodnarb
08-24-2005, 06:47 PM
But bear in mind that the full line up isn't out yet. Up until mid July all that was out was the 3.5 sedan. Now the 4 cylinder, Coupe and GTP have hit the streets, so sales should start looking better. He wasn't saying they have sold more G6's than Grand Am's yet, he just said that they were on pace to sell more G6 V6 sedans than they had V6 Grand Am sedans. Plus less are going to fleets and they are making more per vehicle on the G6. So the sales aren't that disappointing. Yet. If they stay at this pace with the full line up, then they can worry.

Nodnarb
08-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Uh oh, looks like the top troubles were just bull crap. About what I would expect from the automotive media though. <p><A HREF="http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=54217" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autonews.com/articl...54217</A><p>We were greatly disappointed to see Automotive News' flawed report on the status of the Pontiac G6 convertible ("Top troubles plague G6 convertible," Aug. 15), especially after General Motors and Karmann USA were very open to answering the allegations made by your anonymous sources.<p>The report overlooked key facts provided by GM and the senior Karmann executive responsible for testing the G6 convertible top system.<p>It also contained erroneous allegations never disclosed by Automotive News during our interviews.<p>The G6 convertible top meets and exceeds requirements agreed to by GM and Karmann.<p>We do not disclose cycle time test results for competitive reasons, but our standards are consistent with the industry, and Karmann's testing demonstrates the convertible top will last for the life of the vehicle.<p>Karmann does additional testing on specific components to find the limits of the product. Every component in a vehicle has a failure rate. Karmann's additional testing is intended to create even more robust parts down the road and does not imply or indicate any problems with the G6 convertible top.<p>The speculation that the G6 convertible could be canceled is completely false, and we would have gladly refuted this rumor had Automotive News disclosed it to us before the story was published.<p>We are in the pre-production build process at the Orion Township (Mich.) assembly plant with plans to start selling the vehicle in the first quarter of 2006, a fact we confirmed with the media a year ago.<p>It's troubling that Automotive News sees fit to publish unfounded allegations by anonymous sources even after a company goes out of its way to provide access to senior executives to set the record straight.<p>THOMAS J. KOWALESKI<p>Vice President, Global Communications<br>General Motors, Detroit<p>

Naga Royal Guard
08-24-2005, 07:19 PM
so who do you believe, the media or the automaker

Nodnarb
08-24-2005, 07:57 PM
Given the media's history with GM... well I'll let you decide. Last February. The Cobalt was on the way. And oh crap, there's a recall for a flaw with some headlight assemblies. Lets report it. Oh wait, you mean none were on the lots yet, and they just held back a few to fix it at the factory. Not exactly a recall after all, but we'll still run the story. Or how about the, as they hailed it "Massive Recall" of 35,000 G6's right at launch because the owners manual didn't have anything about the LATCH child restraint system in the back seat. Yeah, front page newsworthy story there. Oh wait, you mean it did make the front page? Well then. And in this case the publication that ran the inital story also ran the letter with no explanation or rebuttal for their original story.

Naga Royal Guard
08-24-2005, 08:57 PM
your right, GM is the innocent victim of the big bad media

knicks125
01-19-2006, 12:47 PM
MSRP to start at $28,490 (base)<p>Official US Pricing: <A HREF="http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewmonthlyreleasedetail.do?domain=3&docid=22155" TARGET="_blank">http://media.gm.com/servlet/Ga...22155</A>

knicks125
01-19-2006, 01:00 PM
While it is the only retractable hardtop (correct if I'm mistaken) under 30k, I still would like to see a lower base sticker price. Afterall, this will go up against the likes of Eclipse, Sebring, Solara, and Mustang, which all carry lower base MSRP.<p>Also, courtesy of C+G forum, this might be a deficiency that may turn customers away from the G6 'vert:<p>1) When the top is down, the trunk is inaccessible<br>2) There is no trunk space even if it was accessible with the top down<p><IMG SRC="http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9972/dsc01695sized9lc.jpg" BORDER="0">

JBlair
01-19-2006, 01:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While it is the only retractable hardtop (correct if I'm mistaken) under 30k, I still would like to see a lower base sticker price. Afterall, this will go up against the likes of Eclipse, Sebring, Solara, and Mustang, which all carry lower base MSRP.<p>Also, courtesy of C+G forum, this might be a deficiency that may turn customers away from the G6 'vert:<p>1) When the top is down, the trunk is inaccessible<br>2) There is no trunk space even if it was accessible with the top down<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Well you also have to consider that this is the least expensive hardtop offered in the US market, which will draw buyers to it even though it costs more.

knicks125
01-19-2006, 01:23 PM
Agreed. I'm more concerned about the inaccessiblity of the trunk, when the top is down. Convertibles are most favorable in warmer climates, and people would be irritated having to operate the top everytime they need to access the trunk (have a friend that lives in sunny CA, and she always has the top down). I see this as a potential problem Pontiac/GM needs to rectify in the near future.

caarmike
01-19-2006, 04:36 PM
SO I guess they got over all the quality issues that seemed to almost kill the launch.

StevenZoz
01-21-2006, 11:02 PM
<A HREF="http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/2006/01/pontiac-g6-convertible.html" TARGET="_blank">http://thehollywoodextra.blogs....html</A><p>pricing announced...according to this... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Posted already on last page.<p>Back to my previous inquiry about the inaccessible trunk and no trunk space when top is down, anyone with insde info?

KebabGud
01-22-2006, 07:08 AM
MY GOD! its IS! the solara....

anonms
01-22-2006, 01:39 PM
Interestingly enough, the G6 shares some resemblances with the Camry-- the sedan with the sedan, the coupe with the Solara.<p><br>But I wonder-- will consumers consider a hardtop convertible a reasonable trade-off for no cargo space when the top is down?