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Player4
12-30-2004, 09:31 AM
<IMG SRC="http://roadandtrack.com/assets/image/12202004181243.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>This ain't your grandpa's Caddy.</B><p><I>GMs keeping the momentum going at its luxury brand with a host of wonderfully powerful and agile new models under the new V-Series banner.<p>First came the CTS-V, a 400-horsepower mid-size sedan developed through a zillion laps at the famed Nrburgring racetrack in Germany that could give the BMW M5 headaches  and for a lot less money.<p>Now theres the new Cadillac STS-V, with a monster 440-horsepower engine tucked into a very capable chassis surrounded by sophisticated styling, technology and an attractive and sumptuous cabin.<p>To get the lowdown on this sensational luxury sports sedan, and for info on future V-Series offerings from Cadillac, pick up the February 2005 issue and read Detroit Editor Matt DeLorenzos cover story.<br></I><p><IMG SRC="http://roadandtrack.com/assets/image/1220200418024706.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A 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Charger
12-30-2004, 09:35 AM
Not too bad. I didnt think they would unveil this yet.

Alx1rl
12-30-2004, 10:14 AM
i love that car.... and my favorite of course is the XLR! That they are currently also making a V model off.

knicks125
12-30-2004, 10:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not too bad. I didnt think they would unveil this yet.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It will be at the NAIAS in 10 days <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Love the V-Series so far...Cadillac should just have V in every car...LOL <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
12-30-2004, 11:22 AM
Why is this in here and not the new car area?

Charger
12-30-2004, 11:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why is this in here and not the new car area?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I moved it

Naga Royal Guard
12-30-2004, 11:44 AM
that mesh is pretty expansive, i like the egg-crate grill much better

Charger
12-30-2004, 11:46 AM
I wish they would have done something different with the fogs. But I really like the hood bulge.

Player4
12-30-2004, 12:51 PM
The reason for that wsa because since it was not official and there was no press release i didnt post it there. Mainly because i saw the Dodge Charger thread that Charger locked and moved because there were only pics in the thread, it wasnt official and there was no press release.<p>

Charger
12-30-2004, 02:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>J.B.</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The reason for that wsa because since it was not official and there was no press release i didnt post it there. Mainly because i saw the Dodge Charger thread that Charger locked and moved because there were only pics in the thread, it wasnt official and there was no press release.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Dont worry. Its fine in here. I only locked the Charger thread because they were scans from a magazine while the STS-V were regular pics. It's no big deal <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-30-2004, 06:15 PM
Way to go Cadillac! They continually are surprising me. 440 horses mated to a 6-speed automatic=awesome performance.

Top Secret
12-30-2004, 06:17 PM
Good stuff...I'm likin Cadillac more and more everyday. Personally I suspected it'd be more flashy, but alas, they are going the 300C SRT-8's with restrained stylin, which is not a bad thing in itself.

Player4
12-30-2004, 06:37 PM
Alright, kool ma8!! <p>Peace.<p><br>I really like this new STS-V alot but i expected it to have more power (horses) i mean the CTS-V is suppose to compete with the E55 AMG, S-Type R, and M5. So what is the STS-V competing against? Because i rememebr that when the CTS-V came out it was being compared with E55 S-Type R, and M5 and not M3 or C55. <p><br>Well anyways i liek this alot!! And i see that they are catching up with Germans by the using of the Dark Wood on the sporty models in this case the STS-V. I like that we need to see performance numbers now and pricing!!<br>

kevinb120
01-02-2005, 09:00 PM
I am by no means a fan of GM products, but Cadillac has got it goin' on! The bling bling grille mesh and the fogs are a little off the mark, but not bad enough to not like it. Pretty schweet.

Banker
01-03-2005, 01:06 PM
I love it. Give me this over a BMW any day.

A8inPA
01-03-2005, 03:35 PM
two <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> s up!<br>

syclone
01-03-2005, 04:31 PM
not a fan of the mesh grille either. other than that though, i really really like it. to me it just looks great with the sharp curves of the cts tones down a touch and a bit of muscle added in. and its going to be really fast too. i want one.

Banker
01-04-2005, 06:54 AM
Think back to the previous generation STS... who would have ever dreamed this would be here. This is proof that GM is taking things seriously. I love it that it has a six speed automatic. This is a sign of things to come!!

velsatis
01-04-2005, 07:28 AM
Good work but it's just a cadillac, I would still rather go for a E55 AMG, M5, S6, SRT-8 300C. I was just curious on the final result <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick
01-04-2005, 01:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>velsatis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good work but it's just a cadillac, I would still rather go for a E55 AMG, M5, S6, SRT-8 300C. I was just curious on the final result <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>what the hell is that supposed to mean? I could say the same thing... The E55 is just a mercedes, the M5 is just a BMW, the S6 is just an audi, the srt-8 is just a chrysler... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-04-2005, 09:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>what the hell is that supposed to mean? I could say the same thing... The E55 is just a mercedes, the M5 is just a BMW, the S6 is just an audi, the srt-8 is just a chrysler... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Take a chill man...you are getting too worked up...those comments were purely personal opinions, so don't take them too personal. Relax <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Roadster44
01-06-2005, 11:46 AM
Well just from standpoint of quality of a vehicle, I don't see logic in picking 300C with its cheapo interior, boat like handling over a Caddy. Even the SRT models don't get any positive feedback from professional european automotive media, domestic as well. V-Models however are loved across the globe, that ought to say something.

Soul Man
01-06-2005, 01:28 PM
@ roadster: well v series models maybe loved across the globe, srt models will be loved by wallets across the globe<p>stsv though does look to be quite a conbtender though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> and i dont know exactly why but this icon kicks a$$

Roadster44
01-06-2005, 11:01 PM
Once they'll fix interiors and cheapness in next CTS and SRX then there is no stopping Caddy. Oh and they need to enter F1 like tommorow!

CPWerks
01-06-2005, 11:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Once they'll fix interiors and cheapness in next CTS and SRX then there is no stopping Caddy. Oh and they need to enter F1 like tommorow!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Cheapness? Why do you say that?

Santeno
01-07-2005, 10:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CPWerks</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cheapness? Why do you say that?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Because even though their material are much nicer and largely in line with modern luxury brand materials, their assembly (doors and dashboard) is largely made up of presure clips, not screws and bolts. Clips have a tendency to loosen over time and rarely fit as well as originally fitted, if you have to remove them to access the interior of the units that use them.<p>The overall effect looks nice, but the unseen parts are not quite on-parr with the competition, which does not bode well for the long term reliability and costumer experience with the vehicles.

Nick
01-07-2005, 03:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take a chill man...you are getting too worked up...those comments were purely personal opinions, so don't take them too personal. Relax <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>heh...sorry about that...didnt mean to come off like an a**hole, but i guess lately I have been a little on edge (due to personal reasons)... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

rman5001
01-08-2005, 09:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Once they'll fix interiors and cheapness in next CTS and SRX then there is no stopping Caddy. Oh and they need to enter F1 like tommorow!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The last thing they need to do is enter F1. If they have an urge to spend hundreds of millions, invest it in the product.

spwolf
01-08-2005, 06:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>heh...sorry about that...didnt mean to come off like an a**hole, but i guess lately I have been a little on edge (due to personal reasons)... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>there is no need to apologize, comment was utterly stupid. "it is a good car but aint no benz" is ridicilous statement that belongs to snobs and not car fanatics.<p>Bad thing about STS is its interior - notice how the pics only show small highlights of interior, whell the whole deal looks pretty crappy :-). And Santeno, Lexus uses clips, doesnt it and they hold up just fine according to everyone. I am sure there are some other differences though :-).

rman5001
01-08-2005, 09:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Because even though their material are much nicer and largely in line with modern luxury brand materials, their assembly (doors and dashboard) is largely made up of presure clips, not screws and bolts. Clips have a tendency to loosen over time and rarely fit as well as originally fitted, if you have to remove them to access the interior of the units that use them.<p>The overall effect looks nice, but the unseen parts are not quite on-parr with the competition, which does not bode well for the long term reliability and costumer experience with the vehicles.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Most companies that use clips design the parts so that the clips can be removed and replaced when the part is removed and reinstalled.

Oslo
01-11-2005, 01:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love it. Give me this over a BMW any day.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I totally agree.... BMW's do nothing for me.

Banker
01-11-2005, 03:25 PM
The STS-V interior is completely covered in Leather... even the dashboard. Cadillac is on the way up.<p>This is the best sedan the United States has produced in many many years.<p>If I had $70K I would order one today.

knicks125
01-11-2005, 03:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I had $70K I would order one today.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'd take the XLR <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick
01-11-2005, 06:35 PM
why take the xlr when you can hold off for a little while and wait for the xlr-v <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-11-2005, 10:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why take the xlr when you can hold off for a little while and wait for the xlr-v <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'd like one but i figure xlr-v is going to cost a lot more than 70k <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The starting point is that if I have that much money, let alone 70k <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Banker
01-12-2005, 07:31 AM
Whie we are dreaming, give me a CTS-V for my commute to work, a STS-V for the family car and an XLR-V for those weekend drives into the hill country.

Nick
01-12-2005, 01:45 PM
and dont forget the Escalade-V-series for those soccer practices <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-30-2005, 08:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why take the xlr when you can hold off for a little while and wait for the xlr-v <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>that going to be S/C like the STS-V as well?

KebabGud
01-31-2005, 06:29 PM
i feel like im repeting my self ... but<br>the whole V thing is stolen from Toyota ..<br>they used to call there "topp models" V thingis :P<br>eks: Aristo V300, Aristo V (bothe had the 3liter inline 6 with Twinturbos)<br>Chaser/MarkII Tourer V, MarkII iR-V (2,5liter inline6 twinturbo)<br>

noble_M12
01-31-2005, 07:34 PM
^ Caddy had a V series car on the 30's your point is? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick
02-01-2005, 12:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that going to be S/C like the STS-V as well?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>yea, the xlr-V will be supercharged as well I believe, although it would be interesting to see the LS7 underneath the hood also...