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Naga Royal Guard
11-05-2004, 09:19 PM
posted by am2<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/news/910/norm_1_orig.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><br>http://www.autoindex.org/images/news/910/norm_3_orig.jpg<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/news/910/norm_2_orig.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GTI Engine -To power the Golf GTI, Volkswagen is using a newly developed 2.0 litre FSI turbo engine. The 147 kW / 200 PS direct injection petrol unit with a high-compression ratio of 10.5:1 makes an ideal GTI engine thanks to its dynamic torque curve (280 Nm between 1 800 und 5 000 rpm). With a standard six-speed gearbox, the four cylinders accelerate the Golf GTI to 100 km/h (62 mph) in just 7.2 seconds. The GTI goes from 60 km/h (37 mph) to 100 km/h in 5th gear in only 7.5 seconds and reaches its maximum at 235 km/h (146 mph). The Euro 4 engine has an average fuel consumption of a frugal 8.0 litres per 100 kilometres. The extremely quick dual clutch gearbox (DSG) for uninterrupted power in gear changes is available as an option. It enables the Golf GTI to charge to 100 km/h in under 7 seconds (6.9).<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>whole article: <A HREF="http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=910" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=910</A><p><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=new&num=1092933764&action=display&start=15" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....rt=15</A>

PBH
12-20-2004, 06:26 PM
This is about the only car (not van) :P that looks good in white, with that big striking black grill... if you read the reviews its a great drivers car too... I shall reserve my judgement till I test it out hehe :P

knihc2008
12-20-2004, 07:34 PM
i agree, looks brilliant in white! i like this a lot; the black grille looks mean. can't wait to test one out; i expect a super-nimble, fast car!

jro4566
12-20-2004, 07:43 PM
I third that! White does look great on the new Golf!

kcht
12-21-2004, 01:31 PM
I do think that it is a really good looking car. I used to own a mk2 gti and i loved it! (had to sell it because i'm head of a small family now). But the GTI will be offered even as a 5 door. I cant wait to put my hands on one of those!!! Finally a young father's dream come true! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
12-21-2004, 10:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kcht</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do think that it is a really good looking car. I used to own a mk2 gti and i loved it! (had to sell it because i'm head of a small family now). But the GTI will be offered even as a 5 door. I cant wait to put my hands on one of those!!! Finally a young father's dream come true! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>very true. id still take a long look at an wrx wagon or forester xt before jumping for this new gti. with the prices of the base golf right now, its looking like those might be better buys even if they are older platforms.

Hornbag
12-22-2004, 04:52 PM
Looks very nice. The grille is smashing! Just to clear something up-<br>Is the black grille used for sport varients, and the chrome grille for luxury etc?

SV
12-22-2004, 10:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks very nice. The grille is smashing! Just to clear something up-<br>Is the black grille used for sport varients, and the chrome grille for luxury etc?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it looks like it; chrome for mainstream models (jetta, passat); black for sporty ones

spikes111
01-27-2006, 07:22 AM
Looks like the new Golf GTI is already hitting US showrooms <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65" TARGET="_blank">http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65</A><p>Huge wallpapers<p><A HREF="http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48" TARGET="_blank">http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48</A><p><br>According to the reviews I've read this GTI is a return to the original GTI and not underperforming like the previous generation GTI. Hopefully they're all right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>2.0L turbo engnie with plenty of upside based on just a chip upgrade.

Dodger
01-27-2006, 09:57 AM
A local dealer has a red one on the lot. Looks pretty good. When do we get the regular Golf?

nismo
01-27-2006, 11:13 AM
Yeah, I saw a truck load of them on the highway yesterday.<p>As for the Golf, a friend of mine at a dealer said this fall/late summer... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
01-27-2006, 12:05 PM
I watched some come through port last week, along with some new beetles. not a very good look though

against the wall
01-27-2006, 04:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dodger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A local dealer has a red one on the lot. Looks pretty good. When do we get the regular Golf?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>seems like we never will. lol. its been around so long in europe its almost time for a midlife freshening.

piokor
01-27-2006, 06:23 PM
According the VW Vortex, the 5-Door GTI is coming to the US in June.<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/616/DB2004AU01208_medium.jpg" BORDER="0">

against the wall
01-27-2006, 07:47 PM
when are we gettin the r32? they only sold like 4 of the mk4 r32.

spikes111
01-27-2006, 08:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According the VW Vortex, the 5-Door GTI is coming to the US in June.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds right and I can't wait to see tuners get a hold of the 5 door. Check out this black 5 door!<p><A HREF="http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showpost.php?p=97&postcount=4" TARGET="_blank">http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/...unt=4</A><p>5 door just seems more balanced proportionally than the 3 door.

knicks125
01-27-2006, 10:16 PM
This looks fun <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2415311" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarlounge.net...15311</A>

phaeton
01-27-2006, 11:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This looks fun <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2415311" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarlounge.net...15311</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
01-28-2006, 05:59 AM
The 3-door looks much better I recon. More origional, I dunno why...

Superfresa
01-28-2006, 06:07 AM
5 door, yes! Quality, style, agility, sportiness and practicality in one car.<p>This car is what makes me go back to love volkswagens ( I didnt like them very much after some time because of expensiveness and so on but this - OMG!)

mzoltarp
01-28-2006, 09:21 AM
Unfortunately by the time you load on all the desirable options the price is outrageous. As for quality has anyone else noticed how many of the magazines mention how the VW they test have all kinds of rattles?

Nodnarb
01-28-2006, 09:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when are we gettin the r32? they only sold like 4 of the mk4 r32.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you kidding me? They sold out of those things. They only sent a limited ammount over here in the first place. I think it was 5000. Either way, they are highly sought after, with used ones going for the original sticker price or sometimes higher. Either way, the R36 has had several dates thrown out. The earliest being June '06 and the latest being Spring '07.

against the wall
01-28-2006, 03:59 PM
o my bad. i guess im just going by cuz i have never seen one in my area. or out west.

DoMiNo
01-28-2006, 04:10 PM
Several of these on Ebay already, none seem to have a DSG; and driving to the gym today I passed the inventory lot of the VW dealer in downtown L.A.... there was two GTI's that I could see, still in plastic. I wanna go drive one of these babies!!!

mzoltarp
01-28-2006, 05:17 PM
I'd rather have a VR6 than a turbo.

JBlair
01-28-2006, 05:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd rather have a VR6 than a turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah but thats not in keeping with what a GTi should be. A GTi needs to be fun and fling-able, with a fun-to-drive factor built in. If you add a VR6 over those front wheels, you lose a lot of that character. (witness reviews of the R32).

DoMiNo
01-28-2006, 05:48 PM
Is there a significant difference in performance or interior space between the GLI and the GTI?

Hornbag
01-28-2006, 08:18 PM
The Jetta is wider and longer, so I supose the GLi would be bigger. But most of that lenth goes to it's massive rump...

DSC-OFF
01-28-2006, 09:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/616/DB2004AU01208_medium.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe thats BTCC driver Jason Plato behind the wheel<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This looks fun <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2415311" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarlounge.net...15311</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Bored, made this, i like it though not enough to use it..up for grabs<p><IMG SRC="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/ef0ne2/fjr49.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Several of these on Ebay already, none seem to have a DSG..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why would you want DSG? Yes its faster than the standard 6-speed GTIs but would you say its more fun?<br> <br>

DoMiNo
01-29-2006, 12:38 AM
I confess I haven't personally driven the DSG transmission, but the idea of the perfect transmission really entices me. I'd have to decide for myself after comparing the two, but I hear great things. I think it's hard for enthusiasts to give up the "familiar" and embrace technology that's clearly more efficient... the ideal mix of practicality and fun. Besides mere curiosity, though, I like the idea of having an autobox when I'm stuck in L.A. traffic, but manual control when I get out of town into the twisties... you have to admit it's almost having your cake and eating it too...<p>And yes, faster is good.

mzoltarp
01-29-2006, 06:56 AM
I'd rather have the torque of the VR6 and lose some of the so-called "balance" of the turbo. The VW turbo is nice but it still has to spool up whereas the VR6 is wham-bam torque nearly from idle on. The only reason VW is promoting the "balance" of the turbo is because the VR6 would make the price skyrocket. I'm a long time GTi fan both 4cyl and VR6 and with a few mods the VR6 handles just fine.

Superfresa
01-29-2006, 07:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd rather have the torque of the VR6 and lose some of the so-called "balance" of the turbo. The VW turbo is nice but it still has to spool up whereas the VR6 is wham-bam torque nearly from idle on. The only reason VW is promoting the "balance" of the turbo is because the VR6 would make the price skyrocket. I'm a long time GTi fan both 4cyl and VR6 and with a few mods the VR6 handles just fine.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Then again you live in the USA and things are a bit different up there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pirate2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>For us that really appreciate a car that can take on narrow winding roads with ease, balance is really important.

Nodnarb
01-29-2006, 09:55 AM
A couple of things. The turbo doesn't need much time to spool up here at all. The 2.0T makes 207 lb/ft at 1800 RPM, while the previous VR6 made 195 at 3200. So turbo lag is not a factor here. The main reason that VW canceled the VR6 for the GTI is because enthusiasts complained of what it did to the handling characteristics of the car because of how nose heavy it was. Also, they wanted to go back to their roots of the original GTI/GLI spirit, neither of which had 6-cylinder engines. That is why the R32/36 has no GTI badging at all and is considered a separate variant of the Golf. They felt is was the propper way to give people a sporty Golf with a 6-cylinder engine.<p>Second, the DSG is one of those don't knock it til you try it things. There are plenty of three pedal die hards on Vortex who were so blown away by the DSG that that is what they ended up getting on their GLI's. Plus it has a true manual mode that lets you hold gear as long as you like.

CosworthKid
01-29-2006, 11:55 AM
Guys,i dont want to sound like an ass but i dont think its right to name this thread as "2006/2007 VW Golf GTi" for one simple reason: the GTi might be a 2006-07 model in NA, but its been out since last year in Europe and most countries. So since this is exactly the same car with no changes then why do u need a seperate thread?This is very confusing to some ppl, and when others look at the date they think its a facelift or update of the GTi. Maybe just specify that its the NA model, if there are any changes at all visualy or spec wise etc. Like i said, i dont want to sound like an ass, i hope u understand what i mean guys.

DoMiNo
01-29-2006, 01:59 PM
...Well we make threads like this all the time. And notice that this thread was actually started a LONG time ago (11/5/2004). Perhaps adding "USDM" to the title would clarify...but really, this shouldn't be a big deal. And who's to say there aren't slight changes between them anyway?

JBlair
01-29-2006, 02:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Guys,i dont want to sound like an ass but i dont think its right to name this thread as "2006/2007 VW Golf GTi" for one simple reason: the GTi might be a 2006-07 model in NA, but its been out since last year in Europe and most countries. So since this is exactly the same car with no changes then why do u need a seperate thread?This is very confusing to some ppl, and when others look at the date they think its a facelift or update of the GTi. Maybe just specify that its the NA model, if there are any changes at all visualy or spec wise etc. Like i said, i dont want to sound like an ass, i hope u understand what i mean guys.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It has some differences. The entire suspension is different. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Nodnarb
01-29-2006, 03:17 PM
Not so, actually.<p><A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_1622.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com/artman...shtml</A><p>It has different springs giving it a higher ride height for better side impact ratings. Either way, just about anything important that you might want to know about the USDM GTI is in that article.

JBlair
01-29-2006, 03:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not so, actually.<p><A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_1622.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com/artman...shtml</A><p>It has different springs giving it a higher ride height for better side impact ratings. Either way, just about anything important that you might want to know about the USDM GTI is in that article.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ohh, excuse me, let me rephrase. The entire suspension <I>tuning</I> is completely different than the Euro version. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
01-30-2006, 06:33 AM
Ive driven the turbo in the GLI. It still had lag. I have driven a DSG tranny. A standard stick is better.

the cheddar
01-31-2006, 11:19 PM
Can't say I agree on either account. The GLi I drove had the barest hint of lag -- Very quick to spool up and totally usable for everyday driving in the city. Great engine. I also thought the DSG (in a TT) was the absolute best of these that I've tested (M3, MR2, ZR4). Quick, smooth, effortless up-and-down-shifts. I'd take one over the manual in a second.<p>Someone on another board said they're discounting GTI's already -- Can't speak for the truth of that myself. But I haven't seen any advertising and VW's rep is trashed for quality so it could very well be...

DoMiNo
01-31-2006, 11:55 PM
Well according to one Ebay auction, the MSRP for one *non-DSG* GTI with the Package 2 is $26,700 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I <I>hope</I> they discount them!<p><A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-NEW-Volkswagen-GTI-Candy-White-Full-Warranty_W0QQitemZ4608314923QQcategoryZ6060QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem" TARGET="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem</A><p>

Nodnarb
02-01-2006, 06:39 AM
That's about the going rate for a Package 2 with 18" rims right now. Given P2 is a $2900 option and the 18's are $663. Plus factor in the fact that they are just arriving on dealer lots and are still in relatively high demand. Also, that $26,700 is MSRP. You almost never will pay that. Based on owner responses at Vortex, the out the door price on one right now is about $1000 below sticker.

bison
02-01-2006, 10:02 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the cheddar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The GLi I drove had the barest hint of lag -- Very quick to spool up and totally usable for everyday driving in the city. Great engine.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I drove a Passat 2.0T and thought the same thing. It has the low-end torque of a V6 without the extra weight over the front wheels. Very nice.

the cheddar
02-01-2006, 10:05 AM
A GRAND under sticker at the launch?! Man, that's not good. I mean, great for us consumers but that's a bad sign for VW. The Civic Si's are still going ABOVE sticker, when you can find them (especially with Navi). That'll come down soon but it shows the difference in launches.<p>Someone should tell VW's marketing people to wake up -- I just went to the website and they still had LAST year's GTI on there. Not a peep about the new products at all. Amazing...<p>

spikes111
02-18-2006, 12:10 PM
If anyone's looking for videos of the GTI, found this place - <A HREF="http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10" TARGET="_blank">http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10</A>

piokor
02-18-2006, 06:03 PM
I just came back from the Chicago Auto Show and I spent a good ten minutes in/near the GTIs. The interior is perfect, from the steering wheel to the perfect bucket seats. There is also a lot of room in the rear. I think I'm gonna go to my local dealer this week and go for a test drive.<p>Although, I don't think I'll be getting the the 3-Door, I'll probably wait until July for the 5-door. I this the greenhouse looks a lot better than the 3-door. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

haji
04-03-2009, 02:42 AM
2009 GTI V50 (Singapore)
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/04/03_vw_gti_v50.jpg
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/02/singapore-gets-special-volkswagen-gti-v50/

mikeeb777
04-03-2009, 06:47 AM
i saw one (mk VI) at the autoshow the other day and i liked it..... its too bad that one was the euro model which has features that we won't get