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Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 02:05 PM
PRODUCTION<p><IMG SRC="http://nissannews.com/multimedia/concept2005/m45_concept/800px/01_2006_m.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://nissannews.com/multimedia/concept2005/m45_concept/800px/03_2006_m.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Concept : <p><br><IMG SRC="http://www.infinitinews.com/multimedia/concept2005/m45_concept/800px/08_m45_concept.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.infinitinews.com/multimedia/concept2005/m45_concept/800px/12_m45_concept.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>-chickpig CSS:PB<p>April 06, 2004 08:01 AM US Eastern Timezone <p>Infiniti M45 Concept Offers Sensuous Styling, Enriching Interior and Invigorating Performance <p>New York International Auto Show <p><br>The Infiniti M45 Concept vehicle, which makes its debut at the 2004 New York International Auto Show on Thursday, April 8, gives a look at the new M. <p>NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 6, 2004--The Infiniti M45 Concept, which made its world debut at the New York International Auto Show, offers a unique, advanced look into the future design and technology direction of Infiniti. The M45 Concept captures the essence of both the current M45 performance sport sedan and the award-winning Infiniti G35 -- and takes both to a new level of engaging luxury and performance. <p><br>"The M45 Concept is an expression of power, refinement, technology and style -- all the things that make Infiniti owners' hearts pound," said Mark Igo, vice president and general manager, Infiniti Division. "We have captured the soul of the Infiniti brand, expressing it in unique, forward thinking ways in the M45 Concept -- most of which will appear in the new 2006 M45, which is scheduled to arrive in spring 2005." <p>An Enhanced FM Platform <p>The M45 Concept features a powerful 340-horsepower 4.5-liter V8, taken from the flagship Infiniti Q45, along with a new generation of the FM (Front Mid-ship) platform currently used on the G35 sedan, G35 coupe and FX premium crossover SUV. Approximately 60 percent of the platform design and components have been enhanced for use with the M45 Concept. <p>The new, redefined platform is designed to accommodate the M45 Concept's 4.5-liter V8 engine or a 3.5-liter V6, continuing to position the engine behind the front axle. As in current applications, this positioning results in an optimized front-to-rear weight balance, which factors in weight transfer during key handling maneuvers. Also like the production FM platform, the M45 Concept's large diameter wheels and tires are positioned out near the corners of the vehicle, providing an extra measure of handling stability and driving excitement. The M45 Concept's suspension is an independent double-wishbone design in front and multi-link independent in the rear. <p>Sensuous Exterior Design <p>From a design standpoint, the M45 Concept optimizes both luxury and sport styling to create a dynamic visual sensation. The expressive, jewel-like grille and crystal-look headlight clusters offer a luxurious appeal, while large 19-inch wheels and high performance tires, a stable posture with wide tread, and short overhangs contribute to the sportiness of the design. <p>The M45 Concept also offers a low, aggressive hoodline, which flows into the anchored shoulders and contributes to the sporty, powerful silhouette. The roofline is fluid, while the hood and front fenders are sculpted to provide a solid, muscular look. In the rear, L-shaped LED taillights and quad-tipped tailpipes finish out the exterior design. <p>The M45 Concept features a long wheelbase and short overhangs -- providing a roomy interior and highly manageable exterior dimensions. A wide front and rear track adds to the M45 Concept's handling stability, while further enhancing interior and trunk volume. The M45 Concept also features lightweight body components, including aluminum-alloy inner and outer door panels, hood and decklid panels, while its aerodynamic design provides zero front lift. <p>Confident, Explosive Performance and a New Active Rear Control System <p>At the heart of the M45 Concept is the high-performance power of an advanced 4.5-liter, 340-horsepower DOHC V8, mated to a 5-speed automatic transmission with a short-throw performance shifter with manual shift mode. The M45 Concept's advanced braking system is designed to offer a confidence-inspiring brake pedal feel and enhanced pedal response, while the steering system is designed to enhance the engaging driving experience through a high-flow hydraulic boost system and micro-polished steering gear and robust rack mounting. The M45 Concept also features Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC). <p>The handling and stability of the Infiniti M45 Concept is greatly enhanced by a new active rear control system. Unlike passive rear steering systems, this design features motor-driver rear-wheel control. This system helps improve the M45's handling performance by adjusting the geometry of the rear suspension according to steering input and vehicle speed. <p>The system's electronic control unit calculates the desired vehicle dynamics from a series of sensors, including vehicle speed and steering angle, and directs the system actuator to change rear geometry by moving both rear suspension lower links. The result is sports car-like agility, combined with luxury sedan stability. <p>A Highly Personalized, Enriching Interior Atmosphere <p>Like the M45 Concept's performance, its interior design engages the senses in new and invigorating ways. It combines a driver-oriented kazzoopit with a graceful, Infiniti level of luxury and design detail. <p>"The interior of the M45 Concept provides a 'hand in-glove fit.' It is the most indulgent, high-quality design that Infiniti has ever offered -- one that indicates a new wave of Infiniti interior design," said Igo. "It reflects a more passionate interior direction, which is already starting to appear in production Infiniti vehicles." <p>The modern and intuitive interior layout focuses on ease-of-use and a purposeful simplicity. Interior features include leather-appointed climate controlled seats, an advanced "Solar Eclipse" instrument lighting system, power reclining rear seats and an advanced surround audio system with 14-speaker 5.1-channel decoding with two personal speakers mounted in each front seat. <p>"This is, without a doubt, the finest audio system ever created for an Infiniti vehicle, with sound performance every bit the equal of the car's driving performance," said Igo. <p>The interior also offers an array of driver and passenger-oriented technology features, many of which are found in today's Infiniti production vehicles, including the Infiniti Intelligent Key system with push button start. This system eliminates the need to take the key fob out of your pocket when locking, unlocking and starting the engine. Other features include an Infiniti Navigation System with a new user interface featuring voice-activated destination entry, HVAC/audio and Bluetooth wireless connectivity, RearView monitor and Intelligent Cruise Control. <p>High Tech Safety Systems with New Lane Departure System <p>The M45 Concept also showcases the latest in Infiniti safety technology, including a new Lane Departure Warning (LDW) system. The system recognizes lane markings and calculates the lateral distance between the vehicle and the lane marking, along with vehicle speed relative to the marking, and generates an audible signal to warn the driver of a pending, unintended lane departure. Engagement of the turn signals turns off the system and it also includes a driver cancel switch. <p>"Over 58 percent of fatal accidents in the United States are caused by lane departures, including single vehicle and head-on accidents," said Igo. "The LDW system is an important advancement in vehicle safety technology." <p>Other safety features include an Advanced Air Bag System (AABS) with dual-stage front supplemental air bags and roof-mounted side-impact curtain air bags, brake-operated pre-crash front seat belts and slide away brake pedal. <p>The Evolution of Luxury <p>"Luxury has evolved from what was once traditional, status-oriented luxury, to what has come to be a more meaningful, personal approach to luxury. The M45 Concept is yet another example of Infiniti's leadership in providing luxury that appeals to both the soul and intelligence of the driver," said Igo. "As we transition the M45 from concept car into our 2006 production vehicle, we'll look at a range of models that will satisfy individual needs and preferences -- V8 or V6, all-wheel or rear-wheel drive, sports or luxury."<p>Body<br> Sporty, luxurious design <br> Expressive, jewel-like grille and crystal-look headlight cluster<br> Stable posture with long wheelbase (114.2 inches), wide tread and short overhangs <br> Low, aggressive hoodline and anchored shoulders provides a sporty, powerful silhouette<br> All-steel unibody with very high level of torsional rigidity<p><br>Engine and Driveline<br> 32-valve 4.5-liter DOHC V8 producing 340 horsepower <br> Modular cylinder head design, lightweight pistons, titanium valves, continuously variable valve timing, variable length induction system<br> 5-speed electronically controlled automatic transmission with manual shift mode<br> Enhanced, next generation FM (Front Mid-ship) platform <p>Suspension, Steering and Braking<br> Double-wishbone independent front suspension<br> Multi-link independent rear suspension with active rear control<br> Enhanced braking system with 4-wheel disc brakes, Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Brake Assist (BA), Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD)<br> Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) <br> Enhanced power-assisted steering system with sport ratio<br> 19-inch wheels and high-performance tires<p>

Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 02:06 PM
<br>Interior Features<br> Inviting interior feel with use of etched aluminum and leather appointments<br> Large cabin space, able to fit five adult passengers comfortably <br> Leather-appointed, climate controlled seats<br> Contemporary instrument panel<br> Advanced Solar Eclipse instrument lighting system<br> Surround audio system with 14 speakers, 5.1-channel decoding with two personal speakers mounted in each front seat<br> Infiniti Intelligent Key system and push-button start system<br> Infiniti Navigation System with a new user interface with voice-activated destination entry<br> Bluetooth wireless connectivity<br> RearView monitor with a wide lens view <br> Intelligent Cruise Control<p>Safety and Security<br> Lane Departure Warning (LDW) system with cancel switch, which alerts driver of unintended lane departure<br> Zone Body platform design, with front and rear crumple zones <br> Advanced Air Bag System (AABS) with dual-stage front supplemental air bags and roof-mounted side-impact curtain air bags<br> Brake-operated pre-crash front seat belts <br>

Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 02:07 PM
<IMG SRC="http://nghouse.com/DSC_0010.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://nghouse.com/DSC_0011.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://nghouse.com/DSC_0012.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><IMG SRC="http://nghouse.com/m45nav.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>onpaws - CDD:PB

Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 02:09 PM
<br><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper03.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper06.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper09.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper10.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper11.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.infiniti.com/m/cma/v/m45/imgs/m_prod_wallpaper12.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Now I'm convinced. The new M's interior is the one to beat now. <IMG SRC="http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/worship.gif" BORDER="0">

The Water Is Poison
12-20-2004, 07:35 PM
Is the M35 a new thing?

knihc2008
12-20-2004, 07:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Now I'm convinced. The new M's interior is the one to beat now. <IMG SRC="http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/worship.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>hear hear, naga, though that new idrive-ish system they've got on there doesn't look very promising. i'll wait to see how intuitive that thing is to give the interior final judgement.<p>looks great from here.

jro4566
12-20-2004, 07:41 PM
Yes, it's a new thing...sort of. The original M35 was a coupe in the 1990s.<p>As for the "iDrive" of this car, it doesn't look very hard in pictures. It's more Audi MMI than iDrive, and they simplified this version from the Q45.

SV
12-20-2004, 09:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>hear hear, naga, though that new idrive-ish system they've got on there doesn't look very promising. i'll wait to see how intuitive that thing is to give the interior final judgement.<p>looks great from here.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i've never seen that iDrive-type knob on there before...wow...hopefully it'll be more intuitive than idrive

nismospeed
12-20-2004, 09:15 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, it's a new thing...sort of. The original M35 was a coupe in the 1990s.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, it was the M30. It was also offered as a convertible and was pretty much all show and no go. It looked very sharp in black.

Chickpig
12-20-2004, 09:58 PM
yeah this infiniti has one of the best interiors i've seen. The amount of wood, leather, metal and the combination of colours are just great!

LEXUS FAN!
12-20-2004, 11:00 PM
this car bothers me...i think it is the taillamps

Flagship
12-21-2004, 03:35 PM
M45= <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>What bothers me is that the M45 will compete with the Q45 with its $50,000 price and its features.

nstreet16
12-27-2004, 10:15 AM
god this car reaks buy me! buy me! Its actualli nice...except for the huge lights in the rear everything is simply refined. but the price is sucky. So much!

jro4566
12-27-2004, 10:49 AM
I'm betting that with rear active steer and the sport package, it will be the best-handling car in its class.

spwolf
12-27-2004, 01:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nstreet16</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">god this car reaks buy me! buy me! Its actualli nice...except for the huge lights in the rear everything is simply refined. but the price is sucky. So much!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yep, 43k for base V6 is a bit too much... All depends on what their sales targets are... Back looks way too ugly compared to rest of the car which looks ok... Interior looks good if not a bit weird - why do they have to make it weird? Too many buttons too...

Naga Royal Guard
12-27-2004, 01:40 PM
definately alot of the qualities that make the G35 Coupe a Very desirable car, opposed to the conservative character of the sedan

Alx1rl
12-27-2004, 03:32 PM
I love this car.... it is extremely intense! Very innovative, and stylish. One of my fav's.

Vatican
12-27-2004, 10:50 PM
$43K is not bad at all for the V6 ... the extra cost over the price of the G35 is worth it ... just imagine for an example what Porsche charges for such an upgrade on their lineup ($30k?)

Cozz
12-27-2004, 11:07 PM
Very nice indeed from Infinity... it's about time.<p>The only thing that I don't other than the rear lights is the price tag and no AWD with the V8. I'm very impressed over-all. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

ricerammer
12-28-2004, 01:19 AM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>w00t! This car is so sexy. OMG. It is noew one of my fave cars of 2005!

kevinb120
01-02-2005, 09:24 PM
For years infinity was the 'oddball' of the big 3 Japanese luxo lines. They have surely come of age in the past couple years. What a fantastic car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

hokman
01-04-2005, 04:29 AM
Who makes the best V6 10 times straight?<br>Who makes a quieter V8 than LS430's?<br>Who ruled the race tracks around the world for the past 15 years?<br>Nissan.

taskbearer
01-04-2005, 04:36 AM
But the infinty 4.5 V8 is said to have a weak torque delivery, probably the weakest of any V8 available. just something you needed to know. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
01-04-2005, 06:08 AM
excuse me, but what race tracks around the world?<br>Out of all major Japanese brands, Nissan has had the least world sports sucesses...

jro4566
01-04-2005, 12:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>taskbearer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But the infinty 4.5 V8 is said to have a weak torque delivery, probably the weakest of any V8 available. just something you needed to know. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>On the contrary, the VK-Series 4.5L V8 has a strong torque feel. C&D has a road test in their latest issue and one of the PROS of the vehicle is the strong torque.<p>Northstar 4.6L V8<br>315lb/ft@4400rpm<p>VK-Series 4.5L V8<br>333lb/ft@4000rpm

JBlair
01-04-2005, 01:05 PM
Doesn't the M45 have 345 pound-feet of torque?<br>

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 01:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't the M45 have 345 pound-feet of torque?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>no it does not

neemer5
01-04-2005, 03:22 PM
It has 333 lb/ft torque. Just for reference, the '04 GS430 has 325, the '05 Audi 4.2 has 317 (both at 3500 rpms), the E500's has 339. The Given the RPM's and the engine sizes, they're all pretty on par.

VarianceJ30
01-04-2005, 06:02 PM
Just got my February edition of Motor Trend in which they reviewed the M45 Sport. <p>Specs:<p>HP (not finalized): 335<br>Torque: 340<br>Price (estimate): $48,900<br>0-60 (MT estimate): 6.1 sec<p>What's hot:<p>-Superb powertrain <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>-Dizzying array of audio/tech/entertainment offerings <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>-Handsome, well-crafted cabin <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>What's not:<p>-Steering short on feel<br>-Sport pack too harsh for some (MT stated in the article the ride was on the sporty side of firm but not over the top)<br>-Active steer worth it? (Basically, they said it works but it's quite subtle)<p>I know Infiniti has a hit on their hands with this. All of the Motor Trend complaints are arguably subjective. I can't wait to see how the M does in a comparo. I'll scan the article later. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

jrock65
01-04-2005, 06:44 PM
Try 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, and 1/4 mile at 13.8.<p><A HREF="http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145779" TARGET="_blank">http://www.clublexus.com/forum...45779</A>

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 07:01 PM
HICAS lives on!

VarianceJ30
01-04-2005, 07:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jrock65</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, and 1/4 mile at 13.8.<p><A HREF="http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145779" TARGET="_blank">http://www.clublexus.com/forum...45779</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, I read the Road and Track article, too. I don't know how MT came up with 6.1 seconds. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 07:50 PM
different cars ( these are pre-production ) different days, different equipment ( probably), different testing site, MT usually does get the lowest times tho<p>

hokman
01-04-2005, 10:21 PM
In fact, it was the skyline gtr that took down the porsche 911 in races all around the world. And were soon banned or burdened with massive weight penalties, but still ruled raced tracks. Just like the Ford sierra RS cosworth before it, too good, and too unfair. it's just too unfair with that balanced high tech 4wd, and strong straight 6 twin turbo.

hokman
01-04-2005, 10:23 PM
And now NISSAN's also got the best interior in class too. And stop being jealous on the VK v8's torque, smoothness, and quietness. HAHAHAA!

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 10:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hokman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HAHAHAA!</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

Rugbyplaya91
01-04-2005, 10:53 PM
Awesome

jrock65
01-04-2005, 11:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Infiniti Z350</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I read the Road and Track article, too. I don't know how MT came up with 6.1 seconds. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because MT didn't test clock the car. The 6.1s was an estimate.<p>C&D got 5.6s 0-60 for the M45 in their latest issue. This was an official test, not an estimate.

MrMGMan
01-05-2005, 02:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hokman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who makes the best V6 10 times straight?<br>Who makes a quieter V8 than LS430's?<br>Who ruled the race tracks around the world for the past 15 years?<br>Nissan.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You forgot to add: 'Who's owned by Renault?'<p>In all seriousness though, it is a fantastic looking car - very faithful to the concept, and far more appealing than some of the utter dross that's been dribbling out of other car companies recently. I'm really beginning to understand why US automakers are getting their asses handed to them by the Japanese, particularly in the luxury market. I can see this car doing extremely well in style-conscious Europe, it could make the sort of impact that Lexus has been trying for and failed to achieve with its current range. Here's hoping that this is the car Renault and Nissan decide to use to spearhead Infiniti's launch onto the European market and its unsuspecting luxury car makers.

Top Secret
01-05-2005, 03:02 AM
Actually, Renault is only Nissan's partner - not owner. Anyway, how is that bad? I mean Renault creates wonderful cars, like that beastie Clio V6! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Anyway, this is a good jobbie, I like it a lot.

Santeno
01-05-2005, 11:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, Renault is only Nissan's partner - not owner. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Not true. Renault owns a controlling interest in Nissan, which makes it a part owner and gives it effective ownership-style control over all it's operations. Nissan is not a partner of renault, it is controlled by it.

VarianceJ30
01-05-2005, 05:56 PM
If the new M is this good, I can't wait to see what Infiniti has in store for their next 7-Series/S-Class fighter... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
01-06-2005, 07:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Not true. Renault owns a controlling interest in Nissan, which makes it a part owner and gives it effective ownership-style control over all it's operations. Nissan is not a partner of renault, it is controlled by it.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>heh, I remember when D & C merged, everyone argue how they are "partners". That does not exist in the business world - if you own controling stake, then you own the compny... Nissan is lucky they got Renault as their owner, otherwise they probably would be worse off than Mitsu right now...