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Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 01:40 PM
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Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 01:40 PM
Discovery 3 review from The Times & Jeremy Clarkson:<p>Jeremy Clarkson: It'll do anything and go nowhere<br>Land Rover Discovery<br>August 22, 2004<p>Damn it. I had some plans to introduce foxhunting in cars when the more traditional equine variety is banned, but now the government has announced it is deciding whether four-wheel-drive vehicles should be banned from Britains ancient rights of way. <p>At the moment, you can drive any car down any so-called green lane providing you can prove that it was once used as a road. Those of a rambling disposition  and remember the Ramblers Association began its life as an offshoot of the communist movement  say this is preposterous. You shouldnt be able to drive a Range Rover down the Ridgeway just because it was once used by a bullock cart in 1628. <p>Now I agree, people who spend their weekends in combat trousers pushing one anothers Land Rovers out of muddy puddles are probably mental. I certainly wouldnt use one as a babysitter, thats for sure. But if they want to spend their free time driving their Isuzu Troopers into a lake, thats their business. And anyway, only 5% of the nations enormous network of country paths are available to off-roaders, so taking that small piece of the pie away does seem a bit unfair. <p>Fairness, however, doesnt really bother eco-twerps. They had a speed limit on all waterways in the Lake District, except a tiny part of Windermere on which normal people could water-ski and ride jet bikes. Now, however, thanks to the communists, even this little piece is about to be taken away and given back to Bill Oddie. <p>If off-road cars are banned from the countryside, we may have a problem because there are also whisperings in the rectory of power that they may also be banned from town centres too. Everyone, apparently, is getting fed up with mums in their Chelsea tractors, taking up too much space and generally bashing into everything. <p>So all in all then, not an especially good time for Land Rover to stick its neck above the battlements and announce the arrival of a new Discovery. A car that cannot be used in town . . . or out of it. <p>Now I should make it crystal clear at the outset that I absolutely loathed the last Disco. It used the old Range Rovers chassis, which means it was rooted in the late 1960s, and boy, could you tell on the road. You could have given one to an asylum seeker as a sort of welcome-to-Britain gift and hed have gone straight back home again. <p>And it had the most awful image problem because it was either driven by mums or murderers. Mums liked the seven seats. Murderers liked the early models, at least, with proper locking differentials, which were very good off-road. This meant they could drive far into the woods to bury their victims heads. <p>The new car is a completely different animal. The raised rear roof line remains for those who have a pet giraffe, and the doors seem to have come from a different car, but overall, theres no doubt that its a looker. A sort of Matra Rancho for the 21st century if you like. <p>Underneath you get a separate chassis and a monocoque, so you have the toughness to deal with the green lanes you wont be driving on and plenty of refinement in towns, where you wont be driving either. <p>It is a hugely comfortable car to drive: quiet, not too roly-poly in the bends and blessed with an extraordinarily delicate throttle pedal that makes parallel parking  even on a steep hill  a complete doddle. The only thing I really didnt like about the new Disco driving experience were the parking sensors that beeped pretty much constantly and went hysterical when I was still miles from the car behind. <p>What good is 2ft in a modern city centre parking slot? They should be set to go berserk when youre 2mm from impact, not 2ft. <p>This is especially annoying because the latest Disco is so big that youre always 2ft from everything. You could be in Paris and still be only 2ft from youre own front door. Mind you, this does at least mean that theres now a small boot to be found behind the third row of seats. <p>Under the bonnet you get a 4.4 litre version of Jaguars 4.2 litre V8. This could uproot trees with its torque and surprises you with its power. And if you dont fancy mpg figures in the low teens, you can have a diesel that uses the stunning twin turbo from Jaguars S-type. <p>Inside, while you dont get the style or flair of a Range Rover, you do get a sense of utilitarian toughness. You could certainly detonate a small  lets say one-kiloton  bomb in there and nothing would break. Prices havent been announced yet but expect the base models to start at less than 30,000 and the more expensive HSE petrol versions to nudge 50,000. <p>The Discovery is likely to be better off-road than its big brother, the Range Rover. It is also bigger, more powerful, more torquey, faster, more practical  thanks to the seven seats  more economical and considerably cheaper. <p>On this basis it would be easy to sign off by saying the Disco is better than one of the best cars in the world. But Im afraid were far from the end of the story. You see, the Range Rover is actually a five-seater executive car that happens to have four-wheel drive. Its rivals are the Mercedes S-class and the Jaguar XJ8. <p>The Discovery is the other way round. It is supposed to be an off-road car that you can use on the road. Its rivals are the John Deere tractor and the wellington boot. This is why the new version worries me. I have not yet had a chance to take it off-road but I know Ill miss having a selection of levers that make an almighty clunking noise when you pull them, as solid chunks of pig iron interlock with other solid chunks of pig iron. <p>Instead you get a rotary knob that you use to tell the car what sort of surface youre on: grass, gravel, a muddy track, sand or the M1. The onboard computer then changes the settings to optimise the diffs and the ride height and the throttle sensitivity. <p>In theory it sounds amazing, and in practice itll probably work beautifully. But if I were in the middle of the Kalahari, Id rather have two chunks of pig iron than some silicon chips that were designed and developed by four blokes in Banbury. Of course, you may argue, the Discovery will not be used in the Kalahari or even the Lake District, so why worry about how it will perform there? <p>Oh, come on. Thats like saying a nuclear missile will never be fired so why worry whether it will fly. Its nice to know it can. <p>Whatever, one day soon, Ill do something mad and adventurous with the new car to see if it can handle the rough stuff and report back. <p>In the meantime, I do have some concerns. The man from Land Rover could lift and tilt the middle row of seats easily, but thats because he was built like a supertankers anchor and had arms like slabs of ham. <p>I struggled and I suspect a mum with a screaming child under one arm would be completely flummoxed. The Volvo XC90, which is also made by Ford remember, is a much more practical and marginally more spacious proposition  and cheaper, too, it must be said. <p>I also noted that each occupant in the rear is given controls to change the radio station. This sounds fine in theory, but do you let your kids choose what they listen to when youre driving? I dont. And if they had the wherewithal to override my decision and switch to Radio 1, Id take a hammer to them  and their control panels  within the first three miles. <p>Heres the big one then. Would I swap my Volvo for a Disco? The Land Rovers certainly nicer to drive. It feels more substantial, too, as though youre getting more stuff. It also has better engines and undoubtedly more ability off-road. However, I mainly need a device for moving children to and from school, so the answer is no. <p>As a car for mums, the Disco is narrowly beaten. But at the first possible opportunity Ill take one off-road and well see just how it shapes up as a car for murderers.<p>VITAL STATISTICS <p>Model: Land Rover Discovery V8<br>Engine type: V8, 4394cc<br>Power: 295bhp @ 5500rpm<br>Torque: 315 lb ft @ 4000rpm<br>Transmission: Six-speed automatic, four-wheel drive<br>Acceleration: 0-60mph: 8.0sec<br>Top speed: 121mph<br>Tyres: 255/60 VR18<br>Price: TBA (30,000-50,000)<br>Verdict: Hugely comfortable, highly powerful and robustly built, but will the complex new computer systems still work in the Kalahari?<br>Rating: * * * * out of * * * * *<p>Copyright 2004 Times Newspapers Ltd.

Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 01:41 PM
Land Rover LR3 Wins Prestigious 2005 Motor Trend SUV of the Year<p><IMG SRC="http://motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/112_0412_suvotyrover01_z.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Today, the all-new LR3 was named Motor Trend's 2005 Sport/Utility of the Year. Motor Trend editor-in-chief, Angus MacKenzie, presented this prestigious award to Mike O'Driscoll, president, Aston Martin Jaguar Land Rover, at the California International Auto Show in Anaheim, California.<p>Criteria for the award included a series of comprehensive evaluations and grueling tests-including street, track, and off-road-administered to each of<br>the seven entrants. In addition to LR3, contenders included Chevrolet Equinox, Ford Escape Hybrid, Ford Freestyle, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Infiniti QX56 and Nissan Pathfinder.<p>"LR3 significantly changes the rules for today's SUV and Motor Trend is at the leading edge of acknowledging its importance," said O'Driscoll. "LR3 is at the heart of Land Rover's transformation into the 21st century and this award confirms that we achieved the goals we set for it."<p>Designed and engineered for success, LR3 is new in every way. "This vehicle delivers a premium package that is optimized for North American consumers," added O'Driscoll. Developed by and for Land Rover, its modern architecture delivers all the comfort, refinement and on-road attributes of a monocoque, while continuing to<br>set new standards in off-road performance. A specially developed 300hp 4.4-liter version of Jaguar's acclaimed V8 engine, coupled with a six-speed automatic 'intelligent shift' transmission and permanent four-wheel drive, deliver an SUV with outstanding performance.<p>On-road driving and refinement are further enhanced by a fully independent suspension featuring four-corner air suspension. Like Range Rover, this air suspension is height adjustable, to assist with entry and exit, and to boost ground clearance for off-road performance.<br>Interiors feature seating for up to seven full-size adults, a fold-flat interior, and an alpine roof which places glass over each seating position.<p>LR3 continues the brand's tradition of introducing class-leading technologies, the most significant of which is Terrain Response(TM). This patented system optimizes driveability and comfort, as well as maximizing traction. Using a rotary switch on the center console, the driver selects one of five terrain settings:<br>-- General driving<br>-- Grass/gravel/snow<br>-- Mud/ruts<br>-- Sand<br>-- Rock crawl<p>Other innovative, user-friendly technologies in LR3 include DVD navigation and optional adaptive headlights that swivel with the direction of travel to<br>illuminate the road ahead.<p>A well-equipped LR3 is available from $44,995, including free scheduled maintenance for four years/50,000 miles. Vehicles are available at Land Rover's 164 retailers beginning November 1, 2004.

Naga Royal Guard
11-01-2004, 01:46 PM
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Vatican
12-22-2004, 01:04 AM
Did any one notice something different with the doors on the first posted picture bt Naga?

JBlair
12-22-2004, 01:12 AM
LOL...yeah, someone must have been playing with PS. Anywho, I saw one of these on the road yesterday (behind one in a parking lot) and everything looks great except for the rear lights. They look MASSIVE. Not necessarily bad looking, but just very, very large. All in all, an impressive vehicle in person though.

Superfresa
12-22-2004, 08:08 AM
First Pic is a Photoshop done by Vatican. Naga change the pic

jro4566
12-22-2004, 08:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br><IMG SRC="http://thelandroverchronicle.com/new_pa2226.gif" BORDER="0"><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not only is Volvo letting FoMoCo use their technology, but also their seats too!

Superfresa
12-22-2004, 08:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Not only is Volvo letting FoMoCo use their technology, but also their seats too!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh, I don't like this SUV anymore. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Seat Switches from Volvo is a lot more important than AWD Technology Land Rover shared with Volvo amongst others.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-23-2004, 11:57 AM
Hehe, they also used the light switches from Volvo! Sorry to sound so nitpicky, but I'm not - my family has just owned Volvos for some time now.

syclone
12-23-2004, 01:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh, I don't like this SUV anymore. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Seat Switches from Volvo is a lot more important than AWD Technology Land Rover shared with Volvo amongst others.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wasn't the Volvo AWD system developed by Haldex?